Gas Monkey Garage is local to Dallas. Presumably, ASIS did not have to pay for transportation and hotel, making them the cheapest celebrity they could book. Kudos to ASIS on their thriftiness, I guess.
ASIS Show 2017 Final Report
ASIS is in Dallas for 2017 and this is our final show report (compare to our 2016 ASIS show report).
When walking in, one is greeted with Dahua's advertising:
Fitting, given the big news of the week is Dahua (and their OEMs) recorders hit with global hack attacks.
Our unauthorized and unwanted variation on their marketing campaign:
Dahua's new poorly spun press release [link no longer available] does not help. They should own the problem and communicate clearly the risks so partners are aware and are helped to fix the damage from Dahua shipping defective product with fundamental vulnerabilities. Issuing a firmware fix is the bare minimum that can be done and something that some OEMs are still struggling to get.
Inside we cover:
- Improved show traffic - plus Day 2
- Show floor key points
- On floor training
- New Product Lows
- Weirdest booth
- Hikvision demonstrations
- Genetec Gift Taunts Hikvision
- Genetec Revamping Hardware
- No booth babes
- Unified Panasonic
- Cyber Security Awareness
- Vivotek Centers On Cyberecurity
- Vivotek Dual Imager Camera
- Salient Upcoming New VMS
- Hanwha Launches VMS
- Hanwha Casino
- Hanwha Image Stabilization
- Panasonic Unified
- Convergint Big Presence
- Knightscope Big Booth
- Literally Pushing Robot
- Police-conversion Golf Cart
- Cat Crap
- Pivot3 Tiny Booth
- Avigilon Emphasizing Cloud
- Tiniest Booth
- Panasonic Future Technology Demo
- Panasonic PTZ Stabilizer
- Apple Recruiting
- March Adds AHD, New Enclosure, CNL OEM
- Linear BLE Reader/Mobile Credentials
- Cameras - Many New From Geovision
- Kicked Out By CEO
Full 35 page report inside.
Improved **** *******
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On ***** ********
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Genetec **** ****** ********* *********
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Vivotek ******* ** *************
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Car *******
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Unified *********
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UNV / *** ***
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Teddy **** *****
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Pivot3 ***** *****
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That's who they are...
To clarify, Costar Video hired them, Costar is also local to the Dallas area. A lot of Texas companies. If there was a notable minor theme, that was one, much higher rate of Texas companies exhibiting and correspondingly less sales people / people from the Northeast.
Update: Looks like the Garage Monkey guy got the last laugh here. There was a long line to get a photo with him, see video below:
John,
Good catch on the attendees...
I've been out of the security industry for nearly 10 years and ASIS has changed as to whom attends and from what locations. We found very few SI's stopping by the Turing Video/robot booth from either east or west coasts. That said, overall we rated the show a "B". Which was perfect for us to launch our robot and drone products.
Thomas - TuringVideo
Thomas, good point about SI's. I noticed similarly with less integrators at ASIS, with the exception of larger integrators. Related: Top Trade Shows For Security Integrators
I am confused by the Cat Crap. Aside from being humorous is it a legitimate product? I looked up and saw the company was out of Utah so I assume no mistranslation. Utterly perplexed by their marketing.
Absolutely an outstanding product for use on snowmobile or motorcycle helmet shields, and I won’t leave home without it. I would not, however, recommend it for use on camera optics, as Cat Crap has a tendancy of creating a film which will distort video images, particularly noticeable on high resolution cameras 2MP and up. But friend, when it comes to its anti-fogging properties on helmet shields, Cat Crap is the cat’s ass!
I would also mention that the founders of Utah-based Cat Crap are Arctic Cat fanatics, Arctic Cat being one of the four snowmobile manufacturers out there, and an OEM for Yamaha. It’s a clever marketing stunt for sure.
Dahua PR person thanks for us for the 'advertising':
Dahua is one amazing company...
And thanks Dahua for the marketing of the even larger Hanwha banner in the background!
Is this the ISO symbol for "Untrusted Network"?
or the guy from Spy vs. Spy with a parachute?
Note: added images and short commentary on Anixter, Avigilon, Bosch and Hikvision to post.
Expect next update Wednesday early evening.
The Apple booth has to be in contention for strangest booth. People were lining up to talk to a couple of Apple employees behind a table. There was an iPad on the table, the table was a trade show table not a cool Apple store table. Does anyone have any idea why they are there?
Karas went to the Apple booth and they said it was for employee recruitment, specifically for investigators if I recall him correctly. Despite the booth being strange and unadorned, lots of people were going up simply because it was Apple, he noted.
Our booth was just around the corner from them. We looked under their table after the show closed and they left all the product brochures they had brought.
They were about recruiting for corporate attorneys... Oops, wrong show. LOL
How's the floor looks today?
Thanks for all the pictures on Hik-Central.....
There’s still 3 hours tomorrow, maybe if you call your friends at HIK they will run John through a full demo.
Just wait until it shows up on Shodan.io and see for yourself.
Any exhibitors feedback?
We are going to do a survey on Thursday and publish the results on Friday about manufacturer feedback on the show. This will provide a broader picture of manufacturer experience.
That would be great but i think being undisclosed here will make people more honest about how the show really went other than admitting to you it didn't go well.
Disagree. Hearing from a handful of random people is less accurate than getting 100 or so people to vote and explain.
I am also not sure why you believe that people will pretend the show went better than it did because for the last few years, manufacturers in our survey ripped ASIS apart, e.g. Weak ASIS 2016 Upsets Manufacturers
I agree statistics is a powerful tool and probably an anonymous pole would be the best.
Probably survey of scan numbers will be the only hard number you can compare about how good or bad was it, everything else it subjective.
I believe that you need to take it with grain of salt since it projects badly on them so if they say it was bad probably it was very bad.
Below is a video of interacting with the Knightscope robot. Key findings - the robot is quite good at stopping quickly and avoiding people but the robot is programmed to be very cautious so anytime it detects a person close to it, it stops and waits a few seconds and can be easily and effectively blocked. That is good for avoiding crashes but it undermines its overall usefulness (vs a human being who could better navigate around people):
It would be hysterical if you made a comparison video with a unsuspecting human guard :)
After John’s interaction with the CEO we know that he is know by knightscope leadership, we also know the robots do not have facial recognition because they surely may have programmed some interesting features when John approached their bot at the show. <smile>
Maybe it's just me, but that Teddy Bear booth looks a bit creepy...
I loved the anti-drone guys being right next to the drone companies. One of them even told me that the drone maker was a reseller for the anti-drone stuff, my head nearly exploded.
I know Hikvision has both drones and anti-drone products! You can find those on their machine vision pages.
"They [Dahua] should own the problem and communicate clearly the risks so partners are aware..."
Don't underestimate ignorance, willful or otherwise. Average consumers dont read about such issues unless its Target or Experian. Even the supposedly cyber aware IT community, many seem overly focused on computers and routers, but don't seem to give cameras or NVRs a second thought, unless you effectively bring it up. And if end users aren't concerned enough, there are plenty dealers willing to push the products.
Good morning from Panama,in our opinion, the new trend for this kind of shows, forums, would be more regional, like, one for central america and the caribbean, other for north america, mexico, canada, USA, less costs, more time for the guest to be in every presentation, stand, better planning for logistic, economies of scale, more oriented to the real needs, budgets, technology of each area
Any more info on the "Liner" :) BLE Reader?, seams to be nothing on their website:
https://www.linearproaccess.com/
Thanks for catching that, typo fixed.
We're reaching out for more details to Nortek on the BLE Reader for a post. We'll have more on it coming up.
All in fun Brian. Another note, when I called Nortek, they know nothing about this. I emailed a regional rep, I'll report back when I hear back (Company Internets just went down! :( )
For those that attended the show (I did not) - were there any products that jumped out and new technologies that we should be aware of beyond what was covered here?
Nothing really earth shattering, but the autonomous stuff (ground based) is starting to get to the point that I can start thinking about putting it to use in the real world.
Scott, which autonomous options are you considering? Curious to hear which ones you think have the most potential.
We have been talking about this for quite some time, right now Turing seems to make the most sense for our purposes. The Knightscope aesthetics would never work for us and the Cobalt guys want to use their own team to monitor and dispatch response. That is another non-starter around here.
I spent quite a while talking to Mr. Stoker before and after the show. The only issue we have is dealing with multi-level facilities. If that thing had an arm to hit elevator call buttons we could make better use of it.
We are still in the "talk it thru" phase, but a demo seems to be the next logical step so we can identify the real limitations and advantages over what we have in place now.
As a rep on the show floor, I did hear from integrators expressing more interest in products that addressed cyber security. It appears that their customers are now starting to bring the topic up more frequently when discussing system designs.
As a more mid-size system integrator, we've been getting more questions from customer's IT departments about what type of encryption and security the systems have. I've been trying to sound this alarm to our product manufacturers, and they come back with hesitant promises that they are working on it. Like IP technology, they'll probably be dragged kicking and screaming into 21st century cyber-security.