Camera Calculator V3 Need Help? Ask Here

We are making this a 'sticky' at the top of the discussions to help anyone using the Camera Calculator. This is for the new V3 calculator (feature overview here) and replaces the old discussion thread for the V2 calculator that had 170+ comments.

Just ask your question in the comments.

Related, here is our tutorial video for the Calculator below:

Again, need help, have a suggestion, just ask in the comments.


Thanks Sean! that should do it.

You can use a single segment of the Polyline Tool as a ruler. From the Calculator Guide:

Using Polyline as a Ruler

The Polyline tool will display the total length of the line when you draw it and have it highlighted. To use it as a ruler, select the Polyline tool, click where you want to start your measurement, and then click twice where you want to measure. The Calculator will display the length in feet or meters.

The Calculator does not support a multi-segment line, just a single line.

Hi guys,

Would it be possible to add a measuring tool to the calculator? I use Visio a lot and love the measuring option there.

I find myself using a spare camera to get distances on floor plans when planning camera layouts. Sometimes the spare camera gets overlooked and I'll forget to delete it. This then leads to confusion later on.

Thanks guys.

Hi David,

This camera is now in the calculator as you requested. I also emailed you with the specifics. If you need any further adds or need anything else please email me at Adam@IPVM.com

Hi there,

The camera is an infiniti PHX-39X-TI

It has a 1/2.8" Exmor progressive scan CMOS is 1920X1080.

Min illumination is 0.05LUX for color and 0.0008 LUX for BW. It has a ZLID laser as well.

It is auto focus and auto shutter speed between 1/50 to 1/10,000.

It's a PTZ and has a 8-315mm lens

Thanks

I have a few cameras in a project that are from a small manufacturer and are not in the calculator but are PTZ.

David, we are happy to add in any camera from even small manufacturers. Let us know here or email us at info@ipvm.com and we will get it added within 24 hours.

It would be really nice if we could make a generic camera be a PTZ as well.

I have a few cameras in a project that are from a small manufacturer and are not in the calculator but are PTZ. When showing the project to stakeholders it would be nice if they they had the circle.

Thanks for the speedy fix

David, these models have now been corrected, as shown in the example below:

Can we get the Axis Q874#-LE cameras changed from bullet to PTZ?

When I plan using the tool and they show as a bullet fixed cam it doesn't accurately show the coverage provided by the camera.

I know it isn't available yet, but can you add the Axis P3719-PLE.

It would also save time to have a 180 and 270 degree configuration for these types of cameras in addition to the 360.

I was pulling together cut sheets and going to the manufacturer's website to get them to make sure I had current docs and found a few cameras were EoL. The design was not finalized just yet thankfully, but I did have to go back and update a bunch of stuff. I realize nothing is going to be perfect, but I figure the more chances to catch something, the better. Thanks!

Thanks for the feedback, we will be adding a selectable option to show/hide end of life cameras.

Quick question(s), how did you find out later that the camera was EoL? How much later after the design was completed were the cameras EoL?

As a sales engineer at an integrator I would typically only know if I manually checked the manufacturer's website, or an updated pricelist (e.g. Axis and Hanwha update their pricelist for End of Life cameras).

With all the thousands of cameras now in the calculator, is there a plan either flag or offer a filter to filter out cameras not being currently sold? I have had it happen now a few times where I added a camera to a project only to find out later that it has be EOLed. Thanks!

Steve, thanks for your first comment. Welcome!

There is not a mobile-version of the Calculator (nor mobile-specific guide), it is something we are planning to build in the future.

The Calculator runs on mobile browsers, but some of the primary limitations are the "right-click" menus on cameras and floorplans are difficult to access, which means you cannot use the major funtions like "Duplicate Camera", or delete a floorplan once it is uploaded.

Adding, moving and adjusting camera operations work okay, but a typical Android or iOS on-screen-keyboard takes up significant screen space when trying to select a specific camera model:

Is there a specific iPad user guide for Calculator v3? Or more specifically what the limitations are when using V3 with an IPad?

Lynn,

Thanks for the question!

We are currently working on a user interface refresh for the Calculator, which is needed to handle a bunch of new features/capabilities going forward, including camera color selection, and large system design-focused solutions (e.g. better project organization).

We also spent a lot of time earlier this year getting our new in-house development up to speed. I can't set a date to it, but we just went over our UX consultant's recommendations for the camera color option last week, and can say it is a priority for myself and our dev group. 

Hi Sean - any update on the color option?  It's been about a year since the last post about it being on your to-do list.  Thanks!

Scott, we will look into this for you. I just sent you an email requesting some more details.

Export function beings to start, but never completes. I have attempted to export both snapshots and .pdfs. 

 

 

I have a project any one professional with new camera calculator v3

Thanks for the feedback, we do not have control of the StreetView imaging that is made available in the Google Maps API.

As a workaround, you can import custom scenes if you take a picture of the street/parking lot/exterior space that you want to add to your project:

Adding / Using Your Own Simulated View

Images of the site can be uploaded if you want a view of what the camera will be seeing when installed (using a picture taken at the install location). You can select the image and give it a name. The Uploaded Scene is per camera. You will also need to set the Angle of View of the picture. If taken with a cellphone, the average FoV is between 50-70 degrees, so move the slider below 90, but not more than halfway to 0.

Need more google street view to be added in GCC countries

The Calculator does not support multi-imager devices yet, it is on our roadmap, and something we have been researching how to implement accurately.

We label all repositional multi-imager cameras with a "Single Imager" note so that it is clear that each imager needs to be represented independently. Non-repositional multi-imagers that typically stitch their views are represented by 180 or 360-degree views.

This is not currently on our roadmap. We will look into it and see what that implementation will look like. I found some applications that supported exporting to Visio formats, and other open platform suggestions to export to WMF or EMF, which are vector graphic formats that Visio supports.

Working with a new layout and tried to select a PNM-7000VD . Idea being using a dual imager on a single drop to give better coverage and run less cable.  On the camera calculator though I am seeing PNM-7000VD (Single Imager) and I think this is incorrect?  or maybe I just misunderstand...

Below a previous writeup on IPVM called this a dual imager as I would expect  If this was actually giving the dual capability in the calculator maybe we could show both areas on the calculator from the single device?  Thanks

https://ipvm.com/reports/hanwha-dual-imager

Forgive me if this has already been asked. Any opportunity to export to vsdx for added external markings for gates, doors, roi, etc...

I typically will export to Word and remove the cam spec info. Then save as pdf for customer presentation

Fair enough and thanks for the response

 

Sorry, I missed that question originally, that option (and other "advanced export options") is on our roadmap, we have received that request before. Unfortunately, I can't estimate a specific timeline for that being added to our production system, but as we get more requests, that can bump features up in line, so thanks for your input.

Hi Sean

Thanks- that is what I missed. I did cut out what I did not need but it was an unwanted step.  I'll re-do one with blank scene to verify but feel that will solve part of it.

Also though after doing the export when I am prepping the package to market to the customer I have all the cam specs including the model etc showing across the top.  I want that info available for me but if I do not choose to share it can that be unchecked?

We have a "Blank Scene" option that allows for a blank white scene in "Simulated Views" selector:

Selecting that will leave the area above the Simulated Person/License Plate blank on exports:

The other option is to export your project as a PPT or DOC format, which allows you to edit the export and crop parts of the export out that you do not need.

I'm new here and have been trying to take in the vast amount of helpful content available. 

The Camera calculator is fairly intuitive and I was able to pick it up fast except I have not found an option to exclude the example images and Street View section from the right side of the view.  I have several residential jobs in the works and just don't need that portion to appear.  Also when doing a workup we want to add the specific cameras but I do not necessarily wish to tell a prospective client every single camera and detail for placement and then not get the job having armed them with everything they need to shop it themselves.  Is there something I am missing here?

Hello Yoeri,

I just emailed you regarding this issue. Please respond with the requested information and I will take a closer look.

Hi,

 

It seems I can't add floor plans anymore. I tried PNG and PDF but no result.

Any idea?

 

Thanks a lot

#19

The "Show camera blind spot" toggle simulates the area under a camera that is not within the camera's field of view, based on Camera Height, Width of FoV (e.g. 180/360 fisheye have no blind spot), and Tilt. The unshaded area is the blind spot, while the green/blue shaded area is where the camera can see. The "Distance to blind spot" output is where the camera FoV first intersects the ground:

Our full report/announcement with 2-minute demonstration video is posted here: Camera Height / Blind Spot Added to IPVM Camera Calculator

When checking off "Show camera blind spot" - what does the shaded and unshared area mean?  I "think" that the shared area means that the area has limited view?

There is not, I will add that to our feature requests list. Is it just a model number that you would want hidden?

A workaround would be to export in PPT or Word DOC format and paste in a blank square image over the Model field.

Thanks for the input and your first comment!

Is there anyway to suppress the model numbers of the cameras for customer presentation?

May I request the Sensera SiteWatch PRO2 to be added to the Calculator? Thank you!

When using the CSV export, the notes section is truncated. Would be nice to have a complete export of all notes. I can provide examples if needed.

It seems I found two bugs:

-with an export to pdf the first camera isn’t zoomed in, also nr six didn’t look great.

 

- when changing from landscape, to portrait and back again, the ppm doesn’t match the actual view

Ththhank you

I'm still learning this tool.

I intend to use this tool to provide a report to the customer. Having said that, more discussion in this tutorial on using custom views of customer site and the limitations would help in making the report more specific to the customers environment. Specifically, how you photograph the scene, what do you record, what scene parameters are best captured and how the scene shot interacts with the camera selection and parameter adjustments.

Just saying.

We added the option for a blank white scene in "Simulated Views" selector:

Selecting that will leave the area above the Simulated Person/License Plate blank on exports:

Manfred,

I added a feature request for a "blank" or plain white scene to be an option to choose from.

In the meantime, you can upload a plain white JPEG or BMP file (save a blank image in Windows Paint) to the camera Scenes window, however you will need to upload it for each camera individually.

how to use the calculator without getting any scenes? 

the scenes are not appropriate, yes for the simulated person but not the scenes please.

This has now been corrected. Thanks for bringing it to our attention, Jon.

 

Thanks for pointing that out Jon, we will update that so it is correct.

In the Calculator, Hikvision model DS-2CD4A26FWD-IZHS8/P has two lens options, 2.8-12mm and 8-32mm, which is correct, but the associated AOV for the corresponding lens is swapped. In the Calculator the 2.8-12mm is representing a 13.5-42.2 degree lens and the 8-32mm is representing a 32-92 degree lens.

This has been addressed, thanks again!

Richard,

 

The AVD4710 is already in the calculator:

Let me know if you need anything else added.

 

Can you add the GeoVision AVD4710? You already have the AVD8710 so it should be an easy one.

Thanks, keep up the good work :)

Thank you for pointing this out David, we are able to duplicate this issue and will update here when the fix is in place.

thanks

Hi,

 

when exporting to any format, part of the data (such as ppm and camera height) in the exported file is obstructed by the picture.  The reason seam to be that the thumbnail showing the type of camera, forces the text data to the third text line. In turn ending up behind the picture.  See comparison of a export with a generic camera and a specific one.

Data obscured by picture - Specific camData OK - Generic camera

Thanks for the feedback, I am able to duplicate this issue and will follow up directly. I tested out a few different 180 degree models and they do not cause the same problem.

Hi,

when adding a certain type of camera the Calculator map, it becomes darker and darker as i add more cameras of that type, until it is compleatly black.  I have only found this issue with the DS-2DP1636Z-D -  180° option.  Do you know what is the reason ?

 

 

 

The Blind Spot/Tilt feature is gone? Can you attach a screenshot?

We added in a button to hide the control sidebar, is it possible you just minimized it?

Additionally, any project work should autosave, so if you lost work, we probably need to set up a call to look at your system.