FLIR Favorability Results 2019

By: IPVM Team, Published on Feb 08, 2019

FLIR has had a challenging past few years including FLIR Security business struggling, FLIR restructuring their security division and FLIR selling their SMB OEM Business to Dahua.

New IPVM statistics show mixed status for FLIR. On the positive side, the company's overall favorability was roughly the same as FLIR's 2016 results, as shown below:

fav flir

On the negative side, integrator comments about the problems of FLIR's Dahua OEMing rose substantially.

Inside this note, we share numerous integrator comments to highlight the concerns of integrators.

**** *** *** * challenging **** *** ***** including **** ******** ******** **********, **** ************* ***** ******** division *** **** ******* ***** *** OEM ******** ** *****.

*** **** ********** **** mixed ****** *** ****. On *** ******** ****, the *******'* ******* ************ was ******* *** **** as****'* **** *******, ** ***** *****:

fav flir

** *** ******** ****, integrator ******** ***** *** problems ** ****'* ***** OEMing **** *************.

****** **** ****, ** share ******** ********** ******** to ********* *** ******** of ***********.

[***************]

Key ******

* ***** *** ****** emerged:

  • ******** *******: ***** *** viewed **** ********** ********* praised *** *******'* ******* offerings.
  • *******: ***** *** ****** FLIR ********* ****** *** no ********** **** **** or ****** *** *** contrast ******* ***** ******* and ***** ***** *******.
  • ********: ***** *** ****** FLIR ********** **** ****** complained ***** *** ***-*** Dahua ***** ********.
  • ***** ******* *******: *** commenters *** **** ** say ***** ******** *** ** ** cameras ******** ** ****.

********* ** ****,**** ******** *** ***-*** / *** ******** * year ***. ******* ****, *** impact ** **** ** still *********** ****** ***********. We **** ***** ** takes ***** (**** **** scenario) ** **-***** ***'* reputation **** **** ******** events. ****** **** ***** in *** **** **** is ********* (****** **** ***** perspective) ******* ********** ****'* brand** ******** ********* / sales, ******* ********* ****'* brand.

Strong ** ********

******** *********** **** ******** cited ****'* ******** ******* offerings, 

  • "** *** ****** ********* when ** ******* * Flir ******* *******."
  • "* **** *** *** thermals *** *** ** they *** *** **** reliable"
  • "**** *** **** *** / *********** ******* *********"
  • "*** **** ********** ** with *** ****-*** ******* products ***** *** *****-*****."
  • "***** ******* *******. **** effective."
  • "** **** **** ******* of ***** ******* ******* imaging ************"
  • "****: ********* ******* *******"
  • "**** ******* ******* ** installed, ******** *** **** thermal *****"
  • "***** *** ******* ** thermal *******"
  • "**** *** ******* *******"
  • "**** *** ******* ******'*."
  • "**** ******* ** ***** a ********"

*******, **** * ****** of *********** ****** ******** on **** ***** ****** out ****'* ***-*** *** business:

  • "**** *** *** ******** of *** ******* *** or ******."
  • "*** ***** ***** **** are *** ******* ** hurting ***** **********."
  • "********* ***. *** ** good *** ******* .*** is ** ***** ***." 
  • "*******: ***** ***-******* ******* are *** ************ ***********."

Neutral **** *** ******* / *** ********

***** ******* ** **** either *** ** ********** with **** ** **** out ** ***** *** to **** *** *** difference ******* ****'* ******* and *** *********:

  • "**** ********* ** **** really ******* ******** *** really, ****** *** **** on *** ***** ***."
  • "*** *** *** **** has ********** ******** *** product ***********. *** **** I ******* **** ** a ******** **** ***** Convenience ***** *** **** End ******* *******"
  • "** **** ** ** the **** ******* ******* haye *** **** **** a *********** ***** *** can *** ** ******"
  • "**** **** ** *** thermal ****** ****. ***** product *** ***** *** application ** *** ** come **. **** **** soiled ***** ***** **** they ******* ** *********. Cheap ******* *** *** Dahua ** ***** ** relegated ** *** ******* bin."
  • "*** **** **** ****** doing **** *****. **** used ** ** **********, now *** **** ******* Chinese *** ** *** as * *** ****."
  • "******** *** **** ** you *** ****** *** price. *** * *** of *** *** *** re-brand ****."
  • "* **** ** *** companies. *** ** ****, the ***** ** **-******* garbage."
  • "******** *** ******, *** the **** ** ***** product **** ***** ** be *** *** ****."
  • "***** ****** *** ******** still **** ** ** held ** **** ******, though ***** ***** *** products **** **** ***** rebrands."
  • "**** - ***** *** of **** ******* **** branding ** *********** *** box ***** **** *******."
  • "***** *******: **** **** high *** ******** *** some **** *** *** products"

********

** *** ******** ****, criticism ** ****'* ***-*** OEM ******** *** **** intense:

  • "******* ******** *******"
  • "****'* **** **** ** OEM ** ***?"
  • "**** *** **** *** as ***** ***** ** the **** *********."
  • "**** ******* *** ***** basic ****** ****."
  • "**** **** *** ******* reputation **** *** *** went ******* ******... ** us ** ** **** another *********** ******** ** be **** ** ******* and ******..."
  • "***** ** *****"
  • "***** ******!"
  • "**** ******* ********, *** but **** ******* *****...**"
  • "**** ** *****, *** firmware, *** ******* *******, overpriced"
  • "***** *** *** ******* (dahua)."
  • "** *** ** ***** low ****** ** **** their ***** ** **** rebranded ******* *******, **** lose *** **** ** my *******. **** **** you *** **** **, stay *** ** **** you ***** ******** **."
  • "***** *** **** **** to ***** ****** **** thinking **** *** ******* forward ******* ********."

DVTel ******* *******

******* ****** ******** ****** $100 ******* ** ***** in ****, ***** *** its ****** / ********, received **** *** ******** either ******** ** ********. DVTel *** **** ****** in ********* *** *** but *********** **** ******* forgotten ***** **** ** FLIR / ***** *** been ********** **** ** both *********** *** ********* of ***** ********.

*******

*** **** ***** ***** for **** ***** *** is **** *** ***-*** OEM ******** ** ****. That ** ******** ** subtraction.

*******, **** **** **** to **** ******* ********** and *********** ** **** their **** ******* **** and *** ****** ***** side ** *** *** IP ******* ** **** aim ** ****** * more *********** ******* ******** in ***** ************ *** overcome *** *********** ****** of *** ****** ***-*** OEM ********.

Comments (5)

Undisclosed Integrator #1

02/08/19 02:05pm

** ***** *** ** sell *****, *** * liked *** **** ****** we ****** *** *** people *****. **'* *** always **** **** ******** and **** *****'* ** the ********, *** *** always *******.

*** ***** *********** **** faltered, *** **** ***** been? *** *** *******? Sometimes ** *** *** like ***** * ******* has ****, *** **** a ******* **** ** maybe ** **** *****. We *** *** **** where **** *** ****, but ***** ** **** it **** **********...? ******** is ******** *****-***.

John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #1 | 02/08/19 03:53pm

** *** *** **** where **** *** ****, but ***** ** **** it **** **********...? ******** is ******** *****-***.

****** ********. ***: **** ******** ******** ********** *** **** ************ ******** ********.

******* *** **** *********** than **** (****, *****, Hanwha, ***.). ***** *** disappointed. *** *** ********. Not * **** *********** for *******.

Terrence Harless

In reply to John Honovich | 02/14/19 02:51pm

*********** *** ****, **** security *** ***-******** ***** talk ***** ******* *******, they ****** ***** ** them ** **** *******. Similar ** ******** ******... If **** **** *****, Flir *** **** ********** money ******.

Undisclosed End User #2

02/13/19 03:27am

* **** * ***** forget ***** *****, *** lack ** ******* *** the ******* ** **********.  DvTel ******* ***’* **** properly **** **** ***** own ***. *** ****** is *** ******** *** of **** ************ *** version *.* *** *** cessation ** ******* *** a ******* **** *** been *** *** **** than * **** ** an ******* ** ***** users ** ** ********, hardware *** ********.  

Undisclosed Integrator #1

In reply to Undisclosed End User #2 | 02/13/19 05:17pm

**** * ***** ** dodged **** ******.

Login to read this IPVM report.
Why do I need to log in?
IPVM conducts unique testing and research funded by member's payments enabling us to offer the most independent, accurate and in-depth information.

Related Reports

Milesight Company Profile on Jan 22, 2019
Milesight Technology, a Chinese company building an International branded business, says they are slowly building their presence through a series...
Hikvision Favorability Results 2019 on Mar 18, 2019
Hikvision favorability results declined significantly in IPVM's 2019 study of 200+ integrators. While in 2017 Hikvision's favorability was...
Vivotek Favorability Report 2019 on Jan 29, 2019
Taiwanese video surveillance manufacturers, even relatively large ones like Vivotek, have lost ground in the PRC-China-driven race to the bottom....
Hanwha Techwin Favorability Results 2019 on Jan 31, 2019
Hanwha Techwin's favorability results surged, in IPVM's 2019 study, going from barely neutral in 2016 to strongly net positive, as the results...
Uniview / UNV Favorability Results 2019 on Feb 12, 2019
Uniview / UNV, the self-proclaimed #3 China manufacturer, while starting late, has been working to make inroads internationally. In IPVM's 2019...
Dahua Favorability Results 2019 on Apr 01, 2019
Dahua favorability declined, in IPVM's 2019 integrator favorability series, driven by their backdoors, resulting in mass hacking and US government...
Axis Favorability Results 2019 on Feb 26, 2019
Despite more product shortages, but strengthened by increasing cybersecurity and China concerns, Axis' favorability, amongst 200+ integrators in...
ADI 'SAVE BIG' On FLIR And Hikvision Examined on Feb 20, 2019
One is a major US defense supplier. The other is owned by the Chinese government. But you can "SAVE BIG" on both at ADI. In this note, we...
Top Hikvision Proponent Nelly's "GoSwift" Elsewhere on May 03, 2019
Sean Nelson [link no longer available] of Nelly's Security has made a name for himself and his company as a proponent of Hikvision, such as this...
Dumber Techs, Bad Box Movers, Says Australian Distributor on Jun 10, 2019
Techs today are "dumber" than they used to be, despite better education and training and that makes a typical day "frustrating" for one...

Most Recent Industry Reports

Motorola / Avigilon Drops ISC West on Feb 26, 2020
Motorola Solutions has pulled out of ISC West 2020 effective immediately, because of coronavirus concerns, IPVM has learned. This is done amidst...
Cancel or Not? Industry Split Over ISC West on Feb 26, 2020
The industry is split, polarized, over whether ISC West 2020 should run or be canceled. New IPVM survey results of 400+ respondents show heated...
Coronavirus Hits Sony, Bosch Says Switch on Feb 26, 2020
Sony's fall in video surveillance has been severe over the past decade. Now, they may be done. In this note, we examine Bosch's new...
Video Surveillance Cameras 101 on Feb 25, 2020
Cameras come in many shapes, sizes and specifications. This 101 examines the basics of cameras and features used in 2020. In this report, we...
Favorite Video Analytic Manufacturers 2020 on Feb 25, 2020
Video analytics is now as hot as ever, driven by the excitement of advancing deep learning offers. But what are actually integrator's...
Latest London Police Facial Recognition Suffers Serious Issues on Feb 24, 2020
On February 20, IPVM visited another live face rec deployment by London police, but this time the system was thwarted by technical problems and...
Masks Cause Major Facial Recognition Problems on Feb 24, 2020
Coronavirus is spurring an increase in the use of medical masks, which new IPVM test results show cause major problems for facial recognition...
Every VMS Will Become a VSaaS on Feb 21, 2020
VMS is ending. Soon every VMS will be a VSaaS. Competitive dynamics will be redrawn. What does this mean? VMS Historically...
Video Surveillance 101 Course - Last Chance on Feb 20, 2020
This is the last chance to join IPVM's first Video Surveillance 101 course, designed to help those new to the industry to quickly understand the...
Vulnerability Directory For Access Credentials on Feb 20, 2020
Knowing which access credentials are insecure can be difficult to see, especially because most look and feel the same. Even insecure 125 kHz...

What IPVM Is

The world's leading authority on video surveillance, with 200,000+ visits monthly.

  • Articles on cameras, video analytics, VMS, and trends
  • Tests showing actual performance and problems
  • Courses in surveillance, access control, etc
  • Camera Calculator for designing systems

Dedicated To Independence

We're dedicated to staying independent and objective. We're the only industry source to refuse any and all advertisements, sponsorship, and consulting from manufacturers. Why?