Avigilon Announces 10K / 61MP H5 Pro Camera

By Sean Patton, Published Oct 05, 2020, 11:56am EDT (Info+)

Avigilon announced its 10K / 61MP H5 Pro camera at the 2020 IPVM Fall New Product Show, more than doubling its previous highest resolution camera.

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In this report, we share:

  • 30-minute video with IPVM Q&A and transcript
  • Product Overview
  • How is Avigilon marketing 61MP use?
  • Compared to Hanwha 8K / 33MP (tested)
  • Pricing and Availability

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Comments (14)

Does Avigilon have a preference for lens manufacturers (Did they test with various lenses)? Once the megapixels start piling up a good lens is night and day (so is the price).

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I emailed Avigilon to get clarification about this; I will post any details they provide.

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We will offer lenses from Tamron, Sigma, and Canon for the H5 Pro line.

Our engineering team has tested all offered lenses for both compatibility and image quality.

As of current testing, the Tamron 70-200mm and Tamron 90mm have shown the best image quality on the 61MP. I would hesitate to say it's a "preference" on our end as Sigma and Canon will have lenses that work on the 61MP as well.

Much like the H4 Pro generation, lens choice is going to be very specific depending on the scene, desired use/PPF required, and budget, but that is something that our sales engineering team will absolutely assist with, including test shots with various lenses if needed.

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That's correct - we queried multiple lens manufacturers for their recommendation on lenses that would work well at 61MP and then confirm their performance with our internal testing. We'll provide guidance in the ordering information on which ones work best at 61MP. This combined with other standard vendor assessment, drives our recommendation for certain manufacturers and models.

We will continue to keep an eye on the market to see what newer lenses may bring to the table.

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Ok, who is in line to get this online with SpaceX? Also...link the datasheet!

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Normally, I'd be more than happy to link a datasheet, but no such link exists!

The H5 Pro line is still in beta, meaning datasheets still aren't finalized. The snip in the original article above shows "to be confirmed" on a couple of items and I can confirm that is very much the internal picture as well. There is still a lot of testing and work to be done on this line!

If you have a specific question about the H5 Pro, I'm more than happy to try and answer (but forgive me in advance if I have to dodge!).

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This is very impressive. I wonder how long it will take for resolutions like this to be mainstream like 4K is now.

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I think it will take quite some time. The 24 megapixel unit came out in 2015 and only Hanwha has released a competitive product 5 years later. I'm not certain if the market is too niche for others to have interest. The lack of competition has given Avigilon free reign over many stadiums for quite a while.

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To add to that, Avigilon released 29MP in 2011, so it's been nearly a decade with minimal movement of max resolution.

Maybe widespread usage of 8K in the consumer market helps adoption in video surveillance, I am not sure. But if the next decade is anything close to the last, it looks like max resolution growth will be slow.

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Interesting, thanks for the info. If I had to guess, we will largely see an end to 1080p within five years, at which point 4MP will be the bottom resolution and 4K 30fps should be fairly mainstream. Another decade following that and 8K should be mainstream.

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Is Avigilon still encrypting the primary resolution stream on the higher resolution H5 Pro cameras as they are currently doing on the prior gen (24L-H4PRO-B and 30L-H4PRO-B)? I forgot to ask this question during the live stream.

I realize you cannot even get a RTSP of a primary stream when operating at default resolution and the secondary stream is considerably lower res (2 MP vs 30 MP).

Furthermore, is there any way at all to pull these streams from the camera or ACC at full resolution into another viewing client? I'm not surprised if you can't, I'm just curious if anyone has been able to do it via SDK or jury-rigged.

I have not seen this within any general documentation that is available on Avigilon's website about the H4 or H5 Pro.

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I have the 26MP H5A connected to WAVE VMS and getting full res. I will say you're going to get away better streaming experience with Avigilon ACC and HDSM, especially over a WAN connection.

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The key factor is HDSM. Is the reason that other manufacturers cannot compete. Is no only about resolution. Is about manage this resolution.

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I took a look at an H4Pro in Nx Witness 4.1.0.31398 (WAVE VMS), and it doesn't look like the 30L can pull full resolution (not surprised), so I assume this may be new to the H5 Pro series.

BTW, the SDK (ACC-SDK-DEV) is almost four large?

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