Longse Spam

By John Honovich, Published Apr 15, 2016, 09:48am EDT (Info+)

Longse is truly one of the most amazing video surveillance manufacturers in the world. 

Disruptive in both senses of the term.

We met with Longse at ISC West, learning more about their practices. In this note, we examine the innovation and the spam.

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Comments (15)

Itamar Kerbel

04/15/16 05:15pm

I tested the cameras in 2014, which is a lifetime in our industry...

While the image quality was fine by day the night was very bad.

On the other hand the housings were very good.

We did sell a couple cheap plastic outdoor PTZ's and the fail rate was not high....

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Undisclosed Manufacturer #1

04/17/16 03:10am

If what these companies are doing is illegal, where can you report them in China? As if that is going to do something. Somehow they seem to have gone out of their way to circumvent mail filters since they email from different domains and addresses.

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John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Undisclosed Manufacturer #1 | 04/17/16 03:17pm

If what these companies are doing is illegal, where can you report them in China?

Here is the Chinese law explained by a law firm that serves China:

  • Verifiable Permission. Chinese law requires email recipient provide explicit permission to receive a mass mailing email and that permission must “be verifiable and stored indefinitely in case of an audit.”
  • The Word “Ad” Must Be In The Subject Line. Mass emailings must have the word “Ad” (in Chinese) in their subject line.

Clearly, neither of these are being followed by Longse but what can be done? A foreigner complaining to the Chinese government about a hungry Chinese entrepreneur building an overseas business?

Other sources say that no or few companies are ever prosecuted / censored / stopped by the Chinese government anyway.

Once could certainly complain to the US FTC but what can the US FTC to do a company that has no US physical presence?

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Undisclosed #2

IPVMU Certified | In reply to John Honovich | 04/18/16 07:12am

One could certainly complain to the US FTC but what can the US FTC to do a company that has no US physical presence?

This?

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Michael Terrizzi

04/18/16 12:38pm

i had to block their domain from my email servers due the daily spam from their domain. I've started to see alternate domains start to get emails through, i just don't understand why they continue.

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John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Michael Terrizzi | 04/18/16 12:44pm

Michael,

Good point. That is interesting. They have evidently found a tactic that evades Google's spam filter, by default, making it even more annoying.

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Undisclosed Manufacturer #1

In reply to Michael Terrizzi | 04/18/16 12:47pm

the idea is to try to get them blacklisted and blocked by the ISPs before they even get there. But somehow they have gone out of their way to find a method to get around it. I guess they think by continuing to annoy people is going to wear them down and say i give up i will buy if you stop spamming me!

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Max Shumeyko

04/19/16 12:21pm

Interesting.

I didn't know that Longse and Acesee and Cantonk is a one company.

I remember in 2012 I've got about 50 new chinese spammers to add to my mailbox filters. Like cantonk, acesee, wodsee, howelcctv, cctvhw, novosun, qihan, eonboom, generalvision.com.cnamovision, annivision, lenkeng, eglcctv, htwcctv, pailicctv, risvision.cn, ycxcctv

So there is a chance that a big part of them are Longse "brands".

To protect my mailboxes from these spammers I added about 20 message filters for Thunderbird. Now I have more than 100 filters.

I have published some filters on our facebook wall here in 2012.

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Undisclosed Manufacturer #1

04/19/16 12:25pm

should probably start a message board posting all the spammers. I have a new one that doesn't stop and they literally spam every employee mailbox with multiple emails and again somehow got around Barracuda and filters. "winpossee"

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Undisclosed Integrator #3

04/19/16 03:23pm

Every time they send me an email. I'm going to send him 20. Our customer service reps spend a good 10 min every morning delete spam from China and France.

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John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #3 | 04/19/16 03:57pm

every morning delete spam from China and France.

France?

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Undisclosed Integrator #3

In reply to John Honovich | 04/19/16 04:03pm

Yea, we get a ton of spam from France. Almost as much as China. Not related to security industry. Mostly lead generation spam.

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IPVMU Certified | In reply to John Honovich | 04/19/16 04:09pm

Longsé ;)

btw, in outlook at least you can set up to filter based on character set.

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Hal Bennick

Trafficware, a CUBIC Company
04/20/16 09:15pm

Honestly, I've been trying to get my new email back on their mailing list. I always got a kick out of their emails. I went to their website, and actually mailed them to get added to the list a few months ago, but I haven't seen an email yet. Not only do they not opt-out, but they also don't opt-in!

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Undisclosed Manufacturer #1

04/20/16 09:51pm

Very sad. You missed the promotion last month of buy none get one free!

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