Forget The Backdoor, "ALL HIKVISION PRODUCTS" On Sale

Author: John Honovich, Published on May 18, 2017

Less than 2 weeks after the Hikvision Backdoor was confirmed, Hikvision has launched a sale "ON ALL HIKVISION PRODUCTS".

In this note, we examine Hikvision's move, and how putting all products on sale can help and hurt the company.

**** **** * ***** ***** ************ ******** *** *********, ********* *** ******** * **** "** *** ********* ********".

** **** ****, ** ******* *********'* ****, *** *** ******* all ******** ** **** *** **** *** **** *** *******.

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ALL ******** ** ****

*********, ** ***** ** *** ****** *** **** ***** ******* below *** *** *** ******** ** ****:

**** ******** * '****** ***' *** *******, *.*., ******* **** an ******** **% ** **% ********* *** *** **% ** top ** ****, ***.

*** **** ***, *** **** ******* ***** ******* ** ** 18% *** ** *********:

** **** *** ****** ********, ** ** ******* ********* **** finished ******* "*** ********* ********" ** **** * *** ***** ago, ***** ******** **** *** *** ****** ********:

** **** ********* **** '* **** ****', **** *********** **** 3 **** **** ****.

Positive - ***** *** ***** *******

*** ***** ********* ******* *** ** *** **** ***** *** backdoor, **** ** *****. **** ******** *****, ****** *****, ***** on *** ** ****** ********* ******** * ****** ********* ***** to ********* *******. ****** ********* ** ****, ** ** ****** to ** **** ****** *** **** ** ********* ***** *** likely **** ** ****** **** ********** *** *******.

********, ** ********* *** ******* ** ***** ******* ***** *******. Literally ** *** **** ** ***** ** **** *** ***** of ***** ******* **** *** **** ***** **** **** ********* offers.

*******, *** ***** ******* ****** ** *********'* ************* ******** *** growing *********** ** ******* ********** *******, **** ***** ********* **** a **** *** ** **** ***** ******** *** **** *** dealer **** *********.

Negative - ***** ********

********* *** **** ** ***** **** **** **** ** ** seen ** * ******* ******** ** **** *******, ****** *********. These ***** **** '*** ********' ***** *********** *** ********** **** greater ****.

****** *** *** ******** ************, ********* ***** ** ***** *********** and **********. ******* ********** ** **** **** ****** ** **** people **** **** ** *** **** ******* *** **** **** to ****** ** ******* ***** ******. ******* ** ** ****, computers ** *******, *** ******* ******** ** *** ** ** significant ***** ***** *** *****. *** ** *** *** **** than * ***** ***** *** ********, *** **** *** ******* "Our ******** ** **** ******** ** ** *** ***** ** cut ***** ******."

** **********, ****** ******* *** ********* *** *** **** ********* about *************, ******* *** ********* **** ***** **** *****, **** tend ** **** *** ********* ******** ******** ** *** ********* of **** ********* **** ******** *****.

Short **** ***** ** **** **** *****

*** ********* *** ********* ** *** ***** ******* ***** **** sales *** **** **** ***** ********.

**********, ********* ** ****** *** **** ******* **** * ******* maximization **********, *** ******* ***** *****. **** ******* **** * significant ****** **** *** ***** ***** **** ******** ***** *******.

***, **** ****, ***** ***** **** *********'* ***** ** **** non-Hikvision ******* *** ****** *** ** *** **** ******** ******* of ********* *** ********* *********** *** ********* *********'* ******** *** the ******** ********** ** * ******* *** ******* ** ****** on ******* ****** ** **** *******.

********* ** ******* ** ***** **** ******* ************ *** **** are ******* ****** ****-**** ***** ******.

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Comments (51)

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Ricardo Souza

IndigoVision Ltd | IPVMU Certified | 05/18/17 09:01pm

*** ** ** ****'* because ** *** ****** exchange **** ** ** country, * ***** * would *** ** ***** some. **'* ** ** they *** ******* *** to ** ** =*

Undisclosed Manufacturer #1

05/18/17 10:46pm

**'* **** * ******* *** ********* ****** ****** ** ***** the ******* ****** ** ** **...

Undisclosed Integrator #2

05/19/17 12:16am

**** ** **** ** a **** ** **** for *** ********* *************:

**** ** *** **********!

***** *****, *** ** certainly ******* ** ** reconsider ****. **** **-**% on *** ** *** 60% ***, ** ****. You **** ******** **** keep *** *********** ** help *** *** ** certain ********.

* ***** ******* ** the **** ** * don't ******* ****** ****** cares * ****** **** now **** * ************ was ******* ***** ************. Banana ******** *** **-**% off ***** ***** **** (with ** ***** ** stopping) *** **** ****** a ********* ******* ** least ****.

* *** **** *** having ******** ***** ***** the ********** ** * "premium *****" *** **** on *************. **** **** game ** ** *** to *******. **** *** guys ** ***** *** to ***** *** **** sales ** *** ** offering *** **** **** you **** *** **** to *** *****. ** action ***** *** *** scratching **. ******* ** strong ********, ******* ***'* reach ** ** *** doors.

John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #2 | 05/19/17 12:58am

****** ******** *** **-**% off ***** ***** **** (with ** ***** ** stopping) *** **** ****** a ********* ******* ** least ****.

****:*** ********** ******** ********* ** Be * **** ** Gap ***., *****:

*** ******** ******** *** August **** ***** *****, which **** ** *%, driven ** * **% decline ** *** ****** Republic *****.

********** ****: ****** ********'* president ** *** ** the *** ***** ********* to **** *******, *****:

****** ******** *** **** a ********** **** ***** over ***'* ********. *** only *** ** **** shoppers ** ******* ****-******* labels, *** *** ******** workplace *** ****** **** casual. ***** ****** **** the ***** **** * downward ****** ** ** percent *********, ** ** tried ** ***** ******** back **** *** ******.

**** ****, * ***** your ******* *********** *** can ********** **** *****, "**-**% ** *** ** our **% ***" ** quite * *********.

* ** *****, ** the ****** ******** ******* shows, ***** ***** **** deep ***** *** ********* a **** ** ********. That ****, **** **** money *** *** *** take **** ******* ***** of **** **** ****** Hikvision ******, ***** ****** buying *******, ************ ******* need ** ** ********** and ********* *** *****.

Undisclosed Integrator #2

In reply to John Honovich | 05/19/17 07:27am

* *** ** *** that ***** ******. **** links ** ***** ** taste ** *******. :(

* ****** ** *** thought ****** ***** ****'*, J.C. ******, ****'*, *.*. Maxx, **** ******, **********, Old ****, *** **** BR. *** **** ** mainly *** ** *** american ********* ******* **** casually ******* ** **** and ********** ** *** less. *** ** ** the *** *** *** feel, *** ******* ** certainly ****** **** ** which ** *** * prefer **** *** **** the *****. *** ** Marty ************ ****?

* ****'* *** *** best ******* ** ** is ****** **** ** begin **** *** *** is *** ** ***** with. * *******.

*** **** ****** * responded **** *** ***** sales *** **********. **** a ******* ***** ** an ******** ******** ***** I ******* * ****** door **** *** *********** of ***** ************. ** won *** *****, **** the ***** ** ***, while *** * *** project, * **** ** win ** ***, *** just ****, **** *** better *** *** ******** to ** **** *** vendor. **** **** ** themselves **** **** *** have * ******* *** I ***** **'* ** fault *** ******** ** rebid **** *** **** they ****** ** **?????

* ***** ********, ******* sales, * **** *************** and ********* ******. * got ******* ** ** the ******** *** **** me *'* ************. ************

Undisclosed Integrator #5

In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #2 | 05/21/17 03:40am

@*********** ********** #*: ******** *** ****** "******** ** ****** *****."

Undisclosed Integrator #7

In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #2 | 05/21/17 02:55pm

***** ********, ***** *** will ***** ********* **** the **********.

Undisclosed Integrator #5

In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #7 | 05/21/17 03:10pm

* ********* *****, ** *** ***** ******** **** *** ****, but ** ** ** ******* **** **, ** **** *** you.

Undisclosed Integrator #2

In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #7 | 05/22/17 05:57am

***** ********? *** **?

John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #2 | 05/22/17 11:13am

***** ********? *** **?

#* ****** ********* ***** he ** ***** ********* your *********** *****:

* ***** ********, ******* sales, * **** *************** and ********* ******. * got ******* ** ** the ******** *** **** me *'* ************. ************

**** **, #* ** saying *** ****** ***** Hikvision *** ********* *** that *** ******** **** the ***** **** ** buying ********* ******** (*** related ******* ** #* below). **** #* ** saying ***** *** '********' is **** *** ****** learn ** **** *********.** * ***** #*? :)

Jason Spielfogel

In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #2 | 05/20/17 03:56pm

******** ***** *** *** a ****** **********, ** my *******. ***? ******* clothing ********* (** *** retailers ** *******) *** far **** ************* ** how **** ***** *********** than ** *** ** the ******** ********.

*** *******, ****** ******** may ********* ***** * shirt ** $**.** **** though *** **** ** the ***** ** $**.**. They *** ** **** and *** **** **** $29.99 ***** "**** *****." Then, **** * *******, they *** ***** **** same ***** *** $**.** and ********* ** ** a "**% ***" (** the ****) **** ***** in ******* **'* **** a *** ******* ******* than ***** ******* "***-****" price.

*********, ** *** ***** hand ** ****** ***** discounts ** ***** ******* massively ********** *****, ***** would ** **** ****** Republic ******* **** **** $39.99 **** ***** *** $9.99.

**'* **** *** ****** to ******.

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Marco Sanchez

05/19/17 02:02am

**** **** ********** ******** **** ** **** ** ******* **** the *** *** "*" *** *** *****?

**** ******* *** **** ******* ***** **********.

Undisclosed #3

05/19/17 02:09am

************ ********, *** ***** *** ******* **** ***** *** ********** the ******** *****.

**** ** **** ** **** ** **** ******** ******* *** their ***** *************. *'* ** ******* ** **** *** **** of ***** ******* **** **** **** ***** **.

Undisclosed #8

In reply to Undisclosed #3 | 05/21/17 10:06pm

"** **** ******** ******* for ***** ***** *************."

**** ** * ********.

*************, ** ***** **** nature *** ******** ******* *** ****** ** integrator '********'. ***** ******* is ** *** **************. *** **** **** make, *** **** **** love*** **** ************ ********.

***** ************.... ********** * ******* ** there **** *** *** :)

Undisclosed Integrator #9

In reply to Undisclosed #8 | 05/21/17 10:20pm

***** **** ** **** another ******* ** ********* doing ******** ** ***** amazing ************* *** ******* new **** **** *** new *** ******* *** so ***** **** **** super ******* ************* ******** who *** ******** *** the *** ** *** bank *** ********** *** new ************* **********.

***. ***** *****.

** * ***** ** right?

Undisclosed Manufacturer #1

05/19/17 08:16am

**** ***** ************* ***'* (and ******** ***'* **** to) ******* *** *** bargain ******** ******** ** it ***** ******** ******* and *** ********* ******* would ** **** *** that **** ***** **** another ***** *** ** IPVM ;-)

*** *** **** ** this ******* ** *** they *** *** **** is ****** ****. ***** such **** ******* **** what ** ****** **** needs ** **** **** a ********* **** ***** and ******* **** *** no ****** ******* ***** tactics ** ***** *** bullying.

*** ***** ******** **** thrive *** ******* ****** while ****** ** **** have * ***** **** mentality, ******** ***** ** always * **** ***** Hik ** ***** *** plenty ***** ******* ************* just ******* ** **** in. **'* **** * matter ** **** ***** alibaba.com ****** ******** ** install *******.

** ** ** **'* what *** ***** *** and **** *** ******* in *** **** ***** you ***** * *********** business *** *** *** your *********. ***** *** many ***** **** ******* values *** ** *** want ** ** ********** with *** ******* ** all *** ******* ********* on **** **** ***** over.

Undisclosed Integrator #7

In reply to Undisclosed Manufacturer #1 | 05/21/17 03:15pm

"*** *** **** ** this ******* ** *** they *** *** **** is ****** ****."

**** ** ****** **** is * ***** **** of ***** **** **** made **** ******* ******* and ***** *** ***** products. * ***** *** you, **** ** ****** else **** *** **** exactly *** **** (** any) ** *** '*****', which ** ** *** way ** *** ********* assertion ******* ** ** a '****** ****' *** been *****? ********* ** some ******** ******* ********* has *** ****** **** those '****** *****' ******* profits **** ******** ************. But ***** ***** '*******' (similar ** ****) ** not ***** *** ****** at ************ ** ** is ** ** ***** with * ***** ** salt.

*** ***** ** * crazy ********* ** **** devotes * ************ ****** of ***** ***** ** all ********* *** **** (with *****) ***** ***** NET ***** *** **** a ***** ***** * BILLION ***** ** ****** than ****, ********, *** Hanwa ********.

Undisclosed Manufacturer #1

In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #7 | 05/21/17 03:30pm

**** ****** ********* **** you **** **** ****** you ** **** ** what **** ****** ** hear. ***** ********** *********** strategy ***** *** ** sustainable ******* *** ******* of *** **** ********** money. **** *** *********** supported ***** ******** **** relevant ********* *** ***** makes ** **** **** believable **** **** *******.

***** *** **** ** achieve, ********** *** *** with ******* *********, ******* though *** **** ****** to **** ***. *** so **** *** **** the ******** ********* ****...

John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #7 | 05/21/17 08:47pm

**** ** ****** **** is * ***** **** of ***** **** **** made **** ******* ******* and ***** *** ***** products

*** ***** ** **** money ****** ****? **** last ****, **** **** 70% ** ***** ******* and, ***** ** ** not ****** ***, ****** 100%+ ** ***** ********* profits ***** **** ****** China.

***** *****'* ************* ******** and *********'* ********** *********, they **** * ******* advantage **** *** ************ in *** ***** ****** China. ******* ** *** the ********* ******* ***** from *** ********** ***** in *** **** ** months ** ******* ********** projects (**** ********* $*** ******* ***) **** *** **** 5 *****, *** ****** is *** **** - China ***. ** ******* their ******** *********.

***** *** * *********** issues: (*) *** ******* economy ** ** **** do ** ********** **** loads (***** ***** *** off ***** ********* **********) and *********'* ************* ********* has *** **** ******* problems *** ** ***** cybersecurity ******** *** ******* recognition ** *********'* ********** ownership (***** *********** *** long ********* ********* **** keep **** ******* **).

Josh Bylsma

BLUEmark Technologies | 05/19/17 11:45am

**** **** *** *** take ****.

******* ******** ** ** often **** ****** *** miss-understood ** **** *************. I ** *********** ***** a ******** ******* ** this, ******** ** *** PhySec ********.

***** *** ******* ***** are * *** **** to *** ***’* **** market ********, ** ** should **. *** *** sells **** * ****** will ******* ****** *** they ******** ********** *** their *********. * **** recently *** ** * meeting ***** * ******* stated, “**** *** ** low ** ** *** until ****** *** **, than **** ** *** price” (**** *****).

** ** *****. ** some **** ******* ******, the ***** ******* *********** “forces” **** ** *** HIK ********. *** *** strategy *** ****** **** to ***** ***** (*.*. topline ******) ** ******** the ****** ******* * sale. ** *** **** 3 ******, ***** **** be ******* ‘***** *****’ as ******* *** ************ stock ** ******* ** this ****. **** **** slowly **** ******* ***** low **** *********, ********* adding **** ****** ******* for **********, ***** **** decrease *** ***-****, **** driving *** **** *** another ****.

** * *** * HIK ******, * ***** start ** *** **** out *** ********** ** buys ***********.

**** * ***’* **** to *** ** **** around ** ***, *** does *** ** ****? This ** *** *-******* of **** ********. ****, companies **** ******* “******* pricing” *** *** ***** sales ** ****** ********* from ********* ***. *** should **** ** ***, keep *** ********** ** the ***** ** **** own ******* ****. ** not *** *** *****. Price ******* ** * dead-mans, **** ***** ****** to **** ******. *** soon ** ****** ****-****? How **** ******* ******* selling **** ** **** than ****… *** **** of ***** *** ***** around?

**** **** ** * very *** *** ************* pricing ********. ** **** point **** **** ********.

John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Josh Bylsma | 05/19/17 12:52pm

** * *** * HIK ******, * ***** start ** *** **** out *** ********** ** buys ***********.

****, ***** ** *** ahead ** *** ;)* *** ** ***** Sale **** ********* ********, Many ** ***** ****+

***** ******* ** * dead-mans, **** ***** ****** to **** ******.

********* *** ********* **** ** *** US ***** *** ** 2015*** ****'* **** ****** were **** *** *********.

**** * ***’* **** to *** ** **** around ** ***, *** does *** ** ****?

**********, ** *** ** maximize ***** **** ******* with *** **** ******* of ******** ***** ***********. Now, ** ** ******** more ** * **** to ********** ***** ******* problems - *** ****** or *****.

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Rich Moore

05/19/17 01:18pm

** * *** *** to *** ****** *** saw * ************ **** was ****** *********** ***** products, * ***** ***** one ** *** ******:

**** *** ***** *** a ******

**** *** ******* *** their *****

***** *** ***** ** brother ****** ****, * had ** **** *** house. ** **** ** at * ********** ***** and ** ****** **** made. *** **** ****** agent **** **** ** should *** * ********* approach *** ****** *** price ** $**,***. ** had * ****** ** the *** ** *** week. **'* *** ****** the ***** ** **** you **** *** **** the ********* ***** ** what *** **** ** offer.

Undisclosed Manufacturer #4

05/19/17 01:55pm

**** ** **** **** ******** ****** ** *** ******** **** all ***** ********* ********

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Sean Nelson

Nelly Security | 05/20/17 12:37am

**** ******* ****** *** Hik ********* *** ********. They ***** *** ** thing *********** **** ****** else *** ******** **** scratches ***** **** ********* what **** *** *****.

**** *********** ***** ***** to ****** ****** ** buy. ***** *** ******* a ****** ***** ** this ****** ************* *** fact. *.*, *** ***** are *******.

***** ************* *** ******* around ******** "** ***** never ***** *********, ***** prepostorous"

********* *** ********* ** persuade *** ********* ** try **** ***, *** the *** **** *** the ***** ************* ** they *** ****** ******** to ***.

* **** ***** *** is ****** ** ** the *********** ** ********. I ***** **** *** trying ** ** ****. Having ***** *** *****.

+* *** ***. ** you ****** ***** ***, i **** *** ** try ** ***. *** wont ** *** ****.

John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Sean Nelson | 05/20/17 01:00am

**** *********** ***** ***** to ****** ****** ** buy

******, ***** ** ****** people ** ***.

*******, *** ** *** you: **** ** *** point ** ****** ~*** local ********* *** ******** lavishly ** ****** (*.*., few ******* ******** ******* five ***** *** ** the *** *****)? ** not *** ***** ** all ** **** ** entice ****** ** *** and, ******* ***********, ** buy ** * *******?

** **** ***** **** Hikvision ***, "** ** need ** *** ****** across *** ***** ***** month, **** ** ** need *** ***** ***** people *** ***** ********?"

**'* *** ***** ** double *** *********, **'* not ***** ** **** ~400 ***** *********, *** it ********* ** *** cheap ** ******* **** together. *****/********?

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Sean Nelson

Nelly Security | In reply to John Honovich | 05/20/17 01:22am

* ***** ** ***** down ** *** ********:

** ** ******* ** is ** ***?

John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Sean Nelson | 05/20/17 01:40am

** ** ******* ** is ** ***?

'*******' ** **** ***? Revenue? *******? *****?

  • ******* - *******, ******* is ********** ***** ** and ** ****** **** without *****
  • ******* - *** ******* (We *** ****** ** they *** ****** *****, how **** **** *** losing ***. *** ********* big ********* **** **** sales *** ********* ***** is *** *** *******)
  • ***** - ******* *** smaller ******* / ********* ("wow, **** ** **** stuff, **** *******, ********** low *****"), *** ******* for *** *** ** high ("** **, **'* this ******* ********** ***** company **** **** ** cyber ******** ********* *** sales ******** ******").

**** **** ** *******?

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Sean Nelson

Nelly Security | In reply to John Honovich | 05/20/17 02:10am

* **** ** ******** that **** ** ******. What * *** **** you ** **** *** of ** ******* **** hik **** **** ** that **** *** *** fools. **** *** **** cautious ******** ******** ****** who ***** ****** ******* and **** **** **** about ****** *** ***** like **** *** **** business ******** ********* **. If **** ***** *******, i **** ***** **** would ******** ** ** it.

John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Sean Nelson | 05/20/17 10:42pm

**** *** **** ******** business ******** ****** *** think ****** *******

**, ** **** *** truly ** '********' *** think ****** *******, **** explain *** ********* ** me:

(*) *** ***** **** design * **** **** makes **** **** ******* from ***** **** ***** dealers *** *** ***** to *** ******?

(*) *** ***** **** design * **** **** indiscriminately ***** *** **** discount ***** ** ***** hottest ******* ******** ** their ******* ******* ****?

(*) *** ***** **** design * **** **** penalizes ********* ***** ******* registration ** ****** ***** dealers ****** ****** *** sale **** ******* *********?

(*) *** ***** **** design * **** **** penalizes ***** *** (*.*., diamond) ******** ** **** do *** *** ****** the **** ** ******** lower ****** ******* **** buy ** ***** ***** to *** ******* *********?

(*) *** ***** **** run ***** ***** *** simultaneously *** *** ***** sales ******? *******'* ***** sales ****** ** **** to **** *** ***** of ********* ******* ******* prices ** *** ** their ******* *** *******?

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Brian Karas

IPVM | 05/20/17 12:50am

**** ******* ****** *** Hik ********* *** ********. They ***** *** ** thing *********** **** ****** else *** ******** **** scratches ***** **** ********* what **** *** *****.

**** ** ********* ***** differently? **** **** *** same ***** ******** ** many ***** *************: **** through ************, ***** * field ***** *****, ***. There ** ** **** scratching ***** ******** ** obvious (*** *********): *** to "***" ****** ***** through ******** ***** *** low ******, *** **** that *** ***** **** a ********** ******** ** time.

***** ************* *** ******* around ******** "** ***** never ***** *********, ***** prepostorous"

****? ****** ** ***** manufacturers ***** *********, **** just ** ** **** strategically ******* ****** **** project ************* ******* ** monthly **** *** ***'* (e.g.:******* ****** **** ******* Registration *******).

********* *** *** ****** the ******* ** ***** always ** ****. ********* stores, ******** *******, ***-*** car *******, ****** ******, etc. *** *** **** strategy. **** ***** ********* like *.*.****** *** **. It ** ********* ********* as * ***-*** ******** and *** **** ****** customers ** **** "******" prices ** ***-****, *** to **** *** ** sale. ** ******* **** difficult ** *** *** of **** ***** *** move **** ***** ******** (as *.*. ****** ******* the **** ***).

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Bobby Mancia Jr.

MIZELA Corporation | IPVMU Certified | 05/21/17 03:34am

* ** *** **** if *** ******* ******** will **** ** *** USA *** ***** ******* countries *** ** ****, the ******** ** "*** price - **** ****** strategy" *****. **** ****** to ******* *** **** to *** ***** ******** keeping * ******* *******, consequently ******** *** ********* base. **** ** *** product *** * **** quality *** ***** *******, end **** **** ******** it ** ********* *****.

John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Bobby Mancia Jr. | 05/21/17 10:39am

"*** ***** - **** volume ********" *****. **** wanted ** ******* *** user ** *** ***** products ******* * ******* margins, ************ ******** *** installed ****. **** ** the ******* *** * good ******* *** ***** support, *** **** **** labelled ** ** ********* brand.

****'* ********* ********** *********. The ******** ******* *** do *** ******** **** local ******* *** *** price ************** ****-****? ***** support **** *** ***** well *** ** ***** on * ** / Western ****** **** ********* than * ***** *** cost *********.

*** *******, ********** ********* ******* ******** sales ********* *** *** ** potentially ******* **** *** it ********* *** *** risks.

Undisclosed Integrator #6

05/21/17 01:48pm

** *** **** ** **** **** ******* ** *** ******'* Liberation ****, *** *** *** ** ** *** ****** **** !

***** *** *** * ****** ******** ******* ***, *** **** if **** ******** ***** *** ** ******* ****** ****** ** a ***** ****?

Undisclosed #8

05/21/17 10:29pm

"**** ******* ****** *** Hik ********* *** ********. They ***** *** ** thing *********** **** ****** else ***everyone **** ********* ***** **** ********* **** **** *** *****."

****,

* **** **** *** post *** ***** **** at **** - *** invariably, * **** ****** with **** ********** *** have **** ****** ******** to *** ** ******* customers ***********, *********** *** with *** ************* **** these ****** **** **** your ******** ** *** do *** ***** ****** that *** ** *** them.

*** **** ****** ******* above ** *** ** the **** ****** ****** I've **** **** *** post.

****** *********** ******** ** ***. **** ******* **** Hik ** ********** **** kind ** ******** ***** is * ***** ***.

******** *********** ********** *** ** ***** what **** *** *****... and *** ***** ****** have **** ********** ** nauseam (********* **** *** and *** ******** *****)- yet *** ******** ** ignore *** ******* *** float **** **** ** Ancient ******* ****** **** Hik ** ********* **** everyone **** ***'* ****** out.

**** *** *** ******* all *** ****.... *** please **** **** *** condescending ******** ** ******** that *** ***** ********* that ******** **** *****'*.

**** ******** ** ******* you.

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Sean Nelson

Nelly Security | In reply to Undisclosed #8 | 05/21/17 11:21pm

*** ****** ** ** condescending ** ***, *** just ******** (*** ****** quite ******) **** ***** is ** **** ******** everytime ********* *** * sale *** *** *** haters *********** ***** ***** on *** *** ***, and *** **** *** only ** ** ******* they *** **********. *** Hikvision ********* ** ******** and ****** ** ************* because ** **. *** we *** ***** *** tinfoil *** *********** *** think *********** *** *** these *********:

- **** ** ***** sales *** ********* ********* at ********* *** *******? What ** **** ** an ********* ********* *** of ***********?

- *** *** **** subsidized ********* *** ** ran **** *** ****** and ** ******** ** well ** ******* ******?

- ** *** ***** hikvision ** **** ****** to **** ***** ********* that ****** ****?

- ** ***** *** evidence ***** ***** *** not **********?

- *** *** ********** companies **** ***** ******* sales ** **** * frequent ***** ** *** hikvision **** ** ** because **** *** **********?

- ** *** ** the ********** **** **** negatively ***** ********** ******** practices ******** *** *********?

- ** *** ***** Hikvision ** #* ** the ***** **** ******* they *** **********?

John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Sean Nelson | 05/22/17 12:13am

- ** *** ***** Hikvision ** #* ** the ***** **** ******* they *** **********?

**** *** #* ** the ***** ******* **** are #* ** ***** and **** *** #* in ***** ******* **** are ***** ** *** government. *** **** *** so *** ** ***** because *** ******* ********** has *********** ******* **** spending ****** **** ******.

- **** ** ***** sales *** ********* ********* at ********* *** *******? What ** **** ** an ********* ********* *** of ***********?

*** ***** ****** ** an ********* ********* *** at ********* ******* ******* these ***** ** ********** cause **** ** **** heavily ** ***** ******** core ******** **** *** would *** ******. ***** are **** ****** ** other ********** **** *** be **** ** ******* new ******* **** **** not ****** ** * company ********** *********** ******* from ******** ******* (*** Hikvision **** **** ** these - **** ** sales ******, ********* ** most ***** ***** ******** and *********** *********, ******** lavishly ** ******* *.*., Tao, ******, ******, ***.)

- ** ***** *** evidence ***** ***** *** not **********?

~*** ***** ********* **** all *** ******, *********, etc. ***** ** ****** costs ** $** - $100 *******. *** **** have **** *** ****** dip *** ***'* *** (you ****** ******* **** ADI ** *** ****** up *** *** ****). You ******* **** *** there's *** * *** of ************ ****** *** the *********** ***** ******** they ****.

****, *** *** **** own ********. *** **** us. ********* ** **** the ***** ***** ******** and ***** ****** ********* plus *** ***, ** you ***** **** ***** make **** **********?

Undisclosed #10

In reply to John Honovich | 05/22/17 01:27am

**** *** #* ** *** ***** ******* **** *** #* in ***** *** **** *** #* ** ***** ******* **** are ***** ** *** **********. *** **** *** ** *** in ***** ******* *** ******* ********** *** *********** ******* **** spending ****** **** ******.

*** ***** ***** * ** *** *****,*** **** ** ******** experience,I ******* ********* **** *** ***** *******,**** **** ** *******:

*.*** ********* ***** ** ****:*** ***** **** ** **** * economic ****** ** *** ** ***** ***(****)?

** ** ******* *** *** ******* *** ***** ** *** government,make **** ********.****** *** ** ***** ******* ** **** ******,**** that ** *** ********** ** ********(** *** **** ****** *** better,you *** ****** ** **** * ***)

*.* *** ** ******** ** ***** ***,** ** *** ******* company ** ******* ** **** ********.

*.************* ******** ** *****

**** *** *** ****** *** *******,****** ** *** ******* *******,*** is ****-***** *******.****** ** *******.**** ** *****,**** ** ****** ***** why ****** ** ** ********** **** ** ******,**** **** * wise ******(*** ****** **** *** * *** ******** *********** ** i **** **** **** *%,*** **** *** *** ***** *********** to *** ********） *** **** **** * *** ** ****-******* year ******.（***** **** **** ******* * *** ** *** ******** students,and *** ****** **** ** *** ***** **** ******* *** the **** *******）

*.** ******** ** *****

****** ** *******,** ** *** ******* *******.

*. ****** ***** ** *****

******,**** ,**** ******* ** ****,*** ** **** ** ******* *******.

*.****** ********.

******** ** *******,** ** *** ******* *******.

***** ******* ***** ***** **** ******* *** *** ** ********.

*** *** ****** * **** *****,* **** **** ** ***,** China,now * *** ** ****-**** ********,*** ****** * ** *** state-owned *******.

** ** *** ******* *** ** **% ****-***** *** ********* is *** ******* **********,**** ** **** ** ******** ** ** the ******* **** ** *****.**** *** *** ** *** **** of *****,*** ****** ** *** * *** ******.********* ** ***** be *** ** ** ******* *** * *** ** *****-**** company *** ********** *** *** ***** **** ** ****** ******* economy *** *** * *** ** ******** ******* ** *** state-owned *******.

*** **** *** #* ** ***** ******* **** *** ***** by *** **********

** ****** *** **** ****,* ***** ** ** ******* *** unfair *** *** *** ****-******* ****** ** ***.(********** * ***** one ** **** ****** *** ** *******:**** **** *** *********** investor ** ***** ***** *****,*** *** *********** ******** ** **** enough ** **** *** *********** ** *** *** ***** ** HiK,as * ****,***** ****** ** * ***** **** **** *** stock ** *** *** ******** ***** **** ***** ** ******.*** these ****** **** **** ****,** *** ******* ** ***** ****** and ****** *** *** ********,** *****,*** **** ********** ** **** important.)

* ****** ***** ******* ** * *********** *****,********** ** *****.***** are *** **** ***** **** ** *****.**** *** ****** ****,*** company ** ******* ******* ** ****-*****,***** *** *** ******* ****** words ** *****."*** *****,*** *****".

* **** **** *** *** **** ******,**** ** *** ****** know **** ** ******* ******** **** *********,*** ** ***** **** idea ** *** ******,** ***** *** ***** *****.

Undisclosed #8

In reply to Sean Nelson | 05/22/17 02:02am

****, * ** *** think *** *** ************* by ******.... ** * said ****** * ***** you *** ***** **** you ** ****** **** most *** ** **** same *****.

**** ** ************* ** that *** *** *** other *** ******* ********* that *** ** ********* their ********* ** ******** some **** ** *****-**** marketing ****** **** ****** else *** **** ******* of ******.

**** ** ***** ****** scheme: **** *** ******** unsustainable ******* ** ***** to ******* ****** *****.

************* ****************** **** *** *** make ****** ****** ** sales ** ******** ******** this **** ** ********* and ******** *********** (**** cost *******) *** ***** turn * ******.If **** ***** ** ****, **** ** ****** ***** ******* ** ***** **** ****.

****** ********** **** ******* massive ******** ** ******* short **** ***** *** nothing ***. **** * look ** **** ******** did ** ***** ***** for ***** **** ** reaching * $**** *** rate. ***** ****** ****** was ********* *** *** always ******* ** ** such. ***? ******* ******* spending*** *** ****** **** a ****-****** **************** ****** *****.

**** ** *** *****. The ******* (*********) ******** is ******** ** ******* exactly **** - ********* market *****.

** ******* ** *** will, **** **** ****** scheme ** ******** *** new ** ***.

*** ******* *******, * state *** ******* **** a $** *** ***** with ***** ** ****** that ****** ****** **** a ***********-*******, ********-******** ***** domination ********?

******* ** *** ***** does ******** ** *** global *****. *** ******** is ****** *** **** up ** *** ******** block, ********* ******* *** same **** **** *** decimated **** ***** ** industries.

Jason Spielfogel

05/22/17 02:19pm

** *** ** **** Undisclosed #* *** **** John ******** **** *******, all ** ***** * agree **** ***%, *** have ** ******** *** state ** *** ******* economy. **** ********* ***** got ******** ** **** industry ** ** *** supplier ** ****** **** to ** **** ** 2004, * ******* ******* engineer **** */** **** of * *.*. ******** and */* **** ** a ********* ********. ******* ratios ******* *** ******* workers ******** *** ****.

**** *** ******* ******* started ******* ** ******-***** rates, *** **** **** inflation ***********. ***** ******* to ****, *** * Chinese ******** *** ** 1/4 **** ** * U.S. ********, *** */* that ** * ********* engineer. *** **** *********** disciplines, ******* ********* *** on *** ** **** with ******.

**** **** **** ****? It ***** *********'* ****** to ******** ** ***** below-market ******* ** **** market ***** ***** ***** holding ** ** *** kind ** ********** ************* are ********* *******.

********* *** * *** of ***** ******, **** know *** ** **** already.

** ** *** *** a ******* **** **** and *** **** **** ability ** ******* **** market ***** ** ****** while ***** ********* **********, or ** ***** ****** money ** * ************ rate, **** *** ***** the **** *****.

****'* *** **** **.

**** ** *** * stab ** *********'* ***** dealers. ** ***'** ********** and ******* ** *** of *** ****, *************** to ***. **** ******* the ***** ***** **** end, *** **** *********'* recent ********** *** ************* how ******* ** **** end. ** ***** *****, they're *** **** ******* market ***** ** *** cost ** *******, ****'** gaining ** ** *** eventual *** ** **** profits.

*** **** ********** **** we ********** ** *** U.S. *** ****** ** favor ** *****-****** ******* goods? **** **** * care ** *****.

*** ***** ************ ********, as ****** * *** times *******, ** ****** next ** *** ****.

Undisclosed #10

05/23/17 09:35am

- ** ***** *** evidence ***** ***** *** not **********?

~*** ***** ********* **** all *** ******, *********, etc. ***** ** ****** costs ** $** - $100 *******. *** **** have **** *** ****** dip *** ***'* *** (you ****** ******* **** ADI ** *** ****** up *** *** ****). You ******* **** *** there's *** * *** of ************ ****** *** the *********** ***** ******** they ****.

****, *** *** **** own ********. *** **** us. ********* ** **** the ***** ***** ******** and ***** ****** ********* plus *** ***, ** you ***** **** ***** make **** **********?

*** *** ***’ ** company ** **** *** profitable ** ***.* **** do **** ********.***** *** following ***********：

*.*** ***** ******** ****** revenue ** *** ** 2016 ** $*.********. *** whole ******** ********* ***** is $*.********.

** *** ***** ****** for *** ***** ******** would ** ****** $*.********=*** million

*.*** *** ** ***** be ****** **%~**% ** the ***** ******** ****** revenue.(you *** *** **** custom **** ** *** other ******** ** ****** confirm, *** **** ****** should ** *****)

** ** ***** *** HiK **' ***** ****** would ** ****** $***-$*** million

*.* ** *** **** the *****&*********&***** **** ** Hik **,*** ** *** above ****** ** *****,$** - $*** *******.

**** ***** *** ** should ***** **********,**** $**~*** million.

**** ***** ****** ******.***** 2013,Hik ** ****** ******* earn *** *****,*** ****** 2013,Hik ** ***** *** profitable.

Undisclosed Integrator #7

In reply to Undisclosed #10 | 05/23/17 10:16am

*** **** ** ** back ** *** ******* board **** ******* *** not **** ***** ** correct.

John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Undisclosed #10 | 05/23/17 11:17am

*** ***** ******** ********* costs ** $*.********.

** *** ***** ******

** ****** **** *** are ********* **** **** operating *****. *** ********* COGS **** ******* ** determine ***** ******. *** did *** *******.

****** ***, **** *** are ***** ** * top **** ******** ***** risks ********** ****** ** you ** **** *** whole ************* ******* ** Hikvision *** ************.

** ** ********* ** separate *** ***** **** branded ***** ***************. *** example, ** ** ****** that *** ************* / loss **** ***** ** UTC ** *** ** Honeywell ** *** ********* than ******* *****. **** in **** **** *** sales *******, ** **********, minimal *****, ********* *** support *****, ***** **** is *** ************** ** the ****.

** ********, *** '***' people, *** *********, *** events, *** ******* *** only ** ******** ** selling ******* ********* **** Hikvision ***, *** *** OEMs. ** *** ******** then ******* - *** much ******* ** ******* Hikvision *** *****? **** what ** **** ***** validated **** ******** ******* is **** **'* ********** low (*** ******** ** Axis ** ********) ********** compared ** *** **** local ******** ***.

********* *** ***** **** are ***** ** ** way **** ********** **** actual ******* *** ****'* a ****** ** ********* pricing ** *** *** running *** ***** *****. For *******, ********* *** may **** **** ***** or ***** ** **** Axis *** **** *** the ******* **** ***** be *** **** ******* of ******* *************. **** is ********* **** ********* profit *** ** ***** it ******** ** **** vast ******* ** ***** but ***** **** *****.

Undisclosed #10

In reply to John Honovich | 05/23/17 12:56pm

*****.** ******* ** *** so ****.*** *****:

*.** ***** ** * use *** ***** ******* word"operating ****"(***** ** *** material&production **** ***** ******,*** i **** ******** **** cogs ** **** ** operating ****)

*** *** ***** ******** gross ****** ********** ****** be *****.*** *** ***** their ****** ***.

*.**** *** ********* *** us **** *****.* *** thought *** ********* **** oem *** *****.

** *** *** *** person *** **** **** for *****?*** *** ***?

John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Undisclosed #10 | 05/23/17 02:22pm

** *** *** *** person *** **** **** for *****?*** *** ***?

***, *** ***, *** or ** ****** ********* USA ***** ** *** branded *****. ** *** Hikvision *** ***** ******, marketing ******, *&* ****, enterprise ****, *** ** college **** **** *** hiring, *** **** *** West *****, *** *** party, *** ** **** is **** *** ******* sales. *** ** ******** and **** *** *********** of *** ********* *** team * **********.

John Honovich

IPVM | 05/23/17 03:19pm

*** *** *** *******, another ***:

* ** ********* ******** if *** ** ****** to ********* ********* **** these *** *** ******* sale ****** ** ** Hikvision ****** **** ** a **** ****.

**** ***'** ***** "#*" you ***'* **** ** resort ** "*** ***** PRICE *****!" **** ***** week.

John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to John Honovich | 05/23/17 11:16pm

***, * *** *** not, ******* ***** ***** because ******** *** "*** HIKVISION ********" **** ** back:

Undisclosed Integrator #12

In reply to John Honovich | 05/25/17 12:50am

**** ** ******* ***. ** ** ****** **** ******* ******** but ********** ********* *** ******* ******* *** ******* ******** *** integrator.

Larry Tracy

In reply to John Honovich | 05/25/17 03:08pm

* ** **** *****'* a **** **** ******** to *** *** **** choose ** ****** *** staff *** ***** *******. They ** * ******* are **** ********** *** in *** *** **** is **** ****** ********** of *** *** ******** floating ******.

*** ***** ******** *** they *** ***** ******* and ******* *** *** attacks *** ******** ***** they ******** ** ** successful. ** ** ** a **** ***** *** I ***** *** *** against ***.

John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Larry Tracy | 05/25/17 03:14pm

*****, ****'* **** **** you ******* ** ** and ********* *** *** have *** ******** *** reasons ** ************ ***** their *** ***** ********** strategies **** ** **********.

******** ******* ** ****** with **** ********** ********* and ********** **** ***** a ******* ***** ******** or **** *****. ** doubt ********* *** **** very **** ****** ********* of *** **** **** China ********** ******** ***** but **** **** *** mean **** **** ** successful ** * ******* business ***************, ***** ******** different ********* *** *******.

Josh Bylsma

BLUEmark Technologies | In reply to Larry Tracy | 05/25/17 03:54pm

***** - ** ***** the ********* **** ** Hik *** **** *********** individuals. * *** *** would ***** ** ** honor ** **** *** conversations **** ****, ** you **** ** ****. However, ** ******* ** executive ** ****** **** making ********. (****: *************** *****)

*** ************ **** ***** out ** ***** ****** culture, **** **** **** consideration *** *** ******** dynamics *** *****. ***** are * ****** ** terms **** ** *** business ***** **** ******* this ****. *************** *** glocalization (***** ****) *** be **** ** ****** this ******** *** ****** companies ** *******.

(******* ***** ******** ** the ***** *************** **********.)

****** ********* **** ***** and ***** ** **** culture **** ******* **. Pushing *** ******** ******** into *** ********, **** not ****!

** *** **** ** Hik, ***** *********** ******* is *** *** '**** doors' ** '***************' (*** to **** **** *** IT ***** ********** **** this), ** ***/** ** HOW **** ******* ***** crises. ** **** ***** of *** *****, ********* the ***** ** * viable ****** ** *********** public *******. *******, ** the ***, *** ** the ******* ****** ******* this ** *** * good ********.

***** **** **** **** different ******* ** **** site, **** ** *********** hoping ** *** **** against ***, *** ********* and ******** ****** ** discredit ****, ***.) * for ***, **** ** this ******** **** * business ***********. **** ******* a ******* ***** * lot ** *****, **** not **** **** *** profitable ** ***** ****** right (*********** ***** ********, **** * *% operational ******). ** ***'* business ***** *** ******** is *** *******, ** will **** ** **** point.

******* ** **** ** the ******* ** **** large, ****** ****, ************* juggernauts ** ********* **** imploded. * ****, ******** specific *******, *****.

Undisclosed #11

05/23/17 11:01pm

*** ******** **** *** specify **** **** ** impact ** ***** ********. So * *** ******** only ******* ***** ******* will ** ******* *** roof. ** ***** ** the *****, ****** * negative ****** *** ***** what *****; *** *** about **** *******.... ***** next *******.

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