Dahua Ban Response: NOT Chinese Government Owned

By: John Honovich, Published on Aug 08, 2018

Dahua has responded to the US Congress passing a US government ban on Dahua and Hikvision's products. While Dahua offered the now standard cybersecurity defense, it led with an interesting and direct assertion, that Dahua is "not a government-owned entity."

That is a true statement, from our research. How much does this help them and how can they position themselves vis a vis Chinese government-owned Hikvision?

***** *** ********* ** the** ******** ******* * US ********** *** ** Dahua*** *********'* ********. ***** Dahua ******* *** *** standard ************* *******, ** led **** ** *********** and ****** *********, **** Dahua ** "*** * government-owned ******."

**** ** * **** statement, **** *** ********. How **** **** **** help **** *** *** can **** ******** ********** vis * *** ******* government-owned *********?

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Statement ********

*****'* ************ ***** ******* ********* with *** ***-********** *********:

**** ****** ********** *** quite ****, ****** *** only ***** ******** ******* statement *** ** ******** 2016, ********* ********** ****** criticism ** *********:

*** **** ** *** 2018 **** ********* ** primarily *** **** **** cybersecurity *********.

Terrible ** *************

**** *** ******* **** recently (*****'* ******** *************) ** ** **** not ****** *********. ******* to ***, *** *********** of ********* ****** *** lack ** ************* ************ has **** *************** ****. And ** *****'* *****, that ** ******* *** because ** ******* ********** ownership *** ******* ***** China ** ****** ******* (e.g.,***** ******** **** ** Out). *****'* *****-****** **** this ****** ** * key ****** ** *** Chinese ********** *** ******* out ******* *********** ****** of *****, ******** ***** to **** **** **** disorganized ******** *********.

Not ********** *****

*************** *** *** ***** and ********* ****** ******* from *** ******* **********, ***** **, ** all ********, * ******* company (** ** ********** private ** ~$* ******* revenue ******* *** ** in *****). ***** *** a ***** ********** ** its ***** **** ** entities ******* ** *** Chinese ********** *** ******* akin ** *** ******* that ********* ***.

'Connected' ** *** ******* **********?

*** ******** **** ******** **** includes ********* '*********' ** the ******* **********:

*** *** ** ********** is ******** '*********' ** unclear *** *** **** itself, ** ***** *******, is *****. *******,***** *** *** ****** $1 ******* *** ** government ********* *** ******* oppressing ********** ** ************ *** **** * years, ***** *** **** and *********** ** ***** projects, ***** ** ******* some '**********' ******* *** Chinese ********** *** *****. Whether **** ********** ** sufficient ** ********** ******* is * *** ********.

Relatively ****** *** *****

******** ** ********* ** the ***, ***** *** much **** ******. ** addition ** *** ***** owned ** *** ******* government, **** *** **** smaller, ** **** **** less ** ****/********. ********, Dahua *** *** * clear ******* ** ****** (ex-FLIR ***** ****) ***** Hikvision *** **** ******* in * ***** ******* national. *** ************** *** ******* ******* out ** **** ***, ********* *******, ***** is ******* **.

** **** ** *****, though, *** **** ** these *********.

Comments (25)

Undisclosed #1

08/08/18 06:19pm

 

***** *** * ***** percentage ** *** ***** held ** ******** ******* to *** ******* ********** but ******* **** ** the ******* **** ********* has.

Dahua **** #*: ***,***** *** ** **** Huawei *** ********* *** being ***** ** * U.S. ********** **** ****** them “******* *********” ** the *********** *******, ******** due ** ***** ********* structure.

Dahua ***: * ** **** *** tired ** ***** ******** by *** *** ***** government ***********.  ******, *** get ** ** **** list, ******** ** *****!  And * ****** *** see ****** ** **** list ******!

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David Delepine

AA Security Systems LLC | IPVMU Certified | 08/08/18 06:23pm

* ** **** **** Dahua ** ************** ********** from ********* *** **** is ********** *** **** of ****** ********* **** need ** **** **** often ** *** **** of *** ***** *** from ********** ***. *** too **** *** **** Hikhua *** *** *** true, ** * **** this ** * ***** that **** ******** ****.

**** ** *** **** from ****** *** ***** sources **** ***** *** had * ******** ************* history. * **** *** that ** ** **** recent ********** **** **** any **** ** ******* (and ******* ********) **** seriously. **** ***** ** support * **** ******* the **** *** **** and **** ******** ******** on ***** ******** *******, people, *** ********* ** achieve *** ***** ** maturity *** ***** ****** out ** * *****-******* dollar ***********.

* **** ** ***** time *********** *** **** regional ************ *** ***** get ** **** ********* systems *** * “** & **” ****... *** the *****’* ****** ******* cctv ************???

* ***** ** **** can ****** **** *********** and **** ********** ** the ****** **** ****** their *******, *** ********** their *** *****, **** they *** **** * successful ****** ** *** SMB *** ******/***** ****** class **** *******. ** these ******* * *** thousand ** ********* ***** can ** * **** or ***** **********, *** they *** ******* ** to *** * *** above *** ****** ** the ******.

****** ***** *** **** years ** *** ******* doing * *** ** installs *** ******* *** bought ***** *** **** and ***** **** (** got “****” ***** ** and ******* ******** *** swann *** ***** **** because ***** ******* **** was **** *** ****... as ** *** ****** were **** **** ******?) we **** *** **** better *** *** ***** work **** *** ** cheapo ********. * ** sure ** ***** ****** some ***** *** **** providers ** ***** **** uniview, *********, ***. *** none ** **** **** the ******* ********* *** personal ******* ** ***** USA.

**** *** *** **** like ** *** ***** (or ******** **** *** now ***) ****** **** boots ** *** ****** for *** *****, ***** engineers *** ******* (****** we **** ******* *** use *** ********** *** get ** ******* **** ;) ), *** ***** volume ** *****, *********, and ********* ********** **** Dahua ** ******* **.

** **** ** ** uphill ****** *** ****, and * ***** ***** dealer ** *** **** of *** *** ***** a ***-******* *********** *** clients *** **** ******* cybersecurity ******** ** *** just ********* ********* ***** Chinese **** *******.

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Sean Nelson

Nelly's Security | 08/08/18 06:56pm

**** **** **** ** show *** *** **** thought (** **** ******) was *** **** *** Government ***. ******* ********** boneheadedness ************/******** ***** ******* thinking ****** *******.

** ** ***** ******* to ******* ***** ** Hikvision ** **** ******** but ** *** ******* to ******* ** ********* or *** ***** ******* vendors *** *** *************** found? ******!!! 

* ***** *** **** official *** ******* ** this ******** **** **** too **** **** ********* but ***** * **** member. **** **** **** read *** ********* **** Hikua-Damning ******** ******** ** the **** **** ****** free ** ***** *** could **** **** *** first ********* *** *** get *** ***** *****. By *** ***, **** is * ********** ** IPVM *** ***** ******** powers ** ****** **** take ** *** ***** way.

Undisclosed #2

In reply to Sean Nelson | 08/08/18 07:53pm

* ***** *** **** official *** ******* ** this ******** **** **** too **** **** ********* but ***** * **** member. 

**, *** ** **** previous ***** *** **** been ****** ** ************* the ******** ** ** Axis ************* **** * Hikvision *******, ********** ** all **** ** "***** vendor *** ***** ******** problems". ***** *** ********* are * ****** **** clued ** **** *** give **** ****** ***?

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Sean Nelson

Nelly's Security | In reply to Undisclosed #2 | 08/08/18 08:05pm

*****, **** *** *** differences:

- **** *********, ** got * ******** *** to ***** ** *** to ******* *** *******  and * ******** ******** hack-map **** ***+ *********

- **** **** (**** like *******), ** *** a "***************", "*** *** that *** ** * deal". "*** ** **! Good *** ** ******** it!" **** * ******* of *********.

**** ****?

Undisclosed #2

In reply to Sean Nelson | 08/08/18 08:36pm

*** **, *** ***** don't **** *** ***********.

Undisclosed Integrator #5

In reply to Undisclosed #2 | 08/09/18 01:38am

**. **** **** ********** the ***********.  *** ******** is **** ********** ** he ******* ********* ********.  

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Sean Nelson

Nelly's Security | In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #5 | 08/09/18 02:12am

* **** ******* ** your ******* ******. 

Undisclosed Manufacturer #3

In reply to Sean Nelson | 08/08/18 07:56pm

****** **** * **** HikVision ***:

*****://****.***/*******/***-****-***

(*****’* ********)

******** * **** ***** that **** ********* ** partner **** ********* *** paid ***, *’* **** in *** ***** **** many ***** **** *** this ** * ***** gamble. **’* ** ***** paid ***, *** ****** events *** *** ****** your ******** ** * negative *** - **** like ********* *** *****’* market **************.

John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Sean Nelson | 08/08/18 10:51pm

** ** ***** ******* to ******* ***** ** Hikvision ** **** ******** but ** *** ******* to ******* ** ********* or *** ***** ******* vendors *** *** *************** found? ******!!!

* ***** **** *** that ** ** ** are * ******** ****. The ********* ********** ** that **** ****** ** gear (********* *****) ** installed ** *** ** government ** ***** ******* entities. *** **** ** local ******* *** ***** effectively ****** **** **** such ********, ** **. To ** *****, * do ***** *** ************, it ***** ** **** to ******* ***** *** it ** **** * major ********* *****. *******, maybe **** ******* ** OEMs *********** ********* ** XM ** ******* *** heavily ****** ***** *********.

***, ****, *** *** still ** *** ********* train? *** ***** *** describe ** ** **** steam ***** **?

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Sean Nelson

Nelly's Security | In reply to John Honovich | 08/09/18 12:03am

***** ******* *** **** to ***** ** **** had **** ***** *********** today. *** ** ** top *** **** **** one ** *** **** jobs **** **** **** cant ** ********* ******* they **** *** ** a ***** ****. ** is **** ********* ***** a ******** *** ** has ******. 

**** ******* **** *** actively ******* ** * gov *** ***** **** stuff?

John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Sean Nelson | 08/09/18 01:30am

****, ****'* *********** ********. It **** *** ******** me *** ** **** make ***** **** ****** would ****** ******* **** just ******** ******* **********.

**, ** **** *** lobbied *** ********** **** on ****. ** *** speak ** ***'* ******** in ***** ** *** ban after **** **** *** an ***** **** *** strongly ******** ** *** ban, ***** *** *** fairly ********* ***** ******** viewpoints. ** ***** ***** this **** - *** ********* ******* ** House **** *** ** Dahua *** *********

*******, ******, ** ***** we **** *** **** impact ** *********** *** reporting ** ****** **** otherwise ***** *** *** exposure, *.*., ********* ******* ********** ***** CETHIK *******, *********'* ******** *********, ********* **** ******* ********** Forced ****** *********** ******* Across *** *******, ***.

Undisclosed #4

In reply to John Honovich | 08/09/18 01:35am

*** *****

Undisclosed #2

08/08/18 07:51pm

**** ** ***** ** allowed ** * ************, I ***** ** **** hesitant ** ********* ** use **** ** ***** sites.

*** ****** ** *** bill ***** ** ** to **** ******* ******** out ** ********* *****. It ***** ****** ** expanded ** ********* ** mention *****, **, ******, etc. ** ****. ** you *** ***** ** today, *** **** ****** get ******* ** ** more ******** ***** *** using *** ******* ********, you **** ******* ** in * ******** ***** you **** ** *** and ******* *** ***** equipment **** ********* ****. While * ******* **** could *********** ** * win *** *** **********, the ******** ***** ******** be **** **** ********.

 

Undisclosed Integrator #6

08/09/18 01:09pm

*** **** **** **** per **** *** ***** just ** ******* * Hik ******. *** ***** they **** ** *** the ******** ******* *** there? $*** ** ******* a $** ****** ******.... 

Undisclosed Integrator #7

08/09/18 01:45pm

*'* ******* ******* ****** that *** ** *********** itself ** "**** ****" Hik. *** ** *** state ***** **** ***, a *** ** * know. ** *** ******** changes *** **** ***** they *** ** ****** a *** ***, **** could **** **** *** ban.

******: **** ******* *** been ***** ** *** own **********:*** ******** ** ********* US *** ***?

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Sean Nelson

Nelly's Security | In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #7 | 08/09/18 02:00pm

**** ******* **** "**** over" ****? **** ** you **** **** **** be ******** ********* *******? What ** *** **** if ******** *******? **** are ******* ******* "***" and **** ***** ***** that **** *** *** manufacturer. *** **** *** they ***** **** **** the *** ** ** they **** ***** ******** manufactured ** ********* ** Dahua.

Undisclosed Integrator #7

In reply to Sean Nelson | 08/09/18 02:49pm

**** * ***'* ****** know *** **** ********* but **** **** * gather ** **** *** manufacturing ********** ***** ** "sold" ** *** **** Hik. **** ***** ******** the ********** ********* ** a ********* **** *******. As *** * ******** I **** ** ** Hik ***** ****** ***. 

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Sean Nelson

Nelly's Security | In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #7 | 08/09/18 02:50pm

**** ***********!

Undisclosed Integrator #7

In reply to Sean Nelson | 08/09/18 02:57pm

***** ** ** **** LTS *** ***** **** Hik **** **** ******** this ****** ** ****** for * ***** ** LTS *** ********** ****** as * *** ********** then ******** ******* *** products **** * ***********.  This ** **** ** thing ** ****** ******** practice *** ***** ************ to ***** *** ****.

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Sean Nelson

Nelly's Security | In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #7 | 08/09/18 03:02pm

********. * **** ****** wondered ** *** *** Hik *** ******** ** some ****. ** ***** words, *** ***** *** is **** **** **** a ******** ** ***. This ***** ** ***** for ***. 

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David Delepine

AA Security Systems LLC | IPVMU Certified | In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #7 | 08/09/18 03:09pm

**** ** **** *** the ********* ***** *** ownership ** ***** ***** not ******* *** ***. Dahua ** *** ********** owned *** ** ***** subject... ** *** *** LTS ******* **** *** hack ** **** ***** to **** ** ** international **** ** * whack * ****.

*** ** ****** ** lie ** ******** ***** their *** ******* ****. Their *** ******* (***** sounding *** **** * fairly ***** ******) ******** up **** ** ***** cameras *** *** **** by ********* *** **** own *** *****...? * told *** ** *** lieing ******* ***** **** are ***** ** ********* and **** **** **** their **** ** ****, and **** *** **** thing **** *********** *** dishonest *******.

**** *** *** ****** you ***** **** * new **** (***?) ************ at *** *** “*******”

Robert Shih

IPVM | 08/09/18 03:46pm

****, *** ******* ** it ** **** ********* on ******** **** *********** should ** **** **** the ***** ** ******** professionals ** *** ******. If ********, **** ** where ** **** *** our ***** ******** ** an ******** *** **** a *** ** ****** a **** ** *** system **** ** ********* blind ** *** ****** situation.

Undisclosed Manufacturer #8

08/12/18 04:28pm

********, ***** *** *** a ***** ******* ** leader (**-**** ***** ****)

 

***** *** *** ******* of ****** **** ****** but *** ***** **** to **** ****.  *****, the *** ** *** hiring *** ***** ******.  I ********* ***** **. Hurd ** ** *** position ***** ** *** do *** *** *** right ***.

John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Undisclosed Manufacturer #8 | 08/12/18 04:39pm

* ********* ***** **. Hurd ** ** *** position ***** ** *** do *** *** *** right ***.

***** ***** ***** ******, I ***** *****. ** the ***** ****, ***** Dahua **** *** ******* that **** **** ** defer.

***** *** *** ******* (way) ************* *** **** few *****. ******* ***** failures ** **** ****, combined **** *** ********* ban, **** **** **** more *********. 

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