Law Breaking Longse Enters USA

Author: Brian Karas, Published on Nov 22, 2017

Longse has established itself as world class, at least in spamming the industry, ripping off Milestone and Video Insight as well as Hikvision.

But they have always done so safely hidden away in China.

Now, they have entered the USA:

In this note, we examine the risks involved and the potential opportunity

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** * ********** ** ******* ****** *******, *********** ****** ************* ******* ******. ******* ***** *******, ************ in ****** *** ********, *** * **** ***** ********* *** Dahua. *******, ******* *** ************* ******* **** *********** ********* ** Dahua *******, **** ** ****** **** ***** **********, ****** *** products *********** ********** *** ***-****** ********. *******, * ** ****** would ********* ******** *****, ***** ***** ****** ****** *******.

Challenges ******

**** **** * ** ******, ****** **** ***** **** ******* challenges ** ********* ** *** ** ************ ******. ******* ********** funding **** *********, ** ** ******* ***** ****** ******** **** Dahua, ****** **** ** ******* ** ***** ******* ** ***** out * ***** ***** ********. **** ***** *********** ***** *****, though *** ******* *** ********* ******** ** * *** **** indicates **** ****** ** **** ******* *********** ******* ********** ** debt. ****, ******'* ****-**-****** ******** ***** **** ****** ***** **** integrators ** *** **** ******** *** ******* ** *** ***** point ** *********** *****.

Legal *****

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Comments (55)

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Sean Nelson

Nelly Security | 11/22/17 03:29pm

* *** *** ***** **** **** ** **** ** ****. They **** **** **** **** ** ******** "******" ******* ********* in *** ***.

Undisclosed Integrator #1

11/22/17 03:36pm

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Undisclosed Manufacturer #2

11/22/17 03:42pm

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Rich Moore

In reply to Undisclosed Manufacturer #2 | 11/22/17 04:06pm

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Undisclosed Integrator #1

In reply to Undisclosed Manufacturer #2 | 11/22/17 04:09pm

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Undisclosed #3

11/22/17 04:55pm

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Brian Karas

IPVM | 11/22/17 06:31pm

****** -

**** ******** ************ **** *** ******** ** ******** ***** ** Longse. ******* ****** ** ******* ****:

*** ******* ************** ********* *** ****** ******** **** **** ******. ** ****** Tax ******** **** ***** *** ******** *********** ********* *** **** ***** $**. ** ******* ** ** ****** ***** *** ******** ***** as "****** *** ***".

Undisclosed #3

In reply to Brian Karas | 11/22/17 06:43pm

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Jon Dillabaugh

Pro Focus LLC | In reply to Undisclosed #3 | 11/27/17 01:12pm

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Undisclosed #3

In reply to Jon Dillabaugh | 11/27/17 03:29pm

*** **** **** **** **** ***** *** ****** **** **** much ***** **** *** ******** ******?

************.

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Joseph Marotta

IPVMU Certified | In reply to Jon Dillabaugh | 12/01/17 07:23pm

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Brian Karas

IPVM | In reply to Joseph Marotta | 12/01/17 07:28pm

** ** ********** *** * *** ********. **** * ****** at *** *******, * ******* ** *** ***** ** *** 90's.

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Sean Nelson

Nelly Security | 11/22/17 06:42pm

*'** ****** ******* **** ** ****** ***** ******* **** ***** GUI's *** ******** **********, **** **** ***** ** * **** threat ** **** ** **** *** **** ***** ****** *** same.

Undisclosed #3

In reply to Sean Nelson | 11/22/17 08:45pm

*'** ****** ******* **** ** ****** ***** ******* **** ***** GUI's *** ******** **********...

* ***** **** ******* *** ***** **** ************ ********* ;)

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Sean Nelson

Nelly Security | In reply to Undisclosed #3 | 11/22/17 09:20pm

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John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Sean Nelson | 11/22/17 10:08pm

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Sean Nelson

Nelly Security | In reply to John Honovich | 11/22/17 10:32pm

*** ****** ***** ****. ** ****** ** **** ** ***** but ***% **** ** **** *** ****. *** ***** ** it ** **** ** ********* *****. * ***** ****** **** Hik ***** **** *** ***** ** **** ** **** ******* though.

Undisclosed #3

In reply to Sean Nelson | 11/23/17 01:51am

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John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Undisclosed #3 | 11/23/17 02:12am

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Undisclosed #3

In reply to John Honovich | 11/23/17 02:58am

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Undisclosed Manufacturer #8

In reply to Sean Nelson | 11/27/17 05:25pm

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In reply to Sean Nelson | 11/27/17 04:15pm

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Undisclosed Manufacturer #4

11/22/17 08:40pm

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Undisclosed #3

In reply to Undisclosed Manufacturer #4 | 11/22/17 08:41pm

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Undisclosed Integrator #1

In reply to Undisclosed Manufacturer #4 | 11/22/17 09:27pm

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Undisclosed Manufacturer #6

In reply to Undisclosed Manufacturer #4 | 11/24/17 03:37am

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John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Undisclosed Manufacturer #6 | 11/24/17 04:25am

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Undisclosed #3

11/22/17 09:36pm

Undisclosed #5

11/23/17 02:47am

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John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Undisclosed #5 | 11/23/17 02:55am

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Undisclosed Manufacturer #9

11/27/17 06:19pm

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John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Undisclosed Manufacturer #9 | 11/27/17 10:03pm

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Undisclosed Manufacturer #9

In reply to John Honovich | 11/27/17 10:20pm

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John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Undisclosed Manufacturer #9 | 11/27/17 10:28pm

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Undisclosed Manufacturer #10

In reply to John Honovich | 11/28/17 03:14am

***** ****'* *** ****?

John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Undisclosed Manufacturer #10 | 11/28/17 11:58am

** ***** ** **** *** **** *** **** ***** ** a ******* ** ***** **** ** ********* ***** ************ ** listed ** ****** ***** (*.*., **** ************, *** **** ****).

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Kelly WU

12/01/17 07:05am

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Undisclosed #3

In reply to Kelly WU | 12/01/17 09:24am

** *****!

***** *** **** ******* ********** *** *** *** ****** ** comparison ** *** **** ******** ******* ****** (** *** **), Hik *** *****?

************ ** ******* ** *******, ************ *****, ******* **********, ******** and ******* ***.

******!

John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Kelly WU | 12/01/17 11:59am

******** ***** ****, ****, ****** ******* **** **** ******* ** US *********, *** ***** ****** *** ******* **send ***** **** ***** **** *** ** ******** **** *** *** *** ********* *** *** ****** **** *** ********. [emphasis added]

*****, *** *** *** *********** *** '*****' **** ********? *** are *** ******* ********** **** ***** ****** *****? ** **** Longse **** ***** ********** ****** **** ****** *** **** ***** needs **** ********?

*** * *** ** **** ****** *** ***** *** ********* any *** ** ***-***, *.*., **** *** **** *** ****** from ****:

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Undisclosed #3

In reply to John Honovich | 12/01/17 07:57pm

*****, *** *** *** *********** *** '*****' **** ********?

**** *****. **** **** **** **** **** ** **** ******** regardless ** *** ********** ** ******** *******?

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Max Shumeyko

In reply to Undisclosed #3 | 12/04/17 02:48pm

* ***** **** ******** *** *** ******** *** **** ** security ********. *** **** **** **** ***.

** *** *********** ****, * ***** * ****** ** ** email ****** "**** ******* ** *****" *** ****** *** *** about ** ***** ******* ********* *** **** ******* ******** ******** without ****** *********** ****: *******, ******, *********, *********, ***** ...

Undisclosed Integrator #1

In reply to Max Shumeyko | 12/04/17 03:16pm

***** ***** ** **** ******* **** * ************* **** *** community *********** ** *** ****** ***** *** ** ********* ** spamming ******** *************.... :)

John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to John Honovich | 12/08/17 09:34am

*****,

**'* ********* ***** - **** ****** ****:

*** *****:

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****: ******.** (*** ****** *** **** ** ***** **** ****) is ********** ** ***, *** ***** ** ******.

** ***'* **** ** *** *** **** **** *** ***'* appreciate ***** *******, *** ***** ** ***@**.***

Undisclosed #3

In reply to John Honovich | 12/08/17 11:02am

** ***'* **** ** *** *** **** **** *** ***'* appreciate ***** *******, *** ***** ** ***@**.***

****. * **** **** *** * ***** ** **** **** ;)

Undisclosed Manufacturer #6

In reply to John Honovich | 12/13/17 01:10am

***** ***** ** ** ****** ***** *** **** ****** ******* and ******* ********* ****** ** *** ** ****! *** ********* I'm *** ****, *** ***** ** ***** ***** ** ******* around *** ***** **** ***** ****** ***** **** ******.

*****://***.*******.***/**********.*****

John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to John Honovich | 12/25/17 03:12am

**** ****** **** - ********* *******:

John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to John Honovich | 01/25/18 12:45pm

**** ****** ****, **** **** **** **** ** ** "*****?@****.***":

** ****** *** *** *****, **** ***** ** ***********. *****, anything ** *** ****?

Undisclosed Integrator #1

In reply to John Honovich | 01/25/18 12:52pm

*****, "** ***** * *** *** **** *** *** *******, or ***?"

John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to John Honovich | 02/06/18 05:16pm

*** **** ****** ****, **** **** ***** *********:

John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to John Honovich | 03/01/18 01:37pm

***'* **** ***** **** **** ******** '*****@****.***' ** ******* ** never *** ** *******. ***, ** ** ******* ** ****** of *******:

**** ** ******.

Undisclosed Integrator #1

In reply to John Honovich | 03/01/18 01:46pm

*** *** ***** ** ******** ***** ****** ******* ***** *** office?

John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #1 | 03/01/18 02:09pm

** ***** **** **** * ***** *** ****** ****** * am *** **** **** **** **** ****** **.

******** ***** ********* ********* ********* ** ******** *** **** ********* thing ** ***** **.

Undisclosed #3

In reply to John Honovich | 03/01/18 03:08pm

** ***** **** **** * ***** *** ****** ****** * am *** **** **** **** **** ****** **.

** ***** ********* ** ** **** ***** ***** ****...

Undisclosed Manufacturer #6

12/04/17 11:35pm

* ***'* **** ** ** ** ********* *** ******* ***** Commission *** * **** ********* *******. *****://***.*********************.***/**************?*******=***&***=%**%********-*#****

****@***.*** ** ** **** ****** **** ***** **** ** *******, but *** **** ***** *** *** **** **** **** ** answer *** ***** *******. (********!)

John Honovich

IPVM | 07/24/18 06:10pm

******: ****** *** *********** ***, *** ********** ****** ** ******* ****, ** ** ***** USA ***** *******.

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