Hanwha 8K / 33MP Camera Tested

By Ethan Ace and Derek Ward, Published Sep 14, 2020, 12:03pm EDT (Research)

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**** ****** ** ** **** *****?

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  • *** **** ***** ******* ******* ** full ***** (~*** ***), *** ***** (~2 ***), *** **** (~*.** ***) scenes?
  • *** **** ** ******* ** ****-***** scenes?
  • *** **** **** ** ********* ** common *****-***** *****?
  • *** **** *** ****** **** ***** H.265, *.***, *** **********?
  • *** ******** ********* ** *** ****** streaming ** * ***********?
  • *** ***** ** *** ****** ***-**** compared ** ***** *** *******?

Executive *******

** *** *****, *** **/**** ***-**** outperformed ****' **** *** ** ******* and ******'* *** ** **** ** daytime (~*** ***), *** ***** (~*-* lux), *** **** ****** (~*.* ***), with ******* ******* ******* ** *** ranges, *** ******** ***** ********.

************, *** ***-****'* *****-** ** ********* performed *********** ******* ** *********** ** ******* ** **** ******, **** ****** ***** ***** ********** and ******** ********* ** ****** *** vehicles.

*******, ** ******** **** ******* ********* issues, ********* **** ******** (~** **/* and ** ** *** *****) ******* framerate **** ******** ***** ******, ******* frames ** **** *****, *** *********** increases ** *** *** ****** *********** compared ** ** ****** ** **** tested.

Improvements ** **** *** *****

******* ** ** ******* ********* **** the **** *** *****, ** ** likely **** **** ** *** ***-****'* issues **** ******* **** *** **** few *****, ** *** ************ *** added, ******, *** ********, *** ** is ****** **** *** ***** **** decrease ** ********** ******** ** *******, GPU ******* *** ** *.*** ******* more **********, ***. *******, *** ***** looking ** **** **** ****** *********, they ****** ********* ******** ***** **** camera ** ********** *******.

*******

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***-**** ** ****** ** ***** ** other *****-****** ******, **** ** ******* *****(~$*,***-*,***, ********* ** ****), *** ***** notably **** *********, ****** **** ****** resolutions (**** **. ****).

Stream **** **** *** ********

****** *******, ** ******* ******* *********** of ****** ****-**** *** *********. *** most ****** ***** ***** *** ***** rate ******** **** ~** *** **** to ~*-**, *** **** ******** ** scenes **********.

************, *** ****** ***-****'* **** ****** occasionally ***** *** *** *** **********. However, **** ******** **** ******* ****, with ********** ******* **** ** ********. In *** ******* *****, ** *** see *** ******* ******* ** *** scene ** *** ***-****'* ********* ***** stream, *** ** *** *** ** enter *** ***** ** *** ** stream *** ** * ****-**** "******".

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Hanwha ********

** *** ***********, ****** ********* **** decoding/rendering *********** **** **** ********* ** which *** ** **** ** **** as ******** *************, ** **** ** or ** *** ******* ****** *** decoding ** ***** ***** ****.

*******, ** *** *******, ***** ****** occurred ** ******** *****, ** ******** machines, **** ******* ******** *****, ********* below.

Strong *** ***********

*** ****** ***-**** *** **** ** be ***** *** ********** ** *** major ***** ****** ** *** ** resolution. ****** **** ****** *** ********* were ********* ** *** ***** ****** Avigilon.

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Secondary ****** ***** ** ******

** *** *******, *** ***-**** ***** the **** ********** ****** ** **** as * ***** ********* ****** ** two ******** *******, ***** ***** ** Genetec ** ** *******. *** ********* stream *** ** ******* ***** ****** and **** ******* **** **** *** license ** *** ***** ******.

Resource ********* *******

**** *********, *** ****** ***-**** ********* CPU ***** *************, ********** **** ******* the **** ********** *.*** ******, ***** here:

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*** ************ ***** **** ***** **** a **** **** *********** **** ********* GPU:

  • **** **-***** *.****
  • ** ** ***
  • ****** ******* *** ****

********* ** ***** ******** **** **** substantial, **** * *** **** ****** jumping ** ***% *** ***** **** viewing *.*** *** ~**% **** ******* H.264 (* *** **** **, **** RAM, ***** **** **** ********).

***** ****** ** ***** ** ***** issues *** ********* ******** *********** ***** when ******** ** *** *** ***-****.

***** ***** ********* ***********

*** ***-****'* ******** **** ********** ** were **-**% ***** **** ************ ***** when ** *** ********, **** *** and *****.

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******* ******** **** ******* ****** **** 4K *** **** ****** ******, ***** averaged However, ********* ******** ** *** ***-****'* full ** ****** **** ******* ** Axis' ****, **** ~** **/*.

Strong ***** *** ***** *********** (~*-* ***)

*** ****** ***-**** *** ****** ***** low ***** ******* ** ******* *** levels. ** ~* *** ~* ***, the **** ******* *** ** **********, the ***** ** ******** **** ** line *, *** **** ****** *****. Below * ***, *** ******* **********, and **** ***** ******* *** ****** are ***** ************.

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Compared ** **** *****

******** ** *** **** **** ****** in ~* *** *** *****, *** Hanwha ***-**** ** ********, ** ****** on *** ***** ***** *** ****** discernible, **** **** ***** ** *** subject's **** *** **** *****.

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** *.* ***, *** ****** ***-**** is **** ***** **** *** **** Q1659, **** ****** **** ***************. ******* appear ****** ** ****** **** * grayish *** ******** ** ****.

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Compared ** ** *******

******** ** ** *******, *** ****** 8K ** ******, ****** *** **** Q1798-LE *** * ******** ***** *****. The ****** ** ******* ******** ****** than *** **** **, *** ***** produces ****** ***** *** ****** *******.

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** *.* ***, *** ****** ***-**** is ******* *********, **** ***** *** eye ***** ******* ***********. *** **** Q1798-LE ** ***** ** ****, *** chart ******* *** ** ********. *** Hanwha ** **** *** ******* **** details ** **** ***** *****, **** vague ****** *** *********** ****.

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Full ***** ***** *******

**** ***** ***** ******* ** *****, with ******* *** ***** ******* ****** viewable.

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** ******* *********, *** ******'* **** resolution ** ******* *** ********, ** more *****, ******* *** ***** ******* are *******.

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Strong ****-***** ***** ***********

****** ** * **** ************ **** scene, *** ****** ** ******** ********** increase ** ******* ******. *** *******, license ****** **** ******* ******* ** cars ******* **** **** *** ************ on **** *** ****** ** *** Axis ****. ** * ****** ******** (~200'), * ********* ***** *** **** is ****** ********, ** ******* ** the **** **** ***** ******* ********** desaturated *** *******.

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Hanwha ** *********

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** *** *******, *** ***-****'* *****-** analytics ********* *********** ******* ** *** PNV-A9080R, **** ** ***** ****** **** foliage, *******, ******, *******, ** ****** and ******** ********* ** ****** *** vehicles. *** *** **** **** ********'* ** ************ ** *******, ** **** ** an ******** **** ** ***** ******** analytics *** ******.

Hanwha ***** ******

*** ****** ***-**** **** * **.*** full-frame **** ******, ***** ** ********** larger **** *** ****' ***-*. *** two *** ***** ***** **** ** side.

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Large **** ******

*** ****** ***-**** ** * ***** box **** ******, ******* ****** **** other ***** ****** ****** **** ** Axis' *****, *** *********** ****** **** typical-size *** *******, **** ** *** Bosch ***** *****.

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Made ** *****

*** ****** ***-**** ** **** ** Korea.

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Lenses *** ******** ****

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Comments (16)

Is B&H an authorized partner? Wow they are selling these cheap

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I believe you saw the $3,500 housing, not the $8,500 camera.

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Note that it is a "special order" item from B&H. They don't stock it. You have no idea if they can actually deliver it for that price. I assume they list it at a certain percentage for SEO, etc. Once you place the order, then they order it from distribution for a drop ship, but IMHO, they will cancel the order. They will say it is not available or a price mistake, most likely....

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Send me your CC info and I would be happy to test that theory :)

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B&H is selling it for thousands less than others online, e.g., it's up for over $13,000 elsewhere.

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Hanwha emailed me:

You will find B&H on the "Unauthorized Reseller List"

What this means is no warranty support.

Hanwha tracks 100% of product Serial Numbers and anyone on this list including Amazon, Ebay etc gets no Warranty support. If an end user buys from you they get 5Years. This is why Support always requires a Serial Number to get service.

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That's a $4500 price difference though, if you buy two cameras the savings alone covers the cost of a replacement. If you buy more then "self insuring" is the more cost effective route.

I have seen similar price differences in watch sales from sites like JOMASHOP that sell with their own (perhaps reduced) warranty as opposed to buying direct from a manufacturer in a high end shop and getting their warranty.

If I were buying 20 cameras, then saving $90,000 is 100% worth it. Anything I am missing with their strategy? Is that $13k only until I call for pricing and get a discount?

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Well if Hanwha wanted to stop this I am sure they can but they never do....

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HI,

Great review, thanks. What is the motion blur like at low light levels, please?

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H265 requires higher cpu utilization on workstation compared to H264 compression! Is this valid across all resolutions or particularly only for such high res camera?

Do you face the same higher CPU utilization for Axis 20MP or 4K model?

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CPU usage goes up 10-20%, depending on the machine, when looking at the 20MP Axis H.264 stream. It doesn't have an H.265 stream. 4K cameras generally increase CPU by only a few percent, maybe 2-3%. That could be a bit higher with very high bandwidth streams, but 4K camera bandwidth has gotten better over the past few years.

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Thanks Ethan.

I am aware 4K H264 generally require higher CPU utilization on the workstation side. I just didn't expect to see such a drastic CPU toll on H265 stream. Maybe only in this case due to the high 33MP throughput?

Was there any other CPU load comparison or stats for other camera models in H264 and H265?

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Nice. Give it five years and 8K will be a consumer item just like 4K is now.

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Regarding CPU performance, since it is such as high-resolution camera, the documentation states that the recommended CPU is an Intel i9 or better... Not sure if that makes a huge difference.

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"The measurements above were taken from a high spec workstation with dedicated GPU:

  • Core i7-8750H 2.2GHz
  • 40 GB RAM
  • Nvidia GeForce RTX 2070"

Yeah, not sure why they thought using specifications that were lower than the recommended was a good idea; pretty poor decision IMPO. Maybe they will realize and provide an updated test.

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