Interlogix Shutting Down

How dare they only make between $100-$300 Million!

UTC is a HUGE machine! It has four divisions that make it up, clearly Aerospace it the big one. Under the Carrier Division where security falls there are 20 brands including Interlogix, makes sense to maybe streamline a bit but shutter it w/o selling off some lines makes no sense. Gone are the old Legacy GE days that we are remember.....Where am I going to get my old Sentrol 1076D contacts now? Businesses At A Glance | United Technologies

Crazy! UTC essentially killed two big brands they acquired after spending ~$1.8 billion including Casi-Rusco and Interlogix. They spent a load of cash to toss aside established companies.

It's like a rich guy lighting his cigars with $100 bills!

If I was a DIY alarm company like Ring or Simplisafe, I'd consider buying Interlogix just to be a 'white knight' among a segment of the market that is especially bitter toward me (traditional dealers) and work on the long game of converting them to sell my products over the next decade.

Are Hikvision recessed door contacts banned yet?

Lots of great people and Industry veterans going to be losing their jobs. It's a real shame considering what they could have done with that company if they had been able to invest in a long-term strategy not worrying about the shareholders every quarter and trying to maintain so many products globally that were obsolete or fighting for resources . It's a changing world and I'll pay more for a great product with good support, it appears that most will not. Will be interesting to see what happens as there are certainly lines that have value and they don't mention anything about the European or Australian markets where they also have a strong security presence. What they released appears to impact the US and Canada only.

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I spoke to a veteran executive who share the following color:

This is going to be a “fucking nightmare“ for dealers with these systems installed in residential, as removing or replacing them is going to be quite difficult.

Also, this person emphasized that the company back in the 80s and 90s was disruptive and great, lamenting how GE Security and now UTC ran them into the ground.

My first impression that I recall of them was this: Interlogix Releases a Cake

I'm soooooo glad I just read this. I was trying to find two Interlogix NVRs to replace two dead ones. Now I have more evidence to support me wanting to replace all of that school's NVRs with a Milestone server. I just hope the ONVIF of the old cameras can be picked up by the Milestone server.

I will download the free XProtect Essential and put it on a virtual server and see if it can recognize the cameras. If that doesn't work, I can grab one of our incoming recording servers and set it up there and see if it finds them.

Just one more example why the yearly membership cost to IPVM is well worth it!

Thanks!

wow, i would have purchased the company for atleast $100

Letter emailed to Interlogix customers:

The funniest line is 'we anticipate increased demand at this time'. So going out of business is good for business?

Note: Sperios Venios was just moved into Interlogix 4 months ago, in May. He replaced long-time Interlogix exec Michael Chiavacci who left that position in May amidst the ongoing turmoil that lead to this week's move.

We're getting subbed out on a job from an IT company, they are having us install an all Interlogix access control and IP camera solution, about 14 doors and 100+ cams. They're doing the same thing across the country for the same client at at least 5 sites. Not sure how they're going to go moving forward but it's a tough position to be in.

Could it be that Interlogix is ceasing operations only in the US and Canada because of the Chinese-made Truvision cameras?

What happens to Ultrasync? Face to desk..

Unofficially hearing that they will support UltraSync and DDNS service for at least a few years.

What a perfect way to reinforce the massive concerns that everyone has about what UTC is going to do with/to S2 with the LenelS2 merger.

It's basically impossible for me to trust anything that UTC touches, and until further notice, S2 is the one that is at the most risk in all of this --- current topic excluded, obviously.

Another thing to consider with this is who will benefit on the manufacturer side? 2gig and Qolsys immediately come to mind. But what about DSC or even Resideo? Also, it may not be a huge concern to the readership here but for the national and state associations, Interlogix is a big sponsor.

Large Australian distributor Hills sent an email emphasizing it was business as usual for Interlogix in Australia:

The team at Hills want to highlight that this decision is exclusive to the U.S and Canada markets and will not impact your current relationship with Interlogix. Furthermore this decision will not impact the availability of any products from the Interlogix brand in Australia and New Zealand including Lenel, Tecom, TruVision, UltraSync, ZeroWire and products under the brands Quell, Kidde and Onity.

They did qualify it at the end saying:

Hills are committed to informing and supporting you in regard to this matter and will notify you of any information as we receive it.

This will be one surreal situation, even for UTC, if Interlogix is shut down in North America but still going in Australia. One obvious question - will there be any new product development? It would seem odd if they did such development given their home / main market shutdown.

There’s no mention of the TruPortal access control piece. Will that be shutting down as well?

Would anyone know if the Truportal boards/readers are OEM Hikvision or another Mfg that may be compatible with each other? I just finished a 6 Door add on to a 4 door system and have phase 3 scheduled for next year. Now a dilemma of what to do, jump ship now and find another product altogether or buy enough product for next year's project. Ugh.

This decision will allow us to focus on the significant growth opportunities for our other fire and security businesses, including LenelS2.

I have been in the Alarm industry for over 30 years, The only Interlogix I have ever sold and installed was their door contacts. I'm not seeing a real loss to the industry here.

Their reasoning for shutting down is in the first line of my response. Probably a good plan, As Lenel continues to spiral down and their customer base continues to shrink.

As an Integrator I love finding Lenel customers, they are always frustrated with the money they spent for the System that cost them more and more for every feature they'd like to add...Our local dealers all seem the technical expertise to support the platform after its installed.

I'm , hoping someone jumps in and provides a viable option to the S2 customer base. There are too dealers in our area to even consider picking the S2 product line, and all bidding for the S2 solution seems to be a race to the bottom......No Thank You...

This is actually not that surprising considering that they’re getting hit by the Hikua side of things in their video biz as well as the DIY growth for their much larger intrusion biz.

I think if anything, they’ll end up acquiring another video company but they know at this point that the Interlogix brand is no longer viable in NA. Not sure intrusion is where they want to be anymore...DIY is just exploding and really hurting that side of the business.

If the $100-$300 Million is a number with any credibility than UTC has really killed the business. I was part of the Interlogix management team and at the time we sold to GE we were doing over $750 Million. I am not privy to the sales numbers when sold to UTC as I had left the company a few years before that sale. That said; GE also added more business by acquisition after acquiring Interlogix so it is fair to assume that the sales volume when purchased by UTC should have been well over $700 Million.

This announcement should surprise nobody!

If you look at the successful core Interlogix product lines of the past. SIMON, Concord, NX (Caddx) and wireless sensors. None of these products have had a substantial upgrade in 12+ years. In reality, all efforts to release updated product lines with features of today's security panels have failed.

Started with GE Security trying to obtain the cable giants security businesses, which went to iControl. Four years of product design, no revenue from investment. FAIL

Advisor security panel, five-plus years of development costs. Released for 2-3 months, then discontinued. FAIL

Hills acquisition cost plus the cost of four years of development. UltraSync panels have minimal market penetration. FAIL

In reality, Interlogix has nothing to sell. Old dying legacy panels, no new products that forecast to be successful.

Add up the above failures and how many million has it cost UTC.

Who is to blame. LEADERSHIP

UPDATE: FAQ Obtained

IPVM has obtained a FAQ that Interlogix has been sharing with partners about the 'wind down'. Key sections include confirming that manufacturing will stop:

This raises significant skepticism about how Interlogix will be able to continue to sell going forward outside North America, as they have claimed.

Despite that Interlogix is literally encouraging people to install new product:

Unless this is to service existing accounts, we think the more prudent move is to use any other products continue to be manufactured.

Finally, the FAQ confirms that all Interlogix products will stop being manufactured:

I have an Interlogix system that was installed 10 years ago, when it was still GE. Without notice or warning the badges for that system were discontinued by Interlogix. The system requires unique badges, that are not available from any other manufacturer. After three weeks of searching with help from the Interlogix rep we found badges from another Interlogix product that worked. But I won't be surprised if I can't get those either next time around. I am replacing my system and personally would not count on anything still being available from Interlogix going forward. They are just trying to get rid of stock when they say keep installing our systems.

Any word if this affects the manufacture of the "Sentrol" door contacts?

One final sales promotion from Interlogix:

What is the current state of aftermarket support of interlogix devices. Are the warranties being honored? what about out-of-warranty. Does Interlogix still have a repair center?

ADI marketing Resideo 'conversion' for Interlogix:

Hi,

What product can i use to replace a Verex system that comprise of access and intruder? I will need something similar can take care of both access control and intruder under one platform.

NOTICE. The remaining Truvision US support staff's last day is December 31. After that support calls will be routed overseas. Last chance to get support from the team that has been supporting Truvision cctv for the past 15÷ years.

Just to clarify a few things out. In ME region the Intelogix Truvision Cameras are now being folded into the Aritech brand under the Carrier brand and will mainting the "Truvision" branding.