Industry Study: 83% of US Temperature Screening Sellers Falsely Say Not Medical Devices

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Joey Walter
Published Jun 29, 2020 15:31 PM

83% of US companies selling temperature screening devices, aka 'fever' detectors, claim they are not medical devices, contrary to FDA definition, showing widespread abuse and undue public risk.

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Executive Summary – FDA Positions, Seller Responses

  • The FDA considers devices used to detect elevated skin temperature as medical devices, while sellers acknowledge these purposes and promote them as benefits to sell products, they claim they are not medical devices.
  • The FDA says these products are adjunctive diagnostic devices, subject to correct operation, performance and labeling guidelines but sellers are avoiding this.
  • This is causing undue risk to the public and, as our study shows, is widespread. We have forwarded a copy of this report to the FDA so they are aware.

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25 out of 30 sellers are claiming their devices detecting elevated skin temperature are not used for a medical purpose, instead claiming:

  • "from our perspective we educate dealers that they are not medical devices, not FDA approved, not a fever diagnosing camera" (Brooklyn Low Voltage Supply, reseller)
  • "These are not medical devices or medical grade devices. Our use is for general purpose temperature" (Nelly's Security, reseller)
  • "It is not a diagnosis, merely a tool to sort out people faster" (ENS Security, reseller)
  • "not a fever diagnosing camera" "We are a security company, not a medical company" (123 Security Products, reseller)

Clearly, these products have the ultimate goal of finding potentially febrile individuals during a pandemic. This is a "medical purpose" regardless of what wording the sellers we surveyed use.

30 Sellers Surveyed by IPVM

IPVM surveyed 30 companies who either manufacturer, relabel, or resell these products, including:

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We did not survey manufacturers of FDA approved products, since those are, by definition, medical devices.

For the phone calls we conducted, we called the general sales numbers for each company to reflect the normal practice of buyers. When asked what company we were from, we did identify that we were from IPVM.

1-25: *** *******

123 ******** ******** (*** *******)

*** ******** ************ **** ******** ****** / ******** ******* **** *** *******are *** ******* ******* in a phone call with IPVM. The company explained, these products clearly say they are not a medical device and they are not concerned about FDA adherence.

**** *********, ****** "** *** * security *******" *** *** * ******* company.

**** ***** *** ******** *** ******* fast, *** **** ******* **** ** be *** ** *** **** ******** on *** ******. ** *** **** support, **** **** ******* ** ** be "**** ****", ** **** ******* feedback ** ************ ************ *** *** up.

*****, ******** **** **** ** *** ****** system:

2MCCTV (*** *******)

********** **** ******** ******* ******* *** ** **** temperature ***** ************* *** *******are *** ******* ******* in a phone call with IPVM. The company explained, the devices do not have to be FDA approved and are not medical equipment.

**** *********, ****** *** ******** **** temperature ******* **** **** **** ******* for **** ****** *** ***** ******* well.

**** *** ******* ****** ** *********** and *******, *** ******* * **** video *** ************ ************ *** ***** to *********.

** **** ***** ** ************, **** ******** *** ********* ** "Thermal ******* ******* ********* ***********":

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Adorama (*** *******)

*********** **** ******* *** *** ******* ********** **** *** *******are *** ******* ******* in a phone call with IPVM. The company explained, the devices are used for "engineering or mechanical applications" and a "different license" would be needed for medical devices.

Amcrest (*** *******)

*********** **** *** ***** *********************** **** ********************* ************ **** *** *******are *** ******* ******* in a phone call with IPVM. The company explained, they tell clients they are not medical devices and not intended to cure, treat or prevent any type of illness.

**** *********, ****** **** *** *** a "**********" *** * ******* ******, and ** *** ******* "*** *********".

**** ***** **** **** ******* * demo ***** *** **** *** **** without ******** *** ******** ** ***** the ****** ********, *.*. ******* *** away **** * **** ******.

*****, *** ******** ** *** *******:

** *** ******* *****, ** *******, a ********** ****:

***********: **** ******* ******* **** *********** Camera *********** ******** ******* **not ******** ** ******** *** *** *********, ********** ** ********* ** *** ******* ** *********. The solution is a screening tool that businesses and households can use to identify individuals with elevated skin temperature compared to a customize-able reference temperature on or entering their premises. [emphasis added]

B&H (*** *******)

*&***** **** ************ *********, ******* *** **** ******* cameras**** **** *** *******are *** ******* ******* in a phone call with IPVM. The company explained, their device buyers haven't seen "any claims or any insinuation" that manufacturers are making medical devices.

**** *********, **** ***** **** ********* directly **** ***** ******* *** *** a ******* ******, *** **** *** FDA *********. **** *** ********* ********* to *********'* ***** *** ************ ***************.

**** ***** **** *** ******** *** guidance, ****** **** ****** ** *** know / **** *** ****** *********** on ******* ************* *** ****** ******* devices.

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Brooklyn *** ******* ****** (*** *******)

******** *** ******* ********** **** ********* *********+, *******, *********, *** ***** kiosks / ******* *** ******* *********** **** *** *******are *** ******* ******* in a phone call with IPVM. They explained:

**** *** *********** ** ******* ******* that **** *** *** ******* *******, not *** ********, *** * ***** diagnosing ******

**** *********, **** *** *********** ** their ********* **** *** **** ***********. Their ************* "*** ****** * *** of ******** *** ************", *** **** leverage *** ***** ******* ** *****.

CreativeStar (*** *******)

**************** **** *****-**-*** ********** **** *** ******* *** *** medical ******* ** * ***** **** with ****. **** *********, **** ******* installation ******* / ****** ** *********, but **** ** *** **** ** any *************** *** ***** ** ***.

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Dahua (*** *******) [*** *******]

*************** ******** ***** ***************** ** '*** * ******* ******'. Now, **** ****** ********** "*** ***-******* ** ********" *** do *** ******** **** ***** **** they *** ****** ******* *******.

***** ******** ** ******* ** ** on *** *****.

* *****'* ********* *** **********, ********* 2MCCTV, *******, *&*, ******** *** *******, and ***, **** ** ********** **** are *** ******* *******.

[******: ** **** *, ****,***** *** ****** * ***** ***************** ***** *********** ********* ******** (**** cameras *** ********) *** ****** ******* devices, ******:

***** ******* ********* *** **, *** commonly ***, **** ** *** ********* for ********** ********** *********, *** ** such,qualify ** “******* *******” as set out in the FDA guidance. [emphasis added]

ENS ******** (*** *******)

*** ************ ***** * ******** *********** ********* ************* *********, *******, *****, *** ***are *** ******* ******* in a phone call with IPVM. The company explained, the devices have "medical grade caliber accuracy" but are "educating users it is not a diagnosis, merely a tool to sort out people faster".

**** ***** ** ***** ** *** guidelines, *** ******* "******** ** * first *******" ***** **** "**** ************" in ***** **** ********. **** ******* stated:

** ** ****** ***** ***************, **** are *** ***** **** ***** *******

*** *******, **** ********* "*** ***** lines" ******* **** ***** ********* *** away **** ******* ******* *** ****. This, ***** **** "******** *********" ********* to *** ****** ** ** ***** 6-8 ****.

*** *********** **** ****** **** **** that **** ******* * ***** *** Sunell ****** ** ******* ******* *** NYU ******* *********, ** "******** *** technology".

*** ******** ******** *** * ********** campaign *** ************ ******* *********, ** **** *****:

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Feevr – *.**** (*** *******)

*****, ** *.****, **** **** *************are *** ******* ******* ** * ******** ****** ** ****.

***** ********** ************ * '*** * ******* ****** statement, **** *****:

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*.**** *** *** ******* ** *** request *** *******.

Global **** Supply (*** *******)

****** **** ********** **** ******* **** ******* ******* ********** **** *** *******are *** ******* ******* in a phone call with IPVM. The company explained, the product is not a medical device and is not FDA approved.

**** *********, ********** ** ******** '******** skin ***********' **** * ******* *******, but ****** ****** **********:

**** ************ **** **** ** *** can ****** *** ********** ** **** temperaturebased ** *** ****** ********** ********* [emphasis added]

**** *****, ******** ** *** *** **** ****:

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Hikvision (*** *******)

************* **** ********** ****are *** ******* ******* in both ****** *********** ******* ** ******* ** * ***** **** **** IPVM.

** ******* *********** *********** ***** ****, **** ***** ******** "are *** *** ******** ******* *******" and "*** *** ******** *** *** in *** ********* ** ******* ** other **********":

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***** ****** *** ********* ** *** phone ***** ** ********* ** *****. They *********, "** **** **** *** client ***** ** ** *** ** FDA ******** ******* ******".

** ***************** *******, **** *** ******* "intended *** *** ** *** ********* of *******" ** **** *** *** sold *** *** ** *********** ** mechanical **********.

InVid (*** *******)

********* **** ********* '*****' ******* **** **** ******are *** ******* ******* in both ****** *********** ******* ** ******* ***** ***** **** ****.

** * ******* ********, ***** ******* shows* ************* ******* ***** ******** "*** *** FDA ******** ******* *******":

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** *** ********** ***** ***** **** InVid *** **** *****, **** ********* to ******* ******* *******. *** ******* explained,

** ******* *** *** ******** ******* device. ** **** ******** **** *********** it *** ** ********** * ******* device. ** ** ******** ** ** used *** ***** **** ** ******* as ***-*********. ** *** **** ********* for *** ******** *** ***** ** no *********.

LT ******** (*** *******)

** ************ **** ***** ***** ******* *********** **** *** *******are *** ******* ******* in a phone call with IPVM. According to a salesperson, one of the company's project managers confirmed that the cams are not a medical device, and not FDA approved.

****, *** *********** ****** *** ***** statement ** * ******-** ***** ** IPVM:

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********* ** *** *********** *****, *** PM ****** **** *** ***** **** "so ********* ** *** **** **** without ******** **** *** ****** ***** 19 ******".

Luxand (*** *******)

********** **** ***** ********-*************** *** ***, *** ********* ******* AI,are *** ******* ******* and not FDA approved in a phone call with IPVM.

** **** ************** ***********, *** ******* ** ******* *******:

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******, *** ***** ********* ****** ** "for *********** *********" ... and "thus ******** *** ****** ** *****-**".

******* *** ***, * ******* ****** ** **** if ** **:

******** *** *** ** ***diagnosis ** ******* or other conditions, or in the cure, mitigation, *********, ** ********** ** *******, in man or other animal [emphasis added]

**** ******* ********* **** ** ***** criteria.

************, ******* *********** ****** *** *********** on ***** ******* ******** ************************ ** ****** ******** ****** **** would ******* ***** * ****** ******* device *** *********** *** ********. ********* to *** ****, ** ** ***** on *** *********' ******** ******. ** they *** ***** *** * ******* level ** ********, **** *** ** FDA ******** *** "**** ** $***". However, **** *** ****** ** * pre-screening ****** ** ***** ******* ****** with ** ***** ** ***********.

**** *** **** **** **** ****** has ******* *** ** *** ***** screening *** "***** ***** ***** *** early ** *********" *.*. *** *********, based ** ***** ******** ************* ** China ********* ***** *** *******.

Nelly's ******** (*** *******)

*****'* ************ **** ********** ************* ***** ****** *********** **** *** *******are *** ******* ******* in a phone call with IPVM. The company sales rep explained:

***** *** *** ******* ******* ** "medical *****" *******

**** *** *** *** ********

***** *** ** "*** ******* ******* temperature"

*****, * ******* ***** ** ************ ****** *********** & **** *********** Detection *****:

Optiview (*** *******)

************ **** ******** *********** ********* & ************ ********** **** *** *******are *** ******* ******* in a phone call with IPVM. The company explained, they have been selling thermal products for 3+ years and claim to have been following NDAA, but are not as familiar with FDA guidelines.

**** ******* * ********** ***** *** being * ******* ****** / *** being **** ** ****** *****-** ** a *******, *** **** **** ******* price *********. **** **** **** *** sell ********** ***** ** **** **** it ***** ********** ****** ***** ** accuracy.

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PlatinumCCTV (*** *******)

**************** **** *** ***** ******* ******* and ****** **** **** *** *******are *** ******* ******* in a phone call with IPVM. The company explained, they are using Dahua's recommendations on whether it is a medical device, and "that is all they have to go off so far".

**** *********, ****** **** *****'* ************ manuals *** ************ ** ***** *******, however **** ** "*** ***** **** for *** **** *********" *** **** support ******* *****'* ******* ** ************.

**** **** **** ******* *** ******** since ***-***** *** **** ********* ******* feedback / ***** ****** **** **** can *** *** "******** ***********".

*************, *** ******* ***** ******* ************ * *****-** **** / *******:

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PopID (*** *******)

********* **** ******** *****+, * *********-***** '******** ******' ****** / *****,are *** ******* ******* in a phone call with IPVM. The company salesperson explained, the product is designed to perform an "audit trail" that captures employees' faces and names, and records an associated temperature.

**** ****** ** ***********, *** **** **** **** *****. It ** **** "***** ********* **** HIPAA *** ****" ***********. **** *** clearly ****** ** ******, ** **** also ***** ** ** ***** ********* with *** *** *** **********.

*******, **** ************* ***** ****** *** 'medical ******' *****:

*** ****** ****** ** *** * medical ******.

****, ******* ************* *** **** *******:

*** ******* ******* ** ****** *********** thermal ********.

*************, *** ****** **** "**** ***** COVID-19 ******* ********* ** *** *****".

**** ***** *** **** ***'* **** the ******* ****** *****, *** ******** was **** *** ****** **** ***** management *********** ** ******* ** **** for *** ********. *******, **** **** "probably ***" ** ***** ******** ****** the *.*. ********** ******** ****.

*******, **** ******* ********* ***** ** the '********' ******:

******** ********** ********** **** **** *******.

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Supearior (*** *******)

************* **** ************** *********** ********* *****are *** ******* ******* on both their website and in a phone call with IPVM.

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** **** *****, **** ****** * prominent ****** *****:

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*******,*** ******** *** ****************** **** ****** ********* *********** ********* ******* *******, *** an *********. *******, *** ****** ********** acknowledges *** ******* ** **** ** diagnose *****-**, ** *** ***** *******, by ****** ** ****** *** ** "solely" ****** **** ** ********.

**** ******* **** **** **** **** filed ** *** *** *** ********. Thus, **** ******* ****** ******* ** marketing ** * ******* ******.

TEquipment (*** *******)

************** **** *********** **** *********** ********* *********** ****** ** * ********are *** ******* ******* in their ******** *********** ********* ********* & ********** Compliance *******, **** ** */**/****.

** **:** ** *** *******,** **** *************** ***** ******* *** ***** * 'medical ******':

*******************************'*********************,***'***********************************************************************-*******. [******** *****]

************, ************* *. *********** ***:** ** **** *****:

You **** ** ** ***** **** ***'** *** ******* **** *** *** *******. And if there is what I'll use, now, the term positive, the red light goes on or negative, I suppose the red light goes on. It's not you're not telling them they have Corona virus, you're not telling them they have anything. You're ****** ****** * ************* ** *** ****** **** * ************* **** **** **** * *********** and you want to have a policy and be clear with it. You **** **** ****** ** **** **** ***'** *** ********* *** ******* ******. [emphasis added]

** *** ******* ***** ****** ****** the *******, ********** ********** **** *** identifying ******** **** * "****** ******* of *****-**", ** *** **** **** saying "**** *** *** ****** ** diagnose *****-**":

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The ********** ****** (*** *******)

*** ********** ********** **** *** ******* **** *** reselling, *************** *********+,are *** ******* ******* in emails sent to IPVM. CEO ******* *************:

** ********* ***** * ********* *** never ***** ** **** ****** ** a ******* ****** / ** **** as ***** ***** ** *** ****** being *** ********

***** *** ***** ** *** ***** / *** ******* *** ******

** *** ********* ** ********* ***** ******'* *********+ ******** *********** and **** ********* ******:

Truyo (*** *******)

********* **** ******** *********** ****-***** ********* *** *******are *** ******* ******* in a phone call with IPVM.

***** ******* *********** ***** *** **** that *** *******'* ******* ** ** serve "****** ********** ************", ***** ******* also ******** ** ******** *****-**:

** ********** ***** ** **-****,COVID-19 ** ***** ***-**-**** *** *** ********** including hospitality, education, retail, healthcare, and transportation. With data privacy as a priority, these industries are seeking to adapt and implement stricter, contactless, social distancing, and wellness check measures before they can re-open.

***** *** ********* ** **** *********** complywith *** ****** ******** ****** *** ****** ********** ************. It is a turn-key market-ready solution to help get you back to business. [emphasis added]

********** ******* **** *****:

ZKTeco (*** *******)

IPVM Image********** **** **************+****** ** ********are *** ******* ******* ** ****** **** ** ***** ***, as ******** ** ****.

** **** *, ****, ****** ******** ************* ** **** ******* ****:

** *** ********** *********, *** *********+ ****** **not ********* ** ******* ******* and we make ** ****** ****** *** ****** ******* ********. Therefore our SpeedFace+ is currently exempt **** *** **********. If FDA informs us otherwise, we will do whatever is necessary to be compliant. [emphasis added]

****: *** **** *********** ****** *** false, ***** ******** ****** **** ***********, not ****.

*******, ****** ***'* ******* ***** "*** can ****-*********** **** ****** ********* *********?"********:

**** ********* **** **work ****, they put many people at risk. With the SpeedFace+ series readers, they can help ********** ***** ****high ****-*********** [emphasis added]

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******* ******* ****** ******* **** ** be **** ** ******** **** *******, contrary ** ***** ****** **** **** "They ****** ****** *** ****** **** temperature".

Zyter (*** *******)

********* **** ********** ***** ***** ******* ********** **** *** *******are *** ******* ******* in a phone call with IPVM. The company explained, they are "not in the business of medical devices or providing medical services", or that they, in particular, are not responsible as they are "not in the camera business". Instead, they are simply "providing thermal imaging software as a service".IPVM Image

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ADT (*******)

******* **** *********** **** *********** (***) *********** **** *** *******are ******* *******, in a ****** ******* ******* ** ****. *** ******* *********:

** ** *** *** ********* ******** on **** **** ******** ***** **, we ****'* **** ** ***** *** we ****'* **** ** *** ** wrong. ** ** ********* *** ******* we *** **** *** **** *** the ********, ** **** **** *** own ******** ******* ****** **********, *** our ********** ** **** ***** **no **** ******** in the face of the FDA. The cameras used for the purposes we intend for our customers to use them, to measure relative skin surface temperature for the safety of your employees and occupants, to ******* **** **** *** *** ******* *******. So we concluded and we are continuously convinced that these ******* *** *** ********* *** ***** *** *******, even when used in a non medical environment that's very important. [emphasis added]

***** ** *********** *** *******, ******** **** *** ***'* ********'* declaration ** **** ******:

Aurora ********** (*******)

****** ************** ********** ***********-***** *******are ******* ******* in a phone call with IPVM. The company explained, "we can basically say it's a medical device", as an FDA application has been submitted and they are confident about being being FDA compliant and following all regulations for screening.

**** *********, **** *** *********** *** tablets ** ***** * ******* ******* and "**** *** ****" **** **** to ** * ***** ** ** Class *** ******* ****** **** *** market *** ***** ******** *** ** a "**-** ********".

**** *********, ***** *** **** *** only ***** ** ** * ******* device **** "********* ***** ** **** in * ******** ***********, ** *** way".

JCI (*******)

******* **** ************ **** ********* *******are ******* ******* in *********** ******* ** ****.

************, *** ******* ** ***************** *************, ****:

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*** ********* **** ***** ******* **:

***** ****** ** * ******* ****** under *** ********* ** *** *****-*-**:**** and *** ***/** ****:**** ***** **** be **** ** **** *********** *** medical ********* ********* *** *** *** 510 (*).

******* ********** ** **** ****:

********* ** *** ******* ********* *** explicitly ***** *** *** *****-*-* *** IEC *****-*-**:**** ** ** ******* **** that *** ******* **** ** ****** against.

** ** ******* ** ** *** long ** **** **** *** ** obtain ****.

Optris (*******)

********** **** ******* ******* *** ***** *********are ******* ******* in emails to IPVM. They are currently filing for FDA 510K certification, although it is not yet completed.

***** ***,*** *******, *********:

** **** *** ********* *** *** 510K ************* ******* *** *** ******* we *** ********* *** ***** ********* butwe ***** ****** **** *** *************** **** ** *** ***** *** *************** *** ***** *********. When I was a VP for FLIR, I set up the 510K certification and have no ***** ** ***** ******* ******* ** **** *********** *** **** ******* ******* ** ***** (** *********, *** ******** *** ********** *** *** *********** ******* **** ******** *** ******* ** ********** *********** *********, ***.). [emphasis added]

*** *** **** ********** *** ***** below, ** "***** ******* *** ****** FDA ***************":

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**: *******, *** ** ***** ** Being *** ********

Creative ******** **********

******** ******** ************** ********** ******* **** *********** / *********** Measuring ********** *** *******are ******* ******* in a phone call with IPVM. Their salesperson explained:

** *** **** ** ** ** a ******* ******? ** **** **** you *** ******* ***?

** ********* **** ** * ******** asks, ** ***** **** **** ** is * ******* ******.

*** *********** *********, ******:

** ** ********** *** ********

*******, ** ***** ** ****** *********** that **************** **** **** *** ******** ** are ** *** ******* ** ***** approved. ****** ****** * ****** "************* ************ & ****** *******" ****** ********** *****.

*******, *** *********** ****** *** ********** of *** ******** ** ****** ** sold *** "** ****** ** * university", *** *** ****** ** ***** for ****.

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Ross Vander Klok
Jun 29, 2020
IPVMU Certified

**** **** ******* ** *** **** what ** ********* *** ***** *** where **** ***** ** *** ******* question. **** ****!

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Zachary S.
Jul 01, 2020
Gen IV Technology

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Michael Miller
Jul 01, 2020

** **** ********, ** *** ******** intended *** ******* *****, ****** *** "Screening" *** *** *** ***** *** who *** *** ***** (**** ** like * ***** ****? ** "****** Control")

**** ** *** **********? **** *** used ** ******* ***** **** ***********.

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Zachary S.
Jul 01, 2020
Gen IV Technology

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********** * ****** ** **** *** and *** * ********** *****, *** FDA ******** ** ********* ** ******** information *** *********.

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Michael Miller
Jul 01, 2020

*** **** ***+ ********* **** **** released "***** *********" ******* ** *** last * ****** ** ** **** ZERO ********. *** ** *** **** if *** ** ***** ******* *** accurate? *** *** ****** **** ******* requirements ** ******* **** *** ****** spec.

**** ** *** **** ******? ** force ***** ********** ** ***** ********* as *******? ***** ****** ***** **** up ** ********* ******** **** ********(** enterprising) ***-*****?

* ******* *** **** *** ** prevent *** ****** ** ***** ** measuring ***** **** ***********?

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Zachary S.
Jul 01, 2020
Gen IV Technology

*** ***** ****** *** *** ***** yourself? *** ******** ************, ********* ************ (Mercury, **). **** *** ******** ***** thermometers ******** ********* ************ ** *** same ***** ********.

* ***'* ***** ** *** ** the ************* ********** *****, *** **** our********************, **** *** ********* *** ****, and **'* ** * ********** ***********, it's ****** ********. ** ***** ***** a ***** ** *** *** ********, and ****** ***** ***'* **** *** that ***********.

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John Honovich
Jul 01, 2020
IPVM

**** *** ********** **********, **** *** calibrate *** ****, *** **'* ** a ********** ***********, **'* ****** ********. It ***** ***** * ***** ** get *** ********, *** ****** ***** won't **** *** **** ***********.

*** ***'* **** *** ******** ***** but *** ** **** ** ****** the ********** **** *** *** *** provided ** ****** *** ** *** create ** ***** **** ** ****** safety.

** *** *** ********* ** ******* for '********** ***********', **** ** * good **** ** *** ***** *********. To *** ********, *** ** ** example ** *** ****:*********** ********* **** *** ********** ****** and ****** ******* *** ********* *** FDA ******* *********

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Michael Miller
Jul 01, 2020

*** ******** *****'* **** ******* ******* cameras ** ** ******.

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Zachary S.
Jul 01, 2020
Gen IV Technology

**** **** **** ** ***** * feet ** *** ******. *** *** does * ****** ******?

*** ******** ****** ********* ** ***: Sneezes *** ****** ** ** *** feet.

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Michael Miller
Jul 01, 2020

*** ***** *** **** ******* ****** 200ft ****?

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Zachary S.
Jul 01, 2020
Gen IV Technology

*** ******* *** ***** * *** trying ** ****. ** ** ****** that *** **** ****. *** *****, for *************, ** **** *** ****** shouldn't ******* **** ** ********** ******** and *********** *** **** ******. *** should **** ********, ***********, *** **** common *****. ******** **** ** ** for *** ****** ****** * *****...

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Michael Miller
Jul 01, 2020

** **** *** **** **** ** doing?

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Zachary S.
Jul 01, 2020
Gen IV Technology

****, *** **'** ******* ***** **** link ** *** ***.

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Ross Vander Klok
Jul 01, 2020
IPVMU Certified

**** **** *** ***** *** *** hard ** ***** **** *** * would *******.

* ***'* **** ** ***** ******** of ********* ********** *** ** ********* with ********* **** * **** **** to ****** **** *** *** ******* up ** **. * **** ********* I *** *** ** **** ****/** that ***** ******* ******* * *** say "*** *** ******* *** *** approved". ** ***** ** **** **** go **** ****** **** *** ***********.

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Alan Smith
Jun 30, 2020

*** *** * ******** **** ****** without *********? *** ** *** ****** by? ****? *** *** *** ******* and **** *** *** ************** *** this *****? ***** **** ** ******** the ******.

(5)
(1)
MM
Michael Miller
Jun 30, 2020

** *** *** ** ***** ****** it ****** *** ******:

IPVM Image

(3)
JH
John Honovich
Jun 30, 2020
IPVM

****? *** *** *** ******* *** what *** *** ************** *** **** study?

*** ****** ** ** ****, ** are *** ***** ***** ****** ** both *********** *** ******* ** ******** in **** *****. **** *** *** author ** *** ****** *** ********* the ***** ***** **** *** ****** backed ** *** ******* ******** *** testing.

(2)
AS
Alan Smith
Jun 30, 2020

***** ***** *******? ** ******* *** having *** ************* ** * ******* outlet, **** ** ********* ****** ** world ******? ***'* *** **** ** have ** ****** ************* ** *** field ** **** ******** * ***** leader? ** *** ****** **** * blog *** ** ****** ******* ** a ******** /****** *** *** **'* research?

**** **** ** **** ************.

(2)
(5)
(4)
(3)
JH
John Honovich
Jun 30, 2020
IPVM

** **** ******* ***** **** * ********, *** *** ***** **** *** want, *** ** **** ** ********* background ** ******** *** *******.

****, **** ******** ******** ** ******** do *** *** ** **** ***** that *** **** ** ** ***?

(3)
(3)
RJ
Robert J. Miller
Jun 30, 2020

*'** ****** ** *** ***** * was **, *** **** ***** *****'* make ** * ****** ******. **'* still * *** *** * ********* industry. *** *** ***** ******* ** thermal ******* ** ************ ** ******** that *** * ****?

(2)
(1)
(2)
(2)
JH
John Honovich
Jun 30, 2020
IPVM

******, ****, ******* * *** ***** 16 **** *** **** *** *** I * ****** ******.

*******, ****'* *** **** **** ****.

** **** ******* (*** * ** not * ****** ****** ** * will ** ** ****), **** ***** buy **** **** *** **** ***** test **** ** ******* ****-***** ****** conditions. **** ***** **** ******* *** results **** *** *** ************* *** they ***** ******* ***** **** **** incorporating **** **** *** *****. *******, our ******* ***** ** ********* ** the ***'* *** ** *** ****** industry *** ***** **** **** ***** our ******* ** *** ******** ** the *******.

** ** ***** ****'* **** ** do, ** *******, **, ***** *******, VMS, *********, ***., ** *** *******, we **** ****, ** **** **** the ************* ********, *********** ***** ******** and **** ******* **** ** ******* around *** ***** ***** ** **** publicly ******** *** *** **** ******* and *********, **** *** ***** ** people ********* *** *** '****'.

(6)
(1)
(1)
PR
Pawel Rutkowski
Jul 01, 2020

** *** ********.

**** *** ****** **** *** ** motorcycle ****** **** * ****** ******* can ** ******* **** ******** +/- 0,3 *** *? ** *** ********* by *** ** *** ******** ******** in ***** ***. **** ******* ** just ****** ******** **** **** ** existance *** ****** ** **** *******. Most ** *** *** * **** seen ***** *****-** ** ******* ******* if *** ******** ********** ** ******** of ******** *** ********. **** *** testing *** ********* ********* ******** ** you *** **** **** ***** ****** something **** **** **** *** ********* what ** **-**.

******* ******* ***** ** ***** ***** camera, **** **** *** ************** ** measure *** **** ** *** *********** distance *-* *.

***** *** ****. **** ***** **** that.

**** *** **** *********: *** *** always **** **** *** **** *** present *******.

(8)
(1)
RJ
Robert J. Miller
Jul 01, 2020

** **** ** *** ****** *******:

*** ***'* *** * **** *** and **** ** ***** "**** **********" if *** ****'* * ****** ********. That ***** ** ********* ** *** fatal.

***** *** - ** *** ****'* an ****** *** ***'* ***** ***** a ***** ****** ** ******. ******* wrong **** ******* ** ******* *** all ** ****, ***** ** *******, it's ** ******* *****. *** ***** you *** **** **** ** *********** degree ** * *** ** "******** conditions" **'* *** ****** ********. **'* just ** *******.

(4)
(2)
JH
John Honovich
Jul 01, 2020
IPVM

*** ***'* *** * **** *** and **** ** ***** "**** **********" if *** ****'* * ****** ********.

* ****** ** **** * ***** surveillance ************ *** * ******** ******* integrator ****** ******** ****. *** **** testing ****** ****** ** ******** ******* integrators *** ***** ****** ******* ****. We *** '*******'.

**** **** ** *********** ****** ** a ***

***** ** ** **** ******** ** it ***** ** ***** ************. *** research ** *** ***** ** *** most ******** *** ************* ** *** world ** ***** ************, ******* *** like ** ** ***.

**'* **** ** *******.

*** *** ********* ******** ** **** opinion ***** **. *******, * ** think, **** ** **** *** *******, IPVM ***** **.

(5)
(1)
UI
Undisclosed Integrator #1
Jul 01, 2020

**** ** * **** **** ********** needs ** ** ******* **********. **** like *** *** **** *** ***** and ********* **** ** **** ********. There *** **** ******** ****** ** market ***** *** **** ******* ******.

(2)
UM
Undisclosed Manufacturer #2
Jul 01, 2020

***** ** ***** ******** ******* ** be ******* ******* ** ********** **** as ****. ***'* ** *** ******* that **'* ** ******** *********, **** will **** ***** *** ** ******** temperatures *** *** ******* ******* ** nothing *** *** **** ********** ** the *** ****. * ******* *** question ** ** ***** * ******* device **** *** ***** ** *** first *****.

(1)
(3)
JH
John Honovich
Jul 01, 2020
IPVM

**** **** **** ***** *** ** elevated ************ ... * ******* *** question ** ** ***** * ******* device **** *** ***** ** *** first *****.

**** *** **** ********* ** * medical ******. *********, *** **** ***** can ** **** ** ******** ** oral ***********, ***. *** **** *** clearly ******* *******, **?

(2)
ZS
Zachary S.
Jul 01, 2020
Gen IV Technology

***'* *** ** ******* - "* use *** ******* ***********, ** ***, no ********** *** ***% ******* ********** in ** ********* ******." * ** not **** ******* *********, ** * cannot *** **** * ** ******* Certified, ******* "**** **********" ******* ********* practices. ** **** *** *** **** kind ** *********?

(1)
(1)
UI
Undisclosed Integrator #6
Jul 01, 2020

****, *** *** **** *****, ***** is **** **** ** ****** ** warn ******** *****. ** * *** your ****'* ******* *** **** ** all ***** ********* ****** *** **** get **** ******* *** ******** ****** then ** ****** *** *** ** risk ** *** ******* ** ********* you ****'* *** ********* -*** ** my ******* ** ** ******** ** the ******* *** ********* "*** ***** rep". * ***** ****'* ***** ** that **** ** ***** ******* *** preying ** *** **** & ***** the ***** ** ****** ******* ** get ***** ** * ****** **** may ** *** *** **** ***, that *** **** *** ** *** not ***** ** ********. **** *** say ***** ***** **** **** ********* its *** *** ******** *** *** blah **** **** *** ****** ** manufacturing &/** ***** ***** **** ***** are ****** ** ***** ****** *** there, ********* ** **** ***** ********** to *** ***** ********, **** **** say ******** ** *** * **. I ***** ***** ******** ****** ********** be * "***** ******" ******** ** IPVM ******* **** ******* *** ** a *** ** *** **** *****. I *** *** ********** *** ******** they've **** *** *** *** ****'** presented *** ******* *** ******** ** to *** *********** ****** *** ******* review. **** ** *** **** **** IPVM.

(3)
(1)
ZS
Zachary S.
Jul 01, 2020
Gen IV Technology

*** * *** *** ****, *** get **. * ***** ** **** of **** ******* **** ***** *** you're ****** **** *** **** ** is. **** **** **** ** **** of *** **** *** ****** ******** in *** ******** **** *** "**** to *** ******."

(2)
UI
Undisclosed Integrator #5
Jul 01, 2020

"**** **** **** ***** *** ** elevated ************ *** *** ******* ******* is ******* *** *** **** ********** of *** *** ****". ************ "**** alert *** ** ******** ************" ** well *** * ***'* *** ****** arguing **** *** *** ******* *******. While ***** ******* *** ** **** for ******** *********** ********* ** *** kinds ** *********, ** *** **** of *** ***, *** ****** ** is ******** ** *********/******** *** *********** of * ****** (**** ** *********) it ** * ******* ******.

******** ****, ****** ***** *** ******** "any ******* ******* ** ******* *** the **** ********** ** *** *** user" ***** **** ** *** *** interested ** ******** ********* *** ***** to *** ********* *** **** **** to ***** ******** ** ***** ***** while ** **** ***** *****. *** customers *** ******* ** ** ** be *** ******* *** ******* **** on ********* **** ***'* ********** *** ramifications **, ******** *** ******** ** whether ***** ******* *** ** ********** as ******* ******* **** *** ********* a ***** **********.

(5)
(1)
ZS
Zachary S.
Jul 01, 2020
Gen IV Technology

**** ** ***** * ******* ** the ******** - ********* *** ***-****, and **** **** ********* ** *** who ** ****** **. **'** **** a *** ** **** ****** **** the *****, **** ** ***** ** can't **** ****** ***** ** **** from.

***** ** ** **** * ******** owner's ***********- ****'** ********** ***** ****** from * ********* *******, *** ********* medical ****. *** ***'* **** ******* to *** "** ****** ****** ** my ****** ******* ** ******* *** the ****** **** *********" *** ***** a ******* ** **** *****. **** thermometers ******* *****, ** **** ***** to *****. **** ** ***** ******* operate ** *** (**** * ******* to ** ********** ** *** *****) social ******** ** "*** ****."

**'* **** *** **** **** ** help **** **** ********* ** * ridiculous ***.

(2)
U
Undisclosed #8
Jul 02, 2020

**** ** ***** ******* ******* ** the (**** * ******* ** ** irrelevent ** *** *****) ****** ******** of "*** ****."

** **** ********* *** ********** ******* effective?

** ******* ****, ** **** **** 6 ****?

ZS
Zachary S.
Jul 06, 2020
Gen IV Technology

*** ************ ********** * ***** ** 3 ****. **'** *** ******** ************ from *-** ****, *** ** *****'* tested ******* **** ** ****, ******* I ******* ** ***** ** ****** just *** *******'* ****...

JH
John Honovich
Jul 06, 2020
IPVM

**'** *** ******** ************ **** *-** feet,

****'* *** ********** *** *** ** thermal ****** **** **** ****?

ZS
Zachary S.
Jul 06, 2020
Gen IV Technology

** *** *** **** ****** ** just *** *******-******** *******, *** *** resolution ** **** ***.

*** ********** ****** ******** "**********" ** terms ** *****, *** ** ***** for *** ******* ** ** ****, this *** ** ******* ***** **** the ***** ***** ** *** ******. The *** ** *** ****** ***** in **** ***** *** **'** ***** for ** *******. ***'** *** ********* FOVs ***** ******* ** ********* *** ours *** *******.

***********, *** *** ********* *** *** the "********* ****" ** ** ***** or *******, ****** ******* ******. ** our *****, *** ********** ***********, ** really **** ** ********** **** ** had *** **** *** **. ** if *** **** *** **** ********, same */*, **** ***********, **'* ****** accurate. * ******'* ****** ********* ****** use **** ****** ***-*****, ** ** a **** **** ******* ******** *********** etc...

** ****** * **** ******'* ********* it ** ** **** "*** *** be-all" ********, *** **** *** **** tool ** **** *******, *********, ***** many ***** *****.

(1)
JH
John Honovich
Jul 06, 2020
IPVM

*** ********** ****** ******** "**********" ** terms ** *****, *** ** ***** for *** ******* ** ** ****

******** *** ***** *** ******, ** in **** ****, *** **** *** equivalent ** ** '******' *** ******. Notice,***** ******* ******* **** ****** ** ****, ***. **** ****** per ****** *** **** *** *** 'resolution' ***** **** *** **** ****** / '******' **** *** ****** ***.

*** *** ** *** ****** ***** in **** ***** *** **'** ***** for ** *******.

** ** ******* ****, ** ** feet ****, **** ** * **-**** wide ***, ** *** **** * QVGA (*.*. *** * *** ******) sensor **** * ** **** **** FoV, *** ***** **** **** ~**.**** (*** ****** ***********). **** **** **** ***** ** you?

ZS
Zachary S.
Jul 06, 2020
Gen IV Technology

* ********** **** *********** *** ***** components *** *** ******* *******, *******, the ************ ** *** ********** ****** lists **** ** * ****** ********** than ****. * ***'* **** *** science ****** **** ******** "***********" ***** than ** ***** ** *** ********** of ******* ***** ** ** *** 60FPS ** **** (* ********** **********?)

* ***'* ******* **** ** *** make ** ******** *********** **** *** FOV *** *** **** ****** ******* the ********** ****** ** ******** ***** pixels, *** ***** ** *** **** now **** *** **** *** ***** pixel *****, **** ********** ** ***** on ************ ******* ******* ****** *** QVGA ** *** ****** *** *********, so *** *** **** ** ***** out **** ** ******** ********** ;)

**** **** **** *** *** ********* the ****** **** ** ** ****** or ******* **** *** ****, *** I ***** *** **** ** *** debate **'** ***** ** **** ** going ** ******* ****** "****** *****" and************* ** *** ******. ** *** don't **** *** ***'* **** ******** about *** ****, ** **** ** useless ** ***** ** **** *** point, * *****, **** ****** **** and *********/******** *** *** ****** ** make.

** *** ***'* *** **** **** belt ** *** ****** ******** **** you **** ****** ******* **** ********** in ** ********** *********.

(1)
JH
John Honovich
Jul 06, 2020
IPVM

********** ****** ** ******** ***** ******

****'* *** ********** (*** ********* *******). *** ******* ** *** resulting ***** ******* ** ***** *** and ********* *** *********** ** ****** a *******. (**** ** **** ***********, e.g.,*** *** *********). *******, ***** **** ****** *** near **°* ** **** ** *** magic ********* **** ** ****** *****, it **** **** ***** **** ** the ****.

ZS
Zachary S.
Jul 06, 2020
Gen IV Technology

********** ** ** *** **** ******** the ***** ********* ** *** ********** - *** **** ** *** ***** spot, ********** ******* ***********, *** ******/******* lighting. *** ****** ** ********** ****** shorter ** ****** ****** **** *********.

**'* ****** **** * ****** ** proper *****, * ******'* **** ******* a *.*** *** ** ****** *** let **** ****** ** ******* **** license ****** ** ***** **** ******* a **** ************. **** **** **** this ******. ****, *** *** ******, I ******'* ******* **** ****** **** any ***** **** ********* ***** ** one ***** ** ****.

UM
Undisclosed Manufacturer #2
Jul 02, 2020

*********, ** * *** *** ******* myself ****** -my ***** ** * ******* **** ******** *** **** '***********' **** ** ******** **. If a camera vendor is stating these are medical devices that is wrong (i assume all 83% are not stating that) so it would make sense if you are stating the handful of companies to promise this to be a medical device.

* **** ** *** ********** **** you **** ** '******* ***** **** are *** ******* *******' - ****'* why * ***** - *** **** stating ****. ** ***, **** *** not *****.

******* * ***** ***** ***** ******** would ** ******** ** ***** ********** engineering ***** **** **** ** *** a ******* ******. **** ***** ******** i **** ***** ****** ** **.

********* *** ***** **** ** * medical ****** **** ** *** ******** understand *** ******* ** ***** ******** and ***** *** ** **** ****** who **** ********* ** ***** ******* knowledge.

*******, **** ** * '********** ********' - ** ***** * ***** ** security (*** ***********) - ****'* **** important ** *** ******* **********.

********** ******* ** ****** ********* **** to * *********** ***** ** * medical ****** **** **** ** * medical ************. ***** *** **** **** defined ********** *** ************ ** *** FDA (******** ** *** ******* ** ********* Notification [***(*)] *********** *** ******** ********** Thermometers | ***)

(*.*. * ** *** **** *** any ** *** **** ********* *****)

(*.* * ***** *** **** *** doing * ********* *** *** *************** to **** ****** ******, ********** * do ******* *** ******** ******** ****** and * ***** ********* **** ** anyone ** * ***** ********. ** only ********* ** ********* *** ********* are *************** **** * ****** ******** :)

JH
John Honovich
Jul 02, 2020
IPVM

** * ****** ****** ** ******* these *** ******* ******* **** ** wrong (* ****** *** **% *** not ******* ****)

*** ************* ****. **** ** ****** what ********. ** ******* ******* **** either (*) **** ** ******** ** the ***** ** (*) *** ******* documentation ****** **** **** *** ******* devices.

***** **** ********* ** *** ******** this ** ***** ******* ****'* *** Joey ***** * **** ******* ******* companies ** **** ** **** **** directly.

*** **** ***** *** ******** ******** its ******** '******* ** ******* *******' this ****** **** ** ****** ** the ****** ***** ***** ** * significant **** ** **** ****** *******.

(1)
UM
Undisclosed Manufacturer #3
Jul 01, 2020

***** **** *** ******* *** ****** out **** ***** ***** ***** **** this ******. **, ***** *** *** medical *******, ****, ****. **** *** not **** ** ****** *****, ****, wink. ** ****'* **** ** ***** out *** ***** *** ** *** approval ** **** *** *** ******* devices, ******* ** *** **. **** want ** **** ** *** *** boys *******, *** ***'* **** ** pay *** *** **** ****.

* **** *** *** ** *** big ****. ** *** *** ******** and **** *** **** ** **** that *****. * **** ******* ** vendors ***** *** ******** ** **** a ****. * ****** *** ***** and ****** **** ***?

(5)
JH
John Honovich
Jul 01, 2020
IPVM

** ****'* **** ** ***** *** the ***** *** ** *** ******** so **** *** *** ******* *******, because ** *** **.

*** ****** ***** *** ** ** conforming ** *** *** **********.

* ****** ****** **** **** *** not * ******* ******, *********** (*** wrongly) ******* *** ****** ******* *** ********** (**** ** *** correct ********* **** ****** ** ***). **** **** *** *** ***************** ****** ** * *** ** a ***** ** ********* ** ******** and *** "*** ** *** *** a ******* ****** ** *** ***'* guidelines ***'* ***** **."

(2)
ZS
Zachary S.
Jul 01, 2020
Gen IV Technology

*** ** ** ***** *** ********? They're ********* ****** "**** ** *** FDA ********." *** ***** *** ** upset **** ***** ** *** ****** is ***? ****'* * ********* *********, is ** ***?

* ****** ***'* *** *** ***** here.

(2)
UM
Undisclosed Manufacturer #3
Jul 01, 2020

** ** *** ** ** *** vendor ** ********* ** *** ******* is ******** ** **** *** ********. They *** ****** **** ** ** not ******** *** ******* ********, *** they *** ******* ** *** ******* purposes. ***** * ******* ****** ** determine ******** **** ***********, **** ***** the ******* ** **** * ************* on ******* * ****** ****** ****** entry, ** ** ****** *******, ** making * ******* ********, ***** ******** FDA ********.

(3)
(1)
ZS
Zachary S.
Jul 01, 2020
Gen IV Technology

* ***'* ***** **** ** ** a ******* ********, ** ** ** access ********. *'** ******* **** ** is ** ****** ******** ***** ** temperature **********. *'** **** ***** **** the ******* ******** **** *********** ********** as **** (******* ** * ********* way), ** ** ***, ******** ** my *****, *********** *** ** **, temperature ***** *** ** ***'* ********** etc...

***·​*·​***|\ˈ**-**-*ə*\

********** *********

*: of, relating to, or concerned with ************ *** ******** ** ********************************************: requiring or devoted to medical treatment ***************** ********* ******* ****************

***** *** **** ** ****** ***** to * ********, ** ******** ********** ** ** *********** ** *** **** **** ** seek ******* ******. **'* ***** *** same ***** ** "*** **** **** a ****-**** ** ***** *** ******* store." ** ** ************* ** ******.

(4)
JH
John Honovich
Jul 01, 2020
IPVM

* ***'* ***** **** ** ** a ******* ********, ** ** ** access ********.

***'** ******* ** **** ******* *** the *** ***** ** *********** *** that's **** ****** ****** *** **. And ** ** **** ************,*************** ****** ******* ***** ** *** ** here.

(2)
(1)
ZS
Zachary S.
Jul 01, 2020
Gen IV Technology

**** ***** *** **** ******** ** freedom - *** ******! *** ********** is ****** ****** ** ******* **** we ** **** *** ******, **** we ******, *** *** *** ** measure *** "**** ********* ******** *****" of *** ****:

***** *** **** ******** ******** ** the ****** ****** ** ***************** ******* that ************** ********* *** ******* **** ************ into * *********** ***********.***************** ******* ******** *** ********** ** * ****** under ******* ***(*) ** *** **&****(** *.*.*. ***(*))*** ********* ** ***.

* ******* **'** **** ****** * leg ** ** *** ** *** competition ***** :* ****** ** ********** sensors ******* *** *****/*********** *** *** just (** ** ***) ** *********.

**** *** ***'* *** ********** **** of **** *****, *** **** **** mention ******** ***** * ***** **** of ****** *** ***** ***** ***. However, * ***** **** ** ************ by *** ******* **********, ***** * guess **** ** *** * ***** for *** ********** **.

* ****** ***** **** *********? *** classification ** *** ***** ** * "Device" ** *** ************* ** *** technology ** *** **** *****? ** the *** ** ********** ******* ********* then * ***** *'** **** ** mask ** *** * ***** ******... (FDA ******** ****! ****)

(2)
JH
John Honovich
Jul 01, 2020
IPVM

*** ************** ** *** ***** ** a "******" ** *** ************* ** the ********** ** *** **** *****?

*** *** **** **** ** **** the***'* ******* ********* ************* *** ** ********** ********* ********** in *** **** *****, ** *** testing *** ************.

(1)
(1)
UI
Undisclosed Integrator #6
Jul 01, 2020

*** *** "****, ****" **** ******* the "**** ** *** *** ********." that ***** *** *******. ***** ** more **** *** **** ** *** - ** ***** ***, * *** of ******** *** * *** ** misinformation ** ********** ***********. **** *** falls ** *** ********** *********** ******** I ***** ******* ** *** "****, wink".

(1)
ZS
Zachary S.
Jul 01, 2020
Gen IV Technology

*'** ****** ** ***** **** *** to **** ** **** ***** **

UD
Undisclosed Distributor #4
Jul 01, 2020

**** ****** *** ****** *********** ********* devices **** *** *** *** ******** if *** ******** ** *** ********* for ******* ***** *******.

(1)
(2)
(1)
JH
John Honovich
Jul 01, 2020
IPVM

**** ****** *** ******

** ****** *** **** ******** ** understand *** **** ****, ***** **** do ***, ***. **** ***** *** the ****** **** ****** ***********.

(3)
(1)
UI
Undisclosed Integrator #6
Jul 01, 2020

***, * ***** **** **** ***** look **** *** ******* **** ****** the "********" ***** ******* ** ** doesn't ****** ** *** ******** ****** it ****** ** ******* *** ******** professionals ******. ** ** **** ****** in *** ******** ******, ****'* **** IPVM ****!

(1)
UD
Undisclosed Distributor #4
Jul 01, 2020

** ******* ***** ********** ****** **** under *** *** ********* ********** ************* devices, ** ****** '*****' *******?

******* ******* ******* (******** ************* ******* / ******* ******* *******) | ***

*****-** ************ ******* ********

** ** ********** ***** ******* **** under **** *** ********** ** *** tablets *** ** ** ****** *** elevated **** *********** ****** *******?

********* ** **** ***** ** *****:

***-******* ******** ************ | ***

****, **** *********** ** ********** ** NCITs ***** *** ******** *** * medical ******* ***** ***** **** *** NCIT ** ******** *** *** ** the ********* ** ******* ** ***** conditions, ** ** *** ****, **********, treatment ** ********** ** ******* ***, therefore, ***** *** ********** ** "******" set ***** ** ******* ***(*) ** the ******* ****, **** *** ******** Act.

** ** ********* *****, ***. *** devil's ** *** ******* *** *********** devices **** ** ****** *** ******** temperature *** ******* ** *** ******* and ***** *** ********** ** *** reference ** ** ***.

*** ** **** **** ** *** seller ******* *** ***** ** *** guidelines ** *** *** ** **** like ******* *** ************* ******* *** the *** ***********? ** ******* ******** temperature **** *** *** ** ** FDA ******** ************ ******?

(1)
UE
Undisclosed End User #7
Jul 01, 2020

** ***** **** *********** ****** ** IPVM ***** **?

**** *** ***** ******** ****** ******** discussions *********** ****'* ********* *** *** rehashing ** ********* **** **** **** been ******* ** **** ***** **** it.

(1)
(1)
JH
John Honovich
Jul 01, 2020
IPVM

** ***** **** *********** ****** ** IPVM ***** **?

* ***'* **** *** * ***'* have *** ******** **** ********** ** objections ** *** ** **** ** do. * ****** ************ ****** ** able ** ******** ****** **** ******.

(3)
(1)
JH
John Honovich
Jul 01, 2020
IPVM

***** ******: *****,***** *** ****** * ***** ***************** ***** *********** ********* ******** (**** cameras *** ********) *** ****** ******* devices, ******:

***** ******* ********* *** **, *** commonly ***, **** ** *** ********* for ********** ********** *********, *** ** such,qualify ** “******* *******” as set out in the FDA guidance. [emphasis added]

*** ****** *** **** ******* **** this ******. ** **** **** ** a ********* ****** ********* *** ****** of ****.

(2)
RJ
Robert J. Miller
Jul 02, 2020

** *** ******* ** *** *****, the ***-**** *** ** ****.

(1)
JH
John Honovich
Jul 02, 2020
IPVM

******, **** ************ ** *** *** that ** ***** ** **** ****** that *** ***** **** ** ** fix?

UI
Undisclosed Integrator #6
Jul 02, 2020

"******, **** ************ ** *** *** that ** ***** ** **** ****** that *** ***** **** ** ** fix?"

**** ***** **** **** **** ******** to **** ***** * **** *** and **** ***** ******** **.

"** **** **** *** ***** **** a ****** **, *** *** ***** what *** ****, *** ** **** an ********* ********** ** ******** *** testing. ****, **** ******** ******** ** mistakes ** *** *** ** **** study **** *** **** ** ** fix?"

** ***** ** ** **** **** of *** (**** & ******) **** only *********** ******** ***** ** ************ or *********** *** ******** ** **** which ** ********* ** *** **** community ** *****.

* ***** **** *** **** * good *** ** ******** ***** ******** but ** * ****** ** *** community *'* **** ** ******* **** you ****** **** ******** ** ** can **** ********** ******** ***** ** a **** ****** *** ** *** IPVM ***** *** ** ****.

***** *** ** ******* ** * anticipate **** ******.

(2)
(1)
RJ
Robert J. Miller
Jul 02, 2020

* *** ** ****** *** ** download *** *** ***** *** * report ******** ** ** "******** ******" when **'* ******** ** **** ******. It's *** ** ********* ****** **** it's ********* ** **** ** *** IPVM *******. **'* **** ********* *** an ********.

(2)
JH
John Honovich
Jul 02, 2020
IPVM

* *** ** ****** *** ** download *** *** *****

*** ****** ***** ** ****** ***** here. *** ** *** **** ** pay ***** ** ******** **. *** PDF ******** ** **** * ****** formatted **** ** *** ****** *** have ******* **** ** **** ****.

RJ
Robert J. Miller
Jul 02, 2020

** **** ***** - ** ******* being ********* ** * *****. *** anyone ** **** **** *** ********* what * ***** ***** ****? *** can't **** ****** ** ** ******* in *** *** **** ** ** an "******** *****".

(2)
UI
Undisclosed Integrator #6
Jul 02, 2020

"******, **** ************ ** *** *** that ** ***** ** **** ****** that *** ***** **** ** ** fix?"

****, **** ******** ******** ** ******** do *** *** ** **** ***** that *** **** ** ** ***?"

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U
Undisclosed #8
Jul 02, 2020

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RJ
Robert J. Miller
Jul 02, 2020

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Undisclosed #8
Jul 02, 2020

******.

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UM
Undisclosed Manufacturer #9
Jul 07, 2020

****** **** ******** ** ***** ** software ** "*******... *****".

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Jeremiah Main
Jul 30, 2020
IPVMU Certified

* ****** *** **** ***** ********** push ******* *** ********* ****** **** regulate ****** ***** ************.

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