Verkada False Allegations Against Avigilon Exposed

By: John Honovich and Sean Patton, Published on May 08, 2019

Verkada has leveled false allegations against Avigilon, as part of their aggressive marketing tactics against the 'dinosaurs' in the 'ancient' video surveillance market.

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Despite being obviously false and despite IPVM bringing this to Verkada's attention, the company will not retract it.

[Update: After IPVM published this report, Verkada finally responded to IPVM with changes in their assumptions and claims. They are now deceptive rather than obviously factually wrong.]

Inside this note, we examine Verkada's false allegations and expose what Verkada is doing.

******* *** ******* ***** allegations ******* ********, ** part ** ***** ********** marketing ******* ******* *** '*********' ** *** '*******' ***** ************ ******.

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******* ***** ********* ***** and ******* **** ******** this ** *******'* *********, the ******* **** *** retract **.

[******: ***** **** ********* this ******, ******* ******* responded ** **** **** changes ** ***** *********** and ******. **** *** now ********* ****** **** obviously ********* *****.]

****** **** ****, ** examine *******'* ***** *********** and ****** **** ******* is *****.

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False ***********

** *******'** ******* ******* ****** Cloud ********* *** ********** Security, **** ******* * comparison ** ******** ***** they ***** ******** ** 55% **** ********* **** Verkada:

*** **** ******* ***** is *** ***** **** Avigilon *** ********* ** a ************ $*** *** camera (*.*., $**,*** / 100 *******). ***** ******* refused ** *******, *** most ****** ********** ** that ******* ******** **** Avigilon ******* $****** ********** **** $*** *** a ********* ******* (*.*., Verkada ***** *** ***** as "******* *** ******/****"). ** ******, **** is *****.

***** *** * ****** of ******:

  • *** ********* ***** **** at ***** $**,*** ** the ******* ******** ****.
  • ******* ******* **** ******** costs $**,***+ *** **** to ******** - * preposterous ******. ** ***** estimated $** *** ****, that ** ~*** ***** of *********** ******** (** 6 ***** ***** ****).
  • ******* ** ****** ******** costs ***** ******** ** NVRs ******* ********.
  • ******* ***** ****** ********* off ** **** ***** Avigilon's ******* *** *** costs *** ****** ** MSRP.
  • ** *** *, ******* raised *** ******, ***** Verkada's ********** ******** (** it *** ****** ****** that).

Perpetual ** ************ ****** *******

** *** ** *** these ******** ******* ******, Verkada ** **** ***** deceptive ***** ******** *** most ***** *** **** with ********* ********. ** particular, ******** ** * bad ****** *** ******* since **** ** *** charge *** ******* / maintenance ****.

******* ************ ***** *** analysis ** **** * years *****, ** *******,******* **** *, * years ** ****. ********* ** **** more ********* ******** *** the ******* ********* ****** even *****.

Missing ********

**** **** ********** *****, Verkada ** ******* **** core ******** ********** ******** including:

  • ** *****
  • ** *** ***** ****** support
  • ** ***
  • ** ********
  • ** ****** ******* ***********
  • ** ***** ******
  • ** ******* ***** ***********
  • ** *****-****** ******
  • ** ********* *********
  • ** ********** ******
  • ** ******* ****** *********
  • ** *****-**-**** ***********
  • ***.

Author ** ***** ************ *********

** **** *****, **** should *** ** ********** as ********* ** *******'* ************* ******* ** * 'growth ****** ** *****':

************* *** ******* ** the ****, *** '*******' has ******* ** ** with ********* *** ****** surveillance ****** ***************, ***** is **** *** ** doing.

No ******* ******** *********

***** ******* *** ***+ employees, **** ** **** have **** ****** ** video ************ ***** ** Verkada *** *** ******* employee ****** ** * months ** *** *-****-*** company.

****** ***** *** ********* benefits ** ****** *** approaches *** *** ******, for * ******* ** large ** ******* *** become, ****** ** *** with ******** ******** ********** is ** ********** *******.

Early ******** ********* ******** ***

** *** ***** ****, Verkada ** *** *** first ****-******* *** ******* to ** **** ******. Indeed, ********, ** ***** own *****, *** ********, e.g.****'* **** ******** ***** Tricks ******.

***, ** ********'* ******, they **** *******. *** Verkada ********* *** ** as ****, ****** ** may ** *** **** ride *** **** *** the ******** ** ******* takes ***** ** ** so.

Update: ******* ********

***** ** *******'* ******** in ****:

***** *** *** *** feedback ** *** **** post. ***** ** **** article, ** **** ******* the *********** *** ******* in *** **** **********. From *** **** ******** available ** **, ** stand ****** *** ********* that ******* ******** * superior *** ** ******* from ******** *** ******. However, ** *** **** some ***** ** *** analysis **** ** ****** to ******, *** ***** IPVM *** *** ********** for ******** ***** ***.

********** *** ******* *** document:

Some *******:

1. ******* ** ****** *** ********* **** ******** *********: Importantly, our previous analysis had assumed 5 separate locations, each with 20 cameras. That was not clear in the previous comparison and drives cost from NVR-based systems like Avigilon.

2. ******** ***** ******* * *******: We have included Avigilon software licenses in the analysis. Please see the datasheet available on Avigilon's website, "Avigilon Control Center licenses must be purchased separately." ****://********************-********************************.**.***.*******.***/******/*******/********-****-***-*********-**-****.***

3. ******* *** * ****** *** **** ******* ******** ************ ** ******* *&*: We agree that ongoing maintenance and operations costs vary between systems, but many of our customers have complained about the high cost of maintaining NVRs across multiple locations. For simplicity of the comparison, however, we have removed those costs from our analysis.

Update: ******* ************* ******** ** $**,***+ **** *** ****

******* ************* *** ******** products ** ***** ******* breakdown. **** *** *********** equipment, ******** ***** **** would ** ~**% **** than **** ******* ****, and ******* ~**% ***** than *******.

***** **** ******* ********* 3MP ********* ******* **** 30 **** ** *******, the *********** ******** ******** are:

  • **-**** ** ***** ********* with **** ** ******* which ******** ** *** licenses: $**,*** ****
  • ****** ** ** *** varifocal ** *******: $*** MSRP * ** = $5,940
  • ******* ** ** *** varifocal ** *******: $*** MSRP * * = $4,560

********* ** *******'* ****** take, **** ** * "Total ****" ** $**,*** per **** *** ******** NVR, *******, *** *********, compared ** $**,*** **** they ******* *** ******** and *** $**,*** **** claimed *** **********.

Comments (58)

Undisclosed End User #1

05/08/19 04:11pm

****** *** ****** ** feel **** ***. ** the ***** ****, **** age ***** ******** ******.

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Greg Hussey

05/08/19 04:33pm

**** ********* ** *** internet ****'* ********?

John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Greg Hussey | 05/08/19 05:39pm

****,

***** *** * ********* issues ****:

Issue ** ****, *** *******

**** '*****' ****** ** the ******** *** ****** of *******, *** ****. Should ********* ** *****? Is *** *** **** unethical **** ***** *****? etc.

** *******'* **** ****, they **** ******** ******* assertions. **'* *** **** they **** ******** ** expensive ** ***, **** claimed ** ***** *****.

Corporations *** ******

**** ** * ***********, not * ****** **********. If ******** **** ********* on ******* ** **** not ***** *** **** weight ** * ******* valued ** *****-******* ******* **** *********.

No **********

**** ** *** **** important *****. ******* ******* to ******* *** ******* it. **** ** ***** a **** ** *** their ************ ********.

**** ***** **** ******* it ** ****** ** was ** ********* (********** of ******* ** ***). They ***** *** **.

Michael Miller

05/08/19 05:21pm

*** *** **** **** public ** ** *** share ***** **** **** not ******* **** ****?

Undisclosed #2

05/08/19 05:34pm

* ***'* ****** *** if "*********" ** * typo, ** ** *** thinks *** ** ******.

*** ****** **********, *** should ******** *** **, either ***.

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Brian Rhodes

IPVMU Certified | In reply to Undisclosed #2 | 05/08/19 05:37pm

**** ***, '*************** #*'

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Morten Tor Nielsen

prescienta.com | 05/08/19 05:53pm

** ****** *** ***** prices *** ***** ****** to ***** ****? **'** talking ***** ******* *** cities ******** * **** million ** **** *******, so ** ***** ** wildly ************* ** **** didn't *** **** ****** from *** *** ***** with ***** ******** ****.

** * ********* ******, someone ********* **** *** cost ****** ** ******* with ********* *** (** me) ************ *****, ***** makes ** ****** - what's *** ****, ******, difference ** *****. ** we ****** **** ** end-user ********* *****'* **** about ***, ***** ***. is ******* **** ******* than ** ******** ************?

Undisclosed #2

In reply to Morten Tor Nielsen | 05/08/19 06:00pm

** ****** *** ***** prices *** ***** ****** to ***** ****?

***, **** ********** **** you ***** *****. ************ for ********* **** ********, where ***** ***** *** not ****** **** ** come **. ***** **** this *** ** **** to *** ****** ** the ***** ******, *********** a ******* ** ********* might ***** ***** ***** purchase ******** ** ********* those ********* ********** ****** the ***** ****** ** the *******.

* **** **** ** front ** ******** ****** on ***** ******** **** were **** ****** *********** and ******** ***** ******* offerings *** ******* **** times **** * *** count. *** ***** **** will ********* ** ***** own ********, *** **** is *** *** "*******" buyer.

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Morten Tor Nielsen

prescienta.com | In reply to Undisclosed #2 | 05/09/19 04:59am

**** ****** **** ******** has * ******* ****.

*'* ***. * ***'* have **** ** ****** for ***** "***** *** price" *****. ** *** price ** *** **********, I **** **** **. I ***'* **** *** the "**** * *** call ***" ****, ** any ** **** ********.

**** *** **** **** dragged **** *** ** those ****-****** ****** **** sell ***** ******* ***** you **** ** *** out * ***** *** with ** ****** ***** point? * **** *****. Take ** ** ***-**** where *****'* * *** sign **** **** "******** $19".

*'* ********* **** ** many *** ****** ************ systems, ******* *********, ** if **** **** ******** for * *** **** of **********.

** **** **** * "system" **** **** *** different *************? ******* *****'* a ***** *** **** in ****. *** ** a ********* ******, *** get **** ****** (*/* installation), *** **** *** some *******.

Undisclosed #2

In reply to Morten Tor Nielsen | 05/09/19 10:30am

**** ****** **** ******** has * ******* ****.

*'* ***. * ***'* have **** ** ****** for ***** "***** *** price" *****.

******* ** *** *** define "*******". **** ******* your ******** ********, *** a ****** ** ***** competitors, ** * ****** wide ****** ************.

Undisclosed Manufacturer #12

In reply to Morten Tor Nielsen | 05/13/19 01:34pm

****** ***** **** * great ****. ** ***** to * **** ********** as ******** ** *** using **** *** *** parties. **** ** ******* readily ********* *** *** manufacturers.

**** ***** ****. **** manufacturers ** *** **** their ******* ********** ******* levels ********* ** *** public.

**** ***** ***** ********* to ************ *** ** direct ******* ** ******* levels,

************ **** ******* ***** own ****** ** ******* levels ***** ** *** customer. (********* *** ** more ******** **** * distributor *** *** **** discount **** ****)

*** ********** **** **** their ****** *** *****. Also ******* ********* ** the ********.

**** ****** *** ***** piece *** ** *** equation ** **** ******* in ***** ********. *** in *** *** **** is **** ** *** cost *** ********* *** end **** *** ** consider.

** *** ************* **** posted **** ***** ***** was *** ** *** the **** *** ********, then **** ***** **** no ****** ********* *** dealers **** **** **** 1 **** ** *******, no ****** ********* *** dealers **** *** *** their ******* *** ********* through *** *********** ***.

John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Undisclosed Manufacturer #12 | 05/13/19 01:41pm

**** ****** *** ***** piece *** ** *** equation ** **** ******* in ***** ********. *** in *** *** **** is **** ** *** cost *** ********* *** end **** *** ** consider.

******* *** ************ *** maintenance ******* ** ***** original **** *** ******* it ** *** ****** one.

***** ******** *********** ******* (mentioned ** *** ****) was ****** *** *** install ********** *** **** reasonable.

*** *** **** ***** have ** ******** *** dramatic ********* ******** *** in ************. **** **** Verkada's *** ********* / public ******, ***** **** target / ******* ***** to ** ****** *****, where **** *** ******* far **** ********* *** offer ***** *****.

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Rick Caruthers

Galaxy Control Systems | 05/08/19 08:32pm

******* **** ************* *** not **** **** ** find....If **** ******* *** a *** ******** *** can ****** ****:

*****://***.***********.***.***/********/****.**

**** **** **** *** their *** **** ***** in **** ***** *** mark ** ** **** than **% **** ****** to ***..

Undisclosed Integrator #3

05/08/19 08:40pm

*** **** ************ *** claim, *** **** ****** for ******** ** **** and ******* *** *******.

Undisclosed #4

In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #3 | 05/08/19 08:43pm

****'* **** **** **********...

John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Undisclosed #4 | 05/08/19 08:57pm

***'** ******* ** *******, #4.... :)

* ** ***** **'* worth ********** *** ***** 'any ***** ** **** press' *****.

** ** **********, **** tends ** ** *** case ****:

(*) * ******* *** limited ********* ** ***** out ** *********.

(*) *** ******** ***** is ******** ****** ********** to **** ******

** ***** *******, (*) is *** *** **** for *******. **** ******* have **+ *********** ** their *** ** ******** soon ****** **** ****** $** *******. **** *** ***** to ** **** ** reach ********* *** ******** they ****, ******* *** 3rd ***** *****.

*** ***** ****** ** who **** **** **** criticism **********? * ** think ***** *** **** people *** ******** *** industry ** ** *******, stone ***, ****** **** dinosaurs, ***. **** **** resonate. ** *** ***** hand, * ***** ***** are * *** **** that *** ***** ** be ********, **************.

***, ***** **** ** one ** ***** ***********. Pretty **** ***** ******* in *** ******** ***** a ******** ********** ** that, ** ***, ***** sales. ******* ***** ***** this *****.

** **********, ******, **** interacting **** **** **********, as ******** ** *********, is **** **** **** not ******* ******* ***** aspects.

Chris Chambers

In reply to John Honovich | 05/13/19 01:31pm

** *** ********* ***** to ****** ******* *** detailed ********** ****, ** will ********** *** ** a **** ** *** publicity ** **** *********.

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Abdelhamid Metwally

IPVMU Certified | 05/08/19 04:26pm

* ** ****** **** what * *** ** that **** ******** ********* sometimes ***** ** *** purchasing ******** ****** **** not ****** **** ******* to ***** *******.

Undisclosed Integrator #5

05/08/19 10:26pm

*** ****** *****? * admire **** ******** ** for ***** ******, *** is **** ****** * headline **** ** *****? Let’s **** ***** *******.

Undisclosed Distributor #6

05/08/19 07:28pm

***.. **** **** ******* actually ****** *** **** talent? *********...

**: ***** *** *** recent ***** ***** ******* Sales ***** **** ******* strikes ** **** ******** they ****** ** ** Kevin ****'* ********* ************* ****

******** ***** ** ** about *:** ***

John Honovich

IPVM | 05/09/19 12:36am

******: ******* *** *** responded. ***** ** *******'* response ** ****:

***** *** *** *** feedback ** *** **** post. ***** ** **** article, ** **** ******* the *********** *** ******* in *** **** **********. From *** **** ******** available ** **, ** stand ****** *** ********* that ******* ******** * superior *** ** ******* from ******** *** ******. However, ** *** **** some ***** ** *** analysis **** ** ****** to ******, *** ***** IPVM *** *** ********** for ******** ***** ***.

********** *** ******* *** document:

Some *******:

1. ******* ** ****** *** ********* **** ******** *********:Importantly, our previous analysis had assumed 5 separate locations, each with 20 cameras. That was not clear in the previous comparison and drives cost from NVR-based systems like Avigilon.

2. ******** ***** ******* * *******:** **** ******** ******** software ******** ** *** analysis. ********* *** ********* ********* on ********'* *******, "******** ******* ****** licenses **** ** ********* separately."

3. ******* *** * ****** *** **** ******* ******** ************ ** ******* *&*:** ***** **** ******* maintenance *** ********** ***** vary ******* *******, *** many ** *** ********* have ********** ***** *** high **** ** *********** NVRs ****** ******** *********. For ********** ** *** comparison, *******, ** **** removed ***** ***** **** our ********.

**** **** ** ********** with ******** ** *** morning ** ****.

Michael Miller

In reply to John Honovich | 05/09/19 01:09am

Michael Miller

In reply to Michael Miller | 05/09/19 02:23am

* **** ***** *** Avigilon **** **** ******* with *** ******* ****** pricing *****'* **** *** so ****. ******** **** have **** ***** ******* with *** ******* ******* cloud ********** ** *******. I ***** ***** ******** could *** **** ** all ****** ****** **** add ***** ********** *** they ***** **** * hit ** ***** *****.

James Vian

In reply to Michael Miller | 05/13/19 02:38am

****’* ** ******* ** Avigilon **** **** ;)

Michael Miller

In reply to James Vian | 05/13/19 11:50am

****** **** **** *** work **** *** ** cameras :(

********* **** ***** **** Verkada ***** ***** ** value **** *** ******** puts **** ****** ** the ** ****** ****. Avigilon's ** ******* *** far ******** ** *******'* so **** ***** *** interesting ****.

John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Michael Miller | 05/13/19 11:55am

*******, *** ** *** want **** ** **** with ** *******? ***** Blue *** ******* *****-**, it *** ******* ** regular *******, ********* *** party **** **** *****, obviating *** **** ** have ******* ****** **** camera.

*****'* *** **** ** a ******* **** ****** remote ***** ****** **** not ****** * ******** appliance **-**** (****** **** Verkada, ***** ****** ** now * ******** ********* on-site).

Michael Miller

In reply to John Honovich | 05/13/19 04:17pm

*** ******'* * **** the ** ******* ** be **** ** ** managed **** ****? **** already **** **** *** Verkada ****** ***** ** a ****** *** ****. I ****'* *** *** rid ** *** ***** which ***** *** ***** cameras *** ******** ******* with ******* ******* *** the ***** ***** ** very ******. **** ****** be *** **** **** brings ********** ******** *** adds *****/****** ****** ** ACC ***. ** *******, ES *********, *** *******, BLUE ********* *** ***.

John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Michael Miller | 05/13/19 05:12pm

*** ******'* * **** the ** ******* ** be **** ** ** managed **** ****?

**** ** *** ********* benefit? **** *** ***** do *** *** ********** more **** ** + Blue ** ******* ******* + ****? * ** genuinely ******.

**** ******* **** **** and ******* ****** ***** is * ****** *** this

* ***'* ***** ******* has ****** ***** ** some ******* ************ ****** for **-***** *******. **** have ****** ***** ** a ****** *** * telesales **** ** **** direct **** * ******* Valley ********. *** * think **** ** * big **** *** **** indirectly **** ** ** using **-***** *******.

Michael Miller

In reply to John Honovich | 05/14/19 05:48pm

**** ** *** ********* benefit? **** *** ***** do *** *** ********** more **** ** + Blue ** ******* ******* + ****? * ** genuinely ******.

***********.

**** *** ***, *** are ****** ****** *** more **** *** **** unless *** *** ******* 8 ** ** *******. I **** **** * or * ******* *** I **** ** *** a *** *** * or * **** * cameras *** *** * want ** *** *** so * **** ** get ******* ***. ***** ES ******* ******* * box **** ****** ***/****** option *** *** **** maximum ***********. * **** customers **** ******* **** sites *** **** ***** have * ** * cameras *** * ****** of ***** **** *-** cameras *** *** **** end *** **+. *** 1-2 ****** ***** *** ES *******, *** *-** get *****, *** **** office **** *** **** the ***** **** *** brought ******** **** *** cloud.

***** * ** *** saying ****** *** *** or ****** ******* ******** I ** ****** *** cloud. ** *** **** a ***** ******? *** You **** ***** ****** and *******? *** *** have ***+ ********* **** a ****** ** ******* each **** *** **** local *** ***** ******? YES *** **** * large ****-**** ********** *** you **** ** ******* with ***** ******** *** share ******? *** ****** people **** ***** ****** but ******* ****** ***** a ***** ***** ****? YES ... * **** it ***.

John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to John Honovich | 05/09/19 10:23am

******* ******; ******* ********* their *********** *** ********** selected:

*** **** ********, ** were ***** *** **** estimate ** ********, ******, and ******* *****.

*** ********, ** **** comparing *******:
  • * ********* ** ***** with **
  • ******** ** *** **** 16TB *******
  • *** ******** ******** ******* to ***** ****** ******* per ****
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Sean Patton

IPVM | In reply to John Honovich | 05/09/19 03:41pm

******* ************* *** ******** products ** *** ******* Breakdown.

**** *** *********** *********, Avigilon ***** **** ***** be ~**% **** **** what ******* ****, *** overall ~**% ***** ***** Cost **** *******.

***** **** ******* ********* 3MP ********* ******* **** 30 **** ** *******, the *********** ******** ***:

  • **-**** ** ***** ********* with **** ** ******* which ******** ** *** licenses: $**,*** ****
  • ****** ** ** *** varifocal ** *******: $*** MSRP * ** = $5,940
  • ******* ** ** *** varifocal ** *******: $*** MSRP * * = $4,560

******* ** *******'* ******* table, **** ****** * "Total ****" ** $**,*** MSRP *** **** *** an ***, *******, *** Licensing, ******** ** $**,*** that **** ******* *** Avigilon *** *** $**,*** they ******* *** **********.

Undisclosed Integrator #7

05/09/19 01:37am

******* **** ** **** expensive *** * ***** site *******, **** *** the ********* **** **** with **. ** *** know *** ***** ** is ** ****** * hours ** ***** *** a ***** ** ***** event ** * ***** server? ******* ****** ** do **** **** ********** buffering ***** *******??

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Kyle Folger

IPVMU Certified | In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #7 | 05/09/19 02:25am

* ***** ******** ******** to **** ** ****. The ********* ** ***** based ********* *** ********* on ******** *** **** internet ***** ** *********. Upload ***** ** *** primary ***** **** ******* video ** *** ***** server. *******, **** **'* in *** *****, ******** speed ** ********* **** and *** ***** *** generally ****** ** ******* far ******** ** *** ones *** *** ****** locally **** **** ****** pipes **** ****** ** well.

** **** ***** **** cloud ** **** *** internet **** ****, **** is ***** ****. * do **** *** ****** approach ** ****** * duplicate ** **** ********* in *** *****. *******, upload ***** *** **** is ********* *** ***** especially **** **** ****** counts.

** *** *** ********* local ****** ** *** cloud, ***** ****** ****. If *** *** ****** viewing, ***** **** ** generally ******. * **** 5Mb ****** *** * can ***** ****** **** on * ******** **** unit **** * *** on ** ******** ******. I ****** ** ******** system *** ***'* **** on ****** **** *******, but ***** *** ******* advantages ** *** *****. It ****** **** ******* on **** **** ** the ******* *** *** located *** *** **** you **** ** *** for *********.

* *****'* ****** *******, but * **** **** a *** ** ***** marketing. ***** * ***** closed ****** ***** **** just **** * **** product, ***** ** **** for * ********, *** I ******'* **** ** be **** ** * limited ****** ** *******. I ***'* *** *** multi-sensor ******* ** ***** lineup. **** ******** *** have * *** ** options *** *******, *** can **** *** ***** manufacturers **** ******.

Undisclosed Manufacturer #8

05/09/19 12:16pm

*’* ******* *** *** benefit **** *** ******** 3 ***** ** ******* and ***’* ****** ** the *** ****. ******** (or ****** *** ***** system) ***** ****** *** to ******, ******, ****. There’s * ***** ** that.

**** **** * ** year ******** ** ** you **** ****** *** subscription ***** * *****?

***** * ****** ******** to ******* ********* ********** subscription?

Undisclosed #4

05/09/19 04:16pm

"**** *** **** ******** available ** **, ** stand ****** *** ********* that ******* ******** * superior *** ** ******* from ******** *** ******."

**** **** *** " - **** * *****" at *** *** ** that ********.

******* **** ********* ***** never **** *** **** assertion **** * **** or * *****, ******* the *** **** *** comparing ***** ***** **** hard(er) **** *** ***** year ***** *.

** ********* ******* ***** surveillance ******* ***** * years?

Undisclosed Manufacturer #9

05/09/19 08:15pm

*&* ****** ** **** attended * ******* *&* webinar ********. ***** **** a *** ** ********* about ***** ******* *** got **** "******" ******* that ** **** ********* their ***** **** ***** next-to-nothing ***** ****** ** imaging **********. **** ** pressed **** ***** *** Verkada's ****** ************* ****** were ** ************* ****** of...specifications, ** *** **** response, "** ******* *** customers *** ****** ***** on *** *********, ******** and **** ** *** and **********, *** ****** stats."

*** ****'* *** **** and ****, **** **** pretending ****'** * ****** company *****, *** * cloud ****-*** ******.

****, ** ****** ***** that ******* ********** **** fear ******* ** ***** webinar **** ************ ******** other ******** ************* ** being ********** ** *******. He **** **** *** attended **** ******** ** this ****-****** ********.

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Kyle Folger

IPVMU Certified | In reply to Undisclosed Manufacturer #9 | 05/09/19 09:14pm

** **** *** ****** based ** *** ********, then *** ******** ****** be **** ****** *** built ** **** **** third ***** ******* **** camera ************* **** ** care ***** ****** *****. I'm *** *** ***** software, *** *** ******** is **** ** *********. Verkada *** *** ** act **** **** *** an *** ** *** system ****/****** **** ********, but **** *** *** Avigilon.

John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Undisclosed Manufacturer #9 | 05/09/19 11:31pm

** ****** ***** **** Verkada ********** **** **** tactics ** ***** ******* that ************ ******** ***** security ************* ** ***** vulnerable ** *******

**** *** **** ****** to**** *** **** ***** fired:

"**** ** * ******* using ***** ********* **** and ******* * ****** us **** **** ****** system **** *** * models *** ******* ** $199 *** **** *** camera *******"

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Ryan Karpilo

05/09/19 10:11pm

******* ***? ********** ****** in ****?

******** | ******** ******** Inc, (* ******* *** Net *******) ********** ****** in ****? ***** * North ******* ******* / United ****** *** ******.

***’* *** *** * solution ******* **** *** it ***** *** **** the ***** ** **** it. ***** ******* ***, working ******* ****.

***’* *** * ****** solution *** **** ******** vertical *** *** **** study ** **** ** up.

John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Ryan Karpilo | 05/09/19 11:26pm

***** * ***** ******* company / ****** ****** and ******.

******* ** ***** * North ******** *******. **** ODM / ******** ************ but **** *******, ******* and **** :) ** North *******.

Undisclosed Integrator #11

In reply to John Honovich | 05/13/19 07:53am

** **** ** ********** why **** ** **** a **** ***** **** the ******** ** ** bad, ** **** ** fear *** **** ** smarmy ******* **** **** no ********* ** *** industry. * ******* **** is ******* ***** - yes?

John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #11 | 05/13/19 11:32am

* ** *** ************ proud **** **** *** American *** **** **** appear ** ** **** Silicon ****** ** ************ devolving ****.

* ** ***** ***** advocacy *** ***** ****** access ** * **** thing *** *** ********. While **** ******* *** been ****** *** **** years, **** ** *** largest ********** ****** ** not ******* ** (*.*., Milestone), **** ** **** complicated / ****** ** add (*.*., *******) ** works ****** ******* ***** port ********** (*.*., *********). Either ***** '*********' **** resolve **** ** ******* will ** **** ** continue ** *** **** as * *** ******* point.

Undisclosed Integrator #5

In reply to Ryan Karpilo | 05/10/19 12:09pm

** *** ***** ********* doesn't **** *** ******* investors? ********'* ****** ***** be ** *** **, but * ****** *** that ***** ** ****** of ******* ***** *** influence. ** **** ***** as * ***** ******** company ** *****'* *****.

John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #5 | 05/10/19 01:44pm

* ****** ***

****, ** *** ****** me... ** *** **** any ***** ************ ** Motorola?

*** ***'* ** ***** about '*********', **** *** invest ** ******** ****** companies ********* *** *** issue ** *******, *.*.,********* ******* ********** ****** And *******

Undisclosed Integrator #5

In reply to John Honovich | 05/10/19 12:13pm

****** * ** *****, Silver **** *** * pair ** ***** ***** at ******** *********. ****** Lake *** **** * fortune ** ******* ***** and *** **** ************* with **** ******* ********** powerhouses. *** ** ******* Blackrock *** **'* ********.

John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #5 | 05/10/19 03:07pm

****?****** **** *** $**+ billion ** *********** ****** 50+ *********. **** ****** ** lots ** ******, **** not *******. *** ********* has ******** *** **** does *** **** **** any *******.

*********, ** *** *** so ******* ***** ***** things, ** *** *** Hikvision ** ***?

Undisclosed #10

In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #5 | 05/12/19 10:32pm

*********'* ********* ***** ** the *** ********* ****** buildings.....for ***** **** **** how ******** ** ** give ** * ****** up. (*'* ** *******).

John Honovich

IPVM | 05/10/19 06:53pm

***, * *** **** looking ******* ** *** Avigilon **** ******** ******** *** ********** with ***** ********* ******:

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Morten Tor Nielsen

prescienta.com | In reply to John Honovich | 05/11/19 05:47am

****** *** **** ****.

John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Morten Tor Nielsen | 05/11/19 11:17am

***, ***, ******** *** successful. *** *** ******** was *** **** *** the ******* *** ** their ********* ********* ** their ******* ******* ******* / ********? ** ******** has *** **** ** much ********* ********* ***** on ***** **** ** in *** **** ***** they *** *****? * don't ****.

** ****** **, ******* at **** ******* *** Avigilon, *** **** ********* in **** ******* ******** and ***** / ********* is **** *** ******* one ******* *** * hard-charging ***** **** ** the **** ******* **** creates ********* *********, **** that ****** *** ******* the *****.

****, ***** ****** ******** had **** ****** ***** times ** **** / 2016, *.*.,******** *** ** ***, Stock **** **% *****,'****', '******' ******** *** Gets * *** ***,*** ********'* ** ** Marketing ** ***,******** *** ******* ******. **** ***** ***** catches ** **** ***. But, ** **** *****, from * ********* ***********, they *** **** **** have **** *** *** ahead.

Undisclosed #10

05/12/19 10:38pm

**** ******* ** ** this ******** ******** *****'* Faire?

******** ***, *** ***** puny ********* ****** ** blocks ****.

**** * ***** **** a *** **** ******* cannot **** ******* *** local *******.

*****://***.***********.***/********/*******/****-****-*-*****-*****-**-***-*****-*****-**-********.***

*** *** **** ** losing **** *** ****** geek ******, ******** *** businesses.

************://***.**********.***/?? *** ** *****, nerds *** ******** ******** of * **** ******* silicon ******.

******* ****** ** ******.

Damith Jayasinghe

05/12/19 11:22pm

**** ***** ***** ** Avigilon *******'* *** *** annual.

Jason Brown

05/13/19 02:15pm

*** ** ** *** pointing *** **** **** completely ********* ** ******* the $***-***/** ********* *** connection ******** *** **** site? $*-**/** * * years **** $**-*** ** the *** ** **** Verkada ****** **** ** not ******** *** ** Avigilon ** ***** ******. Most ************ ******* *** monitored ** **** *** even ** **** *** monitored ******** **** *** not ** ********* ********* as * *****-***** ******.

John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Jason Brown | 05/13/19 09:17am

*****, ******* ******* ******* inside ***** *** ******* so * *********** / higher ********* *** ********** is *** ******.

Jason Brown

In reply to John Honovich | 05/13/19 09:24am

****, ***** ** * spread *********. **** **** to ******

Michael Miller

In reply to John Honovich | 05/13/19 11:06am

*** *** *** ********** is ******** *** *** system ** ***** ********.

Undisclosed Integrator #13

05/13/19 05:33pm

***** ******** ** ******* the *****.

* ******* ***** ******* from *** ** *** ACS *********.

**** *** * **** to ** **** **** a ***** ** ********. He *** ***** ** some ******* **** **** installed ** **** ** renovations/construction ****. ** ****** to *** ******* **** and ***** *** ****'* want ** **** ***** down *** **** **** so..

** *** ***** * reseller **** *** * managed ******** ** ******* that *** ******* *** Verkada **** ***** ****** cost. *** **** ** represented ** ***** *** site. *

** ** *** *** buying *** ******* *** was ** **** **** the **** **** ******** licenses. ** **** ** the ****** **** ** days ** ******* - cloud ****** *** *** in * **** ********. So **** ** **** he ** $*,*** *** an ******** ****** *** he ** **** *** five *****.

** *** ** **** existing **** ***** ** various ********* - ** was ***** ***** ** support ***** *******.

** **** *** * pesky ******** *********** *******...***.

* *****...

* **** **** ** the *** **** **** - ** *** **** he ****, ******* ***** record...

* **** **** ** Verkada **** *** ** business.. - *** * big *******...

* ********* *** ******** sucked - *** **** I *** * **** of ** - ** doesn't...

* **** **** **** about *******... **** ** wasn't **** ***...

* **** **** ***** smearing *** ******* ****** - ** **** ** wasn't **** *** *** only *** **************...

**** ** *** ****** everyone...

******: **** ******* *** been ***** ** *** own **********:******* - **** ** The ****** ********...

Undisclosed Integrator #14

In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #13 | 05/14/19 11:18pm

**** *** ** ******* for **** ****** *******?

**** (****) **** ** simple ****** ** *** don’t **** ** *** deployment?

*** ****** ***** *****'* spoil *** *****, *** One ********** ****.

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