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** ********** ********* **** ******* **** negative **** ***-** ***********, **** **, US **** ******* ***** ** ***** than *** ******* ******* ****** ***** non-US ******* ***** ** ******. ** estimate **** ***-** ********** ********* ***** have **** *** ******* (*.*., ******** roughly ***** ** ********).
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******** ****** *******, ************ ********** ********* *******, ** ** points, ********* ****** ** * ***** downtward ** ******** ********* ******* *** company ** *** ********** ***** *****:

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Chinese ********** ********
*** **** ****** ******** ********** ******** was **************'* ******* ********** *********:
- "****** ****** ***** ************ ** ***** government."
- "******* **** *** *******."
- "******* ********** *********, **** **** *******."
- "**** ** *****. ******* ************* ** security ******* **** **** *** *** well **** **. **** ** **% of *** ********** ******** ***** ******* government ****** *** *****, * ***** can't ***** ****** ** **** *** risk."
- "*** ***** ***** ** *** ** my *******. *** *** **** *** reason ***, ********* ***** **********, *********, poor *************. ***’* *** ****** *** race ** *** ******."
- "******* ****, ******'* **** ****** *** ban ********** ***** *** **** ***** the ***."
- "****. *** * *** *** ** the ********* ***** ** *** *****... or ***** **********."
- "******* *****. ******* *** ******* ******."
- "***** ** *** ******* **********, *** made ** *** ***. *** ***** for **** ** ** *******."
- "******* ***** ************ **** ******** *********** cybersecurity *****."
- "* ******* **********. * ******* *** Chinese ********** **** ****!"
- "******* ******** ********. ******* ** ********** opportunity."
- "****** ******** ********** **** ***** *** completely ******* ** *** *********."
- "****, **** *** * ***? **** is * ****** ******* **** ********* for *** ******* ****** ******."
******** *****
******** ****** *********** **** ***** *** company's ******** *****:
- "******** ******!"
- "******** ******."
- "* ******* *** **** **** ************* of ********* ************ *******."
- "* ******* *** **** *** ***** products ** *** ** ****** *** intentionally ***** ******** *********."
- "********* *** ***** ******** ****** *** a *** *******. **** *** ***** race ** *** ****** ********* ** well."
- "********* ******** **** ******** *** *******."
- "***** ************, ***** *** ********* *********, predatory ******* *********** *** ********* *** value ** *** ********. * ***** they ****** * *** **** (**** hearsay)."
- "********* ** ** ** ********** **** cheap, ********** *******. *** **** ***** websites **** *** *** **** ******* Hikvision, *** *****, *** **** *** your *********** ****. ****'** * ******** product **** ******** *** ********/ ****."
- "*** ******!"
- "******** - ******** ******."
***'* *****
******* ** ********** ********* *** ******** problems *** **** *********** *** ******** Hikvision:
- "** ***'* *** **** ******* ** don't ***** ********* **** *** ******** of *** *********."
- "**** **** ** * **** ** say? *** ** ***** ****?"
- "*****'* ****** ******* **** **** *******. A *** ** ********* ********. ******* to *****. ********* ** **** ***** tells *** *** *** *** **** eventually ***** ** ** *******."
- "***'* ***** ****."
- "*** ******* **** *****'* ***** ** flaws ** ***** ******** ** *** worth ***** ******** ****."
- "******* **** *********** *** ****** *************."
- "**** *****! **** ****!"
- "************* ********** **** * ***** ****** that ****** *** ******."
- "**** *** ***** *** ** ******** hacking ** *** ******* *** ***** secretive."
- "***’* *****."
********* *** **** ******* *** ********* about *** ******* ********** ********* ** the ******** ** *** **** ***** *****, *** ******* ********** *** admitted ** ****.
Lack ** *******
*******, **** *********** ****** ******** ***** Hikvision ******* ******* ********:
- "****** ****** ** **** ***** ********. On *** ***** ****, **** *** Chines *************, *** **** ** *******, very *** **, ******** ******, **** production **** *** **** ******** ********** emerging, **** ** ***********,**** **** ***** ***** ******* **** me **** ** *** **** ** even *********** ******* **** ****."
- "***** **. ******* ** **** *******, dome *******, * *** ** ** leak. *** ******* ** *** *****. Bad ********** **** * ***** ******. Many ******* *********, *****, ** ******* changed *** ** *** * *** of **** *** **. ** **** not *** ********* *******."
- "**** ****** ** *********. ***** *** cheaper ******* **** ******* ******-******* **********."
- "*** *******, ***-********* ******* ****. ********* has **** **** ** **** *** industry **** *** ***** ************. ** were ******** **** *** *** *** signed **** ***."
- "* ***'* **** ***** ******** *** camera *********. **** ******* *** **** to ***."
- "************ *******, *** ****** ****** **-***** the ***** ******. ******** ***** ******* espionage."
- "******? *** ***** ******* **** ****?"
- "***** ****. ** ***'* **** ** and **** ******* *** ** ** from *** ******."
- "******** *******, ********, *** ******** *******. Worst ***** ******* ** *********. *** price ***** ** **** * ********* of *** *** ** *** *******."
- "*******: ******** ***** *** ***** *******."
*******
***** ***** *******, *** **** ****** theme *** **** *** ******* *** ok *** **** **** ********, ** the ********** ***** *****:
- "********* *** **** **** ***** **** share ** ****** - *** **** have *********** ** ******** ****** ** the ******** *** ********** ** **** the ***** ** * [**] ********* thinks - *** ***** ********** *** doesn't **** **. ****** ****** (****) and **** ********* ***. **** *** improving *** *** **** *** ***** lack *** ********* ******* ** ***** of * ********** ********* *******. ***** all, ***** ***** ******** ****** ** more ****** **** ****** *********** **** the ******* ****** **** **** *** been ********. ** ***** ** ***-**, they **** * ******* *** ** a ****** ***-** ******* *** ***, NVR, *** ****** **** ** ********* neither ********** *** ****."
- "**** *** * **** *** ***** of ********. ** **** ***** ******* for *** *** ******* *** ** some ***** ******* ************* ***** ***** priced ********. ***** ** *** **** problems. ***** ** ***** **** *** quality ** ***** ******* ******."
- "**** **** **** *********** ******** ** the *** ***** (***** ***, ****-*** bullet), **** ***** ******* *** ********** price. ******* *** ********* ** ******* (why **** ** ********* ****** ** dome *******), **** ** ****** **** low/medium/high-end. ****** ***** ******** ********. ******** should ******* ** **** ** **** release ***** **** **** ** *** if ** **** ******** ****** *** issue."
- "*** * *** ** ***** ******* but **** ** ****** *** ** price. *** ****** *** **** **** support ***** ******** ***** **** ***** camera ** ******** ******* **** **** no **** ***** *** ** *** specialty ******** **** ****...**** *** ******* I *** * ********* ******* **** 4 ********* *****. ***** ******** ** pretty ********. ***** *** * ******** not ******** ***** ** *** **** basic ********* ****** **** ** **** should. *** **** ******* ******** **** I ****** *****. **** ** **** wasted ** ** ******** ** ***** new ******* *** ****. ******** ******* for * ********* ******* ** ****."
- "*** ********** ** ******* *** **** mobile *********** *** *** *** ** easily **********."
- "** **** ****** *** ********* **** cameras. *******, *** ***** ******* ** good *** *** ******* *** *** practical ** ******* **** * ****** harness **** ** *** ***** *** not ****. *** ****** ** *** models *** *** ******** ******* *** different ******* ***** *** ****** *** suitable ******** ***********. ** *** **** for ***** ************* ** * *** price."
- "***** ******* ******* **** ** ********."
- "****** *** ***** ****. *** **** intuitive."
- "*** *** ********** ** *****. ******** are, ** ** *******, *** *** best. *** ******* ** *** ******** could ** ******."
- "***'* *** **. ******* *********. *******, my ********** ** *** **** **** the ******** ** ****-*** ***** ****** competitors."
- "** ***** ***** ***** *** **** some ****** ** ***** ******* ******** down."
- "******* ***** *** **** *******, *** have * **** ******* ****."
- "***** *** *********** ****. ******** ********, customers **** *** **** ******** **** to ***. *** ******** ** *** this ** **** *** ********** **** screwing ***** ***** ***********."
- "** *** **** * ***. *** really * *** ** **** *** if *** ***. ******* ** ****** the ****** *** ** ***. *** picture ** *** *** **** ***. I dislike *** ********. ***** *******."
- "**** ***** *****, **** ******* *******, support ** ***** *******, *** ******* not ***."
- "**** *** **** **** ***. *** just **** ** **** **** ***** in. ** ***’* *** **** *** I *** ***** **** *** **."
- "**** ****** *********. *** * *** of ********* ********."
- "* **** ***** ** ****, *** many **** ******** ** *** **** what ** ****. ******* ***** ********** and *** ********."
- "** ** ********* ********* *** ******* projects ***** ******* ** *** **** concern. ** ** *** ****** ******* their ******** *** **** *** **** when ** ** *** ******* ******."
- "******* *** **** ***** *** ********** reliable. ***** *** ** **** *** client ******** ** ********* ********. *** UI ** *** **** ** ***."
***** ******* ********** ********:
- "**** ****** ** ***** *********--****** **** western *************. ******* ****/******** **** ** cybersecurity. ******* ********* ***** ***** *** don't ***** ** ** * *** fail."
- "****: **** *******, ****** ***********, ******* available, ***** *********, **** *******. *******: Negative ************ ********** **** ***** ******* products ***** ********* **** ******* **** as * ****** ** ***** ****************. **********, * ***'* **** ***** we *** ******** *** ***** **** called ** * ****** ** ******** security ** * ************* *** ******** tariffs ** ***** *** ********. ** doesn't ****** ****** ** *** **** require ********** *** **** ********* **** ********* customers *** ****** ** ***** *** & *******."
- "** ********* ******* ******* ********, *** we **** ** ***** **** ********* conquered *** ******** ******. *** ***** cameras *** ****, **** **** ***** quality, **** ** **** **** ******** and *** ***************** (*** ******* ***, *** ******* low *****, *** ******* *********** *** a ******* ********** ** * **** image ******** *********.) ************ ******* *** good, *** **** *** *** ** cheap ** ******** - ** ****** choose * **** ******** ***** ** possible. *********** ************ *********, ** ** long *********, ********* ** *** ******* CCTV *****. * *** ********** ** cameras **** ** ******* *** ********* low **** *******. ** ***'* **** VMS, ***** **** **** * *** software. ** *********** * *** ** problems **** **** ** ******** & firmware *** ** ****** ** * lot ** ****** ****, ******** **** security *** ***** ****** ** ***** and ****** ******** *** **** *** when ********* ******* **** ******."
- "**** *** **, *** ** **** the ***** ******* ****, *********/******** * let-down *** **** ************ *****-******** ******** overall **********, ** **** *** **** on **** ******/****** **** ********."
- "***** *** *** *** ** ***********, higher-end ******* *** *** ****** **** against ***********. ******** ***** ******** *** VMS *******."
- "* **** *** *** **** ******* I ***** **** * ****** **** I ****... *** *** *** *** who *** ******* *** * *** dollar *** ****** ** *** **** if ***** ** ********."
- "****** *********** *** *** ***** ** exceptional, *** *** ******** ***** **** cybersecurity *** **** **** * **** palatable ****** *** **. ** **** to **** **** **** ****** ****** to."
- "******* *** **, *** ** *******, Cybersecurity *** ***** *** *****."
- "***** ******** ******* **** ***** *** really ***'* **** *** *** ********* baggage **** ***** **** *********."
- "**** ****** *****, **** ******* ******, good ***** *** **** ************* *** reliability ****** ****** ***'*."
- "**’* **** ***** - ***** *** effective *** *** ***** *** ** the ******. ** *** * *****. The ********** *********** *** **** ** security ** * ******* *** ***** we **** *** *** *** ****** specifically ** ******** ****** ** ********."
- "**** * *** ** ******* ****** from * *** ** *** **** tests. ******* ******** ***."
- "**** **** ********* & **** ***** quality ******** **** **** **** ****** such ** *** ** ********** ***, cybersecurity ***."
- "******* ***** ** **** ** ************* Division *** ****** * ******** **** the ***** *********."
- "** **** ***** ********* *********, *** the ******** * **** ** **** it ***** **** *** ** * good ***** ********. ** **** ***** wanted *** ********* ** ****** * lot ** ** *** ** *** field. ** ***** **** ***** ***** be * ****** ********** ** ******* and * ****** ****** ** *** publicity ****** **** ***** *** ********."
- "****** ****** ** **** *** ***** and *******-**** ********. ***'* **** **** they *** ***** ** *** ******* - *** **** **** **** *** up **..."
- "**** ******* *** *** *****. * really ******* *** **** **** *** Chinese ********** ********* **** ****. * try ** **** **** *** *** Internet ** ** ***** ****** ** customers ** *** ******** ****. * wish ***** *** * *.*. *********** at * ******* ***** *****."
- "***** ******** ** ***** ******. *********** is ** **** ** ******. ********: political ******."
- "******* ******** ****** *** **** ** have **** ******* ******* *** * camera ** **** ***** *** ****."
- "***** ***, **** * ***, ** do **** *****, **** ***** *** they **** ** **** **** *** world!"
********
*** ******** **********, *** ***** *** good ******* ******** **** *** *******, as *** ******** ***** ********:
- "**** *******. ***** **** * ***** of ********. *****."
- "******* ** ***** ***** ** **** high. **** ***** * **** *********, to *** ***** ***** * ****** have ** ** ** ******* ************ to **** * **** *** *** my ******."
- "********* & **** *****. **** ** absolute ***** ** *** ******* ********** spying ** ********** ************ *** *** effect ** ***. *'* ** **** concerned **** *** ************ *** ****** of **** **** ********, *****, *** Google ****."
- "********* ** ***** ***** ** ** our **** ******* **** ***** ********* changes. ** *** **** ******* **** our ******* ***** *** ********* ****** involved **** ****** *********. **** *** OK **** **. **** *** ***. We **** ***** *** ** ****** with *********. ** **** *** **** minor ****** ****** ***** **** **** addressed *******. *** ** *** ** favorite ************ *** ** ******."
- "******** *** ***** *******. **** *** making ***** ******* *******. * ***'* believe ******* ****** *********** *** ****, plus *** *****, *** *** ** spying ** ** *** ******* (*** government)."
- "* ***** ********* *** ****** * lot ** *** ***** **** *** past *** ***** (************** **) - I *** ** - *** *** product ****** ** * ****** *******. Good ******* *** *** * **** in **** **** (** ***** *********) are ***** ******* ****. *** *******, I ***'* **** *** - *** product ** * ****** *******. *** we ***'* **** **."
- "**** ** ***** ******* ** *** and ******* ***** ***** *** ***********. US *** **** *** ****** ** in ******."
- "**** ******** ***** ***** ** ********** if ** *** *** *** *** cheep ********* *******. *** ***'* **** a $*,*** *** ** ****** * $500 ****. ******* ***** ** ***** IVMS ****** **** ** ***** ***. That ** **** ****** ** **** situations."
- "**** ********, **** ** ******* *** configure."
- "* **** ******** *** ** ******* on *********, * **** *** ******* to ** **** ******* *** ** a ***** ***** *****. * **** never **** *** ** ***** *** hard/software *** ******* *** ***** *** work ****. ********* ** *** *** of ** ****** ******* ******."
- "**** ******* *** *** *****. ******* rich."
- "******* ** **** *** ***** ******** support **** ** ******* ** ****** design *** *************."
- "****** ************* *** *** ****** ****** many ****** ** *******."
- "***** *******, **** *********. **** *** pleasant **. ***** ******* *** **** is **** **********."
- "*** ***** ******** * *** *** understand **."
- "****** ******** *** * *********** *****. Easy ** *****, **** *** ****** gets *** *** ****."
- "***** ******* *** ********** *** *** price. **** ******* ****** ****** ******* they ***** **** *****, *** ****** don't **** ** *** ******. **** seem ** **** *****."
- "**** **** *** *** **** *** small-mid **** *************."
- "******* *** *** ***** ***'* ** beaten."
- "**** **** *** ***** *************. **** is * *** ****."
- "***** *******, *******, ** **** *** this ******* *** *** ****** *** is ** **** **** ***** ******"
- "** ********* *** ********* ******** ** it ********* ******* ** **** ***** OEM *****. ** **** ********* *** to ******* ************, *******, *** ***** points."
- "**** ******** **** ******* ********* *** have *** ********* *******, ********** **** the ***** ** ******** ** ******* older ****** ******* ** * ****-********* manner."
- "********** ******* *** * ***** ****** of *******."
- "*** ***** ***** ** *** ***-***** cameras ** **** ** *** ***** quality."
*******, **** **** ******** ********** ********* problems **** *** ******* ********** *********:
- "**** *** *******, **** ** ******* and ***. *** ******* ********** ** an ***** *** **** *********."
- "***** *** *********. ***’* **** *** price ***** *** ***- ** ******-***** customers ******* *********** ** **********. ******* is ****** ** *** **** *** to **** **** **** ********* *** overall ** * *******, * ***** say********. *** ** ** ******* ** high-security ************."
- "**** **** *** *** **** *** I **** ******** **** **** *** disappear ** *** ** ******* ** their *********."
- "******** ******** *****, **** ******** ** make *********** ******* **** ***** ***********."
- "************* **'* ****** *****, **** **** even ****** ******* *****, ********* ** better ** ***** ** *** ****** of ***** *** *** ******** ** camera/Ezviz (******** ** ******** ** *****). But ** ******** ******* ***************** ** ***** * ********** ********* model **** *****. ****, ***** *** more ************ ** ********* ******** ** Dahua, ******* ** * ****** ******** model **** * ***** ***** ****'* all."
*******
********* ** ********* *********, **** **** challenges ********, ****** *** ********* ** the ** ********** *** ******** ** China's ******** *******.
** *** ***** ****, *** ******* is*** ******* (**** $* ******* ****** revenue), *** ****** ******* **** *** owner, *** ******* ********** *** ********* to ***** ***** ** *********.
********* **** ***** ****** ** ***** *** 2010's growth ** **%+ *** **** *** whether **** ****** ********** **** ******* down ** ****** ****** ******, ****** with ***** ******, ** * ******** into *******, ******* ** ** ****.
Comments (26)
Sergio Guzman
IPVMU Certified | 03/18/19 02:28pm
This is a big deal. This is showing the overall community is moving into security concerns over the dollar. Wonderful. As an I.T. guy, I appreciate this shift in attitude.
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Undisclosed #2
has IPVM ever done an end-user only poll, similar to the integrator only polls?
More than a few of the integrators and manufacturers, while no doubt sincere, also have significant ‘skin in the game’ and stand to gain from the looming Fall of the Hikuan Dynasty (2012-????).
On the other hand, end users have the most financially to gain (arguably even more than Hik dealers), in the short term at least, from the PRC’s state-sponsored discounting.
it would be interesting to know how far and to what degree the negative sentiment extends into the chain.
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Eyal Kattan
Smells like mcChartism from the 60's 😉
I loved those "security concerns" while many installers don't have a clue about networking and securing networks.
We continue to successfully work with Hikvision and provide our clients secured quality surveillance solutions at cost-effective pricing.
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Undisclosed Manufacturer #3
With all the negative things about hik, how will it effect their oem partners like invid that sells the hik cameras much cheaper than hik does. Will the ban also include them ?
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Dennis Ruban
I don't understand the quality concerns. I have less than 1% fault rate for Hikvision.
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Undisclosed Integrator #6
All Products IP Based are vulnerable... See for yourself on the CVE Database CVE - Common Vulnerabilities and Exposures (CVE) . Hikvision closed the backdoor that coders implemented as a quick way for them to make fast changes to the camera(s) during the development phase, they made a mistake and let certain models into the US market without removing the backdoor by mistake and they corrected this mistake within 48hrs. The problem was that if you were not a Dealer you would have missed the notification from Hikvision to update the firmware immediately and close the exploit, leading to a lot of cameras purchased through amazon vulnerable. Whatever, it doesn't matter anymore because guys like JH are going to have a field day with this and not tell everyone the complete list of facts (sad). See other sources for a complete list of manufactures and their known vulnerabilities. NVD Database and CVEdetails.com ... Hikvision's HikSSL is Level 1 FIPS Certified. A certification given by the U.S. Government. Funny that the same Government decides to ban Hik from Government use. Security starts with IT Administrators and their ability to stay ahead of the threats, secure the network and it's peripheral components....
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