Top Manufacturers Gaining and Losing 2017

Author: Brian Karas, Published on Nov 03, 2017

3 years ago, IPVM statistics accurately and early identified the rise of Hikvision usage across Western markets (see Top Manufacturers Gaining and Losing Ground 2014). Again, in 2015, IPVM statistics showed the continued strong expansion of Hikvision (see Top Manufacturers Gaining and Losing 2015).

But, in 2016, IPVM statistics showed Hikvision's expansion starting to decelerate (Top Manufacturers Gaining and Losing 2016).

Now, in 2017, has Hikvision re-energized their dealer growth or are they hitting a wall?

Inside this report, we examine Hikvision's moves plus notable performances from the following:

  • Arecont
  • Avigilon
  • Axis
  • Dahua
  • Exacq
  • Genetec
  • Hanwha
  • Milestone
  • Pelco

* ***** ***, **** ********** ********** *** ***** ********** *** rise ** ********* ***** ****** ******* ******* (****** ************* ******* *** ****** ****** ****). *****, ** ****, **** ********** ****** *** ********* ****** expansion ** ********* (****** ************* ******* *** ****** ****).

***, ** ****, **** ********** ****** *********'* ********* ******** ** decelerate (*** ************* ******* *** ****** ****).

***, ** ****, *** ********* **-********* ***** ****** ****** ** are **** ******* * ****?

****** **** ******, ** ******* *********'* ***** **** ******* ************ from *** *********:

  • *******
  • ********
  • ****
  • *****
  • *****
  • *******
  • ******
  • *********
  • *****

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Summary *******

***** ********* ****** ******* **** ***+ ********* ** ***********:

  • ******* ******* ****/************ ***** ********, ******* ******* ********** ** ******** selected ** ***********.
  • *******, *** ****** ***** **** *** ***** **** ******* ******* and ******** ************* *** ******* ********** ***** *******.
  • **** ** * ***** **** **** *** **** ** *** bottom ** *********** **** ** ******** ****** *** ***** **** manufacturers ** ****** ******* *** ********** ****** *** ***** ****** cost ***********.

*******: ****, ******* *** ****** **** *** *** * ****** integrators ******** ***** ************* **** ** ** ****.

******: *********, *********** ***** ********* ***** ** *******, *****, *********, and *****.

*******: ***** *** ********* **** *** *** **** ********* ************* who *** *** ******** ** ******** **********, ********** * ********** neutral ********.

Top ******: ****

**** ****** ****** ***** **** *******, ***** **** **** *** of *** ****** ** ****** *******, ** ** *** **** noted ***** **** *********** **** ***** **** ******** ****. **** outranked ********* ** **** ***** ****** ** *********** ********* **** use ** ***** ********, *** ** *** ******* ***** (*********** that **** **** **** - *********** **** **** **** ****).

*****, * ***** ********* *** **** ** *** ****, *** mentioned ** * ****** *********** *** **** ******** **** **** this ****, ****** **** **** *** **** *********** *********:

  • "****. ***** ***** ******** ***** ***** ** ** *** **** around."
  • "****, ***** **** ********* *******"
  • "**** ** *** *** ******* ** *** ** *** **** with *********."
  • "****, **** **** ****** **** ********** ** ******* ******* *******, and ******** **** ******* ** ******* **** ***** *** ****** brands."
  • "************* **** **** ******* *** ** ****** ******** **** **** to ** ***** *******."
  • "****, **** ********** ****** *******."

****** ****' ***-***** ******** *** **** ********** ***** (***:**** ** **** ********* *******), *** ********** *** **** ***** **** **** ****' "*****" products:

** ******* ***** **** **** ******** **** ****. ************ *** network ******** *** ***** ********. **’** ***** ****** * ****** audio ********* ** *** ****** ** **** ********** *** *********. We’ve **** **** ** *** ********* **** ** *** ******** for ******* *** ***** ********** ** ** ***** ************ ***** we *** * ****** *** *** **. **** **** ** it’s * ******** ********.

Solid *****: ******

****** *** ** *********** ********* **** *** ** ***** *****, and * ******* ****** ** ******* ********* ********* **** ***.

  • "****** - *** * ****** ** ******** * ****** **** that ** *** **** **** ******* **** ** ***** * good ***** *** **** *********** **** * ***** ****."
  • "****** *******.. *** ***** ** **** *** *** ***** ** right. *********** ***** ******* *** ** ** ***!!! *** **** relabel."
  • "** *** ***** **** ** *** ****** ******* * ****** cameras. ******* ** *** ****** ** *** ****** *** *******"

*** ***** *** ****** ** **** ***** ******** ** ***** not ***** ******** ** ***********, **** **** ***** ******* ** to *** "*******" ****:

  • "******* ** ****** ******* *** *******/****** ** *****."
  • "******* ******* *** ******* ** ******* ** ****, ********* *** other ********* ****** *** ******."
  • "*******/******. *******, *****, *** *******. (**** ** ** ** ********* about *** **** ******...)"

Genetec **** *** ******

***** ***** (****** ***-**** ********* **** *******, *********, ***., ** end-to-end ******* **** ********) ******* *** *** **** *** **** significant *******, ****** **** *** ***** ******* ******.

  • "*******, ************* *** **** ****** ** **** ***** *** ***** project ************, ** ******** ** *** ******** ** *** ****** and ********, *******, *** ********* ************."
  • "******* ******** **** ******. **** ********* *** ******* ** ******* their ***, ******** **** ****** ********* *** **** **** *** direct *** **** ***** ** ****. **** ***** ** ********** easy ** **** **** * ******** **** ***** *** **** access ******** **** *** *********."
  • "******* - *** ********** *** ***** ** **** ** **** have ***** ************* ****** ******* *** ** ** ***** ** support **** *** ***** ***."
  • "******* ******** ****** *** ******** *********. ********* *** ***** ** advanced *** ******* *** *** ******* ** *** ***** ******* for ********** ********."

Hikvision - ******** *********

** ****, **** *********** ******** ***** ************* **** ********* **** those ***** ************* ****, ******* ********* **** * ****** *** loss, ****** ****'* ****** ************ **** ******** *********. **** ** particularly *********** ** ********* ***** *** *** ***** ****** ****** in ******/********** ********, *** *** **** **** *** ****** ******* strong ***** ** **** ** **** ****** *** ********* ** become * ********** ** **** ********.

******** ****** ***** ******** **** *** **** ****** ******* *********** gave *** ******** *** *****, ****** ****** ********** *** ****** with ******* **** *********** ** *********'* ****:

  • "*********. ** **** * **** ********** *** ***’* **** **** tarnished. *** ***** ******** ****** ****’* ** **** *******. **’* how *** ******* *** ******* ***** ********** ****’* **** **** disappointing. ** **** **** **** * ******** ** ***** *******."
  • "*********, ******** *** ******* **********"
  • "********* *******. *** ** ******** ********, ********* ***'* **** **** on ***** ********."
  • "*** ****** **** *** *** **** ** *** ****** *** the ***** ******** ****** ** *** ***** *** ****"
  • "*********. *** ** ******* *** *** ***** ******"
  • "*********. *** ********* **** ** ***** ** *** ****, ****** is ****** **** *** ******** ***** *** ***** **** ***** the ****** ****."
  • "*********. ******** ********, ********* ***'* ***** **."
  • "*********- *** ** ******** ********."
  • "*** ******, *** *************. *** ***** *** ***** ***** ** Chinese *********, ****** ******* ***** ** *** *** ******* **** hikvision. "
  • "*********. *** *** **** ********* *** ******* *****. * *** of ******** ********** **** ** ***** ** *** ********* *** software."
  • "********* *** ** *** **** ** ******** ********."
  • "** **** *********** ******* ********* ******* *****. ****** *** ** cyber ******** ********."
  • "*********, ***** ********* ********* ***** ******** ******* **** (*** ***'*) for *** ****** ****, *** **** **** ***** ***** ****** options **** ****** *** *************, ****** ***** ***** ***** *****."

Positives *** *********

*******, ***** *** *********. *****, * ****** ** *********** *** report ******* ************* **** ** *********, **** **** **** ***** who ********. ******** ******** ********:

  • "********* *** ** *** ****** **** ******* **** ***** ******* brands."
  • "********* - *** *** *******"
  • "** *** ******** ***** ********* **** **** ***** ****** **'* a *** ******. ***** **** **** *** ***. ******* *** hacking *******, **'* ***** ****** **** ***** ** **** *** install *** ******* ******** ******. **** *****, ** *** **** more *********."
  • "********* - ****** **** ******** *** ** *** *** ***** them ** ******** ********** ** ******* "
  • "*********. ***** *******"

********, ********* **** ********* ******* ********** ********* ************* *****. *** example, **** **** **** *********** **** *** ******** (*.*., *****-*******, thermals, ****** *******, *******, ***.), ***** **** ********* **** **** raise ***** ******* ******* ***** *** **** **** *** ******. That, ***** **** ***** ******** ******* ****** *** ***** ***** will ***** *** **** ****** ******* ****** ****** *********.

Dahua - ***** **********

*********** ****** **** **** ***** **** ****** ***** ****** ** Dahua. **** *********, ***** ******** ******** **** * *** ****** why *********** *** ******* **** ***** *******. **** ********* *****'* general ******** ** ********* ********** ** * *****-***** *****.

  • "** *** ***** **** ** *** ***** *******. *** ** the ********* ****** ** **** **** *******."
  • "***** *** ** ***** **** *************** **** *** **** *** years **** **** ***’* **** ******* ** ********* ******* ******."
  • "** *** ***** ******** **** ***** *** ** ******* ******** or ****. ******* **'* ****** ** *** ******** ** **** rather ******** ** ****** ***** **** *** *****." "* ****** to ** ** * *******, ****** *** ***** ******, *** download *** ****** ********. ****** ***, **** ****** ******* ** Axis ***** **** **** ******* *** ******* *** ******* *** firmware."
  • "***** ******* ** ***************"
  • "** *** ****** *** **** ***** ** *********, *****, ***. We ***'* **** *********** ******* **** **** *** ******** ******** issues."

Arecont - ********* *******

******* *** ***** ******* ** ********* *** ***** *********** *** several *****, *** **** *** ** *********. **** *** * particularly ***** **** *** *******: ********* ********* ************ ****** *******,******* ****** *** ** ******,* ***** ****** **** ****,******* ***** *** ** *****, *** ******* ***********. ** *** ** ****, ***** ******** **** ********* ***** poorly ** ****** ***** (******* ***** **** ****,******* ** *** ** ****).

** *** ** ** ******** **** *********** ***** ******** ** move **** **** *******.

  • "*******. **** **** ** ** * ******** *** ******* ********* cameras, *** **** *** **** *** **********."
  • "*******, ****** **** ***** * ** * *****-****** ****** ******** frequently ** ****** ** **** ** *** ** **'** ******* the ***** **** **** ****. ***** *****-****** ****** *** *** be *** **** ************* **** ****** *********** *** ***********."
  • "******* :) **** ** **** ****, *** *** *** ****** that ** **** *****, ********, *********** ****** ***."
  • "************* **** ******* *** ** *********** ********* *** **** ******* control ** *************."

Pelco - **** ** *** *****, *** ******

***** *** ****** ****** ** **** *** ****, *** *** no *********** ******** ** ****. **** *** **** ** ****, with *********** ******* ********* ******** **** **** *****:

  • "*****. **** ******* ********* ** * ****** ** ***** ***** Customers ** ******** *** ***** *******."
  • "***** *************. *** ******* *********** ***'* ****** ***** ********. "
  • "*****, ******** .......******* ** *******"
  • "***** - ********* ****** *****."

***** *** *** ****** **** ** **** *** *****, ** integrator ****** **** *** *** ******** *** **** ****** *** had * **** ***** ***** *** ****:

***** ********** ** *** *** * **** ****** ********. *** price ***** *** **** ******* ** **** **** *** ** provides * **** **** ******** ********* *** *** *** *****.

IndigoVision - *******

************ *** ** ******** ** ****** ********* ** ********* ***. This ** ********** ********* ******* *** ******* *** **** ********* heavily ** ***** ***** ******** ****,****** ******* **-******** ***** *********************** *********** ***** *** ** **** ****, *** ******* ** ***** ******* *** *** ***** ********* by ********** ******.

2018 *******

**** **** ** ** *********** ****. *** ********* ***** *** recover **** ***** ********** ** ****? *** ****, ******, *******, etc. ***** ***** ******** ********** ** ******** **** ********?

Comments (34)

Undisclosed Manufacturer #1

11/03/17 01:57pm

**** ** *** *********** **** *** ******** ** ******** ** selling ***** ** ***** **** ******** ****** ****. *****'* **** really ***** ********** ******* ********** **** ******** ******** *** **'* creating * *** ** *********** *** ***** ******* ** ******* it *** ******* ***** ********* ***** **. *** **** ** the ****** *** *** ** ** **** ******** ** ** in.

Undisclosed Integrator #2

In reply to Undisclosed Manufacturer #1 | 11/03/17 02:56pm

** ********** *** ** ***** **** ******** ** ************ **** and ***** **** ** ***** ****.

* ***** *** ***** ***** ********** *** ***** ******* *** bottom **** ******* *** ** ** ********. ****'* ** **********, though * ***** ** *****.

Undisclosed Integrator #3

11/03/17 06:27pm

*** ******* ** ***** *** *** ** *** *****?

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Brian Karas

IPVM | In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #3 | 11/03/17 06:47pm

***, ***** **** * ****** ** ******** ** ***** **** integrators **** ***** **** ***** *** **** *****. ******* ** was * *** **** *** *****.

Geoffrey King

In reply to Brian Karas | 11/06/17 04:37pm

** **** ********* ****? ** **, *'* ***** **** *** to ** ***** *** **************.

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Brian Karas

IPVM | In reply to Geoffrey King | 11/06/17 04:40pm

**, **** *** ******* **********, ****** *** ******* **** ******** the **** ** *** *****.

Greg Cook

IPVMU Certified | In reply to Brian Karas | 11/07/17 02:19pm

***** *** ***** *********?

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Brian Karas

IPVM | In reply to Greg Cook | 11/07/17 02:33pm

*******, **** ****** ****, ********* ******** ********* ********* ***** *******, no ********* ***** ***** ******* ** *********.

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Tim Pickles

11/06/17 01:14pm

*** ********** ** ***** **** ******* *** ******** ****, * assume, ***** **** ****'* *** ****** ********** ******* ****?

***** *** ******* ** **********, ******** *** ******* ** ****** supporting *********, ** ** **** ** ****** **** **** ****** not ** **** ****** **** ****** **** *** *** ******** of ***** ********. **** **** ******* ** *********** **** **** always **** *********** ********* ********** *********** ****** *** ****** *** associated *****.

** ********* *****'* ******* ***** ********* ** *** ****** - even ** **** ****** ** ****.

*** ******, ***** ** **** ****** ***** ** * *** integrator ************ ******** ** **** **** **** *** ******** ** maliciously ****** ** ********** ******* ** **** (******* **** ** by ***** **** ******).

*'* ** ******* ** **** *** *** ******** ******** ********* & ******** ****** **** *** ***** **** ** *** ******.

******* ************ ** *** *** ***** *********** ******* ********* * balanced **** ** *** ********. * ***** ********** **** ** draw ******* ********* ** **** * ** ********** ************ ************** ********* *****-******** **** ******** ** **** **** **** **** the ******** ****** ** **** *********, **** ** ***** ******** knowledge *** ********* **** ** ********** ** ********* **** ******* installed *******.

John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Tim Pickles | 11/06/17 01:35pm

** ********* *****'* ******* ***** ********* ** *** ****** - even ** **** ****** ** ****.

* ******* *** *** **** ******* ******* *** *** *** feel **** ** ****** ***** ********** *** * *** ****** you, ********* ********** ** ****** *** ******** (****** *************'* ******* ******** ******* ******* ************* ********* ********* ********** ****). **'* *** **** ****, **'* **** **'* **** ** get ****** *** ****** **** *** *** ******* ***, **** thing ****, ********, ***. **** ***** ******* *********'* '*****' ********.

***, ** *** ***, ***** **** ***** **** ******* **********, their **** ** ** ******** *******, ******* **** **** ************* and ************** **** *** ** ***** **** *************. **, **** IHS, ** ** *** ** **** **** **** *** ******** but **** **** ****** ****** *** ************* ***** ***** ******** literally ******* ** **** *** **** ********* *** '*******' (*******) and **** ****** *** '*******'(********** *******) **** **** ****. **** *** **** **** **** can **** * ******* ****** ** $**,*** * **** ************* but ***** ***** ************* **** **** **** **** ******** ** critique.

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Tim Pickles

11/06/17 01:56pm

* ** ***** ***** ** *** *** ****,* **** - I **** *********** ** **** ******* ***** **** ** ****** of * ************ (*****). ***, **** ** **** **** **** figures *** ****** - ***** ** ******** ***** *** ****** in ********** ** ********.

*** ******* ********** ** ********** *** ******* ** *****-********. **** just * ***** ******* ******** *** ****** *** ****** *** finger ** ***** ****** **** * ***'* *** *********** ** IPVM. ***, **** **** **** *** ************ - *** ** doing **, ******* *** ******** ** *** **** (*** ******** with ********* ** *** ***** *** ** ** **** **** no ******* ** ******** ********).

*** * ** ******* **** **** * **** ****** *********** on *** ****** **** **** ******* *** **** ** ***** into *** ******** *********'*.

** ******** ** ***, **** ** **** ***** **** ***** sales *** ******** *** **** **** - *** *** *** against *** ******* **** *** **** ***** **** ***** ********** restricts **** *** ******, *** ****** ***** ***** ***** *** falling ****** **** *** *******. * **** **** ** **** back ** *** ****** ** **** ********** **** - *****, correct ** ** * ** *****, ** * ***** **** of **** *******? **** ** **** - *** ** **** be ******** **** **** ** *** *********** ** ******** ********** of *** ***** ** **** ** *** ****** *** *** aforementioned ******* *** *********. **** ** ** ******** ***** - it's *** **** *** *** - **'* *** *** ***...

*** *** ******* ** **** *********. ******* ** **** ******* you *** ** **** **** ********* ****** *********. *** *** to **** **** **** ********* **** *********. *** ****** **** comments ** ********* * ******** ** ********* **** - ********* cheap ******* *****.

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Brian Karas

IPVM | In reply to Tim Pickles | 11/06/17 02:04pm

*** *** ******* ** **** *********. ******* ** **** ******* you *** ** **** **** ********* ****** *********. *** *** to **** **** **** ********* **** *********. *** ****** **** comments ** ********* * ******** ** ********* **** - ********* cheap ******* *****.

*** - *** ******* ******** **** *** ******* ** **** things *** ********* ** ***** **** **** ** *****.

**** ****** * ****** ******* ****** ** *********** ********* ***** more ** ***** *******, ***** ** *** **** *** ********** first.

*** *********, ***** **** **** ****** ******* **** **** **** Hikvision ******* ** **** **** ***** ******* **** **** ***** more. **** ****, *** "********" ******** **** ****** ****** *** positive ****. **** ** *** * "******", ** ** * logical ******* ******.

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Tim Pickles

11/06/17 02:17pm

****, * **** **** ******** - *** **** *** ***** nuances. *** ********, *** *** *** **** ************ ***** *** have ******* ** **** **** ********* *** (**** **) ********* - ******** **** **** *** * **********. ***, **** **** have **** **********'* ********* ** *** ******** *** **********'* *** getting ***** ** *** *******.

****** * ** *** ******** **** ** ********* *** **********, they **** **** ********* ** ******** ***** ** *** - some ***** *** - ************.

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David Delepine

AA Security Systems LLC | 11/06/17 04:10pm

**, * **** ** **** ** ** **** * *** points:

* **** ** ***** **** *** ** ****** * ** a ***** ***** ******. ***** * **** *** * *** using ********* *** ******* ****. ***** **** **** ** **** money, *** **** *****'* **** * **** ** ******* ****** them ** ******* **** **** **** *** ********* ***** ***** something.

*** ** ** ** ****** **** ****, *** **** ******, are *** ********* **********. ******* ** ** **** ** ****** that ****, *** **** ******, *** *** ***** ********** ******. For ***** ******* ** **** ***** * ********* *******, ***** is ** ****** ***** ****** ** ***** ***** ***** ********.

****'* *** *****?

*****, **** ********* **** ********* ** *** **** *** ***** fire ** **** *** *****. ******* *** **** **** *** articles **** ********* ** *** ***** *** ** *** **** around *** **** *** *****, *******, *********** *** ****** ** others *** ******* **** **** ******* **.

******, **** *** *** ***** **** **** **** **** **** fair *** **** *** ******** **** ****** ** *** ***** Hik *** *****. **** ******* ***** ***** ** *******, **** inclusion ** ******* ********, ***. ***'* ******* **? ** **** and **** ** *** ****** *** ****** ******* ******* *** shoot ****. **** ********* **** **** ***** *** ****** ***** products **** *** *** ***** ******* ******** *****.

*****, * **** ***** **** ******** **** ** **** (*********** or *********) *** ******** ***** ** *** ** *** ***** brand. *** ****** *** *** *** **** ********* *** *** ones *** ******* *******, *** *****, ****** **** *** ****** these ************'* ***** ******* ******. * *** **, * ****** do. ** *** ***** ***** ***** ***** ** **** *** because ** *** **** ****, ****... *****! ***'* ** ****** though, ***'* ** ****** *** ** ** **** ** ** can **** *** ********* ******** ** ** ***** **** * solution **** ********* *** *******? ****** ****** **** ****** ****** backdoor

** ** **** * ***** ***** ****** *** **** *********, Mr *******, **** ** *** *** *** *** **** *** neither ** ****. ** *** ** ******* **, *************, ** maliciously ********* ******. *** **** **** ** **** ******** **** the **** ** ** ***** ******** ** *** *** *** just **** ****** "****" ****** ** ***** *** **** **** straight.

Lukasz Bucko

11/06/17 04:43pm

**

** *** ***** ********* *** **** ***** , *** ******* with ******** *** ******* **** ** ********* *** ****** **** installer ******* ***** ******* ********* ** *** ****** *** ***** Default ***** , **** ** *** **** ****** .....

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Brian Karas

IPVM | In reply to Lukasz Bucko | 11/06/17 04:48pm

*****, *** **** ** **** *****.

************ *************** **** ****** ** *** ******, **** ** *** *** used ***-******* ********* **** *** **** ******** ********/**********.

***** ***-******* ***** *** **** ****** **** ********* ***** *** exploits, *** *** *** ***** ******** * *********** ****** ** a ****** **********.

*** ****** ********* ******** ******* ****** **** ** ********** ** make * ********* ****** ******** ********* ** *** ****** ***, as *** ****-***** ***** ****** ******** ********* ******** *** ********** did ** ***** ****** *********.

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Tim Pickles

In reply to Lukasz Bucko | 11/06/17 04:51pm

******, ******* *****. ** **** ******** *** ** ***** *** implemented ** ********** *** *******, *** '******** ******' **** **** manufacturers **** ******** **** ***** *** ** *** ***** ** debate.

**** ******** *** ** ******** ***** *** *** ***** ** a ****** ******** - *** * *** **** ******* *** are ***** ** ******?

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Brian Karas

IPVM | In reply to Tim Pickles | 11/06/17 05:05pm

***, ***** **** ******/********** *** '**** ********' ********* * ****** with * ****-***** ******** **** ****** **** ****** ** *** device (********* ******** ***** *********).

****, **** *** *** "**** *************", *** *** **** *** (many) ***** ************* **** **** *** ******* ****-***** ********* ** their ********?

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Tim Pickles

In reply to Brian Karas | 11/06/17 05:20pm

****** *******, ******* *** ********* *** * ****** ****** ****** is * **** ******** ***** ******'* *** ***?

*'** ********* ** *******, ****** ******* ***** *** ****** ******** - ** * ******** **** **** ******* **** *** ** any *** ********** ** *** "******* *****" ******* * ******* connection.

*** **** *** ** * **** ****** *** *** ** look ** *** *** **** *** *** *** ********* *** deserve - *** ***, *** ******* **** ** * *************.

Michael Miller

In reply to Tim Pickles | 11/06/17 05:43pm

****** *******, ******* *** ********* *** * ****** ****** ****** is * **** ******** ***** ******'* *** ***?

** ** **** *** ** ***, **** ****** **** ** view ***** ******* **** ***** ****** ***** ** ****** ********. How ** *** ****** ****? ** *** **** *** ******** that *** ********* ** *** ****** ****** ** ****** ***** remote ****** ******* ******* ********?

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Tim Pickles

In reply to Michael Miller | 11/06/17 05:59pm

** *** **** *** ** *** *********** ********** ***** - you ******* **** **** ** ** ***** *** ****. **** your ******** ********* ********* ***** *** *** ******** * ***% hack ***** ******** ** **** ****** ** **** ** * phone?

** **** ** *** **** *** **** **** *** ******** to **** *** ****** - *** ****** *** ***** *******.

** **** **** *** ****** ********* ** **** *** *** just * "*****", *** **** **** ****** **** **** **** a ****** ******* ********* **** **** ***** *** ******* ******** updates ** **** **** ****** *********. *** ****** **** ** the ***** *** **** *** **** ************ *** (** *** EU) *** ************ ** **** *** ****** ************.

** - * ****** *** **** **** **** ********* ** dangerous *** **** ********** **** ** **** ** *** *** cats ** ***** **** ****** *** ******* **** **** *** your ********* ******** **** ****** ***% ***** ******** **** *** will *** **** **** **?

**** ** ******* ******* **** ********, *******, ******* *** *****? Nothing **** ****** ** *** ***, ***** ** **** ** the ******** ** **** *** ***% ******. ***'* ***** ******* that ******* **** ** *** ***** ** ****.

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Brian Karas

IPVM | In reply to Tim Pickles | 11/06/17 05:48pm

****** *******, ******* *** ********* *** * ****** ****** ****** is * **** ******** ***** ******'* *** ***?

***, ** ** * **** ******** *****, *** ** ** not * **** ********. * ** ************ ******* *** *** would ******** ****** *** ****** **** ******** *** ******** *******, with * *** ** ******.

****, *** ******* ******* **** *** **** ***** ******* ** your ***** ** "**** *************" ****** ******* ******** ***************.

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Tim Pickles

In reply to Brian Karas | 11/06/17 06:23pm

**** * ******* ** ***** ** ********** *** ****** ** counter ** ***** ******'* **? **, ** *** ** **-****** it - **** ************* *** **** ****** ********** ** **-*********** back ***** **** **** *** *** **** ********** - ** the **** *** ** *** **** ******* ***** ********** ***** it *** **********. ***** ************************'* - *** *** ***, ******** * ****** *** *** exactly *** ****.

*** ***** *** ** ******** *** *** ******* ***** ** system ********, ** *** **** *** ** ****** (** **** on *** ******* *****) ***** *** ******** ** ********** ****** or ****** *****.

*** ** *** *** * ******** *****. ***** *** ***** a ***** ** ***** ** ***** ** * ****** ** your *** **** **** **** **** ******* ** **, **** DoB, *********, ***'* *** **** ********'* ********** ** *** **** most ******** ******** *****'*- **** **** **** *** ** ** the ***? ******* ****'* *** ******* ** *** ***** ***'* it? **** ****** ***** *** **** ***% ***** *** ***** confidence ** ** **** ******** **** **** *** ********'* ******** day *** *****, **** *** **** ******* *******?

******** ****** ** *** ***. ** *** *********, ******** ** personal - ** *** ***** ** ** *** ***. ** you **, ** ****** **** *** *** ***, *** ** so ** **** *** **** *** **** **** ** *********** to ***** ********. **** ** *** ** **** **** **** non-Hik ******** *** ******* **** **** ***** *** *** *** logins **? ****'* **** ** **** ** **** **** **** (non-Hik *****).

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Brian Karas

IPVM | In reply to Tim Pickles | 11/06/17 07:22pm

***** ************************'* - *** *** ***, ******** * ****** *** *** exactly *** ****.

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**, ** *** ** **-****** ** - **** ************* *** have ****** ********** ** **-*********** **** ***** **** **** *** yet **** **********

**** *** **** **** ************ **** **** ****** ** ****** Bitcoins, ** * ******-*** ****** ***, ***. **** ******* **** is **** *** **** ******** **********, *** **** "*****" ** lurking. ********* *** *** ******** ****** ***************, ******* ***** ****** of ****** ***** ******** * ********. **** **** ***** ********* of ******** ** * **** ******** *******. **** ** ******, public, ****.

*** ********* ***** *** ******** **** *** **** ********* *** to *** ***** ** **********, ** ****** ******* *** *** "totally ******", **** **** **** *** ** *********'* *** **** engineering.

*** ** *** *** * ******** *****. ***** *** ***** a ***** ** ***** ** ***** ** * ****** ** your *** **** **** **** **** ******* ** **, **** DoB, *********, ***'* *** **** ********'* ********** ** *** **** most ******** ******** *****'*- **** **** **** *** ** ** the ***?

*** *** **** ****** *** **** ****? *** ** ****** your ********, ** * ***** *** ********* ************ ****** ***** kinds ** ******* ** * ****** ******** ********* ** *** internet.

**** ****** ***** *** **** ***% ***** *** ***** ********** in

*** *** ******* *** *****, * ***** *** ** ******* some ******** ******* ** *** *** ***** ****** * ****** with * ****-***** ****** ********* ******** ** *** **** ********* has ******** ****.

*** ******:

** **** ******** *** ** ***** *** *********** ** ********** and *******, *** '******** ******' **** **** ************* **** ******** from ***** *** ** *** ***** ** ******.

**, * ** ****** *** (*****) ** ******** **** "**** security" **** *** ******* ******* *********'* ****-***** *********. **** ** mind **** ********* ** *** **** ******** ********* ****** ************ here ***** ** ** ********** ** ****** *** ******* *** always ***** ** ** **** ** ****** ******* **** *** fully ***-******. ** ** ***** ****** ***** **** *** ******* to ** ******** ********** ** **** ****** ** *******.

*** **** ***** ******, ***. * ** **** ****** *** to ********* ******* ** ****-****** **** *** ************ ** *** Hikvision ********.

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Ross Vander Klok

IPVMU Certified | In reply to Tim Pickles | 11/06/17 07:27pm

**** ** * **** **** ***** *** ******** ** ***** ever *** ***. *** ** **** ** *** *** ******* of *** ***** ** ***, *** ********. ********* **** *** would **** *********** ***** ** ***** *** **** ** ******** of ******* ******** ****** *** ***** **** ******* ***** ******** doesn't ****** ******* **.

Michael Miller

In reply to Lukasz Bucko | 11/06/17 04:54pm

** ******** **** **** ***** ******** ***** ** *** ** issue?

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Tim Pickles

11/06/17 04:45pm

* ***** ***'** **** *** ******* ****** ** ***** ** example ** ********. ***, **** ** **** ** **** * don't ***** **** ****** - *** ** ***** **** *** a **** **** ***, ******** ** ***** ** ******** **** all ****** ** * ***** **** ** ******** *** **********.

*** **** **** **** *** ****** ** ***** **** ******** attacking *** *** *** ***** ** ***** ** ***. ****'* ok ** *** ********* *** * ******* ****** ******** - I'm **** ********** **** *****.

*** **** ******** ** **** ** ***** ** *** ********** recognition ** ********* **** **** *** - **** *** ******* with * ****** ******.

*** **** **** **** **** * ************ *** ********* ** the **** ***** ** *** ****** *** - *** ** you ***** ********* **, ******* *** ****** **** ******.

*'* ******* - ****** ****** **** *** **** ** ***** dirty *******, *** ** *** ******** ** **** ***** ***. Do **** ********* **** ** **** ***** ** *** *** you **** ****? ** ** ** *** **** **** *** dirty ******** ** ***** *** *****, ****** ****'* ** ***** at *** *** **** *** *** **** ******* ** *** bandwagon ** *** ********?

***** ** *** ****/***** ******* - **** ** ******* ** error.

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Brian Karas

IPVM | 11/06/17 05:01pm

*** **** **** **** *** ****** ** ***** **** ******** attacking *** *** *** ***** ** ***** ** ***. ****'* ok ** *** ********* *** * ******* ****** ******** - I'm **** ********** **** *****.

** ** **** ** **** "****** *****". *** **** **** find **** *** ******** ** ********* ****** ** ***** ****** statements, ******, ***. ** ** *** **** **** ** *** say "***'* '******' ********* *****" ** "***'* '******' ***** **** week". ** **** ** ****** ***** ********* ***/*******, ***** ****** involving ****, *** ** ***** *** ******* ********** ******** ** commentary ****** ***** *****. ** **** ******, ***** ******** ** a ******* ** ***** ** ** **** **** ***** ****** they ** ** ****** ***********/********* ****.

*** **** ******** ** **** ** ***** ** *** ********** recognition ** ********* **** **** *** - **** *** ******* with * ****** ******.

****** ***** ************ (** ******* ************ *********) ***** ****** *** the **** ***** *** ******** ** ****. ** *** ** provide *** **** *** ****, *** **** ** ****** **** readers *** *** **** ********* ********** ** ***** ***. ******** of ********* *** **** ** ********* ** **** ******.

* ***** ***'** **** *** ******* ****** ** ***** ** example ** ********.

***** **** *****'* ****/******** **** '********' ** ****? **** ** an ******* ** **** *** ******** ** ** ** '****** from *** ******'.

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Tim Pickles

11/06/17 05:07pm

****** ***** ** *** ****** ** *** ***** - ****** I ****** *** ********* * **** ******* ************** "******".

***** *** * *** **** ************ ******** *****? **** ******** the ******** ******* ** *** ** ******** *** ** ***** so ** *********, *** * ***'* ****** ****** **** ******** or ********** ******** ***.

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Brian Karas

IPVM | In reply to Tim Pickles | 11/06/17 05:45pm

***** *** * *** **** ************ ******** *****? **** ******** the ******** ******* ** *** ** ******** *** ** ***** so ** *

** ****, ***** ** ***** '********' ** **********? ***** ** people **** ******** **** ** ** ***** ******* ***********?

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Tim Pickles

In reply to Brian Karas | 11/06/17 06:06pm

**** ***** **** *** ******* ** **** ************** ** ***********. If ** ****** ** ******** **** **** ** *** ********* haters, **** *********** *********** **** ***, *'* **** ***** **** all **** ** ********. ** * ****** *** ********* ******** him ** ***** *********** ******* ** ****** * *** ****, I ***** ******* **** ** *** *********.

John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Tim Pickles | 11/06/17 10:26pm

**** ******** *** ******** ******* ** *** ** ******** *** in ***** ** ** *********, *** * ***'* ****** ****** your ******** ** ********** ******** ***.

***, ** ******* ** **** ******** *** ****** ** ****** and *********. ** *** *** ********* ** ** **** ** you ****. **** ** ********* **** ***, ** ********, *** should ** ***** *********** ****. * *** ************ ****** **** you **** ****** *** *********** ** ** *** ****.

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David Delepine

AA Security Systems LLC | 11/06/17 05:18pm

** * **** ***** **** *** **** ***** **** * good **** ** **** **** **** ** *** *********** *** from *** **** ***** ** *****. *******, **** ** ******* due ** ***** ****** ********* ********** ** ******** ********* **** for ********* ***** ***** ******* * ********* (* **** *** to **** ******** ***** ** ****** ** *** ***** ***** secrets, *** **** ** ******/****** ****** ** *****). *** **** that ******* ******** ** ********** *******? ********* ***. ******* * have ***** **** *** ** ***** ******** ******* ****** **** John ** *** **** *****, *** *** **** ****** *********** like *** *** *.

* ***** ******* *** ****** ** "***** ****" ******** ******* Hik *** ***** *****, ** ***** ***** **** "*** ***** article ** **** ***** *********, ***** ** ** ****** ***** number..." * *** *** ****** *** *********** ******* ***** **** articles *** ***** ***** ** ********/*********** ***** ** ****** ***** there **** **** * *** ** *** ********** ***** ***** Dahua ******* ** *** ****. *** **** ******** ** **** reminds ** ** "*****, ****** *** ***** ****"

** ******* ****** *******/***** **** * ****** **** **** ****** being **** ***** ********* (*** *****) ** ****** *******. ** you ******* ***** ****** ** **** *** **** *** ******* and ***** **** *** *** *** *** *** *******.

*** * *** ****** ***** **** ******* ** *** ****** control *******, *** *** **** *** ******* **... ** * recall ********* ** *** **** ** * ********** ********** *** it ***?

* ******** ** **** ** ******* ***** ******* ** ** cost ********* *** ******** * **** *****. * **** ***** to ****** ***** ********, *** **** ** ** ***** **** not **** ** ******** *** ** **** *** * *** get ******. * ** **** ** ******* *** ***** ***** Dahua, **** ***** **** **** ****** **** ***** ******** *** the ********** ******. ******* * **** **** ** ****** ** upgrade ** ******* ***** ** **********, ******* **** ****** *** price. * **** **** ******* **** *** ****** ******* *** usually *** **** ***** *** *** **** ********** ************* **** require *** ***** ***** ********. **** ***** *** ******* ******, the ***** *** **** **** ******** *** *** ****** ** serious. *** ***** *** ****** ***********, **** ***** *** *** (at ***** ** ** *********).

******* **** **** ***** ******* ** ********** *** ****** **** questions. ****** *** ** **** ** ***** ** ******** **** :)

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Tim Pickles

11/06/17 05:29pm

* **** **** *** *** ****** *** ** *** ** total ************. *******, ** ******** **** *** ** *** *** backhanded ** ******* ** *** ******. * ***** * **** mentioned **** * ****'* ****** **** ******* **, *** ** market, *** *** * **** *** ******.

******* ** ****** *** *** ***** ** *** ** ** it ******* ** ** *** ********. ** ****** *****, ******* and ****** *** ***** ****** - *** *** ******* ********* from ****** ** ***** ******* ******* **** ** *** ** as * ** ******* ** *** ** ** ************* ****** been ****** *** *** **** ** *****.

* ** ******** ***** ***'** ********** **** *********, ** ***** in ****, ** *** ****, ******* *** ******* * ******* that *** ******** ******* *** *** **** ******* ************ ******** into ****. **** ******* ********* *** ***** ***** ************ ** your ********* ** ****** *** *************** ****** ***** ****** *** whole ********.

***** *** ******* ****** *******, *'* *** **** ** ** that. *** ****** **** ****, * **** *** ******** *** provoked *** **** *** **** ** **** *** ****-*** ******. I ***** **-*** **** **** *****, ** **'** **** **** to *** **** **** ** ********** *** **** ** ***** like ** ** * ******** ***** - *** ***** ****** ! :-)

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