I must be spoiled here I have the Genetec install downloaded in about 5 minutes. I have our sites pretty well documented so being ready with the proper installers is usually not a big deal. Now Cumulative updates and hotfixes are a whole other story.
VMS Installer Sizes Getting Out of Control
Huge VMS file sizes increase installation size and can cause problems in the field.
As VMSes become more mature and add features their file size has ballooned, with some now requiring multi-gigabyte downloads.
In this note, we examine file sizes for seven VMSes (including Axxon, Avigilon, Exacq, Genetec, NxWitness, Milestone and OnSSI), and the issues involved.
I have the Genetec install downloaded in about 5 minutes
So 4.2TB in 300 seconds? Am I missing something? That's 14GB/s?
[Edit / Correction: 4.2GB, so it's 14MB/s or 112Mb/s.]
Missing a G in the T and it becomes and M ?
but 14MB/s is pretty decent !
4.2GB i think would be 14MB/s . That would be doable, my downloads are 100Mb/s here.
Actually it's not.
100 megabit a second is approx 12.5 megabytes a second and that's your theoretical max. In all likelihood it will be slower due to a range of things.
I would like to add that Avignon Server include client app and latest firmware update. Also the new client stand-alone, no installation required, is 40MB.
Any you can get the server only .MSI which is 551MB
These large sizes are a main reason why we've had them available to 'preload' on our Server an Client machines for several years now.
With the Genetec one..you have to use a NON FAT32 formatted USB drive because 2GB is the largest a file can be.
FAT32 is limited to just a shade under 4GB on most modern FAT32 implementations.
only a few really old PC's will have the 2GB limit....so, actually thinking about it, 80% of VMS installs running on core2duo's then may have issues ;-)
It's not limited to VMS packages - several camera manufacturers' "finder" tools can only be (easily) found as part of a bloated management/NVR/VMS bundle.
If memory serves, last time I needed to download a finder for Samsung cameras, the only thing available was a 130-something MB download of their camera management tool. Which is great and very convenient if you're setting up an entire site with their cameras, but a lot if you just need to find one or two cameras on the network. Arecont was the same thing at one time - the only "finder" I could track down was the full-on tool that needed to be installed. It took complaining on a forum about the (complete lack of) quality of that tool that led to someone sending me their little lightweight standalone finder, which wasn't anywhere on their website.
Printers and all-in-one printer/scanner units are the same - while most have small standalone driver downloads available, they're often hidden far below the more prominent "full software package" that can often be 300-500MB.
Correction to exacqVision: The 164MB download is a bundle of client, server, and web service. You do not need to download an additional 78MB client; it's already in the 164MB file.
Thanks, Ryan, fixing that.
Avigilon is the same way. Client is included with the server download.
I notice a lot of those "VMS shootout" articles seem to have lost their video links, including I think the one mentioned in the article above - VMS Installation Comparison. These as well:
U2 - These are update now, thank you.
Wow, I never realized how spoiled we are only having to download ~150MB. 4+GB would take a long time on my 24mbps max Uverse connection.
err, who really cares?
if you're heading out to site to do anything on a VMS, isn't it prudent to have a couple of USB's with the latest and greatest already downloaded and ready to go?
Great theory, until you run into something you weren't prepared for and have to download it on the spot.
Our techs have USB drives with regularly updated firmware/software. When something new is released, we load it on their USB drives for them to take in the field. Most of our "technical work" is done over TeamViewer so the tech plugs in the USB drive while the guy at the office does the rest. We used to download everything from whatever website we needed it from, but we felt that was a waste of time.
IPConfigure Orchid "wins" at 86.1MB. Many of the other VMS platforms include .NET in their installer, which is both a gross dependency and large in size.
Is that 100% of the code and dependencies, or is it in the fashion of an online installer where additional components are downloaded during installation?
100% of the code and dependancies. Try it out... http://www.ipconfigure.com/products/orchid
Sizes vary drastically, from 150-160 MB for Exacq and Network Optix to over 4 GB for Genetec Security Center.
OK, but would you rather date Miley Cyrus or Kate Upton? ;)
Some VMS' have a parent system (base) which allows for download via a web link so remains internal on the customer network. They also provide automated updates to the recording servers so work in background without any effort. Once the update system is setup, there is no further need to download from the vendors site unless doing a major upgrade on the core VMS.
Some of the blame falls to Microsoft.
It's clumsy install system, and lack of dependency management & packaging infrastructure, and monolithic applications mean a lot of manual work, and little cross sharing of common libraries.
Well made installs on Linux are much more straight forward, one command line's worth to install, another for operating system shared components, from a huge available library. All easily scriptable, repeatable, remotable.
Possibly one reason NX Witness is smaller.