Axis Cracks Down On Illicit Channel Sales

JH
John Honovich
•Published Nov 01, 2019 11:35 AM

Axis has stepped up efforts to crack down on illicit channel sales according to various industry sources, though, Axis denies this.

Online sales and poor margins have long been top Axis integrator complaints. This came to the forefront when we brought attention to how Arbitech was selling millions in unauthorized Axis, undercutting partners. But, at that time, Axis emphasized it would not block resellers and supported the 'free market'.

Illicit *********

** **** ***** * ******* *********, all ** ***** **** *** ******* up ******* ** ******:

  • ****** **** ***** ********* ** ***** prices *** ******** **** ****, *.*., what ******** **** **** **** *****.
  • ****** ****** ****** **** **** **** partners *** **** ******* **** ** online ***** ** ** ******** ** public ****
  • ***** **** ********** ** ********* *********, without ****** *** ****** ** *** them *** ****** *****.

Gold ******* *****

******* *** **** *********** *** **** the ***** ** **** **** ******* status. ******* *********** **** **** **** Partner ****** (********* **** ** ****** discounts) ***** ******* ** ********* **-**** those ******** ** ****** ******. ************ would **** ******* **** **** ** they ***** ******* ****** ****** **** Gold ******** ** ***** ******.

** **** *****, *** *********** **** because **** *** **** ******, *** Axis **** ******* ***** * *** points *** ***** *** ****-******* *** the ****** ***** **** ******** ** very *** ****** ** *** **** quickly ****.

Axis **** '********' ****

*******, *** ******** ** **** ********, was *** ***** *** ********* ************ of *****-**** **** ******** ****** **** it **** ********* *** **** ******** that **** ******** ******* ******** *** effectively ********* **** ****** ******* **** plenty ** ********* ** ********* *******.

Increased ***********

**** *** **** *** ***** ******* such ********* *** **** **** *** well ******** *** **** ****. *******, over **** ******, ******* ******* *** that **** *******-** ***********, **** ********* checking *** *** ****** ****, ***** projects **** **** *** *** ******* Gold ******** **** ******** ** ****** sellers.

*** ****** ** **** *** **** much-reduced ********* / ************ ** **** products ****** *** ******* ************ ************.

Nothing *** **** ****

*******, ****'******* *********** **** ** ******:

****actively *** ************ ******* the policies and requirements of our Channel Partner Program and the benefits it brings to our distributors, systems integrators and resellers--and ultimately our end-customers. The only changing dynamic to our program is that we continue to grow and welcome new integrators, which may add greater visibility to our efforts and underscore our commitment to partners. Overall, the cornerstone of our program is trusted relationships, so it’s important to protect that integrity. [emphasis added]

** ********** **** ***** *** **** no ****** ** *********** ** ***********, adding ** ********:

** **** ****** **** **** ****** in **** **** ** ****** *** policies. **** ****** ** **** ***** resources ** *** ******* **** *** years, *** *** ***** ** ******* the ******* *** ******** ******, ** we *** **** ********* ***** **** we **** ** ** ***********.

Not ******** *** ****** ****** *** ************

********* ****** ********* **** ******* **** ****:

******* ** ***** ** ***** ********* from ****** ******** ******* ************.

**** **** ** ***** **** ** not *********** ******** ********* ** **** as ****** ** ****** *** **** costly *** ************ **** ** *** access ** *** ****.

Winners *** ******

*********, ****** ********* **** *** **** integrators ***** **** ******** *** **** this.

*** ***-*****, ** *** ** *****, as **** ************ ** ***-**** **** products *** *** / ****** ******** could ***** ** ********* ***-**** ******.

*** *** ****, **** **** ****** some ********* *** *** *** **** to *** * ****** *****. *** it ** **** ********** ** ****** where ***** ******** *** *****.

** *** ***** ****, ** **** can ****** ******** *** ****** ***** partners **** *** ******** **********, ********** and ********* *******, ** ***** ** better *** *** **** **** *** integrators ** *** **** ***.

Return ** *** Enforcement?

** ***** ** ** ***** ******** that, **** ****, ***** *** ***** work ******** *** *** ****** **** of ******* ****** ******* *** ******** work *** ****** **** **** ***** return ** *** ***********. *******, *** now, **** ** ** *********** ***********.

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Comments (40)
UM
Undisclosed Manufacturer #1
•Nov 01, 2019

**** ** **** ***** **** ***** other ****, ** *******. *** *** online ********* **** ***** ***** *** try *** ** *** ******* *** a *****. **** **** **** ** forgets *** ********** **** **** ** normal. * **** **** * *** of *********** ***** **** *** **** to *** * ********* *** ** this, *** **** ******'* ********. ***** are **** *** **** **** **** dealers ******* ** **** ******* ** Axis ******** *** *** **** **** to **** *-******** *******. ***** ** easier ** *** **** ******* ******.

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JH
John Honovich
•Nov 01, 2019
IPVM
In reply to Undisclosed Manufacturer #1

***** *** **** *** **** **** Gold ******* ******* ** **** ******* of **** ******** *** *** **** door ** **** *-******** *******.

* ***** **** ***** *** **** of ******* *** **** ** **. However, *** ******** ** ***** ****. They **** ******** ** ********* **** in *** **, ** ** ****** that **** *** **** ** ***** massive ********* **** **** *******? **** seem ** ** ***** ** ***?

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U
Undisclosed #2
•Nov 01, 2019
IPVMU Certified

** ** **** ** *** ******** blocking *** *********, **** *** **** doing **** *********** ***********?

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JH
John Honovich
•Nov 01, 2019
IPVM
In reply to Undisclosed #2

**** *** **** ***** **** *********** enforcement?

**** *** ******** ** ***** **** Gold ******* **** ******* ** **** online ****** ** ********* ******* **** status *** **** ** ****** ******. Those ****** ****** ***** *** *** but **** ****** ** *** ********* they ********** ********, ***** ********** *** whole ***** ** ******** ******** ****** or ** ****.

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U
Undisclosed #2
•Nov 01, 2019
IPVMU Certified
In reply to John Honovich

**** *** ******** ** ***** **** Gold ******* **** ******* ** **** online ****** ** ********* ******* **** status *** **** ** ****** ******.

******** ********* **** ***** ** * big ****, * ***** ******* **** would ******* **** *** *** ******* would ** ***** **** ****...

**** *** **** ***** ** ***** of *** ******** *********?

JH
John Honovich
•Nov 01, 2019
IPVM
In reply to Undisclosed #2

**** *** **** ***** ** ***** of *** ******** *********?

*** **** **** **** *** ****** the ****** *** **** **** * saw *** ******** *** ****** **** Arbitech ** **** ***** ****** *** significantly *******.

*** ******* **, **** ** **** size, **** * ******* ******* ***** of ****** **** ******* (*** ** Axis ******, ****'* *** * **** amount ** ******* :), **** *** relatively ****** ****** ***** ** ** going** **** ****.

******* **** ***** ******* **** *** the ******* ***** ** *****

***, ** **********, *** ***** ******* getting *** ****** *** **** ******. And, *** ****, *** ****-**** ******** is **** *** ******** ***** ******* some ***** *** **** *******. ** course, *** **** ** **** **** don't *** **** ******** *** **** lose ** * **********.

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Sean Nelson
•Nov 01, 2019
Nelly's Security

** ******** ** *** ******** ** in **********, * **** ** ******* that ************ *** ************* ****** ******* out *** ** ********* ** **** thing ***** **** ********* *** **** 20 ***** ***. ** ********* ** what * ******** **** ** **** "the ********".

*** *** **** **** * ********** MAP ******* ****** *** ******** ******* it?

***** * **** **** ************* **** into * *** ********* *********'*, *** of ***** *** ** ******:

#*) "*** **** *** **** ** enfore **."
********: **** * *** (** **** 2) *** $**/** ***** **** ******* is ** ****** *** ********* *** day ** **** *** *************. **** purchases *** ***** *** ****** ******* down *** ******** ******** *** **** them ***/** **** **** ****. *********, prepare ** **** **** ******** **** online ********** ** *** **** *** wants ** **** **.

#*) "** ***** ****** ***** *** dont **** * *** ******."
********: ******** ****. *** ***. *** are ********** ************ **** **** *** no ***** ** **** *****.

#*) "** **** *** ***** ****** sales ** ***."
********: **** ***** ***** *** ************* who **** ******** ** ********** *** have **** ******* **** *** ***** channel.
*** *** ************* *** **** ******* distribution, *** *** ******* ******** ** for *******.

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UI
Undisclosed Integrator #5
•Nov 03, 2019
In reply to Sean Nelson

** ******** ** *** ******** ** in **********, * **** ** ******* that ************ *** ************* ****** ******* out *** ** ********* ** **** thing ***** **** ********* *** **** 20 ***** ***. ** ********* ** what * ******** **** ** **** "the ********".

**** ***** ******** ***** ** **** a ***.

(2)
UI
Undisclosed Integrator #3
•Nov 01, 2019

** ******* ** ****** ** ** Photo * **** **** ** ** to ** *** *******?

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JH
John Honovich
•Nov 01, 2019
IPVM
In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #3

* **** **** ** ** ** my *** *******?

***, ****** ** ********, **** ** you **** ** *** *******, *** still ***'* *** * *********** ******** from *** ****** **** ***** *** a ******, ***., *****?

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UI
Undisclosed Integrator #3
•Nov 01, 2019
In reply to John Honovich

********** **** *******, ** *** ***** is ***** ** ******* ******* ** P5635-E ****, ****. * ** ***** not **** ** *** ****** **** finding ***** ***** **** ******* ******. I **** **** ******** ** *** through * ******** **** ****** ** a **** *****, ******* **% *** MSRP, *** *** *** **** **** to **.

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MM
Michael Miller
•Nov 01, 2019
In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #3

** **** ******** * **** *******? Or *** *** ******** **** ****** and ** *****?

UI
Undisclosed Integrator #3
•Nov 04, 2019
In reply to Michael Miller

* **** *** ***** ** **** are ****. * ***** ****** ** given *** ***** ***** ********** **** sell **. ** * ** *** buy **** ****** ** ** *****.

JH
John Honovich
•Nov 01, 2019
IPVM
In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #3

********** **** *******, ** *** ***** is ***** ** ******* ******* ** P5635-E ****, ****

* ******* **** *** ***** ** equal ** ******* *******, ******, ** clarify, ******* ** *** ******* **** at **** *** **** ***-******* ******** off ****. * ***'* **** ******* Axis **** ******* ***** *** * thought ** ******* ** ~**% *** MSRP.

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U
Undisclosed #2
•Nov 02, 2019
IPVMU Certified
In reply to John Honovich

*&*

****? (*** ****)

***

************ *****

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UI
Undisclosed Integrator #3
•Nov 04, 2019
In reply to John Honovich

** ***** ******* *** ** *** dated, ****** ****, *** **** * checked **** **** ** ****, * did **** ***** *** ***** ******.

U
Undisclosed
•Nov 04, 2019
In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #3

*** ***** ** ** *** ****** up ** "****** ***** - *** Game ** ******* *******", ** ** a *** *** ** **** ********? Are ***** *** ****** ************ *** sell ****** **** *** *** *** guys? ** ** ***** ** ****** there *** ********* *** ***** *** up ******* ****** ******** **** **** legitimate ***** ******** ** ****? ** an *** **** *** **** ****** wanted ***** *** **** ****** ** integrators **** * ******* **** ****? No, *** ** ** * *** VMS ** ********** *****.

UI
Undisclosed Integrator #4
•Nov 02, 2019

*** *** **** **** ******* *** reseller ***** *** ***** **********?

***** *** ******** ** *** *******, there ****** ** ** **** ** justify ******* ******* ** ******

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U
Undisclosed #2
•Nov 02, 2019
IPVMU Certified
In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #4

***** *** ******** ** *** *******, there ****** ** ** **** ** justify ******* ******* ** ******

***** ** **** **** ****** ** that ****

(2)
UI
Undisclosed Integrator #4
•Nov 02, 2019
In reply to Undisclosed #2

****** ** ********** ***** ** *****

(1)
U
Undisclosed #2
•Nov 02, 2019
IPVMU Certified
In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #4

****** ** ********** ***** ** *****

****** ***** ********* **** **** ********* ;)

(3)
JS
Jonathan Strauss
•Nov 03, 2019

**** *** ** **** ******** ***, the *** ***** ***** (**** * Series) *** ** ****** *** *** higher-end *** ** ** ******* ***** and ******, ** ****'* **** ********** integration ********.

**** *** **** *** *** *** online ******** *** ******* ****** ******* on *** **** *** *******.

** ** **** *** *** ******** the ******* ** **** ********* ** the *** **** ** ******* **** market. **** ** ****** ***** *** Aruba ***** **-**** ******** *** ****** $800, ******* *** **** **** **** a ******** ***** *** *********** ****** the ***** *** ****** *** ******, when *** *** ** ******** ** you ***'* ** **** ** ******* the ******* **** **** ***** ** go ** ** ******* *** ********** owner.

U
Undisclosed #2
•Nov 04, 2019
IPVMU Certified
In reply to Jonathan Strauss

** ** **** *** *** ******** the ******* ** **** ********* ** the *** **** ** ******* **** market.

**** ** ****** ***** *** ***** 2930F **-**** ******** *** ****** $***...

** * ********, ** *** *** just *** *** **** **** ************ ******, ***-********** *** ******** ********* online ** ***** **** ***-*********** **** would ******* **** **** ******* ** the **** ******?

JS
Jonathan Strauss
•Nov 04, 2019
In reply to Undisclosed #2

* ***** ** ***** **** ***** a ********** ******** **** ********** **, say **** * *** *** **** the ********** ******.

UD
Undisclosed Distributor #6
•Nov 03, 2019

*** ** *** *** ******** **** online ***** ********* *** ********** ********* is *** ******* ********. ********* **** low ****** ****** ***** ********* ****** zero *******. *** ********* **** ******** the ********** ***** *** *******. **** the ***** ***** **** **, ******* they *** *** **** *** **** & **** **** ** $$ *** of **, **** *** *** *****.

**** **** *** ***** **** **** badmouth *** ******* ** ****** ** support ***. **** **** ***** **** the ******* ***** **** ********* ***** ultimately ***** ** **** ***** ** the ************.

*** ** *** ****** ** *** the ***** *********** ** *** *** following ****** ** ***** *** *** of ***** ******* ******* - ** the **** ** ********** ****** **** pricing ********** ** *** ******* ****** you *** * *******. ** *** re ****** **** *** **** *** right ** ********** *** *******.

** ** ** *** ****** ** partners ******** ** ** ******* ** serial ****** **** ** *** ******** distributor, *** ************* ** *** ****** availability *** ******** & *** ***** penalties *** *****.

*** ****** *** ** **** ****** is ** ******* *** ***** & protect *** ************ ******* *** *** way ** *** *********.

**** ****** ***** **** ** * have ***** **** **** ** **** the ******** ******* ****** ** *** online *****

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U
Undisclosed #2
•Nov 04, 2019
IPVMU Certified
In reply to Undisclosed Distributor #6

**** ****** ***** **** ** * have ***** **** **** ** **** the ******** ******* ****** ** *** online *****.

***** ********?

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UI
Undisclosed Integrator #3
•Nov 05, 2019
In reply to Undisclosed #2

* ****** ****** **** ***** **** back *** ******* ** ** ***** investigate *** ***. * **** **** disappointed.

JB
Jason Brown
•Nov 04, 2019

*** ****** ******** ** ****** ******. I ******** ***, *** ************* ****** NOT **** ** ****** *** ****** sellers. **** ****, **** ****** *** sell ** ***** ******-**** ******* *** less **** *** ****** *** *** truly ***** ********. ****** *** *** actively ******* ******** *** ******** ************* and ********* ********* ************* ** ******* the *** ********* ** ***** *****.

** ************* ***** ******* **** * commodity, **** **'* ** ****** ******* and ***-***** ****** *** *****. **** is ****** ** ***** * ***** part ** *** ****** *** *** Dahua ****** ** ********. ******* *** tired ** ***** ******** ***** **** online ***** ***** ****. **'* **** to ****** * ******** **** * camera *** *** ******* ** * thin **-**% ****** ** ****** *** over *** *** ** *-**% ***** your ****. ** ***** **** *** are ******* *** **** ****** ** they ****** *** ****** ****** *** a ********** ****** ****** ** **** and *** *** **** ****** **** pockets.

*'* *** *** ****** ******** ******* better *********, *** ***** ******-***** ***********. When **'* **** *********** *** ****** a ******* ******* ***** ******** *** no ****** ******* **** ****** ****.

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Mark Palka
•Nov 04, 2019
IPVMU Certified

**** ** * *** ******** *** AXIS ** **** *** ******* *** loyalty **** ******* **** **** ** first ******* ******* ***** **** *** not *****.

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U
Undisclosed #2
•Nov 04, 2019
IPVMU Certified
In reply to Mark Palka

**** ** * *** ******** *** AXIS ** **** *** ******* *** loyalty **** ******* **** **** ** first ******* ******* ***** **** *** not *****.

******** ******** *** ****** ** ****** sales **** ***** ************** ******* ** *** ********* *******, no?

**** ****** **** ** *******?

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Mark Palka
•Nov 05, 2019
IPVMU Certified
In reply to Undisclosed #2

*** ** ******* ** ** ******** is ****** ****** ** *** ******* and ********* **** * *******. ** all *** **** ****** ** ***** and *** *** ******* ***** *** sale **** **** *******. *** **** to ***** ****** ***** ****** *** reduces **** ** ***** *** ** me ********** *** *****. *** *** be ***** *** *** ** * become **** *****.

(1)
U
Undisclosed #2
•Nov 05, 2019
IPVMU Certified
In reply to Mark Palka

*** **** ** ***** ****** ***** simply *** ******* **** ** ***** and ** ** ********** *** *****.

*’* ******** ******.

**** ***** ********* ** ***** *** axis ** ****** ****** *****, ***** than ******** ** **** ** ***** partners *** *** ******* ** *** online *********?

JH
John Honovich
•Nov 05, 2019
IPVM

****:**** *** * ** ******** ****(**** ****, ******, ***. ******** ******), screencap:

**** ********* *** **** ** *** complete, ******, *** ******** *** *** out. * *** ********** ** ******** this ** *** *** **** ** become **** ******** *** ***** ** no ******** ****** **** ** ****.

U
Undisclosed #2
•Nov 05, 2019
IPVMU Certified
In reply to John Honovich

**** ********* *** **** ** *** complete, ******, *** ******** *** *** out.

******, **’* ***** ** ****** **** to *** ***, **?

JH
John Honovich
•Nov 05, 2019
IPVM
In reply to Undisclosed #2

**** ** *** ***, **?

** ** *** * **** ******* that **** ******, * ***** ***** they ***** **** *** ** ** listed *****.

U
Undisclosed #2
•Nov 06, 2019
IPVMU Certified
In reply to John Honovich

** ** *** * **** ******* that **** ******, * ***** ***** they ***** **** *** ** ** listed *****.

****, *** * ******* *** **** partners ****’* ******** **** ****** **********, but *** **** *******-****?

  • ****** ****** ****** **** **** **** partners *** **** ******* **** ** online ***** ** ** ******** ** public ****
UI
Undisclosed Integrator #4
•Nov 11, 2019

*** ****** **** ** *** ******** percentages *** ******/**** ******

** ** **** ****** ******** $*** volume *** ******* ** ******* *** Gold ******** $***/*******

*** **** **'** *** ** *** Gold ***** , *** *'* **** to ********** *** ********.

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Sean Patton
•Nov 13, 2019

*** *********, ****'* * ******* ***** requirements *** ******** *** ****** ****:**** ******* *********

** ** ********** ** ** **** Partner, **** ******** **** ****** ******** 27% *** ** ****. ************, *** need ** **** **** *** **** 2 "**** ********* *************" ** ***** to ***** **** ******.

***** * **** **** ****** *** a ****** ******* *** * ***** time (****** ******** **** ***** ******), I ****** *** ******** *** ****** in *** *** **% *****, ******** 21 - **%. ** ***** ** lower, *** ** *** *** $*** mark ****** *******.

******* ******* ******* ********* **** **** is ******* (** * *******, *************), typically ********* * $*** *******, *** only ********* ** ** ***** *-*% off ** **** ********** ***** (*** 1-3% *** ** ****).

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MM
Michael Miller
•Nov 14, 2019
In reply to Sean Patton

**** **** ** **** ****** *** partner's ******* ********* *** **** ******** up *** **** *********. ** ***'** a **** ******* *** **** * slow ***** **** **** *** **** to ******. *** *** ******* ****?

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Sean Patton
•Nov 14, 2019
In reply to Michael Miller

** ** ***** ******** ****** ** review *** **** ******** ** *** down, *******, *** ***** * ****** slow *****.

** ** ********** ** **** ** years ******* *** **** **** ********, we *** *** *** ****** **** based ** * ****** ******* ***** $70,000, ** **** ** ** **** continuing ** ******** ********, ****** *** Axis *** ** ******* ** ********* booths, *** ******* **** **** *********. We ***** **** **** **** * quarter ***** $**,***, ******* ******* ** project/bidding/budgetary ******, ***** ****** *** ********* quarter ** ****** $**,*** *************.

** **** ******* ** ****** *** a ***** ****** **** **** ******** the * **** ********* **** *********** but ******* *** * **** ****** certified. **** *** ***** ****** ** warning **** ****, *** ************ ********** management.

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