*******
*** ******* ***** ***** 2016 *** ********* ************* increasing ***** **** **** competitors, ********* ****** ***** as **** ******** ** Avigilon, ***** ** *******.
******** ***** ** **** a ******** *** ***** to ** ** *** same ********** ************ ******** as ***** *** *******. These ***** **** *** roughly **** *** *** place.
************** ******** *** **** negative ***** *** ******* net ******** *****, **** **** ******** significantly **** ******** ******* than ** ****. **** barely ********** ***** ********* (neither *** ** *******), not * ******** **** for ***** "*********" ********.
******* ** ***** *************, and ******, *****.
Why ********* ** / ***** ****
*** **** ***** ******** is **** ****** * result ** ********* ******* course ****-***** *********** ******** ******** '********'. ** *** **** few *****, ********* *** continued ** ** ********** in ******, ********** *** party ********, ********* ***** free ********* *** ***** new ******** ********. ** contrast, ***** ****, ***** turned ******, ******** **** on ********** ***** *** products,******* (*********) ****'* ******** cameras***** ************** ** ******* and ***** *****. ***********, Tyco's ***** **** ***** surely **** ********* ******* and ******* *** *** overall *****. *******, ** has **** *** **** attractive ** *********** *********** than *********'* *****.
***, **** ****/***** ******** ** ***, ****** *** ******* but *** **** *** how **** ******* ** be ****.
#1 - *********
***** ********* *** ************ ranked ***** *** *** preferred *****, **** **** the ******* ****** ************* more ***** **** *** competitors. ********* **** *** the ***** ***** *** "Worst ***" ***** ***** manufacturers, ******* * **** strong ********** ***** ***********.
** ****** ****** *** provided *** ********** *********. Comments ******** ****** ******* factors **** ** *********, performance, ******** *** ****** support. **** ********* **** Milestone ** ********* ** relatively ****** *** ********, but ** *** ***** hand, ** *** ********* as ************ ******* **** or ********. **** ** not * *** *****, and ***** ******* **** several *** ******* **** integrators **** **** * VMS *******.
- "*********. *** **** **** we **** *** *****. Milestone *** * ***** of ******** *** ***** customer, ***** ********* ****** is **** ***** *** their *** **** ***** product (***+ ** *** for *******) *** ****** to ** **** ******** for **. ** **** build *** *** ***'*."
- "*********. * *** ********* for **** **** ** years, ** *'* **** familiar **** **."
- "*********. **** ***** ****** in ******. **** ** camera ********* **** **** integration"
- "********* - ******* ****, most **********, ***'* **** direct, **** ***"
- "*********-******* **** *** ****** agnostic *** **** *********/*****."
- "********* ******* - ******* difficult ** **** ** with **** **** ***"
- "********* - ***** **** everything *** *** * lot ** ******** **** special ********. ****** ******** to *** *** ****** and ******** *** ********** - ***'* **** ** wait ***** *** ************ "has ********* *** *** technology". *** *** *** not ****** **** * system ** ************ ** cameras."
- "*********. ** *** * great ******* *** *** is ****** ***** *** what ** *** ** for. * **** *** Husky ****** ** ****."
- "********* ******** ** ** just ** **** *** flexible,"
- "********* - ***** ****, easy ** ***, ***** tech *******"
- "*********, **** ** ***, flexible, **** ******* ** supported ******* *** ********** scalable"
- "********* ** ** ******** VMS ******. **** ***** the ****** ************ ******** to *** ****** ******* of ***** ***** *** the **** ****. ***** new ****** ******* ****** allows *** *** **** to *** ********* ** the ********** ****** ** well."
- "*********, ** *** *** most ********* ******* *** have *** ****** ****** out ** *** ********."
- "*********. **** ******** *** scalable"
- "*********. *** ****** ** learn ******* **** * camera ****** ***** *** large ******* ************. **** understood ** ********, **** compatible **** ****** **** every ****** ** ***** at **, ********** **** for *********."
- "*********. ******* ****, **** to *** *** ************, scalable."
- "*'* **** ** *** Milestone ********, *** *** simple **** **** "** just *****." * ***'* think ** **** ** enough, *** ** *** the ********, ** *** the ******** *******, ** is **********, *** ** gets *** ***** ****** of ******* ***** ** any *** ** *****. What **** *** * say?"
- "*********, ******* ** ** open *** ********. ***** is *** ***** **."
- "*********. **** *** ** its *****"
*** ***** ******* ********* was *** **** ************ in *** *******, ****** it ****** ** *********** to **** ** * differentiated ********:
********* ***** *** ***** Servers. *** **** ******** for ********* ** **** it ***** **% ** the ******** ***** *** install **. **'* *** a **************. *******, ** is * ***** ********* and ** **** *** the ******** ** ***. Besides, ** **** *** customer ** *** ******** and *** *********, *** on **** ******* ** have. ** *** *** Servers ******* ** ***** warranty *** **** **** have ***** *** ** down *** **** **** reasonable *******.
********
***** ******** *** **** detractors ** *** ***** VMS ******, ******** ***** outranked ******** ***** ******* 4:1 ***** ***********.
**** ** ***, ************ around ***** ****** *** review, *** * ****** theme ***** *********** **** preferred ***.
- "********. ******* & ****** to ***"
- "** **** ** **** drive ** *****, * still **** ********. *** it's * ****** ****** product, ********* ** **** of *** ********* ****** in *** ********, *** it's ********** *********. ** solves *** ******** **** it ****** ** *****, and **'* **** ** use."
- "********, **** ** *** and *******"
- "******** - ********* *** scrubbing *****, ********* ******* and ***** ******* - Genetec ** **** ** excellent ****** *** ******** is ***** ** ********"
- "********. ** ** **** to **** *** *********** from **** ***** ***********, no *********, *********, *** US ****."
- "******** ******* ******, ** is **** ** *** and **** *****"
- "********. ****** *** **** friendly. ***** *** **************."
- "******** ***. **** ** use *** ****** *** video *******. ** ****** or ********* ***** *** end-user."
- "********. **** ** *** and **********. ****** **** normal ****** ** ******** satisfaction."
- "********. ***** *** *********. Easy *** *** ****** to ***."
- "********. ******** **** ****** than ** **** ** is ********, ****** ** set-up *** **** ***-**** friendly."
- "******** -- ******* ********* for ** *******, ***** video ****** (******** **** good ** ***** ******* of *****) **** *****, good ****** *********, **** exports"
*****
********* ****** **** *********** for ***** **** ********* a **** *******, ****** it ***** ******** ****** ranked ****** ******* ** challenge ******** *** *******. Integrators *** ***** ***** mentioned **** ** ***, and ************ ** *** reasons *** ********** ***'* VMS.
- "*****....**** ** ***."
- "***** *** ** ***** be ***** ******* ** it’s **** ** ***** and **** ** ***. Customers **** ** **** friendly."
- "*********** ** ******* *** easy ** *** ******** is ********."
- "***** *** ** ************* and **** ** ***"
- "*****. ****** ** *** and *******. **** ****."
- "****** ******* - *****. Great *******. ** *****. Customers **** *** ****** and ******* ****. ***** camera *******."
- "*****. ***** ***, ********** cost *** *******, **** integration **** ********* *** access ********* **** ** use."
- "*****, ***** ****** *********** list, **** ***** ******* features ******** *** ** a **** ***** *****."
- "***** **** ** *** up, ******** *********** **** Axis *** *******"
- "*****. **** ** ***, cost, **** ************."
- "*****, *** *** ** it *** **** **** what ** **. *** licensing ** **** **** to ***** *** **********."
- "*****. ***** ***, ********** cost *** *******, **** integration **** ********* *** access ********* **** ** use."
*******
******* ********* ** **** as * ****** ********* VMS, ****** ******** **** selectively **** ******** ** Exacq, *** ********* *** higher-end *******. *******'* ***** feature-set *** ******* ** expand *** ****** *********** was *** **** ****** reason *********** ********* **** VMS.
- "*******. *** **** ******** and ****** *** ****** to **** **** * total ******** **** ****"
- "******* ******** ******. ** gives ** * ****** pane ** ***** *** video, ******, ***, *********, etc. **** *******, ***** partner ******."
- "******* *** ** ************, user ********* *** ******* improvements/enhancements **** *** **** with **** ***."
- "*******. *** ****** ** features *** ******* **** it *** ********** **** everything **** *** ** the *****. * ****** of *** ********* **** have ******** ********** *******. and ************** ** ** far *** **** ****** for ****** **** * security ********** ******."
- "*******. *** *********** ** their *** ********* ***** that ** **** *** concentrate ** ********** * minimum ****** ** *** platforms. ** *** *********** install ***** *** **** large *********** ******* ******** platforms, *** **** ** a **** ********* **** a ********* ******* ***********."
- "*******. *** ***** *** flexibility ***** ** ***** systems."
- "******* ** *** *** of ******. **'* **** suited *** ********** **** systems, ** ****** *********, and ****** **** ** up ** * ****** rate. * **** **** that *** *** ****** from **** ** ******** video *** ** *** same ******."
- "*******, ** ***, *** to ********, *************, **** range ** ********* ******** and ********, **** ** installation *** *************."
- "*******. ********, ********, ********** tech *******. ***'** ***** have ** **** * customer "****'* *** ********"."
- "*******, ****** ******* *** we *** ***** *** clients"
- "******* *** *** ****** features *** ***** *********** to ****** ******* *** other *** ***** *******."
- "******* *** ***** ******** and **** ******** *** live *******"
*********
***** **** ******* ********* almost *********** ****** ** to *** ****** *** small *******. ***** **** is ****** **** *** getting **** ********, ** also ***** **** ********* has *** ******* ** make ****** ******* ** more ******* **********-***** *******,******* ***** ******* ** expand **** **** ********** offerings. *******, *** ******* received ******* **% **** votes *** "*****" **** "Favorite".
- "*** ******* *** ******* NVRs ** *** ********* products. **** *** **** enough *** **** ******* and ***** ** ***** cheap."
- "********* *** *** **** and ** *********"
- "***** ******* - ********* NVR. ***'* **** *** price. ****** *** ** good. ******* *** ** junk."
- "*********, ***** *** ***** & **** ** ***."
- "********* **-******-** (** **** if ******): *****, ****** of ***'*, *** ***** of ******** ** **** pricepoint."
- "********* - ***** *** reliable."
- "*** ****** ******* ** price *** ****** ******** (different **** *********)"
- "********* *** *******, *****, and **** *******"
- "*********. **** ***** *** the *******."
Others - ****, *****, *****, *****, *****, *******, ***** *******
***** *********, ***** *** any ***** *** **** quite ***. ************ ***** comments ****** **** ************ support **** *** **** shown *****. ********** ********* show **** ******** ******* offer ******** ******* *** the **** ****** ************, ranging **** ***-**** ** highly ************ *******, ****** it **** *********** *** other ***** ** **** appreciable ****** ***** **** these **********. ****** *** of *** ***-***** ********* in **** ****'* ****** stumbles *************, ** ***** not ****** * ***** shakeup ** *** **** 2 *****.
Comments (36)
Undisclosed Manufacturer #1
Do these VMSes appear in any order of significance? It starts with #1 Milestone and then ceases assigning value. Is this a descending ranking order based on the results/votes?
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Ross Vander Klok
The fact that Lenel OnGuard did not even make the list speaks volumes to those of us that still use it. Lenel pushing people towards Milestone is the best decision they ever made.
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Undisclosed Manufacturer #2
[Note: Poster is from Genetec]
This is the most telling reason for Milestone getting the most votes in the survey:
The only downside for Milestone is that it seems 90% of the security world can install it. It's not a differentiator.
Different VMS manufacturers took different approaches to building their channels. Milestone signed virtually everyone who would take it on as product line.
By comparison, at Genetec we took the approach of selectively adding partners we know would lead with the VMS and grow it out with the full unified product portfolio. It results in fewer dealers, but with much higher revenues per dealer. Those dealers truly do see our product to be a differentiator
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Undisclosed End User #3
We're a strong advocate of Genetec VMS at the enterprise level, but no doubt, pay a HEAVY premium and use less that 25% of its potential.
Reminds me of the Apple iOS ecosystem, it's fantastic at what it does, but jumping to Android is always in the back of your mind rather than going "all-in" (PACS, PSIM, Intercom and VMS).
Keeping the analogy going, Google's come out with a decent offering now with the Pixel which is head-to-head with iPhone, but offers unlimited storage at a cheaper price and is more open as an ecosystem.
Just as Apple has to keep innovating and breaking ground with tangible, practical "value-add" features to help the end-user justify the added cost or risk loosing market-share in certain segments, so too must Genetec with respect to licensing and cost of ownership.
To me, according to this unscientific survey, looks like that gaps closing.
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Fabian Muyawa
IPVMU Certified | 02/13/18 08:17am
This ranking is good in that it gives an integrator an opportunity to stop for 3 minutes and analyze a VMS's features,capability,stability,reliability,cost,suport etc before recommending it to the client as the best solution.
It might be a reference point to start with anyway.
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Undisclosed Integrator #4
I would be nice to have a single master features list of the VMS brands so you can compare what comes with what as a feature, but I know that would be pretty hard to maintain and it's somewhat subjective how well a "feature" works.
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Fabian Muyawa
IPVMU Certified | 02/15/18 09:24am
I want to believe that Genetec is a Unified solution unlike Exacq, Milestone, Hikvision and Avigilon which are Integrated Solutions. My basic understanding is that a Unified Solution incorporates different systems in one box and Integrated solution interfaces with other systems sitting on different boxes.
I suggest someone may generating some more comprehensive reading on this particular solutions and indicate if there is any single point of failure particularly in Unified solution.
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Undisclosed Integrator #5
The beauty of Genetec is that they are capable of having the redundancy within a single solution. You can configure standby/failover directory servers if you are truly worried about the single point of failure. Another point to consider is that when you use an access control platform like Mercury, they will operate independently if they lose connection with a server. The master controller will take over and ensure the system operates normally.
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Dan Unser
I do not see a lot of information pertaining to GeoVision solutions with their VMS and NVR/DVR software. The software is free to use with their cameras and works with third-party cameras for a licensing fee. We've been using their NVR/DVR hybrid system and functions for our needs.
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Michael Stokes
No mention for Hanua/Samsung. Under the Hanua umbrella lies IP cameras with a one off license payment, QULU SOFTWARE and a good range of quality cameras Samsung NVR’s. All recorders come without a password which must be entered to allow programming. We are a middle of the road CCTV installers for commercial buildings. Wonder if the UK Market is covered by the IPVM Forum
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Undisclosed End User #6
Did Verint and its Nextiva VMS get on the radar? Aside from the survey where volume of end users employing specific systems can be influenced by sales, does IPVM have any comments regarding Verint/Nextiva?
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Cary Menage
Currently, I'm diving deep into Shinobi, liking it, and sensing it may disrupt the VMS world somewhat, similar to what Asterisk did to the the Telephone Key system and voice mail industries...
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Undisclosed Integrator #9
Author does a good job disclosing how products at the top get bad ratings too. A referendum of contractors is dangerous when looking for anything beyond wild opinion. For Milestone and ONSSI, we’ve done both. Milestone is still NetDVMS without centralized management. Integrators are old school and don’t want change- I was in one of the first meetings with ONSSI announcing the move to the See-Tec recorder and it was basically an integrator bitch fest about how their customers couldn’t use the new system. That’s not an integrator- that’s a reseller. ONSSI’s ratings have drastically improved I assume because people learned it and realized how the see-tec recorder is vastly superior to what was used prior. Just look at the positive comments about Milestone “its simple, it’s what we’re used to”. That all fine and good but it doesn’t make it the “best” system, it makes it the system that’s pissed the least amount is “resellers” off.
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