The Real Turing President is Not Ron Rothman

By John Honovich, Published Nov 05, 2021, 10:06am EDT (Info+)

In August, Turing made a splash announcing retired Honeywell Security President as the company's President. However, new legal filings contradict that showing the actual Turing President.

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Inside this note, we review the legal filings and how Turing has worked to obscure its actual President and executives.

Actual *********

** ********* **** ***** ******, * ****** *********** ********* ****** ********* *********, ****** ***** **** ***** as *********, ** *** ********** ***** shows:

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**** ********** **** ******'* *********. ******* reaching *** ** ****** *** ******* repeatedly **** ****** ** *********, ******* responded.

***** **** **** ** ****** ******** profile, ******, ***** ** ***** *** position ** "********* [***]" *** *** President:

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Officers ** ********** ******* ************

********,******'* ********** ******* ************, ***** **** **** *****, **** not **** ******* ** *** *** lists ***** ** ********* *** ******* individual *** ** ***, ********* *****:

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***********,*** ***** ******* ** *** ****** LinkedIn ****, ** ****** * "******** ********":

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*** ****** ******* ****** ******* **** we ***** *** *** ***** ******* that ***.

******* **** ****, *** **** ****** attending********(*** ******* ********** ***** *** ***** regularly ******, ********* ********* ****** ** Jinping). ** ********* **** ** * Turing ********. ******* ********** *** ******* Tsinghua **** *** ******** *******.

Turing **** **** ** *****, ** ***

******'* ******* *** *** * "**** Page"******* *** ********** *** **** ** mention ** *** *** ********** ***** and ***:

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PRC ***** **********

***** ********** ******* ** ********** ***** ** *** *******. **** the ******* **** ******* ************, **** profile ***** *** *** ***** ** the **-******** ** *** *******. ** also ******** ** *** ********' ********* PRC ***** **********:

“*** *** ********* *** *** ***** in *** **** ****** ********,” ****** Xing. *** **** ******* ** ****** Wanda, ***** ** ********** ** *** of *** *****’* ******* ********** ******** developers *** *************. ****** ***** *** been ******** ** *** ** *** firm’s *** ******** *****....

****, *** *** ** ****** ** driving *** ****’* ******** ** *****, found **** *********** ** *** ******* were *** **** ***** ** **** for *** **********’* ***********, ********* ******** product ******** *** ****** ******** ** existing ********. ** *** ***** ****, customers **** *** ** ******** * more ******** *** ************ ******** *** the ***.

*** **** ******* ***** *** ** expecting * **** ******** *** ************ solution ** ** **** ******* ****** ******'* ****** ***** ****** in ****'* *** ******.

Rothman *******

***** ** ** *** ***** **** position ******* ******** ***, **** **** the ******* ******* ** ******* *** funding ******* ** **** *** ******** are *** **********, ******* ** * useful ********** ** ********* *** *********, and **** ************ ********* *******, ** switch ** ******.

Update ****** ******

******: ** ** ********* ** ****** **** **** **** ******, ****** **** **** *** ******* is ********* *** ******* ** ******** nor *********** ***** *** ******* ******** we ******** **. ****** **** *** ISC **** **** ******:

****** ********** ****'* ****** *********, *********** about ************, ****** **** *** ******* is ***** **** ********* *** **** they *** *** ********** ** *** PRC **********. ****** **** ** *** not ******* ** ****'* ******** ******* for ******** ******* **** **** ********* that **** ***** ***** ****.

*** ********* ** ***** ** ******'* own *********, ************ ******* ******** ************,*** ******* *********'* ***** ******, ****** ***'* *** ******** *******. ** **** **** ***** *** documentation ************* ***** ********, **** *** contact ** **** ******** ** **** effect. **** **** ***** *** ** do **.

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11/05/21 02:28pm

*** *** ********* ********* ** *********, with * ***** *** ****. * will ** ********* ** **** ****** to *** **** ******** ** *** US.

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IPVM | In reply to Undisclosed #1 | 11/05/21 02:32pm

* ***** ** ******* ** **** one ****** ** "********". **** *** largely *** **** ****** ******* *** same ******** ** ******** ** *** same ****** *** **** *** *** directly ***** ** *** *** **********. To **** ***, **** ****** ** well ** *** ***** **** **** historically ****** *********.

** *** **** ** ***, *** Turing ***** * $** ******* ****** business? ****?

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In reply to John Honovich | 11/05/21 02:50pm

* ***** **********, **** ***** * part ** **** **** ** ********** on *****. **** *** *********, ** least *** *** **** *** ***** OEM ******* *** *** ****** *** same ***** ** ******** ********* ** actions **** *** **********.

* **** ***** **** **** * value *** *** ***** ***** ********* component. *** **** * *** **** it ** *********** *** **** *** the *** ******.

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IPVM | In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #2 | 11/05/21 02:54pm

* **** ***** **** **** * value *** *** ***** ***** ********* component. *** **** * *** **** it ** *********** *** **** *** the *** ******.

*** *** *** **** *******:****** ****** ***** ******

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Undisclosed Integrator #2

In reply to John Honovich | 11/05/21 03:37pm

***, ** **** **** ********* **** are ********* ****** ******* ** *** fly ** **** ** *** **** in *** ****** ** ******* ******* from **** * ***.

***** ** ********* ******** *** ** their ****, * ******'* **** ** VSaaS ** **** ** * ***** management ****** **** ** ** ******** component. ***** ****'** ****** **** ******* video *****, * ******'* **** ** that ** ** ******* ******** *** recorded *****.

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IPVM | In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #2 | 11/05/21 03:39pm

** **** ** *** **** ** the ****** ** ******* ******* **** what * ***.

**** *.* **** ***? *******, *** there's * *** ** ****** ******* from **. ** *** *** **** major ************, **** **** ** *** us **** *** ** ***** ****** to ** *** ****.

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Undisclosed Integrator #2

In reply to John Honovich | 11/05/21 05:41pm

* ***** * *** * **** of *** ****. ** ****** ****** than **** **** ****** *** *** still ******* ***** * ***. * think **** ******** ****** ** *** a ****** *** ***** *** **** seem ** **** * *** ** changes ****** ***** *****.

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IPVM | In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #2 | 11/05/21 06:02pm

* ***** * *** * **** of *** ****. ** ****** ****** than **** **** ****** ***

** *** * *****-**** **** ** the **-**-**** ********** ******* ******* ** of **** ****.

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Undisclosed Manufacturer #3

In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #2 | 11/05/21 03:34pm

****** *** ******* ****** ***** ******** already?

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John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Undisclosed Manufacturer #3 | 11/05/21 03:37pm

#*, * ***** ** ***** *** opposite. ** ** ********* ******** ***** ***** ****** ** ******* and *** ******, ****** ** ****** **** ******* and ******.

** ***** ** ****** ******* ** someone ********** **** ****** *** ******* relabelling **** ******* *** ******...

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Undisclosed Integrator #2

In reply to John Honovich | 11/05/21 03:39pm

****'* *******. ** ***** **** * talked ** **** **** ****** ******** the ******* ********** ** ********* *** Unview/Sunell.

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IPVM | In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #2 | 11/05/21 03:44pm

* ******* **** *** ** *** and ** ***** ****** ********* *********. They *** ********* *** **** ***** it, ********* ** ****** ********** ** their ***.

**** ** *** ******* ******* ** the *********** ** ***********. ***** **** tell ***, ***** **** ***'*. **** make * ******** **** *** ** a **** ********* ** ***** ********.

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Undisclosed Manufacturer #4

11/05/21 03:39pm

** ***** ***** ** ** **** are ****** ** **** ******* *********\**********. No *** ****** ***** **** ******* until **** ******* * *****-***** ***** showing ***** **** **** *** *** it ** *******. ** ***** *** indication ** ***** ***** **** ******* are?

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Undisclosed #1

In reply to Undisclosed Manufacturer #4 | 11/06/21 02:08am

****** ******* **** *** **** ** be ********** **** *****. ****'** **** a ***** ** ****** ***** *** are ********* ***** ***** *******, ***** executives, *** ***** ********. *** ***** anyone ******* ***** **** ******** ** anything *****?

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Mark Palka

IPVMU Certified | 11/05/21 03:44pm

***** **** ****** ** * *** fat ****

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Undisclosed Integrator #5

11/05/21 03:58pm

* *** **** ******** ***** **** yesterday....the *** ***** ********* *** ** into *** ********* ** *** ************, it's *** *** ******* *******. * don't **** *** ********* *** ***** get ****** *** ******* *****'*...*** *** expect ** ** ******* ********** *****'* know?

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IPVM | In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #5 | 11/05/21 04:02pm

* ***'* **** *** ********* *** Dahua *** ****** *** ******* *****'*...*** you ****** ** ** ******* ********** doesn't ****?

******* ** *** **** **** ***** in *** **. ***, *** **** them **** *** **** **** *** mean *** ******* ****** *** "**********" does.

****, *** **** *** *** ** Spring ****, ****** * ***** ***, when ******* *** **** **** **** known ** *** **. ******* ****** say ******* ** ******* * *** profile ** *** ** ** **** under *** ***** ** "**********".

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Undisclosed Integrator #5

In reply to John Honovich | 11/05/21 04:20pm

******* ** ***** **** **** *** difficult ** **** ***** *** **** in **** * *** **** ** was *** ************? "*** ************ *** security ******** ******** ** ************ **, or **** ********** ******** ** ************ by, * ******* *****, ****** ** in ****, ** *** ********** ** China"

*** ****** **** ***** *** *** to ** **** **** ** *** to **** ****** *****, ** ****** a **** ** * ***.

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Undisclosed Manufacturer #4

In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #5 | 11/05/21 07:24pm

** *** ********** ** ************ *** security ******* ** **** *** ***** and ***** ***** ********* ** ******** including *******, ***, ***, ***** ***** cause ***** ** *** *******.

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Undisclosed Manufacturer #6

11/05/21 04:08pm

** *** ** ***** ****** ********** come ******* *** * *** ** our ***** * ***** **** *** thumbs ****. **** ** *** *******. They **** **** **** *** ** worth **.

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Undisclosed Integrator #7

In reply to Undisclosed Manufacturer #6 | 11/05/21 05:58pm

**** ***** *****

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Brian Karas

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In reply to Undisclosed Manufacturer #6 | 11/05/21 07:26pm

**** ** ** ******** ** ****. Can't ******* **** ****** *** ******* up ** **** *** **** *******.

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Undisclosed #11

In reply to Brian Karas | 11/07/21 03:15am

***'* ******* **** ****** *** ******* up ** **** *** **** *******.

** *** **** * *** *** sales ********, ***** ***** (*****?) *** go?

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John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Undisclosed #11 | 11/07/21 12:41pm

* ** *** **** ****'* *** best/right *** ** ***** ***** **. Turing **** **** ****** **** ******** average *********** *** ******* **** *** opportunity ** **** ** *** **** customers ** *** **** *** (***-**** PRC-made ********) **** *** *****/**** ** AI / ****** / *****.

***, ** **** *****, * ****** Hikvision *** ********* ***** **** **** level ** ******** ***** ***** ** many ******** ********* *** ****** *********, at ***** **** *** *********** ** long-standing ********* *********, *** ******* ***********, yes/no?

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Undisclosed Integrator #8

11/05/21 07:01pm

** ******* ******** ******?

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Undisclosed Manufacturer #4

In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #8 | 11/05/21 07:25pm

**** **** *** ********** ******

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Undisclosed Distributor #9

11/05/21 08:38pm

* **** **** ******* ** ***** used ** * **** ********** ** try ** **** **** ********** ** what ******* ** ** * **** shonky *******.

**** ***** ***** ** ****** ** encourage ** ** **** ******* ** do **** *** ******* ** *** products.

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Larry Tracy

11/05/21 10:51pm

**** *** ***** ** *** ****, little *** ****** *** *** **** the ***** ** **** *** ***** people **** ********* *** **** * US ***** ** **** ****, *** our *********** *** *** **** *** stupid ** *** *** ****.

*** ** *** **** *** **** which ***** ************, ** *** ** find *** , *********, **'* ******** or *** ***** ********** ***** *** them *** *** ****** ******, ****** maybe *****.

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John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Larry Tracy | 11/06/21 12:31am

**** *** ***** ** *** ****, little *** ****** *** *** **** the ***** ** **** *** ***** people **** ********* *** **** * US ***** ** **** ****

********* ********, *** ** ********. *****'* tons ** ******** ***** ******** ****** to **** ***** ************ ********* *****, e.g.****** **** ****** $** ******************* ****** $** ********** ******* *** ****-*** ****-********* ** the ******.

**** *** *** * ********** ******** academic ********** (*** ** ******** *******). I ***** ****** ***** **** **** (both ** *** *** *** ***).

*******, ************ ****, * ***** **** your *******. **** ***** ***** ** fever ******* *** **** ** *********** China ********* ******** ** ******** *** well-funded *********.

***/***, ** ** *** **** ****** them *** **** ** ***** ******* (like ******, *********, *** *** ******** other ********* ******** *******), ****** ****** happily ********. ** **** *** ***** anyone ******* ** ****** *** *** money ** ****** **** *** *********, either **** ***'* ****, ***'* ***, or *** *** ***** ** ****** from *** ***.

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Larry Tracy

In reply to John Honovich | 11/07/21 04:44pm

*** ***** ***** ** ********* ***** and ********** ****** ****** **** *** this ****** ******* **** **** **** been ******* ***** ***** *** ****** of ***** ********* **** ****** ****. Some *** **** **** *** **** a *********** ******** ******.

*** ***** **** ***** **** **** told **** *** ****** ** ***** jobs **** ** *********.

** **** ***** ***** *** ******** background ** **** ***'* **** ** can *** * ******** **** **** many ********.

***** ** ** *********** ** ***** , ** *** ****** ** *** selling *** ****** ********. ******* ******** it ******* ******.

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John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Larry Tracy | 11/07/21 05:27pm

**** ********* *** ********* **** **** concerned ***** *** ****** ** *********, recall*** ********* *** ******** ******* ***** rumors ***** **** ***** ** ***** out ** ********. ** **** ***, * ***** it **** ** **** ********* ** leave.

** **** ***** ***** *** ******** background ** **** ***'* **** ** can *** * ******** **** **** many ********.

******. ****** ** *** *******, *,*** miles (** *,*** *****) **** *** right ********?

** *** ****** ** *** ******* any ****** ********. ******* ******** ** another ******.

*********** **********, *** *** *********, *** products *** ******* ****** ********** ****** is ****** ** *************, ***** ****** things, ** *** ******** ************* ** its *** ******* *********** **** ******. Turing ******** *** *** *** ****** of *********** ** ******?

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Undisclosed End User #10

11/06/21 02:03am

**** * ************ ** ******** **** them *** * **** ** *** of *** *********, ***** *************** ******* to ****** ***** ***** ******* ** NVRs **** ************ *** ** ****, only ****** **** **** **** *********. When **** **** *********, ********* **** were *******. ** *** *’* *** impressed **** *** ********* **** ********* a ********* ********** ** ****.

*’* **** *** **** **** ***** analytics *** **** *** **** ********* has ** * ****** *********** ** people ******* *********** **** ** ** effort ** *** * **********.

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John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Undisclosed End User #10 | 11/06/21 02:08am

**** * ************ ** ******** **** them *** * **** ** *** of *** *********, ***** *************** ******* to ****** ***** ***** ******* ** NVRs **** ************ *** ** ****

***********, ****** ** ***** ** ***-**** vs ********** ****** * ****. * don't *** *** ****** ** *** telling ****** *** *** ***** ** find *** ******. **'* *** ***** to **** ** ********, **'* ******* thing ** **** ** **** ***** directly.

*’* **** *** **** **** ***** analytics *** **** *** **** *********

**** ********! * ** ******* *** well **** *** **** **** **** generally (******* **'* ****** ***** ******** or ***** ****** ******* **** **** and ****) *** * ******* ** someone *** *** ****, ** *******, would ** **** ** **** ***** away, ****** **** *******.

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In reply to Undisclosed End User #10 | 11/08/21 12:34pm

*’* **** *** **** **** ***** analytics *** **** *** **** ********* has ** * ****** *********** ** people ******* *********** **** ** ** effort ** *** * **********.

*** **** ***** * ***** ******** see ** **** ** ***** ******* a ******** ***** *************. **** ***** save *** ******** ***** * *** minutes ******** ** *** ******** **** and **** ** *****. ** ** is * **-**** ***** ******* ** is **** * ***** ****** ***** for ********** ******* ***** ********.

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Robert Shih

Independent
11/06/21 03:28am

* ******* *** ***** ***** ********* thing *** **** **** ********.

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11/06/21 08:18am

**** **************** ****** **** *******

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Undisclosed #11

In reply to Undisclosed Distributor #9 | 11/07/21 03:45am

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John Honovich

IPVM | 11/08/21 01:43pm

***** ** * *-****** *********** * **** ********** **** ******'* CEO **** *** *******:

**** ****,**** **** * ***** *******, ***** **** ****** ***** **** being *** "*** ****** ** *** security ***** ******" ******** **** **** "two ***** **** ******** ****** ******** than *** ****** ******", "********** **** "basically ** *** **** **** ** the ******". ** **** *** ******** how **** ****** **** ******** ** who *** *********** ******* ** ***.

***, ** ****, ******** ****** *** not *********** ********* ** ******'* ******* with *** ***** ***** ** ***** cameras, ********** ********, *** *** *****, e.g. ***** ******* ********:

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**** **** ***** **** ** ********** from ******** ** *** *****, ********* he ******** ******* / ***** **** his ******** *******.

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Undisclosed #12

11/08/21 07:13pm

*** **** *** ***** ********* *** Turing *** ** ***** ******* ********, but **** **** ******* ***** ** a ***** **** **** **** ****. Makes *** ****** ** ***** ***'* some **** ** ****** ****** ** jointly ****** *** ******- *** ** those *** ***'* **** ***** ****/************* and *** ** ***** **** ** before ******* **** ********...

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IPVM | In reply to Undisclosed #12 | 11/08/21 09:02pm

***** *** **** ****** *****, ** is **** ** ** ******* *** my ***** ** *** ** **** Turing ** ***************** ***** ***** *********'* business ****** **** ******* ********* *** Turing *** ************ ** ******** ******** to ******.

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Undisclosed Manufacturer #6

In reply to John Honovich | 11/08/21 10:12pm

**** ** ******* *** ***** **** company ******* *** ** **** ********* from ******* ***** **** ******* ******* cooperation.

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IPVM | In reply to Undisclosed Manufacturer #6 | 11/08/21 10:19pm

*****, * ***'* ** *******, *** what *'** ***** **** **** ***** was: (*) ********* *** ********* ****** the *** ** ********* ***, (*) the *** ********* *** ********** ***** Jeffery ** *** *** ************ **** liked *** (*) ****** *** * lot ** *****, **** *** ***********. It ***** ** ******** **** ********* agreed ** ** **** *** * am ********* ** ****, ***** ** what * **** ** ***.

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Undisclosed Manufacturer #15

In reply to John Honovich | 11/22/21 04:07pm

******

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Undisclosed #13

IPVMU Certified | In reply to Undisclosed #12 | 11/08/21 11:27pm

*** **** *** ***** ********* *** Turing *** ** ***** ******* ********, but **** **** ******* ***** ** a ***** **** **** **** ****.

**** ***** **** *** **** ** trade **** * ***** ******.

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John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Undisclosed #13 | 11/08/21 11:31pm

**** ***** **** ** *** **** where **** ********* **** **** ********* aggressively ********.

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Undisclosed Integrator #14

11/09/21 01:26pm

**** ***** **** *****, ***** ** China.

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IPVM | 11/22/21 01:11am

******: ** ** ********* ** ****** **** **** **** ******, ****** **** **** *** ******* is ********* *** ******* ** ******** nor *********** ***** *** ******* ******** we ******** **. ****** **** *** ISC **** **** ******:

****** ********** ****'* ****** *********, *********** about ************, ****** **** *** ******* is ***** **** ********* *** **** they *** *** ********** ** *** PRC **********. ****** **** ** *** not ******* ** ****'* ******** ******* for ******** ******* **** **** ********* that **** ***** ***** ****.

*** ********* ** ***** ** ******'* own *********, ************ ******* ******** ************,*** ******* *********'* ***** ******, ****** ***'* *** ******** *******. ** **** **** ***** *** documentation ************* ***** ********, **** *** contact ** **** ******** ** **** effect. **** **** ***** *** ** do **.

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John Honovich

IPVM | 03/05/22 11:08pm

******,** * ******* **** ***********, ******'* **** ***** ** ************* his ******* **** ***********, *** ****** he ******* ***** ********* ** ****** 2021 *** ** *** ***:

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*******, ** ******* ****, ** * declaration, ***** **** *** ***** ** was ***** *********:

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**** *** **** *** *** ***** are ***** ****** **** ******'* ********** page:

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