Genetec Expels Hikvision

Author: John Honovich, Published on Nov 08, 2016

Genetec has removed support for Hikvision devices, deeming them 'untrustworthy', citing customer concerns about Chinese government ownership / control.

While manufacturers infrequently remove support for competitive reasons, doing it for cyber security is unprecedented in video surveillance.

We spoke with Genetec to understand their rationale and implementation. Inside, we review that, looking at the risks both to Hikvision and Genetec as well as the overall market impact.

Key Details

Genetec has removed support for Hikvision, Hikvision OEMs (e.g., UTC Interlogix) and Huawei, effective immediately. This includes both direct driver support and ONVIF. ONVIF connections for those products will be denied by Genetec's software.

Customers that want to use those devices will have to obtain a special license with an extra charge ($250 per device), and grant a waiver releasing Genetec of all liability in the event that the customer or third party organizations are hacked through the use of such devices, or if the Genetec software is caused to malfunction. Hikvision itself has a disclaimer rejecting responsibility if their devices are hacked.

Customers that already use these devices (which Genetec described as 'vanishingly small') will need that special license / waiver to continue to do so when they next upgrade but will not be charged.

UPDATE - Moved to New 'Restricted' Category

Hikvision and Huawei have been moved into a newly created 'restricted' category on Genetec's support list. The details remain the same, a waiver is need and a special license connection, but the devices now are labelled 'restricted':

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Comments (226)

Undisclosed Integrator #1

11/08/16 01:26pm

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IPVM | In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #1 | 11/08/16 01:37pm

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In reply to John Honovich | 11/15/16 07:48am

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In reply to John Honovich | 12/29/16 06:39pm

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Undisclosed #6

In reply to Michael Fusco | 12/29/16 06:51pm

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In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #1 | 11/09/16 02:03pm

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Pro Focus LLC | In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #21 | 11/10/16 12:11am

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In reply to Jon Dillabaugh | 11/10/16 12:30am

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Undisclosed Manufacturer #31

In reply to Undisclosed #6 | 12/07/16 09:59pm

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Undisclosed #6

In reply to Undisclosed Manufacturer #31 | 12/07/16 10:37pm

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Undisclosed Manufacturer #31

In reply to Undisclosed #6 | 12/07/16 10:47pm

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In reply to Undisclosed Manufacturer #31 | 12/07/16 11:35pm

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In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #1 | 11/12/16 01:18am

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Undisclosed #6

In reply to Richard Martinez | 11/12/16 07:17am

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Undisclosed Manufacturer #30

In reply to Richard Martinez | 11/23/16 08:45am

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Attila Szucs

In reply to Undisclosed Manufacturer #30 | 11/23/16 11:08am

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Undisclosed Integrator #2

11/08/16 01:32pm

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John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #2 | 11/08/16 01:38pm

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Undisclosed Integrator #2

In reply to John Honovich | 11/09/16 01:15am

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Guilherme Barandas

In reply to John Honovich | 11/10/16 09:38am

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Konstantin Avramenko

11/08/16 01:35pm

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Undisclosed #6

In reply to Konstantin Avramenko | 11/08/16 06:51pm

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Michael Miller

In reply to Undisclosed #6 | 11/08/16 06:54pm

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Konstantin Avramenko

In reply to Undisclosed #6 | 11/08/16 09:40pm

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Undisclosed #6

In reply to Konstantin Avramenko | 11/09/16 04:02am

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Undisclosed Manufacturer #20

In reply to Undisclosed #6 | 11/09/16 06:38am

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John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Undisclosed Manufacturer #20 | 11/09/16 06:57am

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Undisclosed Manufacturer #20

In reply to John Honovich | 11/09/16 07:57am

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Christian Laforte

In reply to Undisclosed Manufacturer #20 | 11/29/16 09:44pm

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David Coughlin

Protection One / ADT | In reply to Christian Laforte | 11/29/16 10:41pm

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Christian Laforte

In reply to David Coughlin | 12/01/16 02:25pm

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Frantz Mathias

In reply to Konstantin Avramenko | 11/09/16 08:24pm

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Konstantin Avramenko

In reply to Frantz Mathias | 11/09/16 09:28pm

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Richard Martinez

11/08/16 02:00pm

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Eddie Perry

In reply to Richard Martinez | 11/08/16 02:15pm

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Richard Martinez

In reply to Eddie Perry | 11/08/16 02:54pm

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Undisclosed #6

In reply to Richard Martinez | 11/08/16 06:55pm

*******, * ***** ****** *** *** *****.

*** ** **** **** ** ******?

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*** ******?

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Andrew Elvish

In reply to Undisclosed #6 | 11/09/16 03:25am

**** ********** ** ***** ******* ** **** ***** *** ***** to ***** *** **** **** ******** **** *** ******* ***** devices ** ******* ***** ******** ***** “************ ******** **********”, ** “jails *** *******”.

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**** *********, ********* & ******* **********
******* ***.

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David Coughlin

Protection One / ADT | In reply to Andrew Elvish | 11/14/16 03:58pm

****, *'* ******* ** ** **** ***** ** "***+ ********** and *********" ** **** ******* ****** **** **** *** ***** employees. ********* ****** **** **** *** **** ****** ** ******** the ******** ** *******'* ***** ******.

****, ***** *** ***** ******* ****** ******** ** ******* ** video ******* ** *** *** ******* (******** ** *******). *** is **** ** ****** *** ******* ******* ** ** ********* so **** ** *****'* ****** ***** ******* *******.

************, * ** ***** **** **** ******* **** ***** *** additional ***** *** ********* ***** **** ***** *******, ********* *******, and ******* *********.

** * **** ****, *'* *** * *** ** ********* because * ******* *** ******* ********* ** ***** ******** ******** our ********, *** *** ******* ** **** ** ** **** due ** ********** ********* *** * *** **** *********. **** again (*** ******* ******** ******* ** **** ****** ******* *******), I've **** ***** ******* ** ** ****** ********...**** ** *****, you **** ** **** ** "************."

******,

***** ********

********, ******** ***** & **********

*** *******

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David Coughlin

Protection One / ADT | In reply to Undisclosed #6 | 11/14/16 03:40pm

*** ***** ****** *** ********* ** ****** ** ******* ************** costs *** ** ***** ******* ***** ****/********. **** ******* ********* sign ******* *****'* ******** ******** **** ***** *******...*** **** ** the ********* *** ****** *** *******.

Undisclosed #6

In reply to David Coughlin | 11/14/16 05:08pm

**** ******* ********* **** ******* *****'* ******** ******** **** ***** parties...

****, *** **** ***** *** ******* **** ******?

"******* ********* ** * ****** **** **** ** *** ** buy. **** ****** ***** ************ ** * **** ****** ** a ***** *****, **** *** ********* ** ******* ** *** way."

"***** ******* *** ********* ** ********** ** **** ******, ***** gave ** *** ***** **** ** **** ** ***********, *** so **** ***** **********, * ********* ***, ** ** ******."

****, **** **** **** ********* **** ******* ******** ** *** lobby.

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Sean Nelson

Nelly Security | 11/08/16 02:15pm

******** ** ** *******. ** ** * ******** ** ******** like **** "** ****** *** **** ***** *** **** ******** and *** **** ** **** ** * **** ** *** more ** *** ********* *******?"

************ ****'*

John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Sean Nelson | 11/08/16 02:25pm

****,

** ******** ** *** ******, *** **** ** **** *** special ***** ******** ********* ******, ***** **** *********** **** ** uncomfortable ***** ********** ** *****, ****** ******************* **** ****** *** ********* *** ***** ******** ***** ** their ********.

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Sean Nelson

Nelly Security | In reply to John Honovich | 11/08/16 02:48pm

**** * *** **** ***** ** ***** ********, *** ** dictate ** * ******** **** ******* **** **** ** *** on (***) ** ******* ********** ******** ** *** *****. **** should ****** ** *** ******** ********, *** *** ****** ********.

*** **** ********* ****** *** **** * ****** *** *** an ***** *** ******* *** **** ** ******* * ******* that "**** **** *****" ** * **.

**** ***** ******* *** **** **** *********. **** **** **** put * **** ** ********** ********.

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Luis Carmona

IPVMU Certified | In reply to Sean Nelson | 11/08/16 03:17pm

******* ***'* ********* **** ******* ** ***- ***** *** **** other ******* ** *******. ****'** **** ****** **** ***'* ******* these.

*** ********* *** *** ****** ***** *** ********** ********* ********, but *** ** **** ** ***** *** ********** **** **** up **** *** ******* * ******* "**** ** ********* ******".

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Sean Nelson

Nelly Security | In reply to Luis Carmona | 11/09/16 02:32pm

***** * **** ** * *** ****** **** ******, "*** cant ******* ***** ******* ** **** ******** ****** *** *** an ***** ***"

*** *** **** ** *** ********** *******?

Undisclosed Manufacturer #3

11/08/16 02:15pm

**** **** *******, * ***** ** **** *** ***** ****** and ****** ** ****** ** '***' * ***** *** **** a *** *****.

Undisclosed Integrator #1

11/08/16 02:23pm

*** ****-*** ******** ***** ******* *** ** **** ** * VMS ******** * ******'* ***** ********* ******* ******.

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Luis Carmona

IPVMU Certified | In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #1 | 11/08/16 03:23pm

*** *, * *****. * ***'* ***** ***'* *** *** many ********* ******* ** * ******* ******* ** *** **** people ********** ********* **** ******* *******. ******** **** * ***'* think **** ***** ****** *** **** ****. *** ******* ********* this **** ******** ****** ** "*********" ***** *** *** ** being ******** ** ******* *** ********* ******* *** ******* *********.

Undisclosed Integrator #1

In reply to Luis Carmona | 11/08/16 03:29pm

*******, ** **** *** ******** *** *** * ******* ****** with ***** *******, *** **** **** ******** *** ****** **** some *** ** *******, **** ******* ** *** ********* ******* because ** ***** *** *****. ** **** **** ** ****** upgrade *** ****** ******* *** ***** ******* **** *** ********* cameras. *** ******** **** *** **** **.

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Luis Carmona

IPVMU Certified | In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #1 | 11/08/16 08:48pm

** *** ***'* **** ** ******, *** **** **** *** Hikvisions *** *** **** *** *** **? ** *** **** if ** *** * ******** ******** ******** ** *** ******* dealer **** **** ** **?

Undisclosed Integrator #4

11/08/16 02:56pm

** ***** *** ****** ******* ***** *** **** ****? **** they ***** *** **** ********* ******* *** ******** * ****** by ******** *** **** **** **** *** ***** *****? ** is **** **** * ********* **** ** **** ***** ********* happy?

John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #4 | 11/08/16 03:04pm

** ***** *** ****** ******* ***** *** **** ****?

******* **** ***** **** ******** ***** / ********* ******** ***, due ** ******** *******, **** **** **** *** ******* ** share ** ********.

**** *** ** ************ (* ***'* **** ******* * ***'* know **** **** ****) *** * ***** **** ********* ******* there ** *********** **** ****.

Undisclosed Integrator #4

In reply to John Honovich | 11/08/16 07:28pm

******* *** ****** *******, ** **** ****** **** * ********* move. ** **** ***'* **** ** ***** ** ******** **** should ** ******* ** *** ** **** ******** ***** **** will **** **** ********* ** *** ** ** **** ** public. ** **** ** ** ********** ***** ***** ** **** more ********* ** ******* ******* ** ***** ****** ** * risk, **** *** ***** ******** ****** ** **** *****. ****'* pretty ******** ***** **** ** ****** ********.

****** *** ******** **** ** ******** ********* *** ******* ******* and **'* ******** ******* ** ***** *** **** *****.

John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #4 | 11/09/16 07:00am

******* ** *** ** **** ******** ***** **** **** **** with ********* ** *** **

*** *** *** '***' ********* ***** ***** / ********** ** the ******* **********? ** ************* ** **** *** ***** ** not *** ******** ********* ************* *** *** ******* ********** ******* cyber ******** ******* *** *** ********** ** ***** ***** ********* devices.

Tim Russell

In reply to John Honovich | 01/24/17 06:05pm

** *** ****** ***** **** ***** ** ****** ****** ** use ** ******* ***** ?

******, ** **** *** ***** **** **** ***** *** **** an ******** ***** *** ** ** **** * **** ******* source ???

**** *** ***** **** ******** ** **.

Undisclosed Integrator #32

In reply to Tim Russell | 01/24/17 07:36pm

** ****** **** **** *** ***** *** ***** - **** as *** *** **** ********-************ ******* ** ******* **** ***** into.

*** ******* **** ******** ***** ******** **** ** ***** ** controlled ** * ******* ********** ****** **** ** ******* ** be ***-******. ********* *** *** **** ******* ********.

***** ** * ******* ****** ** ************ ******** ***** *** why ***** * ******** ********** **** ** ********* *** ********* of * ********* ****** ***** ********** ******* **********- ******** ******** gear. ** **** ** *****? ** ** ***** *** ***** posed?

Tim Russell

In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #32 | 01/24/17 08:59pm

***'* **** *** **** ***'** ******* *** *****.

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Brian Karas

IPVM | 11/08/16 02:57pm

* ****** ***, ** **, ******* **** ** **** ** keep ** **** ******* ********* ***'*. ***** * ***** ** is ******** * ******* ******** ***** ** ***** **** ******* Hikvision *** *******, ** ***** ***** ***** ********* **** * bit ** * ****.

***** **** *** ****** ***** ******* ******* *** ******* ** ONVIF ************** *******, *** ** ********* ****** ** ****, ******'* they ***** ******** *** ** *** **** ******** ** ***-********* products ** ** ******** **** *******?

**** *** *** ** ***** **** **** ******** * **** in * ******* **** **** * ******. ** **** **** some ** *** *******, *** **** *** ** ***% ********* if ***** ** **** ****** ** ******.

John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Brian Karas | 11/08/16 03:02pm

** **** **** **** ** *** *******, *** **** *** be ***% ********* ** ***** ** **** ****** ** ******.

*** ********** ********, ** ** ***** ** ** **** ** 'sneak **' ********. ***** ** * *** ** ******* **** and ** ** *** **** **** ** ****** *** *** an *** ** * ******* ** ** *** ** ** motivated (*.*., *** ** *** ** ********* **** ******* **). Plus, *****'* **** ** **** '*************' **** *** ***** ************ / ********* ** ** ***** ***** ********** ********.

* ***** ** ***** *****, **** **** ** ******* *******, Hikvision ** ***** ** ******** ******* ******** ** ******* ** the ** ***.

Robert Shih

SavvyTech Security | 11/08/16 03:01pm

***** ******** **** * ******* ********.

"***** *****:*****, *** *** * **** ***?

****** ****:*****! *'** ***** **** *** **** ******* ******* *** ********* recently. *** *** ***** ** ******** ***** *******?

***** *****:***** *** *** ********** **. ********* *** **** ******* **** our ********* *** ** ******** ********. ******* **** **** ************ are ***** *********, ******* ********* **** **** ** * ****** cost *** *** ***** ***** **** ** **** * ******. A ***** ******* **** **** ******* ** **** ***** ** set ** ** ********* ****.

** ******* ** *****

********** ** ******** ** *****, ** *** *** ******** ** removing *** ***** ************ **** *** ********* ****** ****

****** ****:**** *** **** ****** ** ******* *****'* *** *.*** ********?

* ** ************ ********* ***** **** *****:****://****.********…***/***-*******-****-****.*******-*******-*******-*******-****

***** *****:******* *** ******* *** ****** ****** * ****** ** ******* and **** ********* ** *** *******. ************* * ***'* *** have ****** ** *** **** ** ******* **** *** ********* are ******* **

****** ****:**** ** *** ******* ******?

***** *****:************* ***** ** *** ****** ** ********* ***** **** * could **** *** **** *** *********** * ****. ******* ** the ****** **** *** ***** ******** *** ***** **** ****** be **** ** *** * ***** *********** *** *** ***** functions ***** *** ****

** ***** ******** **** * *** **** ****?

****** ****:******, *'* ****** *** * ****** ** **** *** *** interested ** * ********* *** ****** *********** ******

* ****** ******, ** *****-****** ******* ***** *** * ****** license ** ********?****

***** *****:** ***** ****** ** *** ***** *****

**** ** **** **** ******** ********"

** *********, **** *** ********* **** ***** *** *** ***.

Undisclosed #5

11/08/16 03:05pm

** ******* ********* *** ******* ***** ********* ******* *** *** risk ** ***** ******, *** **** *** ****** ***** ********** HikVision? **'* *** ** ***, *** ***'* "*****" ********* ****** because *** ******** ******** **...

*** **** ****** * *** ****** *** **** ** **** Genetec ************ ** ** ***** **** ** * ******** ** hacked ** * ****** ** ***** * ********* ******. *** again - ***** *** **** *** *** **** *********? *** would **** ** *******'* *****? *'* *** * ****** *** maybe *** **** *** ** ****, *** ** ***** ******* weak.

** *** ***** **** ** ******* ** *** ****, **** the **** ***** *********** ** **** ******* *****'* ****/***** ********* as * ******** ******* ***/** **** **** ** ** **** as ***** ***** ** ***** ***** ** * ******* ******** (for ***** *******). **** *** ************ ** **** ***** ***** taking * ********* **** ***** ** ***** *** *********, ***** HikVision ******** **** ** "*********** *****".

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Brian Karas

IPVM | In reply to Undisclosed #5 | 11/08/16 03:51pm

*** ***** **** ** *******'* *****?

* ***** *** ********* ***** ** ** ******* **** * hack ** ******* *** ****** **** ** *** ********* *******. If *******'* ****** ** ****, **** *** *** ******* ***** the ******* ********** ****** ** ********** ******** ***** ******* ****** hardware. **** ***** *** ** **** ***-****** ***** ******, ** would ** **** **** * ******* ****** - ********, ****, deliberate.

******** **** *** ******* ** ******* *** *********'* ********* ** in **** *****, **** **** ***** ** ******* *** *******. Lock *** ********* ******* ** **** ** ***** * *** sales, *** **** ****** **** **** ***** ******* ** **** to * ****** ******** **** ***** **** **** *** *.*. and **** ****** ******.

Undisclosed Manufacturer #10

In reply to Undisclosed #5 | 11/08/16 04:21pm

***** *** ***'* ***** ***, ***** ** ** ******** ****.

**** ***** *** ** ******* **** ********* *** *******? **** say **** **** *** *** * ****** ******. *** ******* down *** **** **** **** ** ******* *** ******* ** their **** **** ******, ** ******* ******** *** **** *** currently *****. *** ** * ******, *** "***** *****" ***-*********** CCTV ****** ** * ** ******* ** ********* ** *** secure *******.

** * ********** *** ************* ******** ** *** ******* ** for **** ** ******?

** *** *** *** **** *** *******, **** ** * Hik *** ******* *** * ******* ** ******* ********* ** happen??

Pete Lay

11/08/16 03:08pm

*** ** ** *******!!! * ******* **** *** ****** * strong *********.

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Marty Calhoun

IPVMU Certified | 11/08/16 03:09pm

********* ****, *** **** **** **** *********, *** #* ******** of ***** ******* *** ********* *****-****, **** ***** ***** ****** to ****** *** ****-**** ******** ** ***** ******* *** ***** us *** ** *** ****** *******, ******** *** ******** ********* already ********* ** ****** *** ********* *** '****' ******* **** their ****** *****, *****-****.

Eddie Perry

In reply to Marty Calhoun | 11/08/16 03:11pm

*** **** ** **** ******** *** ******

John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Marty Calhoun | 11/08/16 05:34pm

********* ****

*****, *** *** *******! :)

* ***** **** ***** ** ********* **** (*** *********) ** for ******** ** ****** ***** *** ********* / ******* ********** connection.

**** **** **** - * ** *** ***** ** ** good *** **** ********. ** ***** ******* ***** ****** *** likely ** ***** ****** ** ***** ******* *********, ******** ** the ***** ******** ***** *** ******* ********** *******. **** ** you *** ******** ****, ***** *** *** *** **** ** concerns *** **** *********** ******** **. *****, ** ******* ****** putting *** **** ********* ** ***** **** ***** *** ***** who *** ******* ** ******** ***** ******** (*** ******* *** a ***'* *** ** ********** *** ********* *******), **** ***** create * *** ** ******** *** *********** ***** *********. * haven't ****** ** ****** ** ******* ***** *** **** ***** use **** ** *** ***** *******, *** ** ******* ** as ***** *** ** ** ****.

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Marty Calhoun

IPVMU Certified | In reply to John Honovich | 11/08/16 08:17pm

****- * *** ***** *** *** ****** **** *** ** seems ******** ****** **** *** **** ******* ********* ***** *** $ *** ***** ****, **** ** *** *** ****. ** certainly ** *** **** ******. * ***** **** ******* *** a *** ******* *'* **** *** * **** ******* *** Genetec *** *** *** ********* ***** **** *** *****. ********* will *********, *** * ** **** **** **** **** ** the ******** *** **** ** ****-**** ** *** ******. ** there ** * ****-**-**, *** **** ** **** *** ****** my ***** *** ***,.*** ********* ** *** ******* *** *** every ******** ** ********, *** *** ******* ** *** ******* and ******* * ******* ****** *** ****** ** ********. ****, meaning **** **** * ** ** ** *** ** ********** customers ******** **** **** *** ****** ********* ********, **** ********* to ** ***** *** ******** *****, **** **** ******** ********* the ********* *** *** *******, **** ********* ** ******** **** have **** *** *** ********* **** ******. * **** ***** been ***** ** ******, ****, *** *** ** ********* ** anyone ** ***** **** *** ***** * ****** * ****** and **** ******* * ******* **** **** *** ********* **.

*** * ***** ***** ** ** **** ****...

John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Marty Calhoun | 11/08/16 08:22pm

** ***** ******** ****** **** *** **** ******* ********* ***** are $ *** ***** ****, **** ** *** *** ****.

* *****, ****'* *** * ***** ************* ******* *********** *** ******** ****. *** ** ** * **** *** Genetec ** ********* ********* ** **** ** ****** **** ***** cameras.

****, ******* **** **** * ** ** ** *** ** government ********* ******** **** **** *** ****** ********* ********, **** commented ** ** ***** *** ******** *****, **** **** ******** regarding *** ********* *** *** *******, **** ********* ** ******** they **** **** *** *** ********* **** ******.

**** ***** ** *** *** * ***'* ****** *** *** think ** ** **** **** *** **** *** **** ******** to ********* *********'* ******* ********** *********. *** ****** ***'* ***** it ********* *** **** **** *** ******** ******** **** *** high ****** **** ** ***** ***** **** ** ********** ********* to ******* ******?

Eddie Perry

In reply to Marty Calhoun | 11/08/16 08:30pm

**** **** **** * "********" **** **** * ******** ***** its * ******** ********* *****.

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Matthew Netardus

IPVMU Certified | In reply to Marty Calhoun | 11/08/16 11:28pm

* ******'* *** **** ** **** **** ** ********** ******* towards *********, ** ***** *********, *** ** **** ****** * growing ********* **** ********* ** *** *** *** ********/** * security **** *** *****. ** ** ***** **** **** ******* ending *******, * ***** *** ******* ****** ***'* ** *** significant (********** ** ***** ***** ******* ***** ***** ***** ** subsidize *********); *** ** **** ******* ********* **** ****** ** catch ** **** ***** *** ********* ***/** ****** **** ****** end ***** ** **** * ****** **** ** *** ************* and ********* ******** ** ********* **** ** ***** **** * significant **** ** **** (********** ***** **** **** ****** ******* billion ** *** ** ****** **** ***** ** *** ****** of ********** *** ********** ******* ***** ******** **** **** ***** an ******** *******).

** ***'* ** ** ******* **** ******* *** ****, *** it ** ********** *** **** **** ***** ** ****** **** or **** ******* **** *** **** ** **** **** ** expand ***** ********* ** *** ****.

Undisclosed Integrator #19

In reply to Marty Calhoun | 11/09/16 02:31am

*** ******* **** ******* ****.

**** ** * ***** ****. **'* ****** *** *** **** friendly. ** **'* ******* ***** * ***** ***** ********* **** anywhere. *'* **** ** * ***** */** ** * ***.

* *** *** ** *** ***** ***** ** *** **** in ** *******. *'* ***** ****** ****** **** ** ** months *****.

John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #19 | 11/09/16 03:01am

*******:****-**** ***** ******** ** ****. ** **** **** ***** **** ******* ** ** ********, not ***** ** ******* ******* *** ** *** ** **** not ***** ** ** ** **** ************* (*.*., ******** ** a ******* ******** ******, ********* ******** *********, ***.)

Undisclosed #6

In reply to John Honovich | 11/15/16 09:33am

** ** **** ** * **** ** **** ****?

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Greg Hussey

11/08/16 03:23pm

*** *** ******* ***** * ******* ***** **** **...

*** ******* **** ********* *** ******* ** **** *******'* ******** model **** *** ****** ** *** *** *** ** *** market ***** ********* ** *********. *** ********* **** ******* ** buy $*** ********* ******* *** *** *** ***** *** *** least ****** ** *** *******.

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Brian Rhodes

IPVMU Certified | In reply to Greg Hussey | 11/08/16 03:26pm

******, ** **** **** ** ****.

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Brian Rhodes

IPVMU Certified | 11/08/16 03:24pm

** ** ** *********** **** *** **** *******, *** * expect ***** ****** ************* *** ***** **** ******* ** ****** this ****.

******* ** *********** *********'* ***-**** ********* ** *********** ******** **** to ******* ***** *******. **** * ***** ***** ** ****, other ****** ************* **** ** ****** **** **** * ***** price ********** ** ******.

Undisclosed #6

11/08/16 03:29pm

******* ** ********* ******?

Undisclosed Integrator #7

In reply to Undisclosed #6 | 11/08/16 03:30pm

*** **** *** **** *** ****** ***** ********? ******* ******** gutting ** *** *** *** ***** ******* ** **** **** the ******** ******** *** **** ******* *** *** *** ******* in ** ******* ** **** ********.

John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Undisclosed #6 | 11/08/16 06:16pm

******* ** *********

*******, ********* ** ********* / **, *** ****** ** *******, is * ******* ** ****, ***** *** ********* *******. *********:********* ******** ******* ****** ** ****, ***** *** *********

* ** *** **** ***** ****** *** ***** **** ***** company *** **** *******'* ************, ***** **** ********* *** ***** to ** *******.

Undisclosed #6

In reply to John Honovich | 11/08/16 06:47pm

***, *** *** ** *** **** ** ***** ********* ******* Hik **** ** ***** ********* ******* *****?

Undisclosed Manufacturer #10

In reply to Undisclosed #6 | 11/08/16 06:55pm

*** ******* *** ***** ********** *** *** **** *******. ** send * *** *** ******* *** **** *** * ********. vs. ********* * ***** **** ** *** *******.

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Luis Carmona

IPVMU Certified | In reply to Undisclosed Manufacturer #10 | 11/08/16 07:07pm

******* *** ** ******** *** *** ** *** **********. ** I ******** *********, **** ************ **** ******** *** ***** **** of * *** ******* ** ***** ****** ** **** ************, kind ** **** *** **** *** ***** * ***** ** Public ** ********* ** **** ** **** ******. *** ****** half ** *** *** ******* ** ****** ** **** ******.

** ****** **** *** ****** ******** **** ****** *****. ****'* why ********* **** *** *** ** ** ******* ** ******* another *********** **** *** * ****** **** **** ** ** labelled.

** **** *****'* **** *** ********* ***'*, ** ****'* *******, counterfeited ** *********** ***** ** *************. * ******** ** ** computer *** **** * *** * ****** ********* ** ********* on * ******* *********** ****** ** ******* ********* ******* **** were ******* *** **** ** **** * **** ******. **** I ****** ** ** ******, * ***** *** *** *****, no-name ***** ******* ***** ** *** ********* *** *** **** MAC ********* ** ****, ******* *** **** ****** (***** ************* assign ** ********* ***** ** *** *******) ** **** *** same ** ******* ** **** *********.

Eddie Perry

In reply to Luis Carmona | 11/08/16 07:16pm

**** *** **** ** *** ** **** **** **** *** mac ********* **** ** ******* ******** ****. ** **** **** of *** ******** ** *** ****.

* ****** *** ********* ******* ***** * ** * ****** for ******* ** ** ***** *** **** ****** * **** up * **** ** **** *** ***.

** * ** ** **** * **** ** *** ****, Panasonic ** ****** *** **** ******* ** ******* ***** ** the ****** ******* ** *** ******* ** **** ***** *** SNMP ** **** *** ***** *** ****** ****** *** *********.

*** * ** ***** **** ** ** ******** ******* ***** now * ** ********* *** ******* ******** ** *** **** version ** ********.

Undisclosed #6

In reply to Eddie Perry | 11/08/16 07:40pm

**** **** **** *** *** ********* **** ** ******* ******** them...

*** ** *** ***'* **** **** **:

Eddie Perry

In reply to Undisclosed #6 | 11/08/16 07:50pm

*** *** ***** ** **** ** **** * *** ****** than **** **** **** ******* **** ** *** ******** *** protections ******* ****.

*** ** ***** **** ** * ** ****** (*.*. *** all ****** **** *** ****)

Undisclosed #6

In reply to Eddie Perry | 11/08/16 08:00pm

****** **** *** ****

**** *** * ******** ******, **** *** * ***?

**** ******* **** ********** ******* ****...

**** **** *********, *** *** **** ***** *******, ****.

Eddie Perry

In reply to Undisclosed #6 | 11/08/16 08:07pm

******** ** * ** ****** ********* *** *** **** ******* cameras

****, ****, *********, ******/*******, *** ********

**** *** **** ******* ******** ** ***** ** ******* ******* that ***** *****

******* *** **** **** ******* ** ***** *** ******** *** 5+ **** *** ********, **** **** ***** *** ******* ** much ** ********, *** ** **** ** * **** **** Hikvison * ***** ***** *** *** **** ******* ** ** date ***** *** ******** ** **** ** **** ****** ** accountable ***** ** ***** ******** *** ***** ******* *************** ** using *** ****** ********.

Undisclosed #6

In reply to Eddie Perry | 11/08/16 08:13pm

******* *** **** **** ******* ** ***** *** ******** *** 5+ **** *** ********, **** **** ***** *** ******* ** much ** ********...

********** **** ******* ***** ** ********* ******* **** *** **** "up-to-date" *** ****** *** *********...

Undisclosed Manufacturer #10

In reply to Undisclosed #6 | 11/08/16 08:09pm

** *** **** *** ***** *** *******, *** *** ****** the *** *******, **** ** * *********. *** *** **** change *** ****** ****** ** ***** ** * **** *******.

**** ************* **** *******/****** *** ******** ** ***** ***** ********.

Undisclosed Manufacturer #24

In reply to Undisclosed Manufacturer #10 | 11/09/16 04:07pm

*** ***'* ****** *** *** *******. ****, ***** ********* ******* don't ***** *** ******** ** ** ******** ******* *** *** being *************.

Eddie Perry

In reply to Undisclosed Manufacturer #10 | 11/09/16 04:26pm

** **** **** ****** *** *** **** *** ********. *** get *** *** **** ****** ** *** *************.

Undisclosed #6

In reply to Undisclosed Manufacturer #10 | 11/08/16 07:14pm

****** **** ******* ***** ***** ************* **** ***** **** *******. Many **** ****** **** **** ******* *** ********.

** ******* ****, *** ***** ****** *** * "***** ****" mode.

Michael Miller

11/08/16 03:35pm

*********, ********* *** **** ****** *** ****** ****** *** **** of *** ******* ********** ********* ********. **** ***** **** ******** if **** *** ***** *****? ** *** ***** ********* ***** be ** *******? ** *** ** ********** ***** *********** $** IP ******* ***** ****** *** ****?

Undisclosed Integrator #7

In reply to Michael Miller | 11/08/16 03:38pm

** ******'* ****** ******.

(***** **** * ****** ******)

Michael Miller

In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #7 | 11/08/16 03:41pm

***** *** *** **** ******** ***** ** *** ** **********?

Undisclosed Manufacturer #13

In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #7 | 11/08/16 06:24pm

****** ******* *** *** ** *** ******* ******* **** ********* Toughbooks **** ****** *** ********** ****** *** ****** *** ****-****** devices. * ******* ****** ******** ** *** ** ***** ***** beg ** ****** **** **** ****....

Undisclosed Integrator #2

In reply to Michael Miller | 11/09/16 12:33am

** ** *** ********** ** *** ** ********** * ***** not *** ****. ************* ** *** **** *** *** ******** in *******. ** * *** * **** ****** ** ****** and ***** ** ********** **** *** ******* ** *** * would ** **** ** *****.

Undisclosed #6

11/08/16 03:43pm

*** ********* **** ******* ** *** $*** ********* ******* *** the *** ***** *** *** ***** ****** ** *** *******.

*******, *** ****, *** **** ******* ********* *** ****** ** want ** *** **** *** *******, **** *** ********* *** wishing ** *** *******.

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Luis Carmona

IPVMU Certified | In reply to Undisclosed #6 | 11/08/16 03:49pm

********. ** **** ******* ***** ** *** *** ******, *** when ******** ** *** *******, * ***** **** **** ****** **** *****. ***** *** ***** *** **** ************ ** ***.

Undisclosed #6

In reply to Luis Carmona | 11/08/16 04:33pm

...*** **** ******** ** *** *******...

******** ** ****?

*** ** ***** *******?

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Luis Carmona

IPVMU Certified | In reply to Undisclosed #6 | 11/08/16 06:53pm

"******** ** ****?

*** ** ***** *******?"

*'** **** *** ******** ****** *************, *** ***** *** ******** up ** ***. :)

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Marty Calhoun

IPVMU Certified | In reply to Luis Carmona | 11/08/16 08:20pm

**** * ****, ***** *** ** ******** *** *** *** to *** ****....

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Luis Carmona

IPVMU Certified | In reply to Marty Calhoun | 11/08/16 08:29pm

**, * ***'* ***** ****. **** ****** ****** **** **** money ******* ** ***** **********., *** *** *** ** **** got ********. :)

Undisclosed Integrator #2

In reply to Marty Calhoun | 11/09/16 12:38am

** *******, *** *** *** **** *** *** ****** ******** off ***** *******.

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Marty Calhoun

IPVMU Certified | In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #2 | 11/12/16 12:11am

******** ** **** **** ***** *** **** *********** ******** ** need ** ******* ****, *** *** *** ****** ** *** end ** *** **** **** ******, *** ******* **** **** having * ************ **** ****** *** ********** ******** **** *** reliable, ** **** ** ********** ********* *** ********* * ****.

******** **, ***?

Undisclosed Integrator #2

In reply to Marty Calhoun | 11/14/16 02:40am

**, ********** *** ********. * ***'* ***** ***** ******** *** the *** ** *** ****.

Undisclosed #6

In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #2 | 11/12/16 12:16am

...*** *** **** *** *** ****** ********...

*********, ** ** **** ****** ********, ** *** ***** **'* really ** '******** *** *** *** ** *** ****?'.

**'* **** ****** ******* :)

Undisclosed Integrator #2

In reply to Undisclosed #6 | 11/14/16 02:43am

****'* * *** ** ***** ** ****** ** ****** ** deposit.

Undisclosed Manufacturer #13

In reply to Luis Carmona | 11/08/16 06:25pm

**** *** ***. *** $** ****, * *** *** * Hanwha/Samsung.

Undisclosed Manufacturer #8

11/08/16 03:48pm

***'* **** **** **** **** **. ******* **** **** **** open, ** ** ****** ** *** *** *********** **** *** larger *** ** *** *********** **** ******** *******'* *** ******** by **** ******* * **** ** *** ***** **** ***** cameras. ******** ****** ********* ***** *** * ******** *******'* *******? Just **** ******* *** **** ********** *** ***** **** ***** ONVIF ******* ** ** ****. ***'** **** ** ******.

*** ** ***** ****** *********** **** **** ** ******* ***** like * ****** ******. ****** ***** *** ***** **** ******** with *** ********* ******* ***** ** **** ** ***** ***'* and *** *** ** **** **** **** ******* ****** ***** cameras *** **** *** ***** ** ****** * ****** ***** to ******* ****.

****** *********** ** **** ***** **** ** ****** ** ********** for ***** *********** **** ** **** ******.

Michael Miller

In reply to Undisclosed Manufacturer #8 | 11/08/16 03:53pm

****** ***** *** ***** **** ******** **** *** ********* ******* wants ** **** ** ***** ***'* *** *** *** ** tell **** ****Genetec ****** ***** ******* *** **** and wants to charge a higher price to license them.

* ***'* ***** ** ********* ******* *** *** ****. **'* the ********** ********* ** *** *******.

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Marty Calhoun

IPVMU Certified | In reply to Undisclosed Manufacturer #8 | 11/12/16 12:12am

**** ** **** ******* ** *** *** ******* *********?

Undisclosed End User #9

11/08/16 03:57pm

********* ***** **** ****** ***-***** ***** ******* **** * ****** like. ** ** *** ****, * ***** ** ******* ** have ** ******** *** **** **** ******** *** **. ***** this ** *** ********** ** **.

Undisclosed Manufacturer #3

In reply to Undisclosed End User #9 | 11/08/16 04:11pm

******** - **** *** *** ****** '**'.

**** *** ****** ***** ** **** ********* ** *** ******* an ***-**** *** ** ** ******* ** *** ***** ***** needed ** *** ********* ******* ** * ******* ****** *** advised ** *** ***** ** ******* ***'* **.

**** *** ** *** *** *** *** ***-**** ******, **** are *** ******* ** *** **********. **** *** ******** ** to ** **** *** ***** ******* **********.

Undisclosed End User #9

In reply to Undisclosed Manufacturer #3 | 11/08/16 04:51pm

** ******* *** ****** **** ****** ** ****** ***** ** these ***** *******, *** *** * ***-** ****** ******* **** adding * ********* ******?

*** ******* **** ****** ******* ********** ***** ** *** * Hikvision ****** ****** *** ****?

Undisclosed Manufacturer #3

In reply to Undisclosed End User #9 | 11/08/16 04:57pm

How ******* **** ****** ******* ********** ***** ** *** * ********* ****** ****** *** ****?

** *****'* - *** **** *** ** * ********* (***** with *** **** *** *** ****** ******) *** ** ***** it **** ***** ***** ******** ** *** *** *******.

Undisclosed Integrator #2

In reply to Undisclosed End User #9 | 11/09/16 12:41am

*** *****'* ******* *** ** * ******* ** *** *** users **** ***** ******* *** ********? ***** * *** **** at **** *****.

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Marty Calhoun

IPVMU Certified | In reply to Undisclosed End User #9 | 11/12/16 12:22am

What ***** ******* ******* **** ** *** *****?** *** ***** *** ********?**** ******* *** ************ ******** *** license **** **** ** ** *** "*** ***" *** ** doing ********. ******* ******* ******* **** *** ****** *** ********** because ** *** ***** *** ****, *******, ********** *** ******* all **** **, * ****** ******* ** **** ** ** companies ***** ******* ** ********.

$**,*** $ **,*** **** $ *,*** ** ******* ****? ** cameras, ****. **** **** ******* **** *** *** *&* ***** 10 ***** ****. *** ******** ***** * ********* *** ********** s **** ** ***** ** *** ****** **** ***** ***** suckers **** ******** ************ **** *** *********.

**** ****** ***** **** **?

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Matthew Netardus

IPVMU Certified | In reply to Marty Calhoun | 11/12/16 12:33am

* **** ****** *** ** ********* ***** ******* ** ** towards *********. ** ****** ******** ****** ***** ***** ******** ** be *******, *** ******* **** **** *** ** ***** ********* pay *** *&*? ***** * ********** ******'* **** ********* ******* being * ****** ***** *** ***** *** *********, *** *** up ****** **** *** ********* ** ***** ** *** ****** level ********. ********* **** ****, *******, *** ***** ***** ***** cameras, *** ** *** ****** **** *** ***** ***** *** used ****** ********* ** *** ******* ** *** **** ******** then ***'** ******* * *** ** *** ***** ******* ****.

********** **** ******** *** * *** ** ** **** **** market * ******* **** *****. ** **'* *** **** ****** level ******** *** *********** ******** ****'* **** *********, ** ***** towards ** *** ** ******* **** ** *** ** *** work; *** ** *** ****** ***** *****'* ***** **** ****'* any ********** ******* **** ******* ***** **** ******** *** * true *** **** *** *** ******** ************.

Eddie Perry

In reply to Marty Calhoun | 11/12/16 01:23am

** ****** ******* **** *** **** * ***** ******** ***** that ****** *** *** ***** *** **** ** *** *** things **** *&*, ******* *********, ********, *** *********.

********* *** ******, **** *** ******* *****?

* **** *** ****** ****** **** * **** *** *** have ** **** ****** *** **** ***** ** **, ****** it ** *** *****? *** *** **** **** **** *** extra ***** *** ******** ** **** **** *** ******* ** make **** ***** ** ********.

*** *** ******* **** ******** ***** **** ******* *** ******** of ********* *** *** *** ****** ****** **** ** **** by *** ***** **** ******** **** "has **".

**** *** *** *** ******** **** ******* **** * ****** to ** ******** **** ******* *** **** *** **** ** the **** ***** ** ******** **** *** *** * ****** on **** *** ****** ******** *** *** *********** *** *** playing **** ***** .

*** **** ** ***** ** ******** ***** ****** *** ***** have ****** **** *** *** **** ****.

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Luis Carmona

IPVMU Certified | In reply to Marty Calhoun | 11/12/16 10:57pm

***** * ***** ***'** ******* *** ********* ** *****, *** the ******** ********** ** *** ** *** **** ** *** technology *****. **** *** ****** ** *** ****+****** ********* **** for ****** **** ********* *** ******, ********* ********, **********, ***, Oracle ** *** ***** ******-****** ***** ******** *********? **'* *** really **** *********. *** **** ****** *** **** *********, *** CPU ****, ******* ******* *** *******.

*** **** **** ************* ****** ****** ** ***** ****** *** pitiful *** ******* *** ******** ***** ****, ***** *&* ******* go * *** *******. **** * **** ** **** ** IT *** * *********, ********* ** ****** ** *** ****** of ***** ** *** ** *** *** ******** **** ****** to ** ******* ***** **** ********** ********, *** ****** ** that. *** **** * ******* ***** **, **** *** *********** software **** * ***** ****** ****** ***** ****, ** *** development ******* *** ** ** *********** **** * **** ******* sales ******.

* ***'* ***** *** ********* **** ** **** ****. ** least ** ***** **** ** ********* *** ***** *-***** ** Microsoft ** ******.

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Abdelhamid Metwally

IPVMU Certified | 11/08/16 04:17pm

** ***** ******** **** *** *** *** *********** **** ** Dahua (* ********* ***** ******* *******) *** ******* (** ********-***** Chinese *******).

Undisclosed Manufacturer #11

11/08/16 04:22pm

***** *** *** ***** ************ ***** ********* * ***** ***** company

*) **********: **** ** **** ** **** ********* ** ****** dump ** ***** ****** ** ***** ******* ** ******* ***********. This ** ***** ****** *** ******* ** ******* ********* *** nobody *** ***** *******.

*) ********: ** *** ********** ** *********** *************** ** ******* countries * *** ** *********** ******* **** ***** ** ********** by * ******* *************. **** ** **** **** ****** *** doing *******.

****** ** *******, ******** ******.

Undisclosed #6

11/08/16 04:28pm

** ******* ****** ***** ** ** ***** *********, ** *** base *******, ** **** ************* ***** *********** **** **% ** all ***** ******* ** *********, *****?

Undisclosed Manufacturer #10

In reply to Undisclosed #6 | 11/08/16 04:36pm

**** *** ***** ***** **********, **** *** **** ******* *** manufacturer ***** *** ********/*********** *** ********** **** ***** ** *** license.

Undisclosed #6

In reply to Undisclosed Manufacturer #10 | 11/08/16 04:40pm

****** **** ***'* ** *******.

*** * ******* * ********** ***** ********** *** **** ****** to **** **** *** * ***** ******, *** ***** ********** else.

*** * ****** *** *** ***** ****?

Undisclosed Manufacturer #10

In reply to Undisclosed #6 | 11/08/16 04:50pm

** *** *** ** ** **** *********.... *** ***** *** require * *******. *** *** ** * ****** *** **** ONVIF *******, *** ***'* *** **** *** ****** ***** *** load ********.

***, *** *** ****** *** ***** *******, *** ** **** are *** ** ***** ****, ** ****** **** *******, *** then **** *** ***** ******** ** *********** *** ***** ******, etc.

**** **** **** ********* *** **. **** **** *** * free ******* ** **** ****** * ********* ******, *** **** you *** *** ***** ******. * ******* *** ******* *** free **** *** ******* ************ ***** * ******* *****, ** they *** ******* **** ** ** *** ****** ****** ***** as ****. (** ****** **** ***/*****/****** ** ***** *** **-*** vs. *****, *** *** ***** ****....)

Eddie Perry

In reply to Undisclosed #6 | 11/08/16 05:15pm

**** *** ********* **** ***** *** ***** **** *** ******** that *** ** *** *** ** ** *** *** ***** compliant ***** *** ******** ** *** ******* ***** **** ** or ***. *** **** ******* *** ****** ***** ****.

Undisclosed #6

In reply to Eddie Perry | 11/08/16 06:41pm

*** - *********** ******** *****

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R. Cortland Tompkins, PhD

IPConfigure, Inc. | 11/08/16 04:29pm

(**********: * ** ** *********** *** ***********).

*********** ******** *** **** ******** ** ******* ********* ******* ** our ****** ***.

*** *********** ************* ** ** ***** *** ******* ** * private, ******-**** ******* **** ** ***** ** *** ********. **** the *** ****** ****** ****** ** **** ** ****** *** Internet.

****** ******** ** ************ ** ***** ******* ***** **** ****** access ** ******* *** ******* ***** **** ****** ** ******** access ** ****** ********; *** ***** *** ***** **** ** proxied ******* *** ***. ** **** ***, * ******** ******** system **** *** (*** ****** ****** ***) **** ***** ******* direct ** ******** ****** ** *** ********.

** ******* *** ***** **** ***'* ******** (*** ** ****** only * ****** ******* *********, *** *******), ******* *** ** configured ** ***** *** ******** ******* ** *** **** ******* by *** *******. * *** ****** ** * ********* ** -- ***** **** *** * ****** ******* ********* -- ** my ****, *** **** ** *** * **** ** ******* configured.

***** * ******* **** ***** ** **** ** ********* ********* cameras ** ******** ********** ********, *******'* ******** ***** **** ** overreaction. ** **** ** *** ******** ************ ****** **, * clearly ******* *** ** *********** **** ********* ** ********* ***** should ** **********.

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Marty Calhoun

IPVMU Certified | In reply to R. Cortland Tompkins, PhD | 11/08/16 08:22pm

***** *** ** *********

Undisclosed Manufacturer #17

In reply to Marty Calhoun | 11/08/16 10:58pm

* **. ********

Undisclosed #6

In reply to Undisclosed Manufacturer #17 | 11/09/16 12:59am

** ******* *******

Undisclosed #6

11/08/16 04:29pm

** ** ******** ***** *********** ** ******* ** *** *****?

Undisclosed Integrator #12

11/08/16 04:29pm

* ***'* ********** "* ********* ***** ******* *******"... ? ******, I ** *** ***** ********* (**** ***'* ******** - ***!). China ** * ********* *******, ****'* *** ********** - ******** of *** **********? ******* * ***'* **** **** ********* ** or ******* ***** ** *** * ********* *****...

** ************* ** ***** *** * ****** ** ********* ** incorporating ********** **** **** *** **** ******* *** **** ** more ** * *** ** **** ******* ********** *** ***** (my *******).

** **** **** *** ********, ** ******* ***** **** ******* of ****** **** ***** ** **** ****** ******** ** *********? I ***** **** ****** **** ***** ******** **** * ********** owned ************ *** * ******* ******* ** ***** **** *** marketing *******. ****, ** *** ******* ***** **, *** *** - **** *** **** ***** ******** ** ***.

Robert Shih

SavvyTech Security | In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #12 | 11/08/16 04:36pm

*****'* ********** ** * ****** ***** ************. ** *** ** economically, ***** ****'* **** *********/********* ** * **** **** ***. In ****, *****'* **** ********** ** *** ********** ***** **** in *** ***.

*******, ***** ** *** ****** **** *** ********** *** **** enterprises ** ***** ***. **** *** ********** ***** *** ******* privately *****, *** *) *** ********** *** **** *********** *** B) *** ********** ***** ********** **** ** *** ****, ** so **** ** ****** *********.

Undisclosed #14

11/08/16 06:31pm

** *******, * **** *** *** ****** ********. ********* *** Genetec *** **** ********* ******** *** *** *** ************ *** cyber ******** **** ** ******. *** ** **** ** **** and ***, ***** ******* * ****** **** *** *** *** what ** ** **** *****. **** ** *** ******* ****** becomes *******, ***'* **** *** **** **** ****. **** ********* at *** **** ** ** ***** **** ******* **** *** secure ******* ** ** * *****. *** ***** ***** **** it *** ** *** ** *** ****** ****** ** *** the ******* ******* ** *** ******** ****** (*** ********). ******* should **** **** **** ***** ******** ********, **** **** *** risk ** ********* **** ******** ****** ** ******* ****** ******** devices ** *** **** ********* ********* ** ****** ** ******* within **** *&* ******** ***** ***. *** **** ** ***** cyber ******** ** *** ******, ** * ****** ********, *** does *** ****** **** *** ***** * ********* ******?

*** ******** ****** ** ***** ***********(***** ***** *********) ** **** at ***** **** *** ***** ******* **, ***** **** *** ratified **** * ********* ********** ** ********* ****. **** **** follow *** **** **** ***. ******* **** **** ***** **** cyber ********* ***** *** ****** *** *** ******** ********(***?).

************* ***** ********, ******** ******* ****. ******* ** ****.

** *********, * **** *** *** ****** ********.....

Undisclosed #6

11/08/16 07:21pm

****'* ** *** ********** ********* ****?

******, ***** *** **** ** *** **********?

Undisclosed Manufacturer #3

In reply to Undisclosed #6 | 11/08/16 07:28pm

...******* ******* ** **** ** ***** ****** ******* *** * clenched ****

Undisclosed Integrator #15

In reply to Undisclosed Manufacturer #3 | 11/08/16 07:59pm

****** ** **** *****....

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Jon Dillabaugh

Pro Focus LLC | In reply to Undisclosed #6 | 11/09/16 12:25am

******* ** *** *****, ********** ********* *******. ***

Undisclosed #6

In reply to Jon Dillabaugh | 11/09/16 01:14am

******* ** *** *****, ********** ********* *******.

**** *** ***.

****'* *** ******** **** *** ***-**-***-****** ***** **** ****?

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Jon Dillabaugh

Pro Focus LLC | In reply to Undisclosed #6 | 11/09/16 01:43am

***** **** ******** ******** ** *** **** ** **, *** you ******* **** ** ****** ** ***.

* ***'* ****** ******* *** ******* ***** *******, ** ** really *****'* ****** ** ********.

***** **** ***** ******* ** ** ** *** ******* ** deploy **** (** *** *********) ****. * ****** ****** **** me ** ****** ********* ** *** **** ****.

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Campbell Chang

In reply to Jon Dillabaugh | 11/09/16 10:37am

******** *** ****** ******* ***** *** **** ******* ******* ** the ****** ******* ***** ** **** ** * ******** *** form ****** ***** ***** ******** **** *** *** ****

Undisclosed #6

11/08/16 08:22pm

***** *******'* ******* ********** ** * *****?

*********.

********* **** ******* *** ***** ******* (***** ******* ********* ** 'vanishingly *****')

'*********** *****' ******* **** *** *** **** ***** *** ******* smaller *** *** ****. *** ***, ** *** ********, *** been ******* ******* *** ********* ******* ** ********** ******* *** features.

*** **** ** ******* ***** **** **** **** * ***** ago ** ******* **** *****.

Undisclosed End User #16

11/08/16 08:34pm

****'* ** **** *** ******* ********** **** ********** ***** "***** security *****", **** *** ******** ** ******** **** ** *** every **** ***** ************ ** *****. ********** *'* "*********** *****" as * *** ******** ****** *** ** ** *** ******* of ********** **+ ********* ***** *** ****** ***** **** ****** dome ******* *** *** **** ******* **** *** **** *'** seen ** *** ****** (***** ***** **** **** $***). *'* not ******** **** *********'* $*** ******* *** * *** **** you **** ********** **** ***** ****** *** ******* ***** ** against ******** ** *** ******. **'* *** ******* ********* **** you ***** *** * ******* *** $** ****...**** * ****...

******** ** *** *'* *** ****** ** *******'* ******** ********* and **** ** ********** ********* *** ********* ** **** ** 300+ (** *** *** ***% ******) ****** ****** *********. **** paranoia ***** ** ** *******.

Undisclosed End User #9

In reply to Undisclosed End User #16 | 11/08/16 08:41pm

****! * ******* *****.

$*** ********* **** *** ***** ** ***** ***** **** ***'*, supply *******, ***.

Undisclosed Integrator #15

In reply to Undisclosed End User #9 | 11/08/16 09:04pm

****: ** *** ****** *** ******* ** **** ********* *******, would ** ** *******...

*. ...*** ***'* ***** ********* ******* *** **** * ********* government ******** ** ********* *******?

*. ...*** ***'* ******* ********* ******* **** ******** ********?

*. ... *** ***'* **** **** ****** ******* *** **** you *** **** ****?

*. ...*** ***'* **** **** ****** ** **** *** ***** all *** **** ****** *** **** ***** *** *** **** Marty & ***? [****** ***** *** *****]

*. ...**'* **** **** *** ** *** ***** ******** ******* on **** **** *****?

Undisclosed End User #9

In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #15 | 11/08/16 09:30pm

** ***** ********* ***'* ********* ** **** ********* ***** ****** and ******* ********. ***** ******** *** ****** **.

Undisclosed #14

In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #15 | 11/08/16 09:44pm

*. ...*** ***'* **** ******** ******* **** ******** ****** **** your ***** *********** *** **** ******** *** ****** * ***** price ** *** ** **** ********'* ************** ***** ** ********'* metrics ** **** ******.

*. ...*** ***'* **** ** ******* **** ************ *** *********** on ***** ******** ********* *** ******** ******** ** * *****.

*. ...** *** **** *****!

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Marty Calhoun

IPVMU Certified | In reply to Undisclosed End User #16 | 11/09/16 03:24pm

**** **** ** *** ****-**** ***** ********* *** **** *** of **** **** *** **** ******* *** * ***** ***** VMS *** **** ********* **** ** **** *** **** *** of ****....

Undisclosed Integrator #23

In reply to Marty Calhoun | 11/09/16 03:29pm

*** ********** ******* ******* ****** ******** *** **** ****** ********

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Marty Calhoun

IPVMU Certified | In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #23 | 11/10/16 12:11am

**** ****** ********** ******* ******* *** ** *******

Michael Miller

In reply to Marty Calhoun | 11/09/16 04:11pm

***'* **** ** **** *** *** *** ***** ** ****** IVMS-5200 **** ******** ***** ****** ******.

Undisclosed Integrator #15

In reply to Michael Miller | 11/09/16 04:39pm

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Marty Calhoun

IPVMU Certified | In reply to Michael Miller | 11/10/16 12:12am

* **** ** *******, ** ***** ******** **** **** ********* may **** **** ******* *******.

John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Marty Calhoun | 11/10/16 01:53am

* **** ** *******, ** ***** ******** **** **** ********* may **** **** ******* *******.

*****, ***** ** ****, ********* ****** *,***+***:

** *** *** ** ****, ********* *** ** *&* **** of *,*** *********

**** ****, ***** ******** ***** ** *** * ************ ****** metric **** ** ***** ** ******** *********** ***********.

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Marty Calhoun

IPVMU Certified | In reply to John Honovich | 11/12/16 12:30am
*** *** ******** **** *** **** *** **** ******** ** each ** *** (*,***) ********* ** *****?

John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Marty Calhoun | 11/12/16 01:01am

*** *** ******** **** *** **** *** **** ******** ** each ** *** (*,***) ********* ** *****?

*****, *** **** ****, * **** **** ********* ********* * legion ** ********* ** ******* *** ****. **** **** ******** here, *** *** ****** *************** *** ********** *** ************** ** Genetec ******** ******, ********* *********, ***.

*** ********, **** ** **** **, ******** *** ******** **** scratch ** **** **** *** **** ********* ** ** *** cannot ** ****** ** ****** ******** * **** ** ********* at **.

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Murat Altuev

AxxonSoft | In reply to John Honovich | 11/12/16 06:26am

********* ** **** **** ******* **** *** **** ******* *** experience ** ******** ***********. ** ***** ****** **** *** **** of ********, ********* ******** ******* *** *** ********. **** ***'* want ** ********* **** **** ******** ******** ** *****, ******* they ******* **** ***** ******** ** *** ****. **** ********** that ******** ** ********* *** ** ************* ********** ** ****** they **** ****** ******** (*** **** ** * ****** *** Genetec). *** ***** ** **** **** ***** **** ** **** hard ** **** ***** ******** ********** ******* *****. **** *********** to *** ****'* ****** ***** ******* ***** ** ***'* ********.

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Luis Carmona

IPVMU Certified | In reply to Murat Altuev | 11/14/16 02:48pm

"**** ***'* **** ** ********* **** **** ******** ******** ** China, ******* **** ******* **** ***** ******** ** *** ****. "

**** ***** *** ***** ****** (** ****) **** *** *** best. *** *** **** *********** ** **** ****** ****? *********, how **** *** *** ****** ********* **** ** *****- ******* how **** *** ***** *** *** *** **** ****, ******** and *******?

(-******......... **** **, **** ** **** ** ******'* *******......;)

Undisclosed Distributor #18

11/08/16 11:26pm

***** ** *** ****** ** **** ****?

John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Undisclosed Distributor #18 | 11/08/16 11:50pm

***** ** *** ****** ** **** ****?

** ******, ** *** **** * ***** ******* ** ******** announcement? ***** ** ****, ** ** *********.

******* ********* ** ** ***** *** ***** **** ****, ***-******* people **** **, ** ******* *** ** *******, *** ******* and *** *** ****.

Undisclosed End User #9

In reply to John Honovich | 11/08/16 11:53pm

****** **** ****** **** * ******* ***** *******.

Undisclosed End User #9

11/08/16 11:35pm

********* ****** *** *******.

John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Undisclosed End User #9 | 11/08/16 11:53pm

********* ****** *** *******.

***, **** ***** **** *** ******* ** *** **** '******* ********'.

***** *** ** ******* ***** ** ***** **** **** ********* tried ** *** **** ******* *** *********. * ** ****** sure ** ***** *** ** *** *** ** ****.

** *** ******* *****, * ***** *** ** ********* ** Hikvision **** * ***** ************* ***********, ****** * ***** ** stunned ** ** *** *******...

Undisclosed Integrator #2

In reply to John Honovich | 11/09/16 12:50am

** **** **** **** * ******* ***. **** *** ** silence * ****** *** *** **** *** **** ********** ********. From **** * ** ******* ** ******* * ** ********* they *** *** **** ********* ** ** ******. ** ** is, * *** *** **** **** **** ******* ******* ** Target ******.

Undisclosed #6

11/09/16 04:05am

*** ******* ********* ** ***** (****** ** ***** *** ******) allowed ** *** ********* ******* ******* ***********?

**** ***** ***** ***** ** ****?

** ***** ** *********** ** *** * ******* ****** ** this ********.

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Andrew Elvish

In reply to Undisclosed #6 | 11/09/16 04:14am

**** ** * ****** ********, *** **** ** ******* ************ throughout *** ** *** *******.

****** ******
**** *********, ********* & ******* **********
******* ***.

Undisclosed #6

In reply to Andrew Elvish | 11/09/16 05:22am

****** ******!

* ****** ** ******-** *********:

*** *** **** ** * ******** ******** ** *** **** the *** ******* ********* **** **** *** ******?

**** **** ******** ** ******** ************?

** *** *** **** **** ** ********* ******** ***** ******** to ***** ************* ** *** **** ******?

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Geoff Gritton

11/09/16 09:51am

**...**...**... ******* ***'* ****'***** *********... ** ** ** **** ** long ** *** *** **** *** **** **** ******...** **** never ** * ******* ******* ****.....

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Ricardo Souza

IndigoVision Ltd | IPVMU Certified | 11/09/16 11:09am

********* * **** *********** **** ** ** ** **** ********…

*’** ********* ****** ** ******** ***** *** *’* **** ******* now **** **** ***** ** *********.

** ***** ***** ** * ****** ********** ******* ********* *** deep **** **** **********. ********* *****, ******* ** *** **** growing *** **** ***** ****** *** ** *** *********.

**** ** **** *** **** ******* ** *** ******* ******** we *** ********* ** *** ** ***** ****** ** *** shadows.

* ** ********* ******* *** ********* ** **** *** ****** and ** *** ****

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Undisclosed

11/09/16 02:04pm

* *** **** ****** ** ** * *** * ***** review ** **** ******* *** ******** - *** ** ***** a **** ** *******'* ****** ************ ** ** ** ****** within *** *******?

John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Undisclosed | 11/09/16 02:14pm

*** ** ***** * **** ** *******'* ****** ************ ** is ** ****** ****** *** *******?

***** ** ** ******* ***** *******. ** *** ********* ** one ** ***** ******* ****** **** **** *** **** ***-******* people ****** ** **** **.

** *** *** ******* *** ********* ********, ****** *** **** that ** ***** **** *******, ********* ** ******* ***********'* ********* ****** **** ***.

Undisclosed Integrator #25

11/09/16 10:37pm

[**** ****: **** ** * ****** **** ********* ****** ** a ****** *** ******** **]

** **** ***** **** ******* ** *** ********* * ******* license / ****** *** ********* ***** ********* *******. **** ** an *********** ******** *** ***********, ***-***** *** ******* ******. ******* has *** ******** *** ******** **** **** ******** ** ***** on ******* **********. ** ******* ** ** *********** ********* *** designed ** ********** ********* *********** ***** *********’* ******** ** *************. Hikvision, ** ******, ******* ********* ** ********* ***** ********** *** great ******* ** ***, *** ****** ********.

********* ** ***** ** ** * *****-************* ******* **** ****** partners ** *** ****** ******, *** **’** ***** ** *** outstanding **** **** ** *** ****** ****** *** ******.

** * ******, ********** ****** ******* **** * ******* *** of ******* *** ****** ******, ** ******* ** *** ********* interest ** *** ************ *** ***** ** *** **** ** the ********* *** ******* ***** ** ** ********.

************* ** * ***** ******* *** *** ******** ******** *************. At *********, ******** *** ******* ******** ****** ** ************* ** a *** ******** *** ** *** ***** ** *** ********-******* cybersecurity *********, ***** *******:

  • * ******* **** ***** ** ********* ************, *** ******* *** Information ******** *** **** *********’* ******** *********, ********** ******** *********** and *******, *** ********** ** ******** ******.
  • *** ********* ******** ******** ****** (****) ** *******, ******* *** report *** *** *** ********-******* *************** **** * ************ ******** emergency ******** *********.
  • ********* ******** *** ***/*** ***** ************* **** ****.
  • ********* ******** **** ******* ******** ******** **** *** ********* ********* such ** ****** ** ******* ******* *********** ***** *** ************* assessments ** *** ********.
  • ** ******** ** **** ***** ** ******* *** ********, ********* having **** ****** ** ******* *****-***** ************* ***** ** ******** any ********* ******** *****.

**** ** * **** ** *** ********* ******** ******, ***** has * ****** ** *********.****://***.*********.***/**/***********.****.

********* ************ ********** ******** *** ** ********* ** ******** *********** value ** *** ********. ** ** *** ****** ** ********** competitive ******** *** ******* *** ** *** *********** ** *** video ************ ********.

** *********, ** ******* **** **’** *** ******** ** ******* products **** ********* ******, ******** *** ****** *** ****** ********* and ******* ********. ** **** ******* **** *** **** ********** emerges **** *** *********** *****, *** *** ************* **, **** different ***** ************ *********.

** *** **** *** ********* ***** *********’* ************* ********* *** the ********* ** **** ********* ** *** ******** *** *** security ******** ** *******, ****** ******* ** ** ** *** arrange * **** ** ****.


*********,

********* *** ***.
********* ****** ***.

Eddie Perry

In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #25 | 11/10/16 02:05am

**** ***-*** *******# ************** **** ****** **** **** **********:

*) ******* ** ****** **** **** *** *** ** ** a **** ********* ** ** ***** **** * ***** ***** decision, **** ** ** *** **** **** ******* **** ******.

*) **** *** **** **** ** ********** ** ****:

********* ** ***** ** ** * *****-************* ******* **** ****** partners ** *** ****** ******, *** **’** ***** ** *** outstanding **** **** ** *** ****** ****** *** ******.

** * ******, ********** ****** ******* **** * ******* *** of ******* *** ****** ******, ** ******* ** *** ********* interest ** *** ************ *** ***** ** *** **** ** the ********* *** ******* ***** ** ** ********.

********* ** * "***** *****" ********** ******, *** **** *****

****://***.*******.***/****/**/**/*****/****/*****-***-*****-*****-***********.****?**=*

*** **** ****, *****’* *** ****** **** ***** ** *** chiefs ** *** *******’* ******* ********* **** ***** ** **** one **** *** *******. ** ** ******* ******* **** ***** on *******, *********** **************** **** *** ******* ********* ***** *** *** ******** *** over ***** *********.

**** ** *** ****** *** ***** **** ******** *** **** is **** *** ******* ********** ** ******* *** ***** *** subsidizing **-**% ** **** **** **** ***********. *** **** ***** in *** ******** ** *** ** *** ***** **** ******** to *** ********* ***** **** ** * ******* ********** ****.

*) ** *** ******* ********** ****'* *********** **** ****** *** recording ****** ********* ******'* ** ** *** ***** ** **** mentioned **** ** *** ***** ** **** **** ** *** "we *** ********** *** *** ***** ***** ***********" *** **** it. *** *** *** **** ****** *** ** *** *** elected ******* *** ***** ** *** ******* *** *** ***** for ******** **** *****. **** ** ****** ** ** **** be **** ** *** ***** ****** *** **** *** ********** work..

****** **** ** *** **** **** ******* ********** *** ***, You *** ******* ***** ********* ** ****** ** ******* *** camera ******, *** ** *** ******* ***** **** *** **** sold ***** **** ******* ** * ****** ****

Undisclosed Manufacturer #26

11/10/16 02:43pm

**** ** *** ** * *** ** **********'* *** ******* anonymous ******* ***** ********* ***** ***** ** *** ******* **********.

John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Undisclosed Manufacturer #26 | 11/10/16 02:47pm

#**, ******.

**** *** *** '********* ******', ** **** * ********, **** mail ******? *** *** ** *** **** *** ************ ****? Is **** ** ********?

Undisclosed Manufacturer #26

In reply to John Honovich | 11/10/16 02:51pm

****, **** *** * ******** **** **** * **** ************ company ******* ** **. * ******* *** **** **** *** privacy *******.

*** **** * *** ****** * **** * ******** ****** in *** ****, * **** **** ***** *** **** **** other ********* ******** ** *** ******* ** **** ** **.

Frantz Mathias

11/10/16 08:08pm

***** * ** *** * *** ** *** ******* ******* on ***** ****** (*********), * ****** **** *** ****** **** than ***** ** **********. ***** ********* ** ********* **** ********** interest ** **** ********* ********** *** ***** **** **** ** the ** *****. *** **** **** *** **** **** ************* unethical ** *** ****** ** *** **********. *** **** *******/********* was * **** ** *** **** **'* **** ******** **** buying ******** **** ****** *** *******. * *** ******* ******** the *** **** *** ****** **** * ******** ******* ********* the ******** ********, * *** ********.. **** *** ** ** the ******* *** ****'** *** ******* ** *************.

*** **** ** ***. ********* ** *** ****** *** ******** small ****** *** *** ************ ** ** **** ** ******** and *** *** ***** *** ******. * *** *** ***** VMS ********* ****** * **** ** *** **** ****.

*** ***** *** **** ** **** ** *** ****** ** Genetech , ***** ****** ***** ********** ** * *******-**** ********, viewing ** ******* *******-**** ********, ********* ******* *******-**** ********* *** later ********** ** ** *** ******** ******* *******-**** **** ******* or ** ***** *******-**** *** ********-******* *********** *** *** **** going ******* *******-**** **** *******....

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Campbell Chang

In reply to Frantz Mathias | 11/10/16 10:12pm

"* ****** **** *** ****** **** **** ***** ** **********"

********** ***** **** *** ******. ***, *** ***** ** ***, earnestness ** **** ******* ********** * ***** **** * *** beyond **** ***** ******** ** ******** *** * ***** ** such. **'* * *** **** ** **** ***** *** *********** of **** ****, *** *'* ******* ** *** **** ** the ***** ****** ***** ** **** ** *** *** ******** market.

*** ***** *** **** ** **** ** *** ****** ** Genetech

* ***'* ***** ***** ** *** ***** ** **** ********. It's * ********* **** ***** * ****** ****** ******* ** security.

Undisclosed Integrator #2

In reply to Campbell Chang | 11/10/16 11:05pm

** ** ******** ** ** * ********* ****. *******, ********* has ***** ****** ** ********** *****: *** ********* *****, ********** ownership, ********** *********, *** ***** ********** *************. **** ** **** makes **** ** **** **** * ********* **** ** ** a ********* ****. **** ** ** **** * ********* ****, is *** ******* ********** ************* ** *********** ************* **** *** goal ** ****** ***** ******* ******** *** *** ****?

John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Frantz Mathias | 11/10/16 10:39pm

*** **** ** ***. ********* ** *** ****** *** ******** small ****** *** *** ************ ** ** **** ** ******** and *** *** ***** *** ******.

******, **** ********.

** *** *** ****, * ********* ***** ***** ****, ********* is ~$* ******* *******, ***+ *******, ***** ** ** *** $150 - *** ******* *****.

*** ** ********* *** ******, *** **** ** ****** ** where ** *** ****** **** ******* **.

  • **% ** *********'* ******* ** **** ****** ** *****. **** move ***** **** ******* ** *****, ****** *** *** **** that ******* ******* *** ** ****** *** ***** **** / government ******** (*** ****'* *** *** ** *******'* ******** ******* quality *** *** ***** **** ********)
  • ** ***** ******* *** ****, ***** ******* **** **** ** its ********, **** ** *******'* ******* ***** **** ***** *** users ***** **** ** *********'* ******* ** ****** **** ******* ones.
  • ***** * ***** **** ***** ** **** ** *********'* **** into *** **********. ** ********* *** ** ********** *****, **** Genetec **** *** * ***** *****. *** ******* *** **********, in *** ****, ** **** ****** / ********* **** **** Hikvision *** **** ** ****.

**** *******'* ***********, ** ****, *** **** ** *** ** 'odd'.

***** ********* ** ********* **** ********** ******** ** **** ********* throughout *** ***** **** **** ** *** ** *****. *** that **** *** **** **** ************* ********* ** *** ****** of *** **********.

* ***'* ***** **** ******* **** **** ***** ********* ** 'automatically *********' *** ** **** ****** *****, ********** **** **** state ** **** *******'* (******* *** ** ****) ********* ** cyber ****** (*.*. *****). ********, ** ** ******* ************** *** China ***** **** ** **** *** *** ******** ****** *** own ******** ************** ***** *** **'* ********** ***** *******.

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Murat Altuev

AxxonSoft | 11/11/16 09:36am

* ***'* ***** **** ***** *** ********* *******...**** ** *******'* owner **** ** ****** ******** ********* :)

***, ** ******, *** *********, ******* *** ** *** ***** than *** ***** ** **** ******.

** ** ********** *********/***** *******. ******* ** ***** ********** ******* and ******* ** *** **** ****** ***** *** ******.

* ****** *** **** ******: *******'* *** *** ****** ******* higher *****'* ******* *** ****** **** *** ******* *****. **** sell *******, *** *** ***** ***** **** *******. ***'* ****** is **** *** ** ******* **** ****** ******, ** **** want ** ********** **** **** **** ******** ******* *****.

******!

*** **** ** **** *** *********** *******.

**** ******* ******** *** *** **** ***** *****'* ******** *******. Huge ******* ******** ****** ******** ******* ** *** ***** ** cameras, ** ******* ** ***** ** ***** ****.

*********** ** *** **** **** **** **** *** ****** *** in ****. * ******* **** **** :)

******: **** ******* *** **** ***** ** *** *** **********:********** *********/***** ******* *** ******* ** ***** *********

Michael Miller

In reply to Murat Altuev | 11/11/16 01:21pm

***** *** ****** ** ***** *** ********** ***** ****** ******* to ****** ****.

Frantz Mathias

In reply to Michael Miller | 11/11/16 01:53pm

**** * ***** ** *********** ***** ** **** ** *********? Please *** ** **** ***** *** *** *****?

Undisclosed Integrator #27

11/11/16 03:20pm

*** ***** **** *** ** *** *** ************* ******* ** and *** **** ** *** ******** **** ** *** ***** thing. *** **** ***** ** ********* ***** ** **** ********** shut **** *** ********* ** ********* ******** **** *** *.*. That ***** ** * **** ****** ********. ** ** ******* Genetec **** ****** * *** ** ****** ****** ** ****** this ********. *** *******....**** ****!

Undisclosed Integrator #28

11/11/16 07:09pm

* ** ***** ********* *** ******* ***** ** ** ***** are ***** ** *** ***. * **** ****** **** *** cameras *** **** *** *** **** ******* ******** ** ***. 3 ***** ***** *********** *** *** ******* ***** ** (*** directly ** * ***** *** ******** *** *** *******) **** I **** ** ******* **** ******* ** *** ******* *** the ******** **** ** ******* **********. * **** ******* ******* performance ****** ***** **** ****** ** ******* ** ******* ********. Cameras *********, ****** ** *** ******* ********** ** ******* **** were ******* **** **** ***** *******.** * ***** ********* *** in *** ***** ******* *** * *****. **** ** **** for * ***** **** ****** ***.* ***** **** ** * good *********** *** *** ********* ** **** ** **** ********.

Undisclosed Manufacturer #29

In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #28 | 11/11/16 07:21pm

*** ***** *** ******** **** ******* ******** ******** **** *** so ******/**** ** **** ********* **** ***** **** *** ****** into ****?

** *** **** **'* ***** * **** *********.

Frantz Mathias

In reply to Undisclosed Manufacturer #29 | 11/12/16 01:40am

**

  • *** ** ****** **** *** **** ** **-******* **** ***** and *** **** ** ** ****** ** *** *** ***.
  • *** ******* ***'* ***** ** **** *** **** ** *** conversion ** *** *** ********. *** ***'* **** **** *** old ******** *** **** **** ******** ** *** *** ***.
  • ******** *** ********* ** ******* ***** ***** **** ******* * new ***, *** **** ******* *** *********** ****** ********* *** customer **** ****** *** ****.

* *** ** **** ***** ******* **** ***** **** ** difficult ** **** ** ******* ***.

* ***** ******** ** ******** ****** ** * ******. **** kind ** ********* (?) ********* *** *** **** *** **** in **** ************ ************** *****. **** ** **** * ******* to **** * ****** ***** *** ***** ** ***** ******* made ***** ** **** * ******** ******* * ******* *******. They (***) ****** *** *** ** ***** ***** ** **** a ***** ***** ** ***** ** ** **** **** *** routers *** ******** ******** **** *** ** ***** ******* ** not **** ** ***** ...**** *** **** ** ***** ******** with ******** ******** ******* ****** ** ** ***** *******-**** *********, PCs, **** ******* ... *** ******** ** ******* *** ********** Chinese ******* *** **** ** *** ******* **** ********* ** High ****** *** ** ** ******** ..

** **** ** ******* ****** ***** ** ** *** *** in ***** ************ **** * *** ***** *** ********* ******** were **** ****** ( * ** ***** **********) ** **** of ********... **** ****'* **** ********* **** ****** ***** ** 90% ** *** ***** ****** ** ** ** *** ******* in *********** ***.

** ******* ***** **** ********* **** *** ******** *** **% from ***** **** ******* **** *** **** ***** ****** $* Billion **** ********** ****. **** ** ***** ******* ***** *** revenues ** ********.

********* ***' *** *** *** ******* ******* **** **** *** its ***** ***** **** **** *** ******, **** **** ***** and *****.

John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Frantz Mathias | 11/12/16 01:49am

***' *** *** *** ******* ******* **** ****

******, *** *** ********* ***** **** ** '******* *******' ***** its **** ****? ** *** ********* ****** ** ********** **** is ** ******* ***** **. **** ***** ****** ************ *** our ******* ** ****, ** ***** ** *** * ******* of ***-***** ********* (**** ******** ***** *********, **** *** ***** camera *******, ***, ***.). **** ***** ***** ****** **** *** iVMS **** ****?

Rodney Thayer

11/14/16 10:01pm

*** **** *** *** **** ** ***** *******?

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Attila Szucs

11/15/16 07:46am

** ** *********** **** **% ** **** ******* ****** **** Hikvision **** **** ********* **** **** ****.

*: ******* **** ** *** *********** **** *********

*: ******* **** *** * ********* ****** *******

*: ***** *** ********* ** ******* **** ********* *********

*: *** *** ** *** ****** ******* ** ************* ****** than *** ***

** *** **** **** *** ****?

John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Attila Szucs | 11/15/16 10:06am

***** *** ********* ** ******* **** ********* *********

**. ** *** ** '********', *** ***** **** ** *** the **** *************** ** ***** ********** ********/ *********, *.*., **** ****, ***** ****, *******, ****, **********, etc.

******* ** ****** **** ** * ******* *** ******* ********, with ***** *** *****, ****** *** **** *** ** ***, internally *********. *** **** *****, **** ** ******** *** ********** but *** **** *********, ******* ** *** ** *** *** choices ***** **** *** **** *******.

***, ** *** *** ****** ***** ********* **** ****, * suspect ** ** **** ***** *** ********* ****** **** ****** sales **** *******, *.*., ******* ** ******* *** * ******** message ***** ********* **** ***** **** ***** *****.

**** ****, ** * **** ***** ** ***** ****** ** this ******, ******* ********** *** ****, ********** ** ********* ********* to **** ** ******. ********* ***** **** **** **** ********* for ******* ** **** ********.

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Attila Szucs

In reply to John Honovich | 11/15/16 10:22am

****, * ***** **** *** ** **** ******, *** ** above.

**** *** **********. ****** *** **********.

******* ******* *** **** "*******" ** ** ****** ***** ****, "people" ** **** ***** ***** *** ********** ********* ** * PRO ************, ** *** ******* ** ****. *** ** ***** inappropiate.

John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Attila Szucs | 11/15/16 10:38am

******* ******* *** **** "*******" ** ** ****** ***** ****

**. *** ********* **** ***** ** ******* ** *******. ** track ***** ********* ** ***** ***** ** ***** *** **** Genetec / ********* *** ** ** *** *** *% ** all ******.

** *** ****** '*** ********** ********* ** * *** ************', I ** **** ***** *** **** ****** *** *** *** concerned. *** **** ***+ *****, **% ** ******* *** ********* devices *** *************. ****'* ****** ********. * ** ******* **** some ** **** ****** **** ** ****** (*.*., ****** ** the ** *** **** **** ********* **** ****** ** *******).

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Attila Szucs

In reply to John Honovich | 11/15/16 11:22am

***** ****, ** *** * **** ***.

******* *** ****** **, *** ******** ** **** ********* ** this ****, *** **** ********* ****** ******** ***********, * ***** they/we *** *** *** ****** ** *** ****. **** ** the ****** **'* *** ** *** ******* *****.

*** *** ******** ******** ******* ** ** **** **** ** "everyone *****" ********, *** *********** (************* *** ****** ****) *** a ****** ***.

*** ** *** *** **** ***** *****, **** **** ****. I ***'* ****** **** ********* **** ** *** ** *** next **** ******* ** **** *******. **** ***** ** *** first ** **** ***** *** ** ******* ** ****. ******** is ***** ******* ** *** **** **** **** ****. ** impact ** ****. **** ** **** * ****** ** ******* with *** ******* ** **** *** ** ********.

** *** ***** **** ** ****** ** **********, **** ****** also **** *******, ** **** **** ********** *** * *****, and **** *****/**** ** ****, *** ******* *** ****/** **********, etc.

**** ***** *** * *********, **** ****** *** ********* *** manufacturing ** *****, *** ***** ***** ** ** *** ********** chip, ** *** ** ***** ********, ***** *** **** *** camera ********** ** * ****** *******? *** ****** *** *** chips **** ****** ***** ******? ******. ** **** ** ***** can ** "******" ******* **** ******* *******, ** *** ******** networks *** ** ****** ********* ***** **** ****** ****, **'* quiet **** ** ** ** *** **** ****.

**** ** ** *******, *** ***'* **** ***** *** ************* owner **** * *** ******* ** *******.

******** *** ** *** **** ***** *** ******, ***. **'* about *** ******, ******, ********, ******* **********, ******* **********, *** to ******* ***.

Frantz Mathias

In reply to Attila Szucs | 11/15/16 11:44am

******** *** ** *** **** ***** *** ******, ***. **'* about *** ******, ******, ********, ******* **********, ******* **********, *** to ******* ***.

******** ***%. **** *** ****** **** ** ****** *** ** this ************ ******** ***** (******** ** ******), ***** ******** *** no ****** ** ** ************ *** ** ** ******** **** and **** *** ************** **, *** *********** ** ****** *** security ** *** ******** ** ******* ** *** ********. **** can ** **** ** ****** ** *********** ** *** ********** threat *** ******. **** ** ** ****: **** ***** ** cameras ******** ** *** ******* (****** ** ***** **** ** Hik) *** ******** ***** ** ******* ********* *** **** *****, we *** **** **** *** **** *** ******* *** *********** opportunity ** ********* ******** ** *** .. ***** ******** ******* to ***** *** ******** *** ******* *** ******* ** ********* levels. *** * *****, *** **** *** *** ********* ********* are ***** *********** *** *** ***.

John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Attila Szucs | 11/15/16 12:50pm

*** *** ******** ******** ******* ** ** **** **** ** "everyone *****" ********, *** *********** (************* *** ****** ****) *** a ****** ***.

*** **** *** **,*** ***** ** * ****, ***+ ***** on ********, **'* ****** ********* ** ***** * ****** ******** letter, ***. ** **** ** **** *** ******** '****** ***', so ** **.

*** ** *** *** **** ***** *****, **** **** ****. I ***'* ****** **** ********* **** ** *** ** *** next **** ******* ** **** *******.

**** *********'* ******* *** ~$* ******* **** **** #* *****'*, so *** *********'* ******* **** *** **** $* ******* ******* of ****. *** ***** **% ** **** ******* ** **** China, * ***** ****** ** ***** **** ****** *** ** business **** ********* ******* ******* **** **** *** ********.

** ****** ** ****.

****** **** *********'* ******* **** *** **** $* *******, ***** is **** *** *** ******** **** **** *****, **** *** equal ** ******.

*** *** ********** **** ************ **** *******'* ******** **** **** whether ** *** ****** **** ** **** ** **** **** an ****** ***** ******.

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Attila Szucs

In reply to John Honovich | 11/15/16 03:42pm

****? *** **** * ********?

** ** ***** ******** ********. * ****, **** *'* ********* that **% ** ****** ***** ** **** **** ** ******.

*** *** ***** ** *** **** **** *********, *** ***'* talk ***** * **** ***** ***** ****, *** ***'* **** about *** **** ***** ****** **** ** ******* ** ******* due ** ************* ******?

*********** ** *** ** *** **** ********** ******* ** * company.

John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Attila Szucs | 11/15/16 06:01pm

***'* **** ***** *** **** ***** ****** **** ** ******* by ******* *** ** ************* ******?

*********** ** *** ** *** **** ********** ******* ** * company.

******* **** **** ******* ********* *** ****** *** ** ******* government ******* ********. ** ****, **** **** **** '**********' ** their ******** ***** ***** *** *** *** ********* **** ***** surveillance ******** ****** ****** ** ***** ********** ** *** ******* government.

*** *** ***** **** *** ***** ** ***** ** *** they *** *** ********* **** *** '***********' ******.

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Murat Altuev

AxxonSoft | In reply to John Honovich | 11/15/16 06:21pm

****** **** ? ** **** ** ****** *******, **** **** of ******* *** ********* **** ****** *** ****** ** *********'* mother *******.

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Attila Szucs

In reply to John Honovich | 11/15/16 06:57pm

** * *** ****, *** **** *** *** ************ ***** dropping ****,*****,*********, (****** *****), ******** ******* ****** *************, ** *** device ************ ** ***** ******* ** *** ***** ********* ******.

*** *** ***** *'* **** **** **** **** *** *****.

Tye Starr

11/16/16 01:30am

**** **** ******* ********** ******* **** * **** **** *** info **** ******

John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Tye Starr | 11/16/16 02:00am

**** **** ******* ********** ******* **** * **** **** *** info **** ******

***,

******* *** ********** ********* ****, **** ***** ** ** ********* this *** ** ******** ** **** *******.

** *** *********** **** ****** ****, * ** *** **** how ******* ** ******** ***** **************. * ********* *** ******* their ***** **************.

John Honovich

IPVM | 11/20/16 01:53pm

****** **** * ******* *****, ** ****** *** *********/****** ******* already ********* ** ******* *******, ** ********** $*** *** ****** for *** ***********:

*** *** **** ***** ***** ******* ** ******** **** ** our ********* ******* **** (***). ******* *** ********** ******* ******* (including ***** ************ ** *****-******** ** ********* *** ******) ** having ********* ***** **** ******* *** ********* ******* ******** ********** in *** *&* **********. *** *********, ***********, ******** *** ********* publications *** ******* ***** ***** **** *******. *** ** *** worried ** ***** **** *******, ***.

******* **** ******** ** ******* ***** *******, *** **** **** along *** ***** *** ***** ** *********** *** ********** **** equipment ** ***-*****.

  • Customers *** ******* *** * ******* ****** ********** **** ******* will need to agree to a waiver when renewing their Genetec Advantage Agreement (there is no additional charge).
  • Customers *** *** ****** * *** ****** (** ****** *** *********** ** ** ******** ******) will need to agree to the waiver, and purchase the special connection license at a fee of 250$ USD MSRP per connection in addition to the usual connection fee.

Undisclosed #6

In reply to John Honovich | 11/20/16 03:42pm

*** *** ********* *** ******** **** **** ***** *********** ***** be *********, **** **** ********* ****?

Undisclosed #6

In reply to John Honovich | 11/20/16 09:47pm

$*** *** **** *** ********* ****** ***** ** * ******* system, **** *** ***** ** ** ******* *********** *** *******?

*,*** ******* = * ******* *******.

**********, ********* ******* ** ******* *** *** ** ****** *** most ****** *********** *** ******* ** *** ***** ****** ************.

John Honovich

IPVM | 12/07/16 06:55pm

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Jon Dillabaugh

Pro Focus LLC | In reply to John Honovich | 12/07/16 06:57pm

***** ** ******** ** *****, ****, ** **** ***....?

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Michael Miller

In reply to Jon Dillabaugh | 12/07/16 07:02pm

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John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Jon Dillabaugh | 12/07/16 07:03pm

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Jon Dillabaugh

Pro Focus LLC | 12/07/16 07:06pm

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Richard Martinez

12/07/16 09:47pm

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Undisclosed #6

In reply to Richard Martinez | 12/07/16 10:06pm

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*****!!

Richard Martinez

12/07/16 10:47pm

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Undisclosed #6

In reply to Richard Martinez | 12/08/16 12:40am

**** ***** *****...

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Undisclosed #6

12/29/16 09:52am

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Jon Dillabaugh

Pro Focus LLC | 01/24/17 07:38pm

* ****** ** ****** ******** ************ *** ******** ******* **** the ******* *** **** ****** *** **** ****** ******* ******* made ******** ***** ********* *** ** *** ********?

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Lukasz Bucko

02/09/17 04:56pm

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Michael Miller

In reply to Lukasz Bucko | 02/09/17 07:45pm

********* ** "****" ** **** **** *** ******** *****?

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Jon Dillabaugh

Pro Focus LLC | In reply to Michael Miller | 02/09/17 07:49pm

* ***** **** **** **** ** "****" ***** *** ****** is ********** ********, *** ******** ** *** ** ***** ******* is *** **** ****. *** ** **** ** ********* **** DW ******** ** **** ********.

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