The Real Turing President is Not Ron Rothman

By John Honovich, Published Nov 05, 2021, 10:06am EDT

In August, Turing made a splash announcing retired Honeywell Security President as the company's President. However, new legal filings contradict that showing the actual Turing President.

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Inside this note, we review the legal filings and how Turing has worked to obscure its actual President and executives.

Actual *********

** ********* **** ***** ******, * ****** *********** ********* ****** ********* *********, ****** ***** Xing ***** ** *********, as *** ********** ***** shows:

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**** ********** **** ******'* marketing. ******* ******** *** to ****** *** ******* repeatedly **** ****** ** published, ******* *********.

***** **** **** ** active ******** *******, ******, ***** ** lists *** ******** ** "operation [***]" *** *** President:

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Officers ** ********** ******* ************

********,******'* ********** ******* ************, ***** **** **** month, **** *** **** Rothman ** *** *** lists ***** ** ********* and ******* ********** *** as ***, ********* *****:

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***********,*** ***** ******* ** his ****** ******** ****, ** ****** * "software ********":

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*** ****** ******* ****** laughed **** ** ***** why *** ***** ******* that ***.

******* **** ****, *** also ****** *****************(*** ******* ********** ***** CCP ***** ********* ******, including ********* ****** ** Jinping). ** ********* **** to * ****** ********. Shortly ********** *** ******* Tsinghua **** *** ******** profile.

Turing **** **** ** *****, ** ***

******'* ******* *** *** a "**** ****"******* *** ********** *** with ** ******* ** its *** ********** ***** and ***:

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PRC ***** **********

***** ********** ******* ** Turing**** ***** ** *** company. **** *** ******* 2021 ******* ************, **** profile ***** *** *** Zhong ** *** **-******** of *** *******. ** also ******** ** *** companys' ********* *** ***** operations:

“*** *** ********* *** big ***** ** *** real ****** ********,” ****** Xing. *** **** ******* is ****** *****, ***** is ********** ** *** of *** *****’* ******* commercial ******** ********** *** conglomerates. ****** ***** *** been ******** ** *** of *** ****’* *** shopping *****....

****, *** *** ** charge ** ******* *** firm’s ******** ** *****, found **** *********** ** the ******* **** *** most ***** ** **** for *** **********’* ***********, providing ******** ******* ******** and ****** ******** ** existing ********. ** *** other ****, ********* **** the ** ******** * more ******** *** ************ solution *** *** ***.

*** **** ******* ***** the ** ********* * more ******** *** ************ solution ** ** **** with*** ****** ******'* ****** VSaaS ****** ** ****'* new ******.

Rothman *******

***** ** ** *** clear **** ******** ******* actually ***, **** **** the ******* ******* ** explain *** ******* ******* or **** *** ******** are *** **********, ******* is * ****** ********** to ********* *** *********, and **** ************ ********* dealers, ** ****** ** Turing.

Update ****** ******

******: ** ** ********* in ****** **** **** **** Report, ****** **** **** Ron ******* ** ********* but ******* ** ******** nor *********** ***** *** primary ******** ** ******** on. ****** **** *** ISC **** **** ******:

****** ********** ****'* ****** reporting, *********** ***** ************, saying **** *** ******* is ***** **** ********* and **** **** *** not ********** ** *** PRC **********. ****** **** it *** *** ******* to ****'* ******** ******* for ******** ******* **** were ********* **** **** would ***** ****.

*** ********* ** ***** on ******'* *** *********, including*** ******* ******** ************,*** ******* *********'* ***** filing, ****** ***'* *** ******** profile. ** **** **** their *** ************* ************* their ********, **** *** contact ** **** ******** to **** ******. **** have ***** *** ** do **.

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Undisclosed #1

11/05/21 02:28pm

*** *** ********* ********* of *********, **** * fresh *** ****. * will ** ********* ** they ****** ** *** real ******** ** *** US.

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IPVM | In reply to Undisclosed #1 | 11/05/21 02:32pm

* ***** ** ******* on **** *** ****** as "********". **** *** largely *** **** ****** selling *** **** ******** of ******** ** *** same ****** *** **** are *** ******** ***** by *** *** **********. To **** ***, **** should ** **** ** the ***** **** **** historically ****** *********.

** *** **** ** ADI, *** ****** ***** a $** ******* ****** business? ****?

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In reply to John Honovich | 11/05/21 02:50pm

* ***** **********, **** Hikua * **** ** this **** ** ********** on *****. **** *** mentioned, ** ***** *** now **** *** ***** OEM ******* *** *** facing *** **** ***** of ******** ********* ** actions **** *** **********.

* **** ***** **** have * ***** *** via ***** ***** ********* component. *** **** * saw **** ** ** interesting *** **** *** the *** ******.

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IPVM | In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #2 | 11/05/21 02:54pm

* **** ***** **** have * ***** *** via ***** ***** ********* component. *** **** * saw **** ** ** interesting *** **** *** the *** ******.

*** *** *** **** results:****** ****** ***** ******

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Undisclosed Integrator #2

In reply to John Honovich | 11/05/21 03:37pm

***, ** **** **** mentioned **** *** ********* making ******* ** *** fly ** **** ** the **** ** *** review ** ******* ******* from **** * ***.

***** ** ********* ******** one ** ***** ****, I ******'* **** ** VSaaS ** **** ** a ***** ********** ****** with ** ** ******** component. ***** ****'** ****** only ******* ***** *****, I ******'* **** ** that ** ** ******* location *** ******** *****.

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IPVM | In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #2 | 11/05/21 03:39pm

** **** ** *** info ** *** ****** is ******* ******* **** what * ***.

**** *.* **** ***? Perhaps, *** *****'* * lot ** ****** ******* from **. ** *** see **** ***** ************, feel **** ** *** us **** *** ** asked ****** ** ** the ****.

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Undisclosed Integrator #2

In reply to John Honovich | 11/05/21 05:41pm

* ***** * *** a **** ** *** demo. ** ****** ****** than **** **** ****** has *** ***** ******* quite * ***. * think **** ******** ****** it *** * ****** too ***** *** **** seem ** **** * lot ** ******* ****** quite *****.

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IPVM | In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #2 | 11/05/21 06:02pm

* ***** * *** a **** ** *** demo. ** ****** ****** than **** **** ****** has

** *** * *****-**** test ** *** **-**-**** production ******* ******* ** of **** ****.

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Undisclosed Manufacturer #3

In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #2 | 11/05/21 03:34pm

****** *** ******* ****** their ******** *******?

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IPVM | In reply to Undisclosed Manufacturer #3 | 11/05/21 03:37pm

#*, * ***** ** means *** ********. ** we ********* ******** ***** ***** ****** IP ******* *** *** Tested, ****** ** ****** from ******* *** ******.

** ***** ** ****** amazing ** ******* ********** what ****** *** ******* relabelling **** ******* *** Sunell...

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Undisclosed Integrator #2

In reply to John Honovich | 11/05/21 03:39pm

****'* *******. ** ***** when * ****** ** them **** ****** ******** the ******* ********** ** equipment *** ******/******.

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IPVM | In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #2 | 11/05/21 03:44pm

* ******* **** *** to *** *** ** other ****** ********* *********. They *** ********* *** open ***** **, ********* no ****** ********** ** their ***.

**** ** *** ******* example ** *** *********** of ***********. ***** **** tell ***, ***** **** won't. **** **** * guessing **** *** ** a **** ********* ** their ********.

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Undisclosed Manufacturer #4

11/05/21 03:39pm

** ***** ***** ** me **** *** ****** to **** ******* *********\**********. No *** ****** ***** this ******* ***** **** release * *****-***** ***** showing ***** **** **** and *** ** ** managed. ** ***** *** indication ** ***** ***** data ******* ***?

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Undisclosed #1

In reply to Undisclosed Manufacturer #4 | 11/06/21 02:08am

****** ******* **** *** want ** ** ********** with *****. ****'** **** a ***** ** ****** dudes *** *** ********* about ***** *******, ***** executives, *** ***** ********. Why ***** ****** ******* these **** ******** ** anything *****?

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Mark Palka

IPVMU Certified | 11/05/21 03:44pm

***** **** ****** ** a *** *** ****

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Undisclosed Integrator #5

11/05/21 03:58pm

* *** **** ******** about **** *********....*** *** these ********* *** ** into *** ********* ** too ************, **'* *** big ******* *******. * don't **** *** ********* and ***** *** ****** but ******* *****'*...*** *** expect ** ** ******* washington *****'* ****?

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IPVM | In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #5 | 11/05/21 04:02pm

* ***'* **** *** Hikvision *** ***** *** banned *** ******* *****'*...*** you ****** ** ** believe ********** *****'* ****?

******* ** *** **** well ***** ** *** US. ***, *** **** them **** *** **** does *** **** *** greater ****** *** "**********" does.

****, *** **** *** set ** ****** ****, nearly * ***** ***, when ******* *** **** less **** ***** ** the **. ******* ****** say ******* ** ******* a *** ******* ** the ** ** **** under *** ***** ** "Washington".

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Undisclosed Integrator #5

In reply to John Honovich | 11/05/21 04:20pm

******* ** ***** **** been *** ********* ** just ***** *** **** in **** * *** that ** *** *** encompassing? "*** ************ *** security ******** ******** ** manufactured **, ** **** components ******** ** ************ by, * ******* *****, wholly ** ** ****, by *** ********** ** China"

*** ****** **** ***** the *** ** ** such **** ** *** to **** ****** *****, it ****** * **** of * ***.

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Undisclosed Manufacturer #4

In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #5 | 11/05/21 07:24pm

** *** ********** ** surveillance *** ******** ******* is **** *** ***** and ***** ***** ********* of ******** ********* *******, PCs, ***, ***** ***** cause ***** ** *** economy.

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Undisclosed Manufacturer #6

11/05/21 04:08pm

** *** ** ***** puppet ********** **** ******* for * *** ** our ***** * ***** give *** ****** ****. This ** *** *******. They **** **** **** gig ** ***** **.

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Undisclosed Integrator #7

In reply to Undisclosed Manufacturer #6 | 11/05/21 05:58pm

**** ***** *****

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Brian Karas

In reply to Undisclosed Manufacturer #6 | 11/05/21 07:26pm

**** ** ** ******** as ****. ***'* ******* that ****** *** ******* up ** **** *** this *******.

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Undisclosed #11

In reply to Brian Karas | 11/07/21 03:15am

***'* ******* **** ****** are ******* ** ** work *** **** *******.

** *** **** * Hik *** ***** ********, where ***** (*****?) *** go?

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John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Undisclosed #11 | 11/07/21 12:41pm

* ** *** **** that's *** ****/***** *** to ***** ***** **. Turing **** **** ****** than ******** ******* *********** and ******* **** *** opportunity ** **** ** the **** ********* ** the **** *** (***-**** PRC-made ********) **** *** bonus/hope ** ** / robots / *****.

***, ** **** *****, I ****** ********* *** employees ***** **** **** level ** ******** ***** hired ** **** ******** companies *** ****** *********, at ***** **** *** perspective ** ****-******** ********* employees, *** ******* ***********, yes/no?

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Undisclosed Integrator #8

11/05/21 07:01pm

** ******* ******** ******?

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Undisclosed Manufacturer #4

In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #8 | 11/05/21 07:25pm

**** **** *** ********** monkey

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Undisclosed Distributor #9

11/05/21 08:38pm

* **** **** ******* is ***** **** ** a **** ********** ** try ** **** **** legitimacy ** **** ******* to ** * **** shonky *******.

**** ***** ***** ** enough ** ********* ** to **** ******* ** do **** *** ******* or *** ********.

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Larry Tracy

11/05/21 10:51pm

**** *** ***** ** for ****, ****** *** Turing *** *** **** the ***** ** **** all ***** ****** **** Hikvision *** **** * US ***** ** **** this, *** *** *********** are *** **** *** stupid ** *** *** this.

*** ** *** **** who **** ***** ***** manufacturer, ** *** ** find *** , *********, it's ******** ** *** China ********** ***** *** them *** *** ****** change, ****** ***** *****.

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John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Larry Tracy | 11/05/21 07:31pm

**** *** ***** ** for ****, ****** *** Turing *** *** **** the ***** ** **** all ***** ****** **** Hikvision *** **** * US ***** ** **** this

********* ********, *** ** disagree. *****'* **** ** investor ***** ******** ****** to **** ***** ************ companies *****, *.*.****** **** ****** $** million************ ****** $** ********** ******* *** ****-*** mega-companies ** *** ******.

**** *** *** * legitimate ******** ******** ********** (PhD ** ******** *******). I ***** ****** ***** fund **** (**** ** the *** *** ***).

*******, ************ ****, * agree **** **** *******. This ***** ***** ** fever ******* *** **** to *********** ***** ********* products ** ******** *** well-funded *********.

***/***, ** ** *** were ****** **** *** bulk ** ***** ******* (like ******, *********, *** the ******** ***** ********* recently *******), ****** ****** happily ********. ** **** not ***** ****** ******* to ****** *** *** money ** ****** **** USA *********, ****** **** don't ****, ***'* ***, or *** *** ***** is ****** **** *** PRC.

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Larry Tracy

In reply to John Honovich | 11/07/21 04:44pm

*** ***** ***** ** Hikvision ***** *** ********** people ****** **** *** this ****** ******* **** must **** **** ******* about ***** *** ****** of ***** ********* **** coming ****. **** *** will **** *** **** a *********** ******** ******.

*** ***** **** ***** they **** **** **** the ****** ** ***** jobs **** ** *********.

** **** ***** ***** Cao ******** ********** ** sure ***'* **** ** can *** * ******** with **** **** ********.

***** ** ** *********** to ***** , ** ADI ****** ** *** selling *** ****** ********. Dealers ******** ** ******* Avycon.

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John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Larry Tracy | 11/07/21 05:27pm

**** ********* *** ********* have **** ********* ***** the ****** ** *********, recall*** ********* *** ******** talking ***** ****** ***** them ***** ** ***** out ** ********. ** **** ***, I ***** ** **** it **** ********* ** leave.

** **** ***** ***** Cao ******** ********** ** sure ***'* **** ** can *** * ******** with **** **** ********.

******. ****** ** *** Rothman, *,*** ***** (** 8,000 *****) **** *** right ********?

** *** ****** ** not ******* *** ****** products. ******* ******** ** another ******.

*********** **********, *** *** customers, *** ******** *** similar ****** ********** ****** is ****** ** *************, among ****** ******, ** the ******** ************* ** its *** ******* *********** than ******. ****** ******** has *** *** ****** of *********** ** ******?

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Undisclosed End User #10

11/06/21 02:03am

**** * ************ ** meetings **** **** *** a **** ** *** of *** *********, ***** representatives ******* ** ****** where ***** ******* ** NVRs **** ************ *** by ****, **** ****** they **** **** *********. When **** **** *********, confirmed **** **** *******. So *** *’* *** impressed **** *** ********* they ********* * ********* department ** ****.

*’* **** *** **** what ***** ********* *** slip *** **** ********* has ** * ****** environment ** ****** ******* immediately **** ** ** effort ** *** * settlement.

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John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Undisclosed End User #10 | 11/06/21 02:08am

**** * ************ ** meetings **** **** *** a **** ** *** of *** *********, ***** representatives ******* ** ****** where ***** ******* ** NVRs **** ************ *** by ****

***********, ****** ** ***** an ***-**** ** ********** played * ****. * don't *** *** ****** of *** ******* ****** who *** ***** ** find *** ******. **'* one ***** ** **** it ********, **'* ******* thing ** **** ** when ***** ********.

*’* **** *** **** what ***** ********* *** slip *** **** *********

**** ********! * ** curious *** **** **** and **** **** **** generally (******* **'* ****** being ******** ** ***** things ******* **** **** and ****) *** * suppose ** ******* *** get ****, ** *******, would ** **** ** know ***** ****, ****** than *******.

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In reply to Undisclosed End User #10 | 11/08/21 12:34pm

*’* **** *** **** what ***** ********* *** slip *** **** ********* has ** * ****** environment ** ****** ******* immediately **** ** ** effort ** *** * settlement.

*** **** ***** * could ******** *** ** that ** ***** ******* a ******** ***** *************. This ***** **** *** security ***** * *** minutes ******** ** *** reported **** *** **** to *****. ** ** is * **-**** ***** feature ** ** **** a ***** ****** ***** for ********** ******* ***** products.

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Robert Shih

Independent
11/06/21 03:28am

* ******* *** ***** white ********* ***** *** only **** ********.

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11/06/21 08:18am

**** **************** ****** **** *******

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Undisclosed #11

In reply to Undisclosed Distributor #9 | 11/06/21 08:45pm

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John Honovich

IPVM | 11/08/21 01:43pm

***** ** * *-****** excerpt**** * **** ********** that ******'* *** **** Cao *******:

**** ****,**** **** * ***** company, ***** **** ****** about **** ***** *** "top ****** ** *** security ***** ******" ******** they **** "*** ***** more ******** ****** ******** than *** ****** ******", "concluding **** "********* ** own **** **** ** the ******". ** **** not ******** *** **** robots **** ******** ** who *** *********** ******* to ***.

***, ** ****, ******** robots *** *** *********** displayed ** ******'* ******* with *** ***** ***** to ***** *******, ********** products, *** *** *****, e.g. ***** ******* ********:

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**** **** ***** **** of ********** **** ******** in *** *****, ********* he ******** ******* / hides **** *** ******** profile.

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Undisclosed #12

11/08/21 07:13pm

*** **** *** ***** Hikvision *** ****** *** in ***** ******* ********, but **** **** ******* close ** * ***** show **** **** ****. Makes *** ****** ** there ***'* **** **** of ****** ****** ** jointly ****** *** ******- One ** ***** *** don't **** ***** ****/************* and *** ** ***** that ** ****** ******* else ********...

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IPVM | In reply to Undisclosed #12 | 11/08/21 09:02pm

***** *** **** ****** hides, ** ** **** to ** ******* *** my ***** ** *** is **** ****** ** opportunistically ***** ***** *********'* business ****** **** ******* Hikvision *** ****** *** coordinating ** ******** ******** to ******.

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In reply to John Honovich | 11/08/21 10:12pm

**** ** ******* *** China **** ******* ******* off ** **** ********* from ******* ***** **** company ******* ***********.

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IPVM | In reply to Undisclosed Manufacturer #6 | 11/08/21 10:19pm

*****, * ***'* ** certain, *** **** *'** heard **** **** ***** was: (*) ********* *** employees ****** *** *** of ********* ***, (*) the *** ********* *** leadership ***** ******* ** was *** ************ **** liked *** (*) ****** got * *** ** money, **** *** ***********. It ***** ** ******** that ********* ****** ** do **** *** * am ********* ** ****, based ** **** * know ** ***.

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Undisclosed Manufacturer #15

In reply to John Honovich | 11/22/21 11:07am

******

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Undisclosed #13

IPVMU Certified | In reply to Undisclosed #12 | 11/08/21 11:27pm

*** **** *** ***** Hikvision *** ****** *** in ***** ******* ********, but **** **** ******* close ** * ***** show **** **** ****.

**** ***** **** *** kind ** ***** **** I ***** ******.

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IPVM | In reply to Undisclosed #13 | 11/08/21 11:31pm

**** ***** **** ** ADI **** ***** **** companies **** **** ********* aggressively ********.

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Undisclosed Integrator #14

11/09/21 01:26pm

**** ***** **** *****, owned ** *****.

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IPVM | 11/22/21 01:11am

******: ** ** ********* in ****** **** **** **** Report, ****** **** **** Ron ******* ** ********* but ******* ** ******** nor *********** ***** *** primary ******** ** ******** on. ****** **** *** ISC **** **** ******:

****** ********** ****'* ****** reporting, *********** ***** ************, saying **** *** ******* is ***** **** ********* and **** **** *** not ********** ** *** PRC **********. ****** **** it *** *** ******* to ****'* ******** ******* for ******** ******* **** were ********* **** **** would ***** ****.

*** ********* ** ***** on ******'* *** *********, including*** ******* ******** ************,*** ******* *********'* ***** filing, ****** ***'* *** ******** profile. ** **** **** their *** ************* ************* their ********, **** *** contact ** **** ******** to **** ******. **** have ***** *** ** do **.

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