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** *** ******** ****:
- ************* *** ******** *** ***** *** be ********* ** ******* ** ****, e.g., ***** ****** ************ ***** ** lifted ** ****.
- ****** ******* ** **** * ****** vacation *** ** * **** *** Vegas ****.
*******, ** *** ******** ****:
- *** ************, **** ** **** * week *****, ****** ******** ** ****** then **** ** ****** ***** *********, which ********* **** *** **********.
- **** ** ****** ****** ** *** worst ***** ** **** * ***** show, ***** *** **** ******** ****** take *********** ******** / ******* ****. This **** **** ** ****** *** both ****** ** ****** *** ********** to *** ** *** *****.
- *** ***** ** ********* *** ** July ***** **** ****** **** ***** as * ****** *** ** ****** to *** **** ** **** ****.
- ******** ***** *********** *** *** ***** by **** *** **** ** ** does ** ****, *** ******* **** be **** ****** **** **** ********* in *** ** ****, **** ******** may ***** ** ****, ** ******** such ***** ******** ********.
- **** *** ** **** * ****** later *** **** ********* ** ********** might ****** ** **** ***** ****, either ** ***** ******** ********* ** because ** ******** *********** ********.
Attendance ************ ******** ********
** ***** ****'* ********** ** **,*** is ********* ** *****, *** ****, likely ** *,*** ** **,*** *********.
*******, ***** ** * ******* *** Reed. ** **** **** ********** **** likely ** **,***, * ****** ****** to **** ** *** *** **** of ******** ****** ****** *******, **** exhibitors **** ****** ** *** *** discounts, ***** *** ***** **** ** turnout. ** *** ***** ****, ** Reed, ****** **,*** ***, ** *** July **** **** *** **** **,*** people ******, **** ********** **** ** angry **** **** ****.
***** ** ********** *** ****, ***** Reed ******* **** *** **** ** do, ** *** *** **** **** the ******** **.
Cancelled ************* **** **
**** *** ******* **** ************* *** cancelled, **** ********, *******, ****, *******, etc., ********* **** ***** ****** **** temporarily **-****, **** ***** ****** ****:
** ** ********* ********** ********* ***** booth (********, *******, ***.), *** **** get ** **** ******* ******* ** issue *** **** ****? ***.
**** ** * ********, ********* ** how **** **** ***** ****** ****.
Credits ** ******* *********?
**** *** ******* ***** ******* ********** could *** ******* ** ******* *** their **** **********. *** *******, **** have ***** ** **** *** **** over ***** **** *** **** ******* to **** *** **** ****. ** exchanged ******** ***** **** **** *** clearest ******** *****:
*** ******* ******** *** ** ******* of ************* **** *** ********* ***** the ******** *****, ***** ** * rollover ** *** *** **** **** 2020 ****. ** ** *** ** the *** ** **** ***** ** early *****, **’** **** ** ******* floor **** *** *** ***** **** guidance ** *** ***********/**** ** *** content *** ***** ******** ** *** July *****, *** **** ** ** a **-*** **** *+ ****** ** the *** **** ****. ** **** time **’** **** ******* ** ********* you **** *******.
*******, ** ***** *** ************ *** already ******* **** * ****-****,******:
*’** ******* ********* **** ** **** Sales ****** **** ** ** ***’* attend *** **** *** ** *** push *** ********** ** **** *** in ***** ******* *******.
**** ***** *** ******* **** *** policy ** ** *** **** ********** would *** **** ****** *** *** others.
***** *** ******* ** ****'* ********, Reed **** *** **** ** ****-**** payments ** **** *** *** ********** the **** ******* *** **** ******.
***** ** * ********* ****. ** Reed ****** ********** ** ******* ** lose ***** ******* ** **** *** the **** ** **** (******), ** will ******** ***-**** ***** ***** **** longer-term ******* ** ***** ********. *******, if **** ****** *** ********** *** option ** ****-**** ** ****, ** would ****** **** ********** ******* *** 2020 **** ** ******, ***** **** clearly **** ** *******.
Handling ** ****** / ********
**** ************* ********* *********** ******** ***** how *** ********** / ********** ** the **** *** *******.
*******, **** ********* ** **** ****:
** *** **** **** ********** ****** multiple ****** ** ********* ******** *** consumer ******* ** **** ** *** municipalities, * *** ** ******** ** a ***** ***** **** ******* ** the *****-** ********, ****** ******/****** *** travel ****. *** ******** ******** ********, partner, ******** *** ******** **** **** points, ** **** ** ********* ******** information ** ********, ****** *** ****** guidance ** ****** ** *** ********. We ********** *** ******* *** *** security ********’* ****** ** ********** *** collaboration.
*** ***** ** *** ***** *** ISC ****, **** *** *** ********** declaring *** **** ***** *** ** postponed ** ********* **** **** * days ****** *** **** *** ********* / *********, *.*.:

************ ********* ** ****'* ****** ***** in ** **** *****:
- "****** **** **** **** ***% ****** the **** ** ***** **** * few **** *** ***** ***** **** we *** ** ***** ***** **** we *** ***** *** **** ** Freeman, ***** ************ *******, ***."
- "* ******* **** ******* *** * statement **** ** *** *** ***** ahead *** **** ******** ********* **** position **** * **** ***** ***** of **** ****** * ****** ******** and *** ** *******. * **** guarded ******* ********* ***** **** **** wise."
- "**** **** ** ***** ******* ** was ***** ***** **** ****, ** are ***** ** *********. ** **** due ** *** *** * **** after **** *********. *** ******* * flight ****** ***!!! "
- "********** / ************* **** ** *** very **** ****** *** **** ********* of ********* ****."
- "** **** **** **** *** ***** head ** *** **** *** ******* what *** ***** **, ***** ** until ** **** *********"
- "****** ** **** ** **** *** decision ******* **** ************ *** ********* in * ********* ******** ** **** the ********* **** ****** *** **** of *** ** ******** ****** **** putting ****** ******** ***** *** ******* the *** ** ** *** ***** thing"
- "* ***** **** *** ******* **** very ******, ********* **** *** **** will ******** *** *** ** ******* or ********. **** ****** **** **** people **** **** *** ******* ** various ************* *** ****** *** **** other ****** *** ***** **********. *******, they ****** ***** **** ** *** sand, *** *** *** **** ****, forcing ***** ****. ***********, ** **** companies **** **** **** ***** ****** over *******, *** *** ******* **** differently."
- "**** **** *** **** ** ******/********. Most ********* *** ******* ******* *** equipment ****** *** ***********."
- "**** ** *** *** *** ****** a **** ************. **** **** ******** in ***** ********** **** ** ***** go ** **** ********* **** ****** with * ****** **** ****."
- "**** ****** ***** ***** **** *** forced ** * ****** ** ********** (and ********** *********) ******** ***. *** writing *** ** *** **** *** a ***** ****** ****. *** **** been **** *********, ********** **** *** company ******'* **** *** ** ***** thousands ** **** ** ********* ** dollars ** ******* *** * ***** that **** **** **** ** ** stored *** * ****** ** ***** or **** **** *** ***** *** over ***** ** * **** ****."
- "***** ******** ** **** *** ********** bad. **** ****, *******, *** ****** of ****** *****. **** ******* “*** yes ***” *** ***** *** **** a *****, “**” * **** ****** the **** *** ********** ********* ******* us ******* ** ****. ** **********, I **** **** **** ******* *** them ******** ***** *****. **** ****** have ********* ***********, *** ********** * week ****** ***’* ******* ******."
- "*** ********* ** *** **** *** SIA ********** *** ************* ** *** health *** ****** ** ******** *** participants. ***** ** *** *** **** have ***** **** **********. **** ** a *** ********* *** ******** ** we *** ****** *** ******* *** cost. **** ** *** * **** sum **** ***** *** ********** *** to **** ***** **** *** ********** of ******."
Planned **** **** ************ ********
*** ************ ********* ** "*** **** do *** ***** *** ******* **** 2020 *** **** **** **** **?" broke **** ** *******:
- ****: *%
- **********: **%
- *** ****: **%
**** **** ****** ********** **** ***** voting '**********' ****** ********** ********, **** as:
- "****** **** **** ** ** ************* already **** ***** ********* ******* *** the ****."
- "*** **** ** ** ** *****. People ******* **** ******** ******."
- "********** **** *********** **"
- "***** ** *** ** ****, *** also ********* **** ********* ***. * think ** **** **** * **** lower **********."
- "*) ** **** **** *** ****** out? ... ** ****, ********** ** the ** *** ** **** **** their **** (****** *** **** **** be **** *** / ***** ****?) In *** ****, *********** ** ****** to ******** ** ** **** **** into *** (*+ ****** **** ***), making ** ********* *** ********** *** attendees ** **-******. *) **** **** is ****** ****** ******** *** **** of *** ******** **********, ** **** if **** ** *********** *** ********, attendance **** ** *** ******* ****** will **** ***** *****. ... *** not **** ** **** ** ** September?"
- "**** ****** **** ****** *** **** at **** *****. **** ***** ********* for **** ******. ******** *** ***** month ** ******** ******** ******."
- "**’* ***** ** ** ** *** middle ** *********’* ********. ********** **** be ****."
- "****** ** * ***** **** *** events, ***** **** ** **** ******** conflicts *** ********* *** **********. ****, July ** ***** ***'* *****."
- "**’* *** ** **** ** *****, many ****** **** ******** ** **** so *’* ********* **** ********** **** be ****."
- "***** ** *** ****** ** ****, and **** ***** ** **** ***** to ***? *****. **** **** ****** be ****** ********."
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- "**** ** * **** ******** ***** and *** ******* **** ** ***** in **** ** **** *** *******"
- "****** ** ********* **** ****** *** integrators *** ** *** *******. ********* a ***** **** ****** **** ****** may ** * ***** ****, ********** since ****** **** **** ** ********* from **** *** ********."
*** ******** ****** ************ ******** **** even *****, **** ********* ****:
*********** *** * ***** *** ** catch ** *** ********* **** * lot ** ******* *** ***** **** see *** ********. **** **** *****. I ***** **'* ** *** *** organizer ** **** ***** *** **. But, ******* ***** *** ******* ****** than **** *** ***.
Possibility ** ********** *** **** **** ****?
**** *** **** ******** **** **** than **** **** **** ********* *** question ** "**** ****** ** ***** that *** **** **** ***** ** further ********* ** *********? ************, **** is *** *********** ** ******* *********** warnings ** ************?" ******:
**** *********** ********* ** ******* ******* all ******* ** *** ** *** Global *****
**** ******** * **** ** ********** **** *********** ************** ********** **** *** ********** *** situation.
**** ************* ** ***** **** ***** they **** ****** **. **** **** think *** **** **** ******* **** is **** ** **** ****, ***** the ******** ********** ** *** ****.
** ** *** ****. ******, ** is ******** **** ******** ***** ***** the ****.
****, *** *** *** **** **** clearly ******* ***** ********** *** *** they **** **** *** **** *** next * ****** **** **** *** transient ** ********* *** ****** *******.
Raising ****** *** ****
**** ** **** *** ******* **** from ******* ******. ** ********* **** Reed **** **** *** ***** ******* their ***** *% *** **** ****, with **** ******: "*** ******* **** remain ** ** ****** ** *** 2021 *********." ***** ** * ****** comparison:

*** *** **** ******* ************ ******* *********.
Date ********* *** ****
*** **** *** ********* *** ***** - ****** ******* ********* **** ** -22nd:


Comments (64)
Brandon Scott
03/11/20 03:05pm
I think July is a horrible time! Most people already have summer vacations planned and Vegas will be more crowded than normal because of this.
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Undisclosed Manufacturer #1
I really like reports like this, that gather the general consensus and provide valuable insights from different people.
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Bryan McGee
However, on the negative side:
I would add:
Many of the contractors that assemble/disassemble the massive booths may not be available on short notice. I suspect they plan their schedules at least a year in advance.
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Undisclosed Manufacturer #2
The WHO has officially declared it a pandemic which I believe invokes the cancelation/refund clause in the contract.
The WHO Just Declared Coronavirus COVID-19 a Pandemic | Time
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Rick Caruthers
03/11/20 05:47pm
I'm concerned with the fact that they only mentioned July as the postponed time, not a particular date range in July..I guess I'm thinking that they are unsure that it will happen at all in July or else release the dates..IFSEC announced the postponed month and dates immediately..
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Undisclosed End User #3
Personally i do believe that the show should be cancelled until 2021 due to the nature of the worlds affairs. But, I do have a couple of immediate concerns.
1. Everyone seems to be discussing how the Exhibitors are being treated / handled in this situation. What about the Attendees? I know it's easier to get statements from the companies. But it would be nice to know what the attendees think of this.
2. I as an attendee have not received any e-mail or communications from Reed, SIA, or anyone for that matter that the show has been postponed. I had to hear it from IPVM. Granted it's another great reason why i subscribe to IPVM. But still.
Just my two loonies worth.
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Undisclosed #4
Why are the July dates not being published yet? They either have a space/location agreement, or they do not. If they have the agreement, people need to know ASAP to start planning travel and logistics around these dates. If they do NOT have confirmed days, then they shouldn't be setting any expectations yet.
This event is becoming a test of "how bad can we make ISC West 2020".
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Undisclosed Manufacturer #5
"Your Questions Answered", said the email I just received from ISC - but the top question was not answered (When in July?). Hmmm.
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John Honovich
One thing I forget to include is that we confirmed with Reed that they are still raising their price 3% for next year, with them noting: "The pricing will remain as is stated on the 2021 floorplan." Below is a comparison:
You may view the 2020 floorplan and the 2021 floorplan.
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Undisclosed #6
Does anyone know what is going on at Reed today?
I'm still being asked to prepare accordingly for July and instead, I'm sitting here utterly perplexed...so I thought maybe the IPVM community could provide some answers or advice...
NBA cancels until further notice....ISC West is a security show. And yes jobs depend on it and it makes up part of the security industry ecosystem and no doubt drives value within the security industry but it is not the NBA nor the Olympics, the Super Bowl...
And if the US travel ban is extended when many Schengen countries will not have reached their infection peak in 30 days does that mean no one from headquarters of Axis, Salto, Bosch, Boon Edam, the list could go on...can not attend? Or Reed will advise them to fly via London and Dublin? At least as the travel ban stands.
The delay to July (with no dates to shift travel or hotel bookings or ability to seriously mitigate and then plan accordingly) always seemed a little optimistic but surely now it's getting slightly less optimistic.
Or am I not understanding something that people maybe be aware of through dialogue with Reed? What am I missing here?
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Undisclosed Integrator #7
Sorry to be "that guy" but:
*might not abate by July
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Undisclosed
what about psatec
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Undisclosed Manufacturer #9
Any news about World Game Protection?
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Undisclosed End User #12
Canadian here -- we only get about ~16 weeks of summer. I am not spending any of that time cooking my face off in Vegas come July.
We are considering ISC east as an alternative.
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Undisclosed #11
Reed reimburses participants provides links to airline change fees...
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Undisclosed Manufacturer #13
The new dates will be announced today but they are July 20-22nd
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John Honovich
Confirmed, ISC West has announced the dates - Monday through Wednesday July 20 -22nd:
We've added a poll:
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Undisclosed Manufacturer #14
Awesome, I get to burn a weekend in July setting up for the show. I hope my company just postpones until 2021.
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Undisclosed #6
Can you add a totally disgusted/dismayed option on that poll?
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Undisclosed Manufacturer #2
ISC West July - Reed/SIA Cash Grab
The July show is merely a mechanism to recoup revenue for Reed/SIA and will be the worst attended show, of this size, in history. We will not be exhibiting.
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David Collins
Utterly disgraceful.
Are REED living on a different planet to humanity? Are they not reading newspapers, watching the news, listening to experts?
Shameful and shameless.
Why are they not doing the honourable, sensible and safe thing by simply cancelling, moving forward and preparing for 2021. Are they that gREEDy that they couldn’t bear refunding exhibitors.
All creditable health forecasters have stated that we (Europe and US) will be at peak-COVID-19 in June/July. What does REED know that the W.H.O do not?
Oh and one other thing.....if we have some global miracle and we all wish hard enough that this virus miraculously disappears who wants to go to Vegas in July......
If this wasn’t so serious it would be laughable
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Undisclosed #6
Based on predictions of the spread of the virus, the death rate and the age range of those most likely to die, many of us on this forum could be burying parents and other older love ones come July.
And so attendance numbers, floor space refunds, planned vacations, the heat in Las Vegas, etc. are certainly not top of my mind.
Money, career progression, and sales leads cannot bring the people you love back from the dead.
I would rather die myself than attend this utter disgusting, disgraceful debacle that puts money over human life otherwise known as ISC West. And not just this year, but any year thereafter.
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Brandon Scott
03/13/20 03:33pm
John - please unsubscribe me from this thread, its filled with to many negative comments from "undisclosed" people.
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Undisclosed Integrator #15
Didn't you ask this before on another thread? At the bottom of your email from IPVM is this link.
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Undisclosed Manufacturer #18
Date finally announced. July 20-22. In the Mojave Desert. www.iscwest.com ... In July.
If Covid still seems to be around in those conditions, they could set up outdoor decontamination showers which people would probably use just to cool down and avoid heat stroke.
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Undisclosed Manufacturer #20
Is anyone else experiencing complete silence from Reed? For several years we've always dealt with our "sales contact", but now, emails and phone calls are not being returned.
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Undisclosed Manufacturer #20
From a logistics standpoint, it makes is very difficult to plan when there is no communication. There are other trade shows that everyone has to plan for and those others aren't giving us the silent treatment.
I'm trying to think of any other company that would avoid calls and emails to hide behind the fine print in their contract.
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Undisclosed
I have seen two emails to speakers and a CFP for ISC East this year and ISC West next year. I have been assuming the SIA portion of the ISC West organization is still active...
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