Our unauthorized and unwanted variation on their marketing campaign:
Dahua's new poorly spun press release [link no longer available] does not help. They should own the problem and communicate clearly the risks so partners are aware and are helped to fix the damage from Dahua shipping defective product with fundamental vulnerabilities. Issuing a firmware fix is the bare minimum that can be done and something that some OEMs are still struggling to get.
Inside we cover:
Improved show traffic - plus Day 2
Show floor key points
On floor training
New Product Lows
Weirdest booth
Hikvision demonstrations
Genetec Gift Taunts Hikvision
Genetec Revamping Hardware
No booth babes
Unified Panasonic
Cyber Security Awareness
Vivotek Centers On Cyberecurity
Vivotek Dual Imager Camera
Salient Upcoming New VMS
Hanwha Launches VMS
Hanwha Casino
Hanwha Image Stabilization
Panasonic Unified
Convergint Big Presence
Knightscope Big Booth
Literally Pushing Robot
Police-conversion Golf Cart
Cat Crap
Pivot3 Tiny Booth
Avigilon Emphasizing Cloud
Tiniest Booth
Panasonic Future Technology Demo
Panasonic PTZ Stabilizer
Apple Recruiting
March Adds AHD, New Enclosure, CNL OEM
Linear BLE Reader/Mobile Credentials
Cameras - Many New From Geovision
Kicked Out By CEO
Full 35 page report inside.
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Gas Monkey Garage is local to Dallas. Presumably, ASIS did not have to pay for transportation and hotel, making them the cheapest celebrity they could book. Kudos to ASIS on their thriftiness, I guess.
To clarify, Costar Video hired them, Costar is also local to the Dallas area. A lot of Texas companies. If there was a notable minor theme, that was one, much higher rate of Texas companies exhibiting and correspondingly less sales people / people from the Northeast.
I've been out of the security industry for nearly 10 years and ASIS has changed as to whom attends and from what locations. We found very few SI's stopping by the Turing Video/robot booth from either east or west coasts. That said, overall we rated the show a "B". Which was perfect for us to launch our robot and drone products.
Thomas, good point about SI's. I noticed similarly with less integrators at ASIS, with the exception of larger integrators. Related: Top Trade Shows For Security Integrators
I am confused by the Cat Crap. Aside from being humorous is it a legitimate product? I looked up and saw the company was out of Utah so I assume no mistranslation. Utterly perplexed by their marketing.
Absolutely an outstanding product for use on snowmobile or motorcycle helmet shields, and I won’t leave home without it. I would not, however, recommend it for use on camera optics, as Cat Crap has a tendancy of creating a film which will distort video images, particularly noticeable on high resolution cameras 2MP and up. But friend, when it comes to its anti-fogging properties on helmet shields, Cat Crap is the cat’s ass!
I would also mention that the founders of Utah-based Cat Crap are Arctic Cat fanatics, Arctic Cat being one of the four snowmobile manufacturers out there, and an OEM for Yamaha. It’s a clever marketing stunt for sure.
The Apple booth has to be in contention for strangest booth. People were lining up to talk to a couple of Apple employees behind a table. There was an iPad on the table, the table was a trade show table not a cool Apple store table. Does anyone have any idea why they are there?
Karas went to the Apple booth and they said it was for employee recruitment, specifically for investigators if I recall him correctly. Despite the booth being strange and unadorned, lots of people were going up simply because it was Apple, he noted.
Our booth was just around the corner from them. We looked under their table after the show closed and they left all the product brochures they had brought.
They were about recruiting for corporate attorneys... Oops, wrong show. LOL
We are going to do a survey on Thursday and publish the results on Friday about manufacturer feedback on the show. This will provide a broader picture of manufacturer experience.
That would be great but i think being undisclosed here will make people more honest about how the show really went other than admitting to you it didn't go well.
Disagree. Hearing from a handful of random people is less accurate than getting 100 or so people to vote and explain.
I am also not sure why you believe that people will pretend the show went better than it did because for the last few years, manufacturers in our survey ripped ASIS apart, e.g. Weak ASIS 2016 Upsets Manufacturers
Below is a video of interacting with the Knightscope robot. Key findings - the robot is quite good at stopping quickly and avoiding people but the robot is programmed to be very cautious so anytime it detects a person close to it, it stops and waits a few seconds and can be easily and effectively blocked. That is good for avoiding crashes but it undermines its overall usefulness (vs a human being who could better navigate around people):
After John’s interaction with the CEO we know that he is know by knightscope leadership, we also know the robots do not have facial recognition because they surely may have programmed some interesting features when John approached their bot at the show. <smile>
I loved the anti-drone guys being right next to the drone companies. One of them even told me that the drone maker was a reseller for the anti-drone stuff, my head nearly exploded.
"They [Dahua] should own the problem and communicate clearly the risks so partners are aware..."
Don't underestimate ignorance, willful or otherwise. Average consumers dont read about such issues unless its Target or Experian. Even the supposedly cyber aware IT community, many seem overly focused on computers and routers, but don't seem to give cameras or NVRs a second thought, unless you effectively bring it up. And if end users aren't concerned enough, there are plenty dealers willing to push the products.
Good morning from Panama,in our opinion, the new trend for this kind of shows, forums, would be more regional, like, one for central america and the caribbean, other for north america, mexico, canada, USA, less costs, more time for the guest to be in every presentation, stand, better planning for logistic, economies of scale, more oriented to the real needs, budgets, technology of each area
All in fun Brian. Another note, when I called Nortek, they know nothing about this. I emailed a regional rep, I'll report back when I hear back (Company Internets just went down! :( )
For those that attended the show (I did not) - were there any products that jumped out and new technologies that we should be aware of beyond what was covered here?
Nothing really earth shattering, but the autonomous stuff (ground based) is starting to get to the point that I can start thinking about putting it to use in the real world.
We have been talking about this for quite some time, right now Turing seems to make the most sense for our purposes. The Knightscope aesthetics would never work for us and the Cobalt guys want to use their own team to monitor and dispatch response. That is another non-starter around here.
I spent quite a while talking to Mr. Stoker before and after the show. The only issue we have is dealing with multi-level facilities. If that thing had an arm to hit elevator call buttons we could make better use of it.
We are still in the "talk it thru" phase, but a demo seems to be the next logical step so we can identify the real limitations and advantages over what we have in place now.
As a rep on the show floor, I did hear from integrators expressing more interest in products that addressed cyber security. It appears that their customers are now starting to bring the topic up more frequently when discussing system designs.
As a more mid-size system integrator, we've been getting more questions from customer's IT departments about what type of encryption and security the systems have. I've been trying to sound this alarm to our product manufacturers, and they come back with hesitant promises that they are working on it. Like IP technology, they'll probably be dragged kicking and screaming into 21st century cyber-security.
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Ari Erenthal
09/26/17 11:36pm
Gas Monkey Garage is local to Dallas. Presumably, ASIS did not have to pay for transportation and hotel, making them the cheapest celebrity they could book. Kudos to ASIS on their thriftiness, I guess.
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Undisclosed Integrator #1
I am confused by the Cat Crap. Aside from being humorous is it a legitimate product? I looked up and saw the company was out of Utah so I assume no mistranslation. Utterly perplexed by their marketing.
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John Honovich
Dahua PR person thanks for us for the 'advertising':
Dahua is one amazing company...
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Undisclosed #3
Is this the ISO symbol for "Untrusted Network"?
or the guy from Spy vs. Spy with a parachute?
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John Honovich
Note: added images and short commentary on Anixter, Avigilon, Bosch and Hikvision to post.
Expect next update Wednesday early evening.
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Undisclosed Manufacturer #4
The Apple booth has to be in contention for strangest booth. People were lining up to talk to a couple of Apple employees behind a table. There was an iPad on the table, the table was a trade show table not a cool Apple store table. Does anyone have any idea why they are there?
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Dori Ribak
09/27/17 03:23pm
How's the floor looks today?
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Marty Calhoun
Thanks for all the pictures on Hik-Central.....
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Undisclosed Manufacturer #6
Any exhibitors feedback?
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John Honovich
Below is a video of interacting with the Knightscope robot. Key findings - the robot is quite good at stopping quickly and avoiding people but the robot is programmed to be very cautious so anytime it detects a person close to it, it stops and waits a few seconds and can be easily and effectively blocked. That is good for avoiding crashes but it undermines its overall usefulness (vs a human being who could better navigate around people):
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Undisclosed Manufacturer #8
Maybe it's just me, but that Teddy Bear booth looks a bit creepy...
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Scott Napier
I loved the anti-drone guys being right next to the drone companies. One of them even told me that the drone maker was a reseller for the anti-drone stuff, my head nearly exploded.
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Undisclosed Manufacturer #10
"They [Dahua] should own the problem and communicate clearly the risks so partners are aware..."
Don't underestimate ignorance, willful or otherwise. Average consumers dont read about such issues unless its Target or Experian. Even the supposedly cyber aware IT community, many seem overly focused on computers and routers, but don't seem to give cameras or NVRs a second thought, unless you effectively bring it up. And if end users aren't concerned enough, there are plenty dealers willing to push the products.
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Undisclosed Integrator #11
Good morning from Panama,in our opinion, the new trend for this kind of shows, forums, would be more regional, like, one for central america and the caribbean, other for north america, mexico, canada, USA, less costs, more time for the guest to be in every presentation, stand, better planning for logistic, economies of scale, more oriented to the real needs, budgets, technology of each area
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Undisclosed End User #12
Any more info on the "Liner" :) BLE Reader?, seams to be nothing on their website:
https://www.linearproaccess.com/
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Undisclosed End User #14
For those that attended the show (I did not) - were there any products that jumped out and new technologies that we should be aware of beyond what was covered here?
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Undisclosed Manufacturer #15
As a rep on the show floor, I did hear from integrators expressing more interest in products that addressed cyber security. It appears that their customers are now starting to bring the topic up more frequently when discussing system designs.
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