Failing at Marketing, "ALL HIKVISION PRODUCTS" On Sale

Author: John Honovich, Published on Apr 18, 2017

The ballerinas are out.

The price cuts are back.

Hikvision is struggling to build a premium brand (i.e., 'The Art of Video Surveillance') so they have reverted to what has worked best - putting "ALL HIKVISION PRODUCTS" on sale.

In this note, we contrast Hikvision's failing marketing campaign vs the tactic of further across the board price cuts.

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** ****, ********* *** ******** ****** *** ***** ***** ****, a *** ******* *****:

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********* *** **** ****** ****** **** ** ******* ***** ***** perception, ************* **************. **** **** ** '*** *** ** ***** Surveillance', **** ****** **** ** ****** ** *** ******* / ballerinas ***:

** **** **** ** ******* *** ********** ** ********, ***** products **** ************* ********** ***** ******* **** *** ************** ** dance *** ***.

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**** ** ********* **** ** * *** ****** ** *** show:

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Price **** ** ******* ******

******* ****** *** ********* ** ******** *** ***** ** ***** products *** ******* ****** ******. ********, ******* ****** ******, ** ever, ** ****** *** ***** ***** ****.

**** ** *** **** **** **** *** ** ****** *** board **** ** *** ********? *****?

**** ** *** **** **** ******** *** ** ****** *** board **** ** *** ****? *****?

**** ** *** **** **** ****** ****** *** ** ****** the ***** **** ** *** *******? *****?

******, **** ***** **** **** ********* ****, *** ******** ***** damaging, ** **** ****** * **** ** ******* ** ****** for *** ******** ***** *******.

Hikvision's ******* / ******

*** ******* ** *** *******. ******** **** **** ****** ** marketing *** **** ******** ****** ***** ** ****** *** *** truly ******* *********** *** *********, **** ***** ********** *******, **** not **** **** **********.

*** ******* ** ******** * ******* *****. ** ** ********* understandable **** **** **** * ******* ***** (*** ********* **** ** ***** *** #* *****) *** ******** ** ********* (**** ****** ***) ***** *** there. *** ********* ****** *** ***** ***** **** ***** *********** messages *** ******* **** ** ********** / *******.

*** ****** ***** *******. **** ** ********* ****** ******* * premium *****, ***** ******* ********** ********* ****** **** ** ***** spend **** **** ****** ** *************** ****** **** **** *** ***** **********, ********* **** * costly *** *********** ********** *** ** ******** **** ** ***** competitors ***.

Comments (54)

Undisclosed Manufacturer #1

04/19/17 02:37pm

* ***** * ***** **** ** ***** **** **** ******* would ** "*** *** **** *** ***** *********'* ****** '******** our ***** *****' **** ** * ****** ** **** *******, Yes / ** ?"

John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Undisclosed Manufacturer #1 | 04/19/17 02:42pm

****...

**** *** **:

***, ***** *** **** *** ***** **** *** ******** ** their ****** *** ***** ***** *** ******** ******** *** *********. Indeed, **** **** *** ********* ******** ******** ******* ** *** such ** *******.

***** * ** **** **** ******* **** ********** **** ****** this ****'* *****, *** **** **** ****** ** **** **** are ***** ** ***** ***** **** **** ******** ** *** more ***********.

Eddie Perry

In reply to John Honovich | 04/19/17 03:27pm

* ***** ** * **** ****** **** *** ****** ** "sale"

**** ** **** ** *** * *** **** **** ** "Y" ********* ** ** ****

Undisclosed #2

In reply to Eddie Perry | 04/19/17 05:39pm

**** *** ******* ***** ***** *** ****** **** **:

50% *** **********, ********!

John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Undisclosed #2 | 04/19/17 05:44pm

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Undisclosed #2

In reply to John Honovich | 04/19/17 06:20pm

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Undisclosed Integrator #7

In reply to John Honovich | 04/20/17 08:49pm

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Brandon Knutson

04/19/17 02:46pm

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Undisclosed Manufacturer #1

In reply to Brandon Knutson | 04/19/17 02:48pm

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John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Brandon Knutson | 04/19/17 02:49pm

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Brian Karas

IPVM | In reply to John Honovich | 04/19/17 02:58pm

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Undisclosed #3

In reply to Brian Karas | 04/19/17 10:10pm

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Brian Karas

IPVM | In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #3 | 04/19/17 10:28pm

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Marty Calhoun

IPVMU Certified | 04/19/17 05:43pm

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John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Marty Calhoun | 04/19/17 05:53pm

*****,

*****, ******** ** ******* *** ******* ********! **** *** *** at ***? **%? **% *** ****? **** **** *** *** you *** *** ********* ** ******* *** ******* ********* ******* on ** ********** **********!

*** **** ******** ********* ** * ******* ******* *** * follower ** ******

*** ****, **** *** ** * ************* ******** ******. ***** more ** ***** *** ********* **** ***** ***** ******, ****** less **** ***** ***** ******.

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Undisclosed #2

In reply to John Honovich | 04/19/17 09:09pm

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*** ******** ** ******, ** *** ***** **** ** * corner *** ******/***** ******** ** ***, *** ** ** ** you ***** ** ***** ****** *******?

John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Undisclosed #2 | 04/19/17 10:43pm

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**'* * **** ********.

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Undisclosed #2

In reply to John Honovich | 04/20/17 04:03am

(*) *** ***** ** *** ******* ******* ***** ** *********** underwriting **** *** (*) *** ********* *** ******* ********** **** being **** ** ******* ***** ************ ******* ** ******* *********.

*** **** (*) ***** ********** ********* **** **** ****** *** ***** ** ***.

** ** * ********** ***?

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Marty Calhoun

IPVMU Certified | In reply to John Honovich | 04/20/17 10:26am

***** *** **** *** *** **** *******. *** ** ******** has ******** *** **** *** ***** ** * ** **** you *** *****. ***** *** ********* ******* ** ******** **************, government *******, ***. *****-****. * ** * ***-*** (**** ***-***) bit ****** *** ******** * **** ** **** *** **** is ********* ** ********** ** *** ****** *******. ** ** not *** *** ** *** ***** **** ********* *** ************ a ******* **** ********* **** (** ** **'* ** *********) people ** *** ***** ******** ****** ** ****. *** *** users, ******** **** **, * **** ********** *** *******. **** is *** * ****** **** ** ******, *** ******* *** not ******, **** **** * ********* *** ** **** *** if **** **** ****** ****** *** ****** ******** *** * can *** ** *** *** ** *** *** ******** **** has * ***** *** ****-** *** ****** *** **** *** attempts ** ****** ********* '******-******' **** *** ********** ** ***** corner. * **** *** ****** ******** ***** *** **** ***** bulbs **** *** ******* **** **** **** *****.

Undisclosed #2

In reply to Marty Calhoun | 04/20/17 09:35pm

**** * ****** *** ******, ******

...***** *** ****'* ** ********* **********'* ****** *** *****...

...(** ** **'* ** *********)... *********** *** *******...

...*** ***'* ** ********* ** *******...

Undisclosed #3

In reply to Marty Calhoun | 04/20/17 11:38pm

*** ******* *** *** ******, **** **** * ********* *** of ****

**** ********* **. ******* **** ****'* ********* ** ******* ******** suicides ** *** ***** ********* * ** ***** **.

* **** *** ****** ******** ***** *** **** ***** ***** they *** ******* **** **** **** *****

**** ***'* * ********* *****.

Undisclosed #3

In reply to Marty Calhoun | 04/19/17 10:21pm

*****, ************* ** ***** * ****. *** **** ****** ***** *** it ****** *** **** **** ** ********* *********.

Undisclosed #2

In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #3 | 04/19/17 10:30pm

********* ****'** *** **** '******'...

Undisclosed #5

In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #3 | 04/20/17 02:21am

*'* *** * ****** ** *** ******* ** **** * MAGA *** ***.

Undisclosed #3

In reply to Undisclosed #5 | 04/22/17 05:26am

****'* *** * **** ***, *** *** ******** **** **** than *** ********* *** ******.

Undisclosed Manufacturer #4

In reply to Marty Calhoun | 04/20/17 12:05am

*****, * ***** **** ******* *** * ***** *** ****** should ** ******* ** *** ********* ** *****. *** **** earned **. *** ** **** **** *** ***** **** *** have **** *** ****.

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Marty Calhoun

IPVMU Certified | In reply to Undisclosed Manufacturer #4 | 04/20/17 10:06am

***** *** ** # * * ** ******* ** **** comment.

Undisclosed Manufacturer #4

In reply to Marty Calhoun | 04/20/17 10:48am

* *** ******* ** *****, *'** *** ** * **** word *** *** *** *** *** ****.

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Marty Calhoun

IPVMU Certified | In reply to Undisclosed Manufacturer #4 | 04/20/17 09:59pm

***** *** ** #* *** ****** **** *** ** *******.

Undisclosed #5

04/20/17 03:50am

*********, *** **** **** *** ********* ****? **** **** ******* saturated *** ****** ** ** ****. ** *** ********** ***'* using ********* *** ** *** ** ***** ****, **** ***** will. ** ***** **** **'* ******* ****** *** **** ********* dealers *** *** ******* *** ************ **** ********* **********. ***** will **** *** *** ** ***. * ***'* *** ***** premium ******* ** ********** ********, * *** *** **** $** turret **** ** ** ******* ****.

John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Undisclosed #5 | 04/20/17 01:36pm

#*, **** ****** *** ******, ******!

********* ********** **** **** (*.*., ********** *** *** ***), **** their ***** ** ********** ********* (**** ******** *****************).

*** *** *** ** ****** ** *****. $** ******* ** not ***** **** ******* ** ***** *** *******, ********, ********* and ***** ***** ** ******* ***** ********* *******, **** ********* dealers.

*** ** *** ********** ****, **** ** **** **** ********* about ***** *** **** ***** ************* ***** *** *** ***** quality ** *** ******** **** *****, ***.

Undisclosed #10

In reply to John Honovich | 04/21/17 06:20pm

*** ** *** ********** ****, **** ** **** **** ********* about ***** *** **** ***** ************* ***** *** *** ***** quality ** *** ******** **** *****, ***.

** ** **********, *** ********** *** ********** ********* **** * pattern:

*. **** ******* ****** *** *****. *** ** ***** *** (and *** ******). *****. **** ********, ***** *** **** **** many ******* ****** ***** ***** **** *** **** ***** **, at *****, ******* *** *****: **** ** ******* **********, *****, the ******** *** ** ******** ********, ***.

*. ** ******* **** ****-****** ******* (***** ** ***** ** a ** ** ****-***** *****), **** ** ******* **** * top *****. *** **** ***** ** *** ******* *.

*****, ** ** **********.

*******, ** ** *** *** ***** *** *****. **** **** try * ****** ****** ** ******** ** ** ********** *** already *********** *** ***** ******, **** *** ** **** ******* with **** **********. *** ** *** ********** ** ******* (******* itself ** ******* *** ******** ***** ****, *.*., *** *****), the ******** ****** ********* *** *****, ********* *** **********, ********* both.

************, * ****** ***** ****** **** ***** ****** ******** ** their ***** ********* (*************, ***** ******, ***** ********, *******, ******) and *** **** ** ***** ********. *** (*****, ** ** experience), **** *********/*** ********* **** **.

John Honovich

IPVM | 04/20/17 01:12pm

*** **** ** ***** **** ******* ********* ******:

**** ****** ** ***, **** *** ********** ********** **** *** race ** *** ******.

*******, **** ** ******* **** ******* ****** ***'* **** ** happen, ******** *** ********** ** ******* ** *** ** ****** the ***** ***** ****.

Michael Miller

In reply to John Honovich | 04/20/17 01:30pm

* ******** * **** ********* **** ********* ******* ***** **** sale.. **** *** * *****.

John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Michael Miller | 04/20/17 01:33pm

* ******** * **** ********* **** ********* ******* ***** **** sale.. **** *** * *****.

****'* *********** *** **** ******** ********* ** **** ****** ** to **** **** ***** ** ****** *** ***** ****.

Michael Miller

In reply to John Honovich | 04/20/17 01:47pm

*** *** **** *** ******* **** **** *****.

Undisclosed Integrator #9

In reply to John Honovich | 04/21/17 03:38pm

** *** * **** ********* **** *** ** ***** ****** sales ****** ***** ** * *****. * *** * ******* there *** ***** ** ** * ******** ****** **. *** (disrubtor) **** *** ** ***** ** *** *** ** **** week *********** * **% *** ****. ********* ** ********* ****'*/******* sale ******* ** ***** ******** **/* *** *** **** * year. ***'* ******** ***** **** ******.

*** ********* **** ** ** ***** ** ******* ** **** things *** * **** ****** * *******, ** ***** *** bottom ****. *'* ****** *** ********* ***** *** ** *** going **** ***** *****.

*** *** *** ******* ******** ** **, ********* *** *** will ***** **** ** ******.

******: **** ******* *** **** ***** ** *** *** **********:*'* ****** *** ********* ***** *** ** *** ***** **** Steam *****.

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Shannon Davis

TED Systems | In reply to John Honovich | 04/20/17 04:52pm

*** ********* ** ********** *** *** *** ********. ***** ***** they **** **** **** **** ** *** *********** ********** ******* but *** ******* ** *** ******** **** ****** ** **** more **** *** **** *****. ** *** **** *** ***** quotas ** ** ********. ** **** ** ******* **** ****** a ****** ** ***** *** **** *** * ********* ****** in **** ****** *** ** *** ****** **** ********.

Undisclosed #5

In reply to Shannon Davis | 04/20/17 05:04pm

****, ***'* *** ***** **** *** ***** **** * ***** convincing ********* ****** $*** ******* ** ****** ** $** *******.

Undisclosed Manufacturer #8

In reply to John Honovich | 04/20/17 09:46pm

***'* ***** *** *** **** ** ***...***** ********** "*** *** word ***" ****** **** **** **** **** *** **** ** the *** **** **** *** **** *** ***** ************, *'* sure.

* **** **** ** ***** **** ** **** **** ***** product ***** ******* ****** ** *** ******* *** *** "******" than ** **** ** **** * *** **** ***** *******.

John Honovich

IPVM | 04/20/17 01:38pm

*********** ** ** ** ***, *** **** ***** *** **% but ********* ** ******* ********:

* ***** ******* ***** ************ **** ******** ** **** ***** on *****.

*****, **** *** * ***** **** ****, ******** *** ******** a ******* *****.

Undisclosed Integrator #6

04/20/17 01:49pm

** ** ***** * ** ******* ** **** * ****** different. *** ******** ***** ** ****** ****** ** *** "**** dollar" ******* *****. **** ****** *** ****** **** ** ******** at *******. **** *** ****** ********** *** ** *** *** way *******. * ** *** ******** $***-*** ** * **** of ***** **** ***** ** ****** **** **** $**. **** are ***** *****. ** ***** ******* **** ** **** ** an **** *** ******'* *** ** ***** *** ** ** it ** "** ****".******** *** * *** ********* ***** ***** most ** *** ********* ****** ** ** **** *****. *** may *** * ** *** *** ** ***** *** *** up ****** ****. ******** ** * ******* ********* ***** *** dancers? ****** **** **** **** ***** **** ** ** * stripper ******* ** * ****? **** ***** **** ***** ***** and ******** ********. *** ** ****'* **** * *** ** info, *** ** *** ******** *** *********. * **** ** interesting **** ** **** ** *** ******* ** ***** *** on **** ****** ** **** ****. *** *** ****** **** more ********* **** **** ***** **** **** ***** ***** ********. That's **** ** ******.

John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #6 | 04/20/17 02:11pm

*** ******** ***** ** ****** ****** ** *** "**** ******" clothes *****. **** ****** *** ****** **** ** ******** ** Walmart.

#*, *** ****, * ***** **** ***. ***** ** ********** room *** *** ******** ** ********* *** **** *********. **** in **********, *** *******, **** ** ********, **** *** **** the ******* *** ******** **********.

** ***** ** **** ** *** **** ** ****** * Wal-Mart ******** ***** *** **** ** ** **** ******* *** cannot ******* ** **** ** '****' ********* ******** *** ********* events (**** ***** **********). **** * ******** **********, **'* ***********. From ** ******** **********, **'* *** ***********.

*** *** ****** **** **** ********* **** **** ***** **** want ***** ***** ********.

* ***** ***** ** **** *** ********* ******* **** *** appreciate *** *********. ****'* ************ ** ******* * ***** ******** ********* **** ** *********.

Undisclosed #5

In reply to John Honovich | 04/20/17 03:02pm

** **** ***** * ** *** ** ********* ** **** times....

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Marty Calhoun

IPVMU Certified | In reply to John Honovich | 04/20/17 10:16pm

**** * ** ******* ***** **** ** *** ******* ** the ********* *************. ** *** **** *** *********** **** *** could *** ** ********* ******* (** **** *****) **** *** camera ***** ********* ** ******* *** *** *** ** ****** thru ************? * **** ***** *** **** ****** *** ** forth ** ******, *** * ******* **** ** * *** mini-dome *** *******? **** **** ***********? $* *****, $** *****?

* ***** ***** **** ******* **** **** ***** ** ********* before ******* * ******* ** ******* ** **** ****, ** even "*********" (***** ** *********) ** *** **** ****** ** often. ** ***** *** ******** ** ** **** ** *** cameras **** that * ************ ** *** ****** ***** ******* ******* ******* before ***. ******** *****, **** ***** *****.

John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Marty Calhoun | 04/20/17 11:58pm

"*********" (***** ** *********)

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** *** *** *** "******", *** "#*", *** "*** ***", the "***** ****" *** ***'* **** ***** ****** ** *** industry ****** **** ** ****** *** ****** **** '***** ****".

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Marty Calhoun

IPVMU Certified | In reply to John Honovich | 04/21/17 12:37am

****- ** *** ****** ******* **** ********* *** ***** ****** to **** ***** ****** ** ***** ********* *** ******* **** come ** * **** *** *** *******? *** *** ******* me?

**** ********* ***** ** ********* **** ** ***** ****** *** I **** ***** ******** *** **** ** ********* ** ***** Sales **** ********** ** *** ****, ****.

Greg Cortina

In reply to Marty Calhoun | 04/21/17 12:40am

* *** ** * *** ******* ******* ***** ** ******.....*** recieved *** **** *** *** ******* *** ******* ****** *** the ****.

Undisclosed #5

In reply to Marty Calhoun | 04/21/17 12:45pm

**** **** **** **** ***'* **** **. **** *** ******* your ******** ** **** ******.

John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Marty Calhoun | 04/21/17 12:07am

** ***** *** ******** ** ** **** ** *** ******* cost a ************ ** *** ****** ***** ******* ******* ******* ****** you.

** ***** ** *****, ***** ********** *** ***** ******* ** ~40% ********, ~**% *************. ** **** *** ********, **** ******* the ******* **** *** **** **** * ******* *****. ********* are *** *****, *****'* *****, ********, ***** ****** *****.

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*** ** **** **** ***** ***** **** ****** *****. ********* USA *** ****** *********** ** **** *** *** ****** *** worse *** *****, **** **** **** ** ***** *** *** 2017 **** ****** ******* ***** ***** *****. ** **** **** gross ******* **** *** ***** ** **** *********** **** *** continuously ********** ***** ***** ********* *** ******* ********.

Undisclosed #3

In reply to John Honovich | 04/24/17 01:50am

**** *** **** ********* **** ***** ** ***** ******* *** answer **:

*. ** *** *** * ********* ******** ***** *** ** these ***** ******** ****** **** **********? ******* **** *** *** a **** ** ***** ** ****** *** $**** ** **** product *** *** **** **** ***** ** *** ******** ** about ** ***** ** *****.

*. **** ******** *** ************. ** **** ***** **** ** become *** ********?

******: **** ******* *** **** ***** ** *** *** **********:*** **** ********* ***** ****** ***** ***** **** *** ***********'* Commissions?

Undisclosed #2

In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #3 | 04/24/17 04:59am

******* **** *** *** * **** ** ***** ** ****** for $**** ** **** ******* *** *** **** **** ***** as *** ******** ** ***** ** ***** ** *****.

********** **** ***** *** **** **** ****'* ******** ************* ****.

Undisclosed #5

In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #3 | 04/24/17 12:23pm

** ***** ***** ***** *****...

Josh Bylsma

04/24/17 02:00pm

*** *** ****: ******* *** *** ** ***** *** ***** prices.

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