Milestone Drops Hikvision From Elite Partners

By: John Honovich, Published on Feb 11, 2019

Milestone has quietly dropped Hikvision from their 'Elite Partners', less than 3 years after adding the Chinese government-owned mega-manufacturer.

This comes amidst rising criticisms of Hikvision, from mainstream global media and to UK and US elected officials.

Inside this note, we examine:

  • Feedback from Milestone on why they made this move
  • How it does or does not relate to cybersecurity and Hikvision's Chinese government control
  • Hikvision's status with Milestone now
  • What advantages Elite Partners receive
  • Contrast to Genetec's expelling of Hikvision
  • Hikvision's desire to grow partners
  • Hikvision's promotion of its own CMS / VMS
  • How this may impact Hikvision

********* *** ******* ******* Hikvision **** ***** '***** Partners', **** **** * years ***** ****** *** Chinese **********-***** ****-************.

**** ***** ****** ****** criticisms ** *********, **** mainstream ****** ***** ***** ***** ********* *********.

****** **** ****, ** examine:

  • ******** **** ********* ** why **** **** **** move
  • *** ** **** ** does *** ****** ** cybersecurity *** *********'* ******* government *******
  • *********'* ****** **** ********* now
  • **** ********** ***** ******** receive
  • ******** *********'* ********* ** *********
  • *********'* ****** ** **** partners
  • *********'* ********* ** *** own *** / ***
  • *** **** *** ****** Hikvision

[***************]

Feedback **** *********

*********'* *** **ø** **** Eilertsen ********* ** ****, explaining:

** *** ******* **** as ** ********, ******** 13, ****, ********* ** no ****** * ********* Elite ****** *******. ** be ***** * ********* Elite *******, ********* **** demonstrate *********** *****, **************, consulting *** ******* *** Milestone ******* ********* *** consistently **** ********** ** business *********** *** *********. The ********** ******* *** companies *** *** ******* this. *********, *** ******* relationship ******* ********* *** Milestone ******* **** ******** to ******* ** * non-elite *****.

********* *** **** ***** about *** ****, **** the **** ******** ******* sign *** ******** *********'* wordmark *************'* ***** ******* ****.

Cybersecurity *** ******* ********** *******

********* ********* ** ****'* question ***** **** ****** Hikvision's ************* ****** *** Chinese ********** ******* *** on **** ****, ******:

*** ******** ********** ** thoroughly ********* ********, ** don’t ******* ** ******** criteria. ** *** ** course ***** ** *** criticism ** ********* *** we *** ********* *** developments

'********* *** ************' **, minimally, *** ** *********** and ***** ******* ******* 'developments'.

Hikvision ****** **** *********

** *** ******** ****, Hikvision's ******* *** ***** supported ** *********, **** the **** ******* *** same *******. *******, ******* the ********** ** ***** an ***** *******.

Elite ******* **********

********* ********* **** ***** Partners (********** *** ** Axis, *****, ******, *********, and ****) **** *** following **********:

  • ********* ******* ******* ** coordinate *********** **********
  • *********** ****** *********** & test *********
  • ****** ** **** ********* drivers ********* ** ********* using *** ******* ****** API
  • *********** *** ***** ** ******* *** various ********* ********* ********** & ******

********* ***, ** ****, lost ***** **********.

******** **** ****************

*********'* **** **** ** nowhere **** ** ******* as *******'*. ***** **** companies **** ************* ********** and ********** *********'* ********, Genetec ******** * ******* increased ******* *** *** a ******* ****** **** make ********* ******** *********** 'devices *** *****'. ** contast, ********* ** ******* Hikvision ** *** **** level ** ******* ****** manufacturers. ****, ** ******, is ******** ***** *** large ** * ****** manufacturer ********* **.

*********'* ****** ** ************

*** ******* **** ***** this ********** ** **** Hikvision *** **** ******* hard ** **** ********,********* ** ********** ******* program***, **** ******* ******** sources, ***** ***** ********** in ******** *** ********* to ******* (**** ******* and ************ ***** ***). Indeed, ********* ***** * Milestone ******** ** ** their '****** ******* ******** Manager', **** ********** [**** no ****** *********] *** another ********* ******** ** their****** ** ********, **** Erik *******, ** ** ******** Hikvision *** ********** ** understanding *** ************* **** Milestone. ******* ****, ********* has **** *******.

******* *************

********* ******* ** ****'* request *** *******, ********* comment ** *** ******.

******:********* *** *** ********* to ****, ********** ***** role *** ************ **** Milestone:

** ***** ****, ********* developed * **** ****** integration *** ********* ******** based ** *********'* *********** protocol. **** **** ************ be ********* *** ********** by ********* *** ******** the **** **** * much ****** *********** **** standard *********, ** **** as *********** ******* *** a ***** ***** ** Hikvision ******** **** **** cameras. *** ****** ** status **** *** ****** the ***** ** ***********.

********* ** ********** *** own *****, *** *** for **** **** * year *** **** ********* on ********* **** *********. Hence, *** ****** ** status **** *** ****** the **** ****, **** or ********.

** ********, ********* *** developed * ****** ** plugins **** ******* *********** needs; **** ** ****, fisheye *********, ****** ******* etc. ***** **** ************ be ********* *** ********** by *********. *****, ** change ** *** ***** of *********** ** ********* products ** ********* ********.

********* *** ******** ****** the ********* ****** ******* program *** **** ** launching *** ***** ******** most ****** *** ** Q1 ****. ********* ****** the **** ***** ** support **** ********* ** any ***** ****** *******. The ****** ** ****** does *** ****** **** program.

*** ********* *** ********* to *********, ********** *********'* statement:

** *** ******* **** the ******* ****** ************ do *** ****** ** this **** *** ****** pack **.* **** ****** in ****** ** **.

**** *** ****** ** HikVision’s ******* ****** ***** a **** ******** ******** to *********** ** *** HikVision ****** ***** *************** and ***** *********** **** be *********** **** *** features.

*********’* ****** ******* ******* is **** ** *** hardware ************* ********** ** ability *** **** ** ship ***** ******** **** a ***** ** ***, free ******* ** ********* software ****** *********. **** the ****** ******* ******* the ******** ************ ******* no ************ ****** ** software ******** *** ****** alter *** ******** ** any ***. ****** *** customer **** ** ******* from * **** ** a **** ******* ** the ***, *** ******** follows *********’* ************ ******* and ******** *****.

********* ********* *** *** CMS /***

*** ***** ** ****** that ********* *** **** favored ******* ***** *** products **** ******* **** Milestone **** *********'* *** appliances *** ***, ************, HikCentral, ***** ** *** US *** *** ** Europe. ********* ********* ******* HikCentral ** **** * 'CMS' *** **** ******** as ** '**** ********' 'VMS', ** **** ********* Europe********* *****:

*** **** *********'* ********* of ********* ******** **** Milestone ******** ** ** Milestone's ******** ** *******. On *** *** ****, almost ** *** *********'* current ***** ******** **** their *** ***** ****** Hikvision *** **** ************ aggressive ** ********* ***** own.

Impact ** *********

*** **** **** *** Hikvision ** **** ********* is ** *** (******** in *******, **** ** thousands ** ******** *********) that ** ***** ** other *******. *** *******, Hikvision's ****** ******** ******* is ~*** ******* (*** 60% ****** *** ****%) than *********. *** **** that ********* ******* **** Milestone ** ******* *** possibly ** **** ** for ** ******** **** a ******** ** *********'* revenue.

*** **** **** ** that, ** * ********** market, *** ** * Western ***** ***** ********* is ************ **********, ********* needs ******** **** **** stand ** ****, ********** not **** ***** ******** but ***** ***** *** marketing *******. ********* ** easily *** ** *** most **** ***** *** the **** ****** ********, so ****** ***** ****** from ********* **** **** concerns *** ******** ******** to *** ********* ******* government-owned ************.

Comments (44)

Undisclosed Distributor #1

02/11/19 02:31pm

*'* *** ***** ** lie (******** * ** going ** ** *********, because *'* *********** ** what *'* ***** ** say). **** ******* ******* Hikvision, * ******* **** were ***** * ****** overdramatic. *** * **** other *** ************* *** followed ****. 

Undisclosed Distributor #2

02/11/19 03:31pm

**** ******** ** ********... That's * ****** ** internet ****. ;-)

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Jonathan de Chateau

02/11/19 03:51pm

* ** ******* ** Milestone **** ***** * statement **** *** ****** why *** ******* ***.

** ***** ** *** same ****** ** *******, it ***** **** ** because *** ** ****** to ** ******** **** HikCentral. * ********** **'* not * ********** ******* today, *** ** ****** they ***** ** ***********.

****** ***, ********* ** struggeling. * ***'* *** any ***** ****** ** distribute ********
*********+ * ******* ******** free ** ******. **'* so **** **** **** to **** ** ****.

 

John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Jonathan de Chateau | 02/11/19 03:59pm

****** ***, ********* ** struggeling. * ***'* *** any ***** ****** ** distribute ********
*********+ * ******* ******** free ** ******. **'* so **** **** **** to **** ** ****.

*** *** *******!

********* ***** **** ****-****. Hikvision ***** ******* *** far **** **** ****. Hikvision ***** **** *** far **** **** *********. Jonathan's ********: ********* ** doing *****.

********* ***** **** * channel ******** ***** ******* everything **** *** * premium. ********'* ********: ********* is **********.

* ** ******* ** Milestone **** ***** * statement **** *** ****** why *** ******* ***.

********* **** *** **** 2 ****** *** ******* issuing *** *********. **** only ********* ** ** after ** ******* *** to ****. * ***** they *** ***** ** get **** **** *******.

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Jonathan de Chateau

In reply to John Honovich | 02/11/19 04:03pm

********* ******* ** * different ********** ** ******* story. *** ** ***** is *** ***, * get ****** ** ***** offering ** * *** cheaper *****, *** **** a *** **** ****** :).

********** ** *** ****. It ** ***** ** be * **** ***, like *********.

* **** **** ** free, *** **'* **** all ********: *** *** some ***** ***. ** the **** ** ********* they **** ** *** of *** ****** *****.

*** ** ********* ****** any ***** ** *** free *******?

 

John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Jonathan de Chateau | 02/11/19 04:08pm

********* ******* ** * different ********** ** ******* story.

***, **'* * ***** 'story'. ********* ***** ********** at * ********. ********* gives * ******** ** just * ******* ***** level ********.

** ********* *** ***** so ***** *** ****** so ****** ****** **, they ***** ***** ***** prices *** **** **** money.

*** ** ********* ****** any ***** ** *** free *******?

**'* ********* ******** **'* **** ****** the *****. *** **** away * ******* *****-***** version ** *** ****** familiar **** **** ******** and **** ****** **** more ** **** *** familiar *** *** *** value ** **** ********.

*** ********* ***** ** putting ********** ** ****, almost ***** ***, ** less *******.

Undisclosed Integrator #3

In reply to Jonathan de Chateau | 02/11/19 04:59pm

*** ** ********* ****** any ***** ** *** free *******?

********* *** **** *** a **** ******* ***** 2010.  ** **** ** be ******* ** * very *** ********* ********.  The **** ******* *** supports ** ** * cameras **** ****, ****** very *****-***** (***/*** *****) features.  ********* ** *** looking ** ******** *** residential *** *** ******* market **** *********.  *** the *****-***** ****** **** have *** **** ******* to **** *** ******** for ********* * *** more *******.  ** *** have * ******* *** upgrade ** * *** likely *** *** ** remove *** ***********/*** ** swap ** ** *** versus **** ****** *** small ********* ****?

* ******* ********* *** their ****** *** **** I ** ************ **** it *** *** ***** further.

Undisclosed #4

In reply to Jonathan de Chateau | 02/11/19 05:15pm

...**** ** ****, *** it's **** *** ********: you *** **** ***** way. ** *** **** of ********* **** **** it *** ** *** camera *****.

**, **** ** ***** ****** ...*** ***** *******?

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Jon Dillabaugh

Pro Focus LLC | In reply to Undisclosed #4 | 02/11/19 05:45pm

* ***'* *** **** value ** *** ** the ****-**** *******. * think *** *** ******* though, ** ***** ** the ***** ********, *** loss ******.

Undisclosed Integrator #6

In reply to Jonathan de Chateau | 02/11/19 07:05pm

*** ** ***** ** the ***, * *** plenty ** ***** ******** me * *** ******* stuff, *** **** * lot **** ****** :)

 

******** **** ***?

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Jon Dillabaugh

Pro Focus LLC | In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #6 | 02/11/19 07:10pm

** *** ***** ********* is *** ****** ** the ******, *** ***’* know *** ****** ****. Hikvision ** *** **** of *** ******* ************* that * **** ***** IMO.

Undisclosed Integrator #3

In reply to Jon Dillabaugh | 02/11/19 07:16pm

********* ** ******* ** *** ******* manufacturers**** * **** ***** IMO.

***** ** ** ****** on ****.  ********* ********** wins *** *** *** contest.

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Jon Dillabaugh

Pro Focus LLC | In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #3 | 02/11/19 07:19pm

**** ** ******** “********* wins *** *** *** contest”?

*** **** **** ** have * ********* ******* on ********* ** *** definition ** * ******. 🤷🏻‍♂️

Undisclosed Integrator #3

In reply to Jon Dillabaugh | 02/11/19 07:34pm

**** ** ******** “********* wins *** *** *** contest”?

"**** ** *** ******* manufacturers"

*** *** * ********* and * ***** **** it.  **** ********* ********* to *****, *******, ******, etc **'* *** ******* a **** *****.  ** you **** **** ********* compared **** ******* ****, Bosch, *********, ** ******** without ****** * ************ *** ********* ** ***** **** a ******.

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Jon Dillabaugh

Pro Focus LLC | In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #3 | 02/11/19 07:36pm

* ***** **** ********* wasn’t ***** ** **. I **** ** ** an ************* ******. ** B

Undisclosed #4

In reply to Jon Dillabaugh | 02/11/19 07:56pm

*****, ***’** ***** ** accept **** *** ** the *** ** *** bottom ** *** ******? ;)

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Jon Dillabaugh

Pro Focus LLC | In reply to Undisclosed #4 | 02/11/19 08:00pm

*** ***. **** *** undefeated ** *** *** end ******. **** *** to ****** ** *** middle ***** ** *** market *** **** * lot ** ***** **** the ***** ** ****. Sadly ***** ********* ************ will **** **** **** from *********. *** ** not **** *** ***** gov *********, **** /*****/ have **** *** **** ever. ** ***** **** taken * *** ** the ******** *********** **** to *** *****. *** I ***’* ***** ****’* even ******** ** **** point, *** ** **** being * ***** ***** for ****. *** ******** involved ***’* ****** **** my ********** ** *** quality ** ***** ********. 

John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Jon Dillabaugh | 02/12/19 12:07am

*** ** *** **** for ***** *** *********, they /*****/ **** **** the **** ****. 

*** ** *** **** for ***** ********** *********, they ***** ***** **** the ********* ** ** what **** **** ****. And **** **** *** Chinese ********** *** ***** "10,000+ *&* *********" **** is ***** ****** ** overall camera ******* *** ******* and ********* *** ***** better ** ******* *** performance, **** * ******** of *********'* *********.

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Jon Dillabaugh

Pro Focus LLC | In reply to John Honovich | 02/12/19 12:26am

***** *** ***** ******, but * ****** *** much ** * **** start ****, *********, *** Genetec *** ************, *** the ******* ***** ** general?

** ***** ***** **** of *** ******* ***** make **** ********* ******** when ******** ** ******* brands, ********** ********. **** Russians **** ****** ********, so **’* *** ** western **** *******. *** Japanese *** ******* **** make ********* ********, ** it’s *** ** ***** deficiency.

John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Jon Dillabaugh | 02/12/19 12:33am

* ****** *** **** of * **** ***** Axis, *********, *** ******* had ************, *** *** western ***** ** *******?

********* *** ******* ** 2001, ** **'* * fairly *** *******. *******, on *** ********, *** could ***** **** ***** was ******* **** ******** back ****. ******, *** counter ** **** ** that ********* *** *** so **** **** ******* "R&D *********" **** ****, Milestone, and ******* ******** *** **** years *** *** ***** does *** ***** ***** overall ******* / ***********.

***'* *** **** **. Hikvision *** ***** **** so **** ********** **** - *****, *****, **** of **** *** ******. If ***** *********** *** really ****** ***** ***** they ****** ***** ********, Axis, *******, *********, ***. So *** ***** *** Hikvision's ** *** **** embarrassing *** ** ***** improve.

Undisclosed #4

In reply to Jon Dillabaugh | 02/12/19 02:07am

...**** ** *** ******* firms **** **** ********* products **** ******** ** western ******, ********** ********. Even ******** **** ****** software, ** **’* *** an ******* **** *******. The ******** *** ******* also **** ********* ********, so **’* *** ** Asian **********.

********* ******* ********** **** 

“*********** ** *********: ********* the ****** ** ********* on ******** *******”, *** **********, ****

Undisclosed #4

In reply to Jon Dillabaugh | 03/22/19 05:02am

** ***** ***** **** of *** ******* ***** make **** ********* ******** when ******** ** ******* brands, ********** ********. **** Russians **** ****** ********, so **’* *** ** western **** *******. *** Japanese *** ******* **** make ********* ********, ** it’s *** ** ***** deficiency.

****! *.*. *** ***** all *****...

**********:

*******: *** *** ****?

Dennis Ruban

In reply to Undisclosed #4 | 03/22/19 02:29pm

*********** **********. **** ****, in ******, ** *** an ********** "****** ****". I *** ********* **** Canadians ***'* *** ****, they **** *** *** polite :)

* ***** *** ********** the *******.

Dennis Ruban

In reply to Jonathan de Chateau | 02/25/19 04:00pm

** ** ****, ********** has *** **** *-****** free *******.

******* ***** ******** ** Hikcentral: * ***'* ********** why *** ****** ********* on *** *********** ******* of ****** * ********** established ********. ********* ** VMS *** *** ******** would ** * ***** combination.

John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Dennis Ruban | 02/25/19 04:11pm

* ***'* ********** *** Hik ****** ********* ** VMS *********** ******* ** buying * ********** *********** business. ********* ** *** and *** ******** ***** be * ***** ***********.

* *** ***** ***, numerous ******** **** ********* tried ** ******** *********. My ************* ** **** they *** *** ***** enough, ****** ***** ***** were ***** ******.

** **** ****** ** a **** **** ****** went ******* - ***** * ********* / Pelco **** **** *****?

********* *** **** **** a ****** ***-******* *********** I ** ***** ** - ********* ******** ***** ************ Pyronix. ** ***** **** favor ******** ***********. 

*** ***** ***** ***** be ********* ******** ** buying ******* ******** *************. This ***** ****** ** the ******* *** ***** might ** * ******** in *** ****** ** Denmark ** * ******* government ****** ****** * company. ***** ***** *** get *******, *.*.,****** ****** ******* ******** of ************ **** ** Security ********

Undisclosed Manufacturer #9

In reply to Jonathan de Chateau | 02/12/19 04:49am

**** *** **** * reason "** ** ***** a ********* ***** *******, companies **** *********** *********** sales, **************, ********** *** support *** ********* ******* solutions *** ************ **** excellence ** ******** *********** and *********."

*** ***** ** **** 'their' ***** (***** ** actually ****** **** *****) and ******* **** ** their *** ******* **** mutual *********** *********. *** uncommon ** **** ********, and ********* ****, *** probably *** ***** ******* type **********.

* **** ** ********* (lower *****, ** ********** NOT ** *** ****) but * *** ******** say **** ********* **** Milestone ****** ** ** focused ** ********** ************ and ****** *******. **** with ****** ***********!! * love **** ***** *********.

***, *** ****** ******, believe **** **** ** thinking ** * ******* and **** ** ****** be "***********", *** **** my *********** **** **** of ******** *** ****** incredible *******, ** ******* culture (**** ******* ******* the *******), *** **** sometimes ******* ** ** an ******** ****** ** future *************.

*** ***** * *** guarantee ** **** *** decision *** *** **** because *** *** * competitive *******. **** (*********) **** ** *** think **** ***, ** all.

* **** ***** *** free *********+ ** *******!

John Honovich

IPVM | 02/11/19 06:08pm

********* *** *** ********* to ****, ********** ***** role *** ************ **** Milestone:

** ***** ****, ********* developed * **** ****** integration *** ********* ******** based ** *********'* *********** protocol. **** **** ************ be ********* *** ********** by ********* *** ******** the **** **** * much ****** *********** **** standard *********, ** **** as *********** ******* *** a ***** ***** ** Hikvision ******** **** **** cameras. *** ****** ** status **** *** ****** the ***** ** ***********.

********* ** ********** *** own *****, *** *** for **** **** * year *** **** ********* on ********* **** *********. Hence, *** ****** ** status **** *** ****** the **** ****, **** or ********.

** ********, ********* *** developed * ****** ** plugins **** ******* *********** needs; **** ** ****, fisheye *********, ****** ******* etc. ***** **** ************ be ********* *** ********** by *********. *****, ** change ** *** ***** of *********** ** ********* products ** ********* ********.

********* *** ******** ****** the ********* ****** ******* program *** **** ** launching *** ***** ******** most ****** *** ** Q1 ****. ********* ****** the **** ***** ** support **** ********* ** any ***** ****** *******. The ****** ** ****** does *** ****** **** program.

****: ************ ****** ******* ********* *** ******* *********'* VMS ** *** ***** hardware, **** ** *********.

** ** **** **** Hikvision *** ****** ** respond **** *** ********* we **** ********** **** to **. ** **** to ***** ***** ***********.

John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to John Honovich | 02/11/19 11:56pm

*** ********* *** ********* to *********, ********** *********'* statement:

** *** ******* **** the ******* ****** ************ do *** ****** ** this **** *** ****** pack **.* **** ****** in ****** ** **. 

**** *** ****** ** HikVision’s ******* ****** ***** a **** ******** ******** to *********** ** *** HikVision ****** ***** *************** and ***** *********** **** be *********** **** *** features. 

*********’* ****** ******* ******* is **** ** *** hardware ************* ********** ** ability *** **** ** ship ***** ******** **** a ***** ** ***, free ******* ** ********* software ****** *********. **** the ****** ******* ******* the ******** ************ ******* no ************ ****** ** software ******** *** ****** alter *** ******** ** any ***. ****** *** ******** want ** ******* **** a **** ** * paid ******* ** *** VMS, *** ******** ******* Milestone’s ************ ******* *** purchase *****.

Undisclosed Integrator #5

02/11/19 06:18pm

*** **** ** ********** side. ***** **** ***** installers ********* *** ** interest, *********** *** *** program *** ****** **** than * ******* *** twitter **** ****.

********* ****** **** **** friends ***** *** **** enemies ******. **** **** an ********* ***** ** view **** ***** ****** "un-open" **** ***** *** Axis *** **** ** your *** ******..

********** *** ** *** industry ** ** ******* open ********, ** **** cant **** ****** **** clean **. **** ***** across **** ***'* ****** in ***** *************, *** pick *** ** **** I **** *** *** drop *** **** ***.. My *** *** **** be ******* *** *** make **, ********* ***'* going ****.

 

 

 

Undisclosed Integrator #3

In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #5 | 02/11/19 07:13pm

*******, *** ******** **? 

Undisclosed #4

In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #3 | 02/11/19 08:04pm

****, *** **.  

*** *** ** *********, mainly ***** **** **********.

 

Undisclosed #8

In reply to Undisclosed #4 | 02/11/19 08:14pm

***** *******?

Undisclosed Integrator #3

In reply to Undisclosed #4 | 02/12/19 12:11am

*** *** ** *********, mainly ***** **** **********

****'* **** ** ***** off *** ****.  ***** are ***** ****** ****** ellipsis ** ******** *******.  Definitely *** ****** ******.

**** ********* ****** * right ****.

Undisclosed Manufacturer #7

In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #5 | 02/11/19 07:30pm

**** *** *** ** going **** *******...*** **** DEFINITELY *** ***** **** in *** **** *** of *** ******.

Undisclosed Integrator #3

In reply to Undisclosed Manufacturer #7 | 02/12/19 12:26am

**** *** *** ** going **** *******...*** **** DEFINITELY *** ***** **** in *** **** *** of *** ******.

* ***** **** **** not ****** **** **** in *** **** *** of *** ******.  * have ** ***** ********* made *********** ******** ** large ****** *********/********** ******** where ***** ***** *** day *** ******* *** generally **********. 

** *** ******* ****** the **** ******** ** our ********* **** *** heard ** ***.  *** few **** **** **** have ********* ****** ********.  The ****** *** ** that ******* * ****** into ** ********** *********** involves ****** **** **** rental, ****** ****** ***** technicians, ******* *****/***** *********/***, surge **********, **** ** shift *******, * *********** amount ** *******, *** ground ********.  **** *** are ****** $**-$*** ** have * ****** ********* saving $***-$*** ** *** camera ***** **** ******.  Add ** *** ** the ******** ***** *** there **** *** **** be *** ******** ** the ******* ** *** large ********.

Undisclosed Manufacturer #10

02/12/19 05:03am

**** *** **** * fun ******** ** ****. However, * ***** *** Milestone ***** ****** ******* program *** **** ***** out ** **********. **** Milestone *********** ***'* **** Milestone ******** ***** ** who *** *** **** elite ****** ******** ***** are. **** ********* *** users ***'* **** **** who *** ***** ****** partners *** *** ** purchase ***** *** **** list. *** ** **** Milestone *** *** *********, nothing ** ****** ******** in ***** ** ********* of *** ******* ***** Hik ** ***** ********** as ** **** **** an *****. ** ***** words, *** ***, *** Milestone ***** ****** ******* program ****'* *** *** tangible ***** *** *** party ******** ** *** Hik / ********* ***********.  

Undisclosed #8

In reply to Undisclosed Manufacturer #10 | 02/12/19 05:04am

$*** ** ****** ******* to *** * $** Wyze ******. ***** **** to **.

Undisclosed Manufacturer #10

In reply to Undisclosed #8 | 02/13/19 03:45am

*'* ******* **** ******* :-)

***** ** ***: *** bring ** * **** point. *'* ** ******* to **** **** **** ideal ******* ** ****** cost ***** **? $*** license ** $** ****** seems *** ** ***** for **** ** **** is * **:* *****. What ***** ** **** fair? 

****** ** ***: **** is *** ** **** camera (** ***** ** RTSP) ** ** ******'* connect ** ** ********** level *** ******. 

Undisclosed #8

In reply to Undisclosed Manufacturer #10 | 02/13/19 06:42am

*** *** ******* ** the ******* ***%.

* **** ** ***** for ******** * ******* pricing ***** *** *********** camera ******** ***** ** what ****** ******* ******* systems **** ** *****, Salient, ********, *********, *****, VideoEdge ***.

******* ** * **** to ******* ** ***** systems. ** * **** to ******* ** ****** SSA/SUP ******* ******* ***; Lighting *******, **** *******, Telephony(IP) *******, ***** *******, AV *******? ******* ***** costs *** ******** *** unknowable, *** **** ** comes ** ******** ** is ** ******* *********. Wrong ** ***** * cannot ** *** *** that ******** * ***** that ******** ******* *** all.

****** **** **, * grew ** **** ****** Unix / ***** ******. I ******* *** *********** should ** **** ** well ** *** ****** to **** **** ******** of ***********. * ***** build ******* *** ****** people *** *** *** BS, *** **** **** inside * **** ** all ** ***.

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****: **** ** *** first **** * **** been * **#*....*******!

 

 

Undisclosed Manufacturer #11

02/12/19 08:20am

** *** *** ** the *** **** ** very **** ***** *** optics ... *** ****** is ************ ******* *** press *** **** **** have * ***** *** long **** ******** ****** on *** ******* ******** in *** ****** , from * ******** *********** we *** ****** *********** push **** ** *** .The ******* ********* ** have ** ****** ** pick ** *** ****** after *** ******** ** driving *** ****** ** the ****** ****** *********** .... *** ****** **** selling ** ***** ***** that's *** ******* !! 

Undisclosed Integrator #3

In reply to Undisclosed Manufacturer #11 | 02/13/19 03:30am

** *** *** ** the *** **** ** very **** ***** *** optics ... *** ****** is ************ ******* *** press

**** ** **** *** is **** ** ***** home ****** ***** *** government *** ******** ******* of *** ***** *** social ***** *******.  ***** that ********** **** **** controlling ****** ** *** there ** ** **** threat ** **** **** being ********* *****.  *** policy ** *** ******** about ****** ** ***** does *** ***** ******* of *****.  ***** ** a ******** ***** **** is **** ********.

John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #3 | 02/13/19 01:29pm

*** ****** ** *** worrying ***** ****** ** China **** *** ***** outside ** *****. ***** is * ******** ***** that ** **** ********.

********* ** ********* ***** of **** *******. ****'* why, *.*., ********* **** **** *******(*** ********** ****** ** Milestone).

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***, ** ******** ** them, ** * ***** in *** ******'* ******** of *****, *'* ** understandably ******* **** ******** I **** ** ******** was ********* ** *** China ********* ***** ** a ********* ***** ***** critics ********* *********, *** beaten ** **** *** of *******,*** ** '**********'.

Chris Chambers

In reply to Undisclosed Manufacturer #11 | 03/22/19 07:12am

**** ***** ** *** beginning ** *** ***?  Or *** ****** ** the ***?

 

Undisclosed #4

In reply to Chris Chambers | 03/22/19 10:07am

**** ***** ** *** beginning ** *** ***?

**’* ******* *** ******* New **** ** ************ ahead ** *******, ** the ********* ** ***** day ** *** *** of **** *** **** versa.

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