Hikvision Hiring 50, Direct Out of College, Sales People

Published Feb 20, 2017 13:50 PM

Hikvision is hiring 50, direct out of college, field sales people across the country.

This is the next major expansion for the Chinese government owned manufacturer and a shift from their previous focus on hiring industry veterans.

Inside this post, Hikvision explains it on video, we examine the job description and analyze the strengths and weaknesses of the move.

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Comments (20)
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Rich Moore
Feb 20, 2017

I don't know what the average age of a surveillance integrator is but I can imagine the conversation going like this:  "What happened to Bob?  You replaced him with a kid my daughter's age?  Bob knew the industry, he knew the products and more importantly, He knew my business."  People do business with people they trust.  

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John Honovich
Feb 20, 2017
IPVM

On the other hand, college grads are the standard workhorses in lots of industries - law, consulting, banking, etc. In the valley, college grads populate SDR roles so popular now in SaaS businesses.

I do agree with you about the risk of going on-site to a surveillance integrator. Usually college grads are there to do the support / busy work and not so much to be the 'lead point of contact' for customers.

We will see. On the positive side, Hikvision will be conducting a multi-million dollar experiment for the industry to see what works.

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Undisclosed Manufacturer #1
Feb 20, 2017

Two points...

1. Hik is not really hiring 50 people for long.  My guess is that they will hire 50, and in 90 days, they'll let 48 go and keep the two diamonds they found.  Classic high pressure boiler room.

2.  $150k total for Veterans?  How in the world do they attract true veterans with that?  Axis could get away with that back in the glory days, but you can make so much more elsewhere. 

-Counterpoint to #2-

I know of one other Top 5 camera manufacturer who recently cut their pay package pretty dramatically, could be a trend.

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Undisclosed #3
Feb 20, 2017

The more exposure to the security industry the better. Retirement to most of the  dinosaur mentality that survived the comet.

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Undisclosed Manufacturer #1
Feb 20, 2017

...and Longsee can now hire ex-Hik Vets!

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Jeremy Ellis
Feb 20, 2017

They are going after the "soft market". They want young professionals to spearhead the brand, not some crusty person that is wearing a 30 year old sport coat that smells of cigarette smoke talking about "high security" jobs he designed in 1984. 

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Rich Moore
Feb 20, 2017

All older sales people don't dress like Herb Tarlek on WKRP in Cincinnati.  Yes, I know I just dated myself.  It's good to have a mix of older and younger sales people.  Older know how to build raport, younger know how to use technology to their advantage.  

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Undisclosed #6
Feb 22, 2017
IPVMU Certified

All older sales people don't dress like Herb Tarlek on WKRP in Cincinnati.

True.  Many dress like Les Nessman.

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John Williams
Feb 21, 2017

Yeah, I hate old people too.

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Undisclosed Manufacturer #2
Feb 20, 2017

I personally have been very pro- hiring right out of college grads for 2 reasons. 1) they are enthusiastic (bright eyes and bushy tailed)  and they are a college grad.  No offense,  but I personally want more college level educated people I the field. 2) people with the right discipline or course transcript will have the it and ip experience that is needed in this field. 

I have seen people moved around a large organization,  who used to sell TVs or printers or whatever,  and come to security and are a fish out of water trying to support or design complex systems and be comfortable with networking,  etc. 

Most university settings,  even without an it major will provide much needed pc experience.... 

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John Honovich
Feb 20, 2017
IPVM

#2, I agree with you about those advantages being valuable. The key thing would be how to get them up to speed on the industry specific issues because that is the downside.

In fairness, most industry salespeople, including Hikvision's RSMs, have been selling and supporting video surveillance for many years, meaning they have lots of relevant / valuable experience to draw from.

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Ari Erenthal
Feb 21, 2017

No offense, but I personally want more college level educated people I the field.

Why?

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Jonathan Lawry
Feb 21, 2017
Trecerdo, LLC

Lately I have seen less correlation between a college degree and maturity/discipline than there once was.  There are some diamonds in the rough, for sure, but the days of a college degree being a dependable proxy for talent and work ethic are in the past.

The only real exception here are high-tier (but not top-tier) engineering schools....places where you go if you couldn't get into Stanford or MIT (think Rensselaer, Carnegie-Mellon, Harvey Mudd...), or any decent university that does not offer liberal arts degrees.

Graduates from those schools tend to by able, hungry (want to prove something against MIT and Stanford), as well as not having been distracted by friends with much easier majors.

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Undisclosed #4
Feb 20, 2017

You leave me no choice Hikvision can have them they will learn that college grads in the US are different that in the East.

Hiring A Millennial

And for the not safe at work but when you hit the "king of Nutcase Millennial's" 

Hiring an SJW

 

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Jon Dillabaugh
Feb 21, 2017
Pro Focus LLC

I know of software companies that do the exact same thing. They hire cheap, pretty people with little or no experience. They churn them fast.

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Norm Dimick
Feb 21, 2017

I believe the term for this type of new hire is Jr. Woodchuck.


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Nick Giannakis
Feb 21, 2017

Hikvision is doing the US physical security market a favor with this initiative. It’s expensive to find and develop young sales talent. Hik has already shown an unmatched tolerance to accept losses. They’re bound to find a few unpolished gems, perhaps more than a few. As several above have noted, turnover will be high in a fresh young sales team with no experience and a steep learning curve. This industry is sticky, perhaps some of the churn sparks potential that flourishes elsewhere.

Honovich said Hik is conducting a multimillion dollar experiment. I see this as a multimillion dollar investment in new talent to our market. To anyone not afraid of competing against millennials, you should be cheering for this expensive talent search.

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John Williams
Feb 21, 2017

The first questions is where's Bob, the second question is what's the price. 

It tough to explain how you upheld American values and lost money. It's called market forces.

I think the only "defense" is to have cameras that are sensors in a security solution that includes Access Control, Intrusion and all the other requirements.

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Undisclosed Integrator #5
Feb 22, 2017

Well I guess the question to ask is how did it work for Avigilon? Last year wasn't there something about hiring sales people with ZERO experience?

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John Honovich
Feb 22, 2017
IPVM

Well I guess the question to ask is how did it work for Avigilon? Last year wasn't there something about hiring sales people with ZERO experience?

Those are typically inside sales people. Axis has a similar approach to inside sales. But with inside sales, those are either cold callers (e.g., Avigilon Is Trying To Sell To Me Direct) or people who handle initial requests and then pass them on to more senior people.

What Hikvision is planning to do here is to have zero experience people be the lead point of contact in the field for customers. That is much more ambitious.