******* ******* *** #* ***** *** no rival ** **** *****. ******* ******** continue ********** ** *****-******* ***** *** their ********* *********** *******.
***, ** *** ******** ****, ***** was * ******* ******** ** *********** not ****** *** *********** ********, * positive **** *** ******* ****** ***********.
***** ****** *** ******* ***** *****:
- ***** - *** **** '*****' **** just ** **** ***** ** ******** votes *** ********** ********* *** ******** and ************* ******.
- ********* - *** *** ********** *** positive, * **** **** *** *** company, *** *** ** ***** ****** of ***** ***** ********** ** *******, showing * ******* ** ********
- **** - *** ******** **** ****** overall, *** ******* * ******* ** worst ********** *** *** ******* ******* of ***-****
Compared ** ****
******* ***** ****** *********** *******, *****, ********* *** ******* (*** Hanwha). **** ** *** **** ** those ******** ** ****:
- ******* - *********** *** **** ** in **** ** ***** ** ********** complaints ****** **** ********* ******* ***********, ****** ** *****-****** *********** *** ********* ** *** ******, ******* ******* ** ** ***** ***** than ****.
- ***** ***** ******** * ****** ** worst ********** ** **** *** ***** than ** ****. ** *** *** clear ** **** ********* *****'* ******* are ****** ** ****** ***** *********** are ***** ***** **** ** ****.
- ********* ******** **** ****. **** **** net ******** ** **** *** *** now *** ******** ** ****.
- ****** ******** **** ****. ***** ********* fell *** ***** ********* ****, ******* no ******* ****** **** *** ***** change.
*******
** ******* *** ******** ***** ** *** number ** ******* ****** ******** ** Arecont, *********:
- "*******. **** *** **** ****** ** several *************. ** *** ****** *****, we **** ** ********* ****** ***** Arecont **'** **** *********."
- "*******, **** ****** **** *** *******"
- "*******. **** ***** ****** ******* ***** and ******** *******. ***** ******* * few ********, *** * **** ** bad ******** **** **** *** ******** and *** **********. * **** *** be ******* *** **** ******* ******* going *******."
- "******* ******* *** ********. **** ***** easy, **** ***** ******** ********, ******** service ** ***, *** ******* ***** too ****. * ***'* *** ****** how **** * ***** ************ ***** products."
- "*******. *** ** *** ********"
- "*******. ******* ***** **** *****"
- "******* - *** *** *** **** of *******"
- "******* - **** **** ******* *******, lots ** ******* ******** & ***** tech ******* ***'* *** ********"
- "*******. *** *******, *** **** *******."
- "******* ***** **** *****. ***** ******* imager ******"
- "******* ********* ********... ****/***-******** *******"
- "*******, *** **** *** *** ** box ***********"
***** ***** ************* **** ********** *** integration ** *******-******** ******, ***** ******* failure *** ********.
*** *** ****** *** ******* ** still ***** **** ******* ***** ** problems. ***, ******* *** ******** ************* overall *** *******. ********, ** ** because ************ ******* *** **** *** main ****** ********-****** *******, ** *** ******** ***** ****:
- "*******. ****** **** *** ****** ** the *****-***** ********"
- "*******. ****** ** ***/******* ******* ******* multi ******* ** * ******** ******* was **** *** ***** ***** *******, from ******** ********* **** ***** ** just ******* ******** ******."
- "*** ** ******** ******* **** **** ******* * know ** *** * *** ******** with *********** *** ******* **** ****** to ** *** *** ** *** box. * ***** **** *** ***** to *** **** ****** ** ***** multi ****** ******* / *************."
- "******* ******. * ********* * ******* 180° ******* ****** * ******. ** the **** **** * **** ******** 3 ** **** *** *** ** troubleshoot ***** ****** **** * ******. The ******* ***** **** ***** *** not ****** ***** ***** ********."
- "*******. **** *** ** **** **** G2 ***-****** ******* ****** ** *** last ************, ******* ** **** * very ******* *** ****. *** ******* has **** **** *******; ******** ******** required *** **** ***. ****; **, go ******; **, ****; ***."
** *** ******** ****, ** ****** Arecont's **** ** *** ***** ******** to ******* ** ****. ** *** negative **** *** *******, ** ****** that **** ** ******* *** ****** in *********** *****-******* **** **** ****** integrators ****** **** **** ******* ** higher ******* *********.
*****
***** *** * ******* ****** ** Arecont, *** ****** ******* *** **** had * ****** ******** ****, ***** had ** ***** ****** ** ******** to ***** ***** - * *** showing ******* *** *** ****** **** Arecont. ******** / ************* ****** *** the *** *** *****:
- "*****. **** ** *** ******* **** firmware ******."
- "******** ***** *** *** **** ** about ************ ********. **** **** *********** bugs ** ***** ******** **** **** had ***** ** ***** ********"
- "*****. **** ********* *** ***** *** their *********, *** ** *** ** update **** ***** *****."
- "***** ** ***. ******* ***-********** ******** updates ***** ***** ******** ***** *** too **** ******."
- "***** - ******** **** *********. ****** designed ********"
- "*****, ** ****** ******"
- "*****. ******. **** *******."
- "***** *** ***** ******* *** ********* help"
- "***** ***** *** **** *********** ********* and ** *** ********. ******* ******* quality *** **** *** *** *** and **** ******* *** *******"
* *** *********** ********* ***** *** Hikvision ****** ********:
- "***** *** ********* **** ******** ******** and ****** *******. **** ** ********* as *** ***** ** ********* *** cameras **** ** **** *** *****."
- "*****/********* *** ** ****** ***** ******** issues."
********
***** ********* *** **** **** ******* for *** ***** ****** ** ***** selections, **** *** **** **** ****** by ***** ****** ****** ** ******** selections.
*** **** ******* ***** ***** *** variety ** ********** *** ********, *********:
- "*********... *************** (********** *** **** *************) *** ********* of ******* **** ****** ****** ** issues"
- "*********. **** **** ******"
- "*** ******* **** ***'* **** **** ******* *** are **** ** ****** ******** ***** requiring ***** ************** ** ********"
- "*********, *** ******."
- "***/******-******, ***** ***** *****"
****** ****, ***** *** * ***** of ********* *** ******** ****** *****:
- "********* - ******* ********. **** ** find ****** ***********"
- "*********....******** ******."
- "*********, *** ** **** ***** ***** support"
- "*********, ***** **** ***, **** ** install (******** ** ****)"
- "*** ****** - ***** ****+ ***** working ** ******* *****, **** ** be ****** **** ******* **** ** both *** ****** *** ***** ******* - ** ********** ****** **** ** many *********."
- "*********. ** **** ******** **** ******* PTZs **** **** ******* ** *** after ** ******** *** ******** *** software ******'* **** *** ****** ** all. ***** ****** ** *** *** issue."
- "*********, **** ******* ******** ** ** ONVIF, *** ***** *** *** **** to **** **** ******* ******, *** too **** ** ********* ** ***** party ***" [**** ***** ** ******* to*********'* **** **** ***** ******** *********]
- "********* ******** ******* *** ******** ******* are * *******"
- "********* *** *** ***** **********. *** cameras **** *** *** **** ** work **** *** *********** ********. *** lack ** ******** ******* *** * hindrance. **********, ** ***** * *** to **** ** **** ** *** own, *** ** **** ** ** further ******** *** ********* ** **** even ****** ****. *** ******* **** savings ** ****** ** ******** *** much **** ** ************ ***********."
- "*********. ****** *** ****, *** ** return ****. * ***** ***** **** HikVision *****. *** ******* ** *** security ********, *** ******* ** *** the **** ******** *** *** ********* to *** *** ******* ** ** view-able ******* *** ****** *******. ***** junk."
- "*********, ****** **** ******* ******* ** water ****** ********** **** **** ****** cylinder **** ** *******, ******** ** Hikvision"
- "** **** **** * **** ***** the ********* ****** *** ********* **** 50 "*********" *******. ** ********* * new ***** *** *** ******* ***** not *******. ***** *** *** ******* were **** ****** ** **** *** OEM's. ** ****'* *** ***** *** the **** *** *** *** ********* them *** *** ** ****** **** out *** ******* *** ******* ***** he *** ************ ******* ** *** providing **** ** *** ********."
*** ******* *** ***** *** *********. While ** ** ******** *** **** that **** *** *** ********, *** amount ** ******** *********** *** ****** with **** ** ****** ****** **** their ***-******* ***********, ***** ***** ********* will ** ********* ** ******** ******* at * ******* ******** ** **** and/or ***** **** ******* ** ***** and ********* ** *********** **** ***.
Axis - * **** ******** - **** *********
**** ******** *********, ******* *** *** first ****, **** *** *** ******* negative - ******-**** ******** **********:
- "****, *** ******** **** ***** *******, but **** ****** ****** **** ************ have ****** * *** ***** **** we've *** ** ******* **** ******* manufacturer."
- "****...*** **** *** ** **** ******** constraints."
- "*** ***** ********** *** *** ****-***** issues **** *** **** ****** ** some ** ***** **** ******* ******. Specifically, *** **-**** **** **** ** the *****-** ****** ** ** *** Arecont ******* ** * **** ******. Thankfully, **** ** *** ********* **** willing ** **** *** *** **** cameras."
***** ****, ** **** *** ***** ******* product ************ ****** *** **** ******* is * **** ******** ** *** importance ** ******** **** *********.
****
****** ** * ******** ****, **** year ****** * ******* ******** ** the ****** ** *********** **** ** notable ********:
- "**** ******, **** *** **** ** be ****** *****."
- "**** * ********* ***********, ** ****'* have * *** ********** **** ******. The ******** ** *** - ******, Axis, ******** - *** ******** *** trustworthy."
- "** *****'* *** ***. ****, ******, Panasonic, *** ***** **** *** ******* us *****."
- "** ***** ** ****, ********* *** Samsung *******. ** **** *** *** any ***** **** *** ** ***** manufacturers **** * ** ***** ** this ****."
- "** ** ******, **'** ************ ** Hanwha, ****, *** ********* *** ****'* run **** *** ***** ******** ****** this **** ****."
- "**** ******. ** ******* *** ******* we ****** ** **** ***** ** trust."
- "****. ** ******** *** *** ***** outside ** *** ****** ***** ** know ****."
- "*/*. ** *****-**** *** ******* ** plan ** ******* *** *** ******* and ******* * ****** ******* ****** of ****** ************* *******, ** ** have *** *** *** ******** ***********."
- "** ***'* **** ****** **** **** anymore **** ** **** **. ** standardizing ** **** **** *** ******* stock ********* ** *** ****** ***** and *** **** ** ******* ********* customer ******* ** ************ *** ******* offering. ***** **** *** *** ***** any ****** ***** *** *** *** our ******** ***********. ** ** **** to **** ** ******* *** ******* phenomenal ******** ******* ** ********** *** variable ** ******* *****."
- "*** **********. ** ******* ******* **** work. ** **** **** **** ******* that ** ** *** **** ***% confidence **."
- "** *****'* *** *** *** *********** with *** ********** ****** **** ****** out. **** ** *** ** **** remained ***** ** *** ******* ********. They ******* **** ** ******** *** perform ****."
- "******** * ** ********** ** **** to *** ** ***** ** *** that ***** *** - ** ****'* really **** *** ***** ****** **** any ****** ************* ** *** **** year"
*********
******** ****** ************* **** ** ******** next ****.
Comments (36)
Undisclosed Integrator #1
So based on these results, is Axis considered the best? What would be secondary?
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Undisclosed #2
I will be very surprised if Arecont still exists as an independent company in 2020. They have already tried to sell the company unsuccessfully on more than 1 occasion, recently gave up their patent when Axis challenged them, and now are heavily encroached upon my other manufacturers with multi-imagers.
Maybe they can convince Motorola that there is something worth owning in the company.
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bashis mcw
I'm talking now what's inside manufactures shiny new box...
Almost every manufacture (and to this, their OEM's too) has vulnerabilities in one way or another, pretty normal thing when evolving and developing features, so that should not be main factor to be 'worst'.
For the inside part of the shiny new box, what should also be taken into consideration for 'worst/best' manufacture, is how that's looks like. Is it old standard factory default root filesystem from HiSilicon/Ambarella/whatever where they only developed their own blob's into some weird directory, or did the manufacture actually invested some time into develop some new and updated (and keep updated) root filesystem together with their own applications.
During my almost last two years, with mainly concentrating only on what's inside of IPC/DVR/NVR of several manufactures and OEM's, I see same old and outdated root filesystem over and over again (boring!), and only to find blob's and some customisations into some few weird directories.
I would be lying to say that I only see this, as I have and do see some very few manufacture(s) who not using default HiSilicon/Ambarella/whatever root filesystems but instead thrown away that old and outdated 'junk' and instead evolving a very nice ecosystem for the root filesystem together with their own applications.
Perhaps one day I should write something about this and compare different named manufacturers and their OEMs, but today, I think I'm a bit far away from it because there are many left to dissecting...
My $0.02
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Undisclosed #5
Arecant!
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Undisclosed End User #6
What I would avoid:
Top category to avoid: Product having major security / exposed vulnerability issue
Second top category to avoid: Product with no clear ownership e.g. recently acquired / merged with no or confused future plans. Till everything is fine, no one will notice. But the moment there are issues, end-user as well as integrator shall suffer.
Third category to avoid: Product with worst after sales support.
I am still fine (rather compromise) with products which has administrative or logistic issues. Even if installations are delayed, atleast technically there shall be minimum hiccups.
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Randy Lines
So unfortunate about Arecont ... They seem to be dying of multiple gunshot wounds to the foot. I have never used them however they have had innovation, some great white papers and enthusiastic and talented local employees. I would love to love them but the numbers don't lie and neither do the Integrators I talk to.
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Josh Bylsma
02/27/18 09:17pm
Every year, when I read this report, I come away with the same question: "Can Arecont be saved?"
They had a major NAM presence for years. Integrator are STILL selling their cameras. Each year I think... maybe this is the end. Maybe they will just die off, BUT they are still around.
So, I ask the question: Can Arecont be saved?
... if Yes....
What changes need to be made?
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Undisclosed Integrator #11
Dahua addressed its firmware and cyber issue and it was not the only manufacturer to face these issues. It is important to address the fixes as well as the problems. All manufacturers are vulnerable to cyber issues.
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Tom Sharples
My business consists of building custom multi-camera wireless systems here in Vancouver WA and then shipping them to locations often a couple thousand miles away. That means any hardware or firmware failure is a really big deal. That's why the only cameras I use now are either Mobotix or Axis, both of which have shown themselves to be damn near bombproof over many, many years.
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Undisclosed Integrator #11
Im an Axis parter too. i will look at Mobotix thanks. I have a couple of brands that are bulletproof on hardware but shakey on Firmware. One of them I have stopped using altogether, and its a shame because its a very reliable platform just terrible on the firmware/software side....
Another is a US company that like most if not all buys from Asia and brands. I’m hanging in there because I like the people I work with, but I’m honestly concerned about the situation in general.
It would be great to see some research about this. Hint IPVM.....
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Anton Miller
06/23/18 04:51pm
Some while ago we've installed 6 Hanwha DVRs and cams in 5 location for the same customer, and all of them have the same problem with recording stopping and resuming at periodic intervals. The customer is threatening to sue us if we don't solve the problem, the supplier does not wish to replace the equipment and I'm not gonna touch any Hanwha product ever again.
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