Software Only VMS vs NVR Appliances

By: Sean Patton, Published on May 23, 2018

Should you buy your own PC/server and load VMS software on it or get a turnkey appliance (both hardware and software, e.g., NVR, Hybrid DVR) from a VMS/NVR manufacturer?

While many feel strongly in both directions, both approaches have advantages depending on the scale of the system and the expertise of the deploying organizations. Our VMS/NVR deployment survey results showed 60% of systems are installed as VMS software installed on a server, and the remainder were turnkey appliances. In this report, we will examine the main drivers for both options.

In this report we will examine the advantages of each approach, focusing on:

  • Western vs Asian appliances
  • Setup Time
  • Hardware Flexibility
  • Virtualization
  • Troubleshooting
  • Recurring Costs
  • System Growth
  • Small vs Large System Deployments

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Western ** ***** **********

* ***** *********** ** the **** * ***** has **** *** ******** in ************ ** **** low-cost ***** **********, *** less ********* **** ***** Western ************. 

******* ***-***** ********** *** generally *-* ***** **** expensive **** ***** ******** ones. * - ** Channel *** ********** **** Asia ****** ** ***** from $*** *** ** under $*,*** ***, ** comparison ** ******* ***-***** appliances ** *** $*,*** - $**,*** *** ***** when ***** ********.

*** ********* ********** ** Western ********** *** **** native ****** ****** ************, developed **** ********** **** advanced ***** ****** *** Export *************, ****** ********* support, *****-****** **********, ****** Health **********, ************* *** User ********, *** *******, and **** *********.

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Appliances ******* ** *****

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Appliances ****** ** ******

***** ********** *** ********* start ********** ** ****** right ***** ******* **** on, ** ********** *** need ** **** *** to *** ** * PC/server *** ******* * recorder/VMS ***********. *** **** organizations, **** ***** ** knowledge ** ******* *** poses ** *********, *******, for ******, **** *** allow **** ** ** deployments **** **** ******* technicians.

Lower ***** **** ****** *** **********

***** ** ***** **** time *** **** ********* to *** **, ***** appliances ********* ******* ** lower **** ***** **** setting ** *** ********. This ** ********* * few ***** ***** *** may **** * *** hundred *******, ********* ** the ****** *** **** of *** **********.

Appliances ******** ********* / ****** *******

**** ********* ****** ******* to ** *******, ********** allow *** ****** ********** with ******* ***** ** the ***** *** ******** analog ***** *** ***-********* into *** *********. ** contrast, ******** **** ****** typically ******* ********** ******** encoders **** *** ****, complexity ** *****.

Software **** *** ****** ************ ***********

* ************ **** **********, you **** ** *** the ************'* ********. *** common ******** ***** ****:

  • **** ************ *** ************ using * ******* ******** (e.g., ****, **, ***.) and *** **** ********* terms *** ********* ******** with **** ************. ** appliance ****** **** * different ******** ***** ******* that ******* *** *** be ******* *** ***** or ***** ********** ******.
  • *** ****** ******* ******** specifications ** ********* ******* and *** *** *********** with ********* *** ********* provider. **** ** ********* only ** ***** *** advanced ********* *****.

** ****** ****, *** ability ** **** **** own ******** ** *** of *** ********** ** using * ******** **** solution.

Virtualization **** ******** ****

******* ******** **** *** can ** ********* ** any *******/***** ****** ********, many *** ********* *** use ** * ******* server ***********. ** *** hardware ************** ******, **** will **** ******** **** but *** *** ********** and ************ *** ************ and *******. ********** ** a ******* ****** *** require * ****** ***** trained, ****** **** **********.

Appliances ******** ***************

***** *** ************ ******** the ******** *** ***-****** the ********, **** **** much **** ******* *** a ****** ************* ** what ***** ** ***** and *** ** ************ it. ** ** **** harder *** *** ************ to ************ ******** ****** on ******** ******** ** ***** are **** **** **** variables - *.*., *** a ********* ********* ****** used? *** *** ******** loaded ** * ********* location? **** ********** ************ been ***** **** ***** conflict **** *** ***? Is *** ******** ************** - ***, ******, ***, storage, ***.? ** ***** simply ****** ** **** time *** **** ****** but, ** *** ***** case, ** *** ****** in ****** ******** *** blame ***** ****** **** it ** **** ********'* issues.

*** ****** ******* **** purchasing ******** *** ******** separately ** **** ** can ****** ** ****** two ************* *********** *** troubleshooting *** ************ ******. The **/****** ******** *** fall **** *** ***** while *** ********/*********** ***** to *******. **** *** increase ********** *** ***** delays ** ********* ******** compared ** ** *********.

Many ********** ******* ** ****** ******** *****

****, *** *** *** software **** *********, ****** annual ***** *** ***********/********* their ********. ***** ***** can ****** *** ******* license **** **** * 5 **** ****** (*.*, pay $*** *** * single ******* ******* **** another $***-$*** **** *** next *** *****). ** contrast, ********* ********* ********* do *** ****** ****** fees ***, *****, **** away ******** ********.

******** **** ********* ***** argue **** ***** ****** fees ****** ** **** more ******** ************* **** appliances **. ********* **** is **** *** *** always. **** ***** ****** be ********* ********** ** the ***** ********* *** is ***********.

Software **** ******** **** *********** ** *****

********** ********* **** *** offered ** * ******* of ************** *** ***** have ************ ** *** they *** ** ********. As * ******* ****, if *** ****** *** 16/32 ******* ***** ** even * ** * cameras, *** **** **** to *** ** ********** appliance. ** ********, ** using * ******** **** solution, *** *** ****** or *** ********** ** machines ** *** ******, as *** ******* ********* supporting * **** ****** camera *** ****** ***** (128-500). ** ******, **** assumes *** **** *** technical ****** ** ** so *** *** ***** that **; **** *** make ** ****** ** scale *** ************ ****** with **** *******, ****** resolution, ****** *******, ***.

**** ********* ******* *** offer ******** ***/*** ******* options ** ****** ******* storage ********, *** ***** do *** *** **** throughput ********, **** ****** retention *****.

Appliances ****** *** ***** ****** ***********

*** ***** **** *** setting ** *** ******** is ****** ********, ******* the ******* ** ******** 4 ** ** *******. It ***** **** * hours ** *** ** a ******* ********* * cameras *** ******* * for *** ********* ** cameras. *******, *** **** of ****** ************** ** a ********** ** *** total *** ** **** higher ** *** * camera **********. ** ****, appliances *** ************ ********** for ***** **** ***** cameras. *** ********, **** if * **** *** 1000 ******* *** **** were ***** ****** *** locations, ********** ***** ******* a *********** ********* ** it ***** ********* *** labor ** ************ *** machines.

Software **** **** ****** ** ***** *******

**** ********** *** ******** at ***** ** ******* camera ****** - *, 9, ** *** ** cameras ***** *** **** common. ** *** **** more ******* ** * given **** ** **** demanding ************ (***** **** resolution ***/** ***** *****), generally ******** **** ** a ****** ****** ** you *** ********* *** hardware *** **** **** demanding *****. 

Comments (65)

Shannon Davis

TED Systems | 05/23/18 03:12pm

**** ** ***** *** Western ************* **** ** get **** *** ******* and *** **** ** fast. ** ** ******* harder *** ****** ** sell ******* **** ******* IP *** **** **** Base ********. *** ** the ******* **** *** two ** *** ******* SSA's **** ** *** VMS ******* *******. *** manufacturers **** *** *** pay *** ******** *** don't **** **** *** get **** ** *********. Well **** *** ***** of *** ********* ** so **** **** *** a **** ******* ******* it ** **** ** compete. **** ********* ***'* want *** *** ***** and ******** ** * VMS ****** *** ** they ** **** ** the ********** *** ******** to **** **** ** the **** ******** ********.

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Sean Patton

IPVM | In reply to Shannon Davis | 05/23/18 08:44pm

*'* *** ******* **** appliances ****'* ************ ******, and ** *** *** for **** *********, *** almost ***** ********** ***** NVRs ** *** ******* in *** **** ********** point:

**** ********* ***'* **** all *** ***** *** whistles ** * *** system *** ** **** do **** ** *** appliances *** ******** ** have **** ** *** same ******** ********.

** ** *** ****, customers ***'* **** *** bells *** ********, *** on *** ***** **** appliance ************* *** ****** bells *** ********.

* ***'* ******* ****'** doing **** ** ***** their *********, ** ***** customers ******** **** ***** bells *** **** *** whistles?

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Sean Nelson

Nelly Security | 05/23/18 08:25pm

** ******** ** ****, appliance ******* ****** ***** more *****. *** ** a ** **** *** the ******** *** ****** costs *** **** **** may **** ********** **** it ** *** *** clunky *** * ***** system. *** **** *** PC's ***** ** ****** anyways :)

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Sean Patton

IPVM | In reply to Sean Nelson | 05/23/18 08:36pm

****** ********: **** "**** that *** **** ********** with **" *** *** refering **?

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Sean Nelson

Nelly Security | In reply to Sean Patton | 05/23/18 09:01pm

********** ***** ** *** better ****. 

- ***** *** **** to *** * ** and ******** *** **** thing ** **** ***** surveillance. ********* ** *** software, *** *** **** to *** * ***** of * ** ** that.
- **** *** ***** buy *** *** ****** licenses ***** ** * huge **** *** ******** to ** ********* ***** has * ****** ****** of "********" ***** **.

** *** *** **** more **** ****** ***** past *** ***** ** what ** ********* ***** cost.

- ** **** ******** wants ** *** ******* camera. **** *** **** do *** **** ** pay *** *** ***** camera, *** ***** *** for ******* **** *******. not **** *** *** custy
- ** *** ** that, ** ****** **** that **** ** ***** softwares **** **** ****** fee's *****? ****!

**** **** * *** system *** ********:

*** **** **** * customer **** * ******** installed *** * ***** system **** **** ** because **** **** **** that ****** ** ** integrator **** ***** ** build **'* *** ********* their ********.  ** ******* me, **** ** *** day, ** *** **** who **** ** **** to *** ** ********* DVR ***** ** ********* when * ********** *** made *** *** **** sense *** ********.  *** kind ** "**** ** boy. No ********** *** **** is ** ****** *******.

* ***** ** **** customer *** ***** * fair ********** ******* * PC/Software *** ** ******** DVR, **** ********* ***** choose *** ********* ***** the **********, *** *****, and *** ********** **** need *** **** **** are ****** ** **********.

Michael Miller

In reply to Sean Nelson | 05/23/18 09:06pm

****, **** ******* **** a ******** *** ** 8 ******* ***/*** *** wants ** *** * more *******? *** *** have ** **** **** another ***/*** ** ***** replace *** ******* ***/*** with * ****** ****.  What ***** *** ****** the **** ********** *** and *** **** **** are ** ********* *****? 

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Sean Nelson

Nelly Security | In reply to Michael Miller | 05/23/18 09:15pm

*** *** **** ** it **, ****** ******* 8 ******* *** ** upgrading ** * ** channel ***** ***** ******** be ******* **** ****** 1 ******* ** *** software.

Michael Miller

In reply to Sean Nelson | 05/23/18 09:17pm

**** ******** *** *** talking *****? * **** swapping out ** *** *** a ****** *** ** has * *** ** **** in *****.  *** **** to ********* *** *** channels, ***** ***** *****, motion *********.  ****'* **** **** money **** ****** ******* license.

*** **** ****** ******* would ** **** * cheap *** *** **** over * *** ** because of *** *****. **** they ******** *** *********** they *** *** *** ****** video. 

 

 

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Sean Nelson

Nelly Security | In reply to Michael Miller | 05/23/18 09:25pm

**, ** *** ***. i **** **** *** much *** ****** *** your ****, *** ** would **** *-** ******* at *** **** ** these ***** *******. * mean ** *** **** very ******** ****** ***** and ****, *** **** a ****** ******. **** likely ****** ** *** are ****** *** **** series ********, *** *** simply ****** *** ****** and ****** ** **** the *** *** ***** would **** *** ** ****.

** *** **** ******, if *** ******** ** buying * ******* ** begin ****, * ***** recommend **** ** **** a ** ******* *** to ***** **** ********* altogether. ***** * * ch ********/** ****** ** cheaper **** * ** ch ******** ********?

Michael Miller

In reply to Sean Nelson | 05/23/18 09:28pm

**, ** *** ***. i **** **** *** much *** ****** *** your ****, *** ** would **** *-** ******* at *** **** ** these ***** *******. * mean ** *** **** very ******** ****** ***** and ****, *** **** a ****** ******. **** likely ****** ** *** are ****** *** **** series ********, *** *** simply ****** *** ****** and ****** ** **** the *** *** ***** would **** *** ** time.

 

** **** **** ***** themselves to *** ********'* ****? I *** ******* * VMS ******* ******** *** ******* the ****** ********. 

Ty Mullen

COR Security, Inc. | In reply to Sean Nelson | 05/23/18 09:08pm

**** ****** ******** *** good ** ******* **** are ******* *** ******** easier ** ***** (*** necessarily ***).

** **** * *** more ********, *******, ****** certainly ****** ******* **********. But *** **** *********. 

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Sean Nelson

Nelly Security | In reply to Ty Mullen | 05/23/18 09:19pm

**** ** * **** part ** *** ****** equation ********** **** *** spread ******* * ******* is **** *****. *** ** ask *** ****, ** you **** ** ********* that *** ****** * 4 ** ******, *** equally *** ****** ****** them * **** ** a * ** *** with ******* ** * 4 ** **/******** **** cameras. *** **** **** out ** **? ********?

**** **** ***** ****, standalone ******* ****** *** not **** **** ** use *** *** ****** of **** **** ****** need **** ***.

** *** ****** **** software **** **** ****** than ** ******** ******. A ******* ** **** badazz **** * ***** civic ** ****.

 

Michael Miller

In reply to Sean Nelson | 05/23/18 09:26pm

****, * **** **** interest playing *** "*** *** the ******** ******* *** **** is ***** ** *** hacked" **** **** *** love ** ****.  * don't **** ** *** price ** **** ********* that ***** ******** *** make ******* ***** ******. If *** * ******** cares ***** ** *** price **** *** *** a **** ******** *** us.  

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Sean Nelson

Nelly Security | In reply to Michael Miller | 05/23/18 09:44pm

* ***** **** ** fluster ***, * **** you *** ********** ***** your ********. * ***** you *** ******* *** point ** ***** ** a ***** ******. *** not **********, *** ** is * **** *** part. *** **** ** admit **** *****? * mean *** **** ******** tell ** **** *** majority ** ********* *** going ** **** * 4 ** ******** ******** PC ****** **** * low **** ******** ****** when ********** ********* **** the *. *** *** you ***** ********** ** this **** ** ********. Well **** ** ****, but **** ** *** majority ** ********* ********* that **** **** **** of ****** *****? 


***** *** ******* ******* and ***** *** ***** dealers. ***** ** * demand *** ****. *** *** are ***** ** **** a **** **** ******* a ******* ** * person *** ***** * 4 ** ****** **** a ***** ***** **** do **** ****. ** other ***** * ***** out ** **, *** user **** *** * Honda.

*** ******* **** ** 64 ******* ** ****.

 

 

Ty Mullen

COR Security, Inc. | In reply to Sean Nelson | 05/23/18 09:56pm

*** ******* ** ***** it's ** *****. ******* who **** * ******* is *** ****** ***** first ***. **** **** already ***** * ***** and * *** ******. Now **** *** ***** to **** **.

**** * ******** ** comfortable ****** *** *** cost ** * ****** has **** ** ** with type ** ******** *** specific ******** **** ** does ***** *** **** cameras **** *** ******.

* *** *** ****** location ** *** ***** to *** * ** based. *** * ******** sized ******** ** *********** certainly *****. 

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Sean Nelson

Nelly Security | In reply to Ty Mullen | 05/23/18 10:02pm

* *** *** ****** location ** *** ***** to *** * ** based. *** * ******** sized ******** ** *********** certainly *****.

******! * ***** * *** kind ** ****** **** all *****. ***** ******* = ********. ********** ******* = ********

Ty Mullen

COR Security, Inc. | In reply to Sean Nelson | 05/23/18 10:20pm

*******/*********** **** ** ** geared ** *** * few ********* *** *** all. **'* ***** ** sale *** ******* *****, BMW, *** *******. *** sales ****, ******* ****, and ******* **** *** strategies *** **** ** doing ****** **** ***'* necessarily ********* ****** *** vertices. 

**** ****** *** ***'* tend ** *** ******* contractors ** ********** **** mainly ** ************ **** doing ******. **** ** it's *** **** ****** footage. 

** ******* **** **** they ****'* ********** ** this **** ** ******** or **** **** ** customer ***** *****. 

* **** *** **** my ***** ** ****. The *** *** ** based ******** **** ** lower *** *****. ** would ** **** ** move **** ****** ** that ********. 

*** **** ******** **** to **** ** **** a ****** *********. *** should *** **** ** explain ***** ********* ** a **** ********* (**). Also ***** ***** ** be * ****** *** of ******** ******** **** like **** ** ********* on **. **'* ** if *** **** **** up ** * ******.

*** *** ** **** need ** ******** ***** and ******** *** ***** tech *******. 

Michael Miller

In reply to Sean Nelson | 05/23/18 10:30pm

** **** **** **** a ****** ***** *** customer *** **** **** NVR/DVRS were ******* *** ****.  They *** * ********* DVRs (*) * ******** and (*) ** ******* all ** *** ******.   It *** ** ********** and **** **** ** control *** *******, ****** video *** ******.   ** showed **** * *** solution ***** ***** **** one *** ****** ***** *** everything ** ********** *** one ********* *** *** much ****** **** ***** search *** ***** *** export *****. **** **** *** VMS **** *** ***** DVRs.  ***** *** *** best ********* *** **** that **** ***** **** *** the **** ** ***** cheap ***/****.

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Jon Dillabaugh

Pro Focus LLC | In reply to Michael Miller | 05/23/18 10:33pm

*** ******* ****** *** the ***** **** *****. Just **** * ******* cameras ****** **** **** plus *** ********** **** server. ****** ** **** a ** ******** ****** and ** *** ***** a *** *****. ** we ***** **** ****, they ***** **** *** much **** ******* *********. 

Brent Gable

In reply to Sean Nelson | 05/24/18 02:38pm

****, * ***** **** analogy ** ***....**'* **** like * ******* ** a *** *****.  **'** get *** *****, *** you ***'* ***** *** ride.  

Ty Mullen

COR Security, Inc. | In reply to Sean Nelson | 05/23/18 09:28pm

* ***** * **** it ***** **** ******** are *******. **** **** always **** ******* **** in *** *** *****. I ***'* ***** **** anyone *** ******** **** that. 

*** ***** ** **** 99% ** **** **** is *** **** ****** to *** ****.

*** **** ** *** always *** ****-* ****** that *** ***** *** basing ***** ******** **. That ** ****** ** true ****** *** *******. 

Brent Gable

In reply to Sean Nelson | 05/24/18 02:35pm

***'* **** * ******** 16CH ******....**** *** ******** wants ** *** **** 17th ******, *** **** to **** **** ******* appliance.  *** **** ** it **** ********* **** to *** * *******, but *** **** "******" for *** *** ****.  Hopefully **** ********* ************ has * **** *****-**** VMS ******, *** **** if **** **, *** now **** ** *** this ********** ****** ** everyone's ****** *** ***** even **** ** ****** custom ****** ******* ** make ** ****.  ** you *** ****** *** camera ******** ** ** existing ******, *** ***** and ***** ******** ** scale ****** ********* ** less.  

 

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Jon Dillabaugh

Pro Focus LLC | In reply to Sean Nelson | 05/23/18 10:22pm

****, * ***** *** are * ***** *** in *******, *** **** is * ****** *** take. ** *** **** how **** **** **** it ** *** ** end **** ** *** a *** (************ ** Witness/DW ********/****** ****), *** wouldn’t **** *** **** stance ******* ****. 

** **** *** **** of *** ******** ****** because *** **** ** use ** *** *** choice. ** *** **** Dahua ** ********* ********* if ***** ** *** only ********. *******, ** a ****** ***** **** a ****** ***** *********, they **** ****** *** the ***** *******. 

*** ** *** *** as * ***** ****** is **** *****, ********. Computers ****’* **** ********* to ******* *** ******** if **** ******** *** configured. ****, **** ** our ******* *** ** least * **** ******* downtime. **** ****, **’* usually ******** ** ******* that ********* ********. 

**** ** *** ******* with ******* ********* ***** USE ****. ****, **** may **** ** *** on ***** ***** ** watch * **** ******, but **** **** ** clue *** ** ** an ************* ** ****** video. ****** ***** **’* very ********* *** *** average *** **** ** figure ***** ****** ***. Heck, * **** ******** on **** ** ***** systems. 

*** **** ** *** it’s ********, *** *** a *** ****, *** imager ******* ** ****** that ****** *******. *** also ******* *** ****** updates *** ****. *** I *** *** **** ease **** ******* ***** has *** **** ******* support * **** **** needed ** ***. **** worth *** ******* ****.

****** ****, * **** you ***’* **** ***, so * ***’* ****** you ** ******** *** their ***, *** *** really **** *** ** someone *** ***’* **** tech ***** **** *** use ********* ** * dog *******. 

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Sean Nelson

Nelly Security | In reply to Jon Dillabaugh | 05/23/18 10:49pm

* **** **** ** Witness *** * ***** its *********, ********** ******** in **** ******* **** embedded *****. *** * love **'*, * ** using *** ***** *** as ** *****. *** kidding *****, ** **** to **'* *** * think **** *** **** to ***! * **** think *** ******** *** most ****** *** **** a ***** ******. * was ****** ********* *** clunkiness of *** *******, *** footpriont, *** *** ***** compared ** * ********** which * ******* ** a ***** ********.

* ***** ** ***** is ******* ***** ******. I ***'* **** **** software ** * ***** option *** *** **** superior *********** ******** **** some ******** *****. ***  I ***** *** *** trying ** **** ** on **** *** *** do *** **** **, i *****. 

*** ******** *********** **** a ******** ***********...

*** *** ******** ** customers **** **** * small ******, ** ******** system ***** *** **** sense ***** *** ****** are **********. **** ***** one ** *** ***** considerations. *** ***** *** cost ***'* **** *** most ******* *****. *** ALL! *** ****. 

**** ** *** ******* with ******* ********* ***** USE ****.

**** ******** **** *** majority ** ****** *** need * ***** ******.

* ***** ** **** my ***** *****. *********** all *** ** ** systems ** **** ***** are ** *** *****, do *** ***** ***** are **** ********/** ******** or ******** *****. *** why?

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Jon Dillabaugh

Pro Focus LLC | In reply to Sean Nelson | 05/23/18 10:59pm

***** ** ******** **** you ****. *** **** always **** ***** ** work **** *** **** been **** ******* ** the ****, ** * say ***** ****** **** all *** *******. 

* ***** ***’** ************** of *** **** **** small ****** ***** ***’* use ***** ******* ** the ****** *** *** approach *****. ***** ****** one ** *** ** clients *** ***, *** usually **** *****, **** cameras. ** ****** **** sure **** *** ******* we **** **** ****** of **** ** ****. No ****** *** ***** a ****** ** *****, it’s **** ** **** IF **** *** **. If *** *** **** never **** ***** ******, they ****** **** ***** expand **, ***** ** a *** ***** *** both *******. *** **** they *** **, *** sooner **** *** ***, and *** ****** **** leverage ***** **********. *********, if **** ***** *** it, ****’* *** *****. It’s ****** *****.

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Sean Nelson

Nelly Security | In reply to Jon Dillabaugh | 05/23/18 11:10pm

*** **** **** ** powder **** ** *** me *******. *** *** not ************* ** ***.

***********, ** ***** ***** remains. **** *** ****** who **** * *,*, or ** ** ****** and ******* **** **** both *******. *** ******** wins **** ** *** time. *** ** ***?

Michael Miller

In reply to Sean Nelson | 05/23/18 11:56pm

*** **** **** *** manufacturer ** **** ****/**** support ******** ********?

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Jon Dillabaugh

Pro Focus LLC | In reply to Michael Miller | 05/23/18 11:59pm

********** *** *** ***** units **** **** *********. It’s *** ****’* (** other ****) ***** **** these ******* **** ****** exploitable *** ** *** others ***** **** **** to *** ***** ** release *******, *** ** the *** ** *** a **** *****. **** simply ****’* **** ***** older *****. **** ***** rather *** *** * new ****. **** **** boxes. 

John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Jon Dillabaugh | 05/24/18 12:38am

**’* *** ****’* (** other ****) ***** **** these ******* **** ****** exploitable *** ** *** others ***** **** **** to *** ***** ** release *******

**'* ***** ***** *** picking ***** *************. ** that *** * *********** downside ** ******* *** cost ********* *********? ***** commitment *** ********* ** software *********** (** ***** by ************ ****** ******** ** ***** to *** ********) ** ******** ** Western *** **********.

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Jon Dillabaugh

Pro Focus LLC | In reply to John Honovich | 05/24/18 12:42am

** *********, *** ** was * **** ******* to ****, *** * was * ***** ** that ** ****. * sold *** **** ******** to ** *******, ** who ** * ** judge *******. **** *** always **** **** ******* to ** ** * won’t **** *** **** the *****. *’* **** if ** **** ***** of **** **** ***** was **** **** ** hack, ** ***** **** chose ***********. ***** ***** was ** ************* **** cheap ******* **** ****** more *********** ** *******, I ***** ********** ** would ** ** ********** and ****. 

John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Jon Dillabaugh | 05/24/18 12:45am

*** ** ** ***'* happen ***** *** **** other ****** *************? * am ********* ******. ** that *** ****** ** Dahua ** ********* ******* now?

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Jon Dillabaugh

Pro Focus LLC | In reply to John Honovich | 05/24/18 12:48am

** ** ****** **** Dahua ** ****** ******** because ** ***** ******. Some ******* ** ****** systems ** ****. ** still **** *********, *** like *** *******, ** airgap **** **** *** internet *** ******** ********. 

Michael Miller

In reply to Jon Dillabaugh | 05/24/18 12:48am

*’* **** ** ** knew ***** ** **** that ***** *** **** easy ** ****, ** would **** ***** ***********.

*****'* **** *** ********* now? 

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Jon Dillabaugh

Pro Focus LLC | In reply to Michael Miller | 05/24/18 12:50am

*** ****** *** ***, but ** ***’* **** OEM ********, **** **** exception ** ** ****** where ******* ******* **** systems **** **** ***** expansion. 

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Sean Nelson

Nelly Security | In reply to Michael Miller | 05/24/18 01:43am

*** *** ******* ***** systems **** ********* ******** 100 ** * (** more) *********. *** ********* was ***** ** *** hacked **** ******. ***********, alot ** *** ******* were ********* ** ****** inexperienced ** ***** ********. Not ****** ******* *** their ******** **** ************* either. *** ***** ***** to **** ******** ******* of *** ************* ***** footprint. 

****, * *** **** your ******** ******* *** day ****. * ***** they **** * ******* product *** **** **** never **** **** ***** to ***** * ****** in *** ***** *** and **** ******. ****** cannot ******* *** ***** amounts ** ***** ***** and ****** **** **** the ***** *** ** perceived ***** **** *** are ****** ** *****. And **** **** *** most *** ******* ** well. ** **** ******** the *****.

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Kyle Folger

IPVMU Certified | In reply to Sean Nelson | 05/25/18 10:49pm

* ********* **** * cameras ********* ********* ** my *****. **** *** running ** * ******* VM **** ********. ******* is ** * ********. I **** **** ** DVR/NVR ********* ** ** house. * ***** **** excited ***** ********** **** and ***** ***** ******* them **********. **** *** painful ** ***. ** wife **** ****** ** the *** *** ********. I ****'* **** ** even **** *** *** to *** *** ***. Ease ** *** ** EVERYTHING. * **** * residential ******* **** **** 6 ******* *** ** works **** *** ** easy ** ******** *******. Avigilon ** **** ** use *** ** ** Spectrum. ** *** ******** the ***** ** ** should **** * **** time. * ****** ***'* have ** ***** **** Hikvision ** ***** *******, but *** ********* *** always ********* ** *** and *** ********** *** vastly ********* **** ****** at *** **** ****** using *** *******, ****** using *** ***. 

* **** ** ******* Nuvico * ***** *** and * ********* * few ** ****. **** weren't ** ********, *** they **** ***** **** better **** ***** *** Hikvision ** *** **** of ********* *****. *** files ** ****** **** smaller ***** **** *** SD **********.

* ***** ***** **** stand ***** ******* **** cost ****. *******, **** Dahua ****** ***** **** fans *** *** **** go *** ******* *******, the **** ** **** later. ***** ***** ******* are ********** ****** ** install, ***** **** ****** networking ********. ********* *** get **** ******* *** ease ** *** **** Ring *** **** ****. I ***'* ******** *** those *******, *** **** do **** ****. * know *'** ***** ** Wisenet ******** **** *** because * *** ****** it ** ********. 

Michael Miller

In reply to Jon Dillabaugh | 05/24/18 12:46am

* ***** **** ** because we *** * ******** which ** ********* ******** CORE ******** *** * 10 ****** ****** */* years ***.  ******* ******* was ****** ** **** it **** **** ** LTS ****** ******* *** custom **'* ****** ** *** for *** ********.  * explained to *** ******** **** their *+-****-*** ****** *** not *** *** *** been ******** ** *** latest ******** **** **** if **** ***** **** purchased the ******** *****.  ***** NVR *** **** **** trying ** **** *** obsolete the *** **** ********* it.   *** ***** ******* also *** ***** **** the "*** **** *** or *** **** *****" issue **** **** ** the ******** ****** ** have **** **** ** cameras *** ****'* **** to *** *** ****** NVR **** **** ****'* need ***** ***.  **** we *** **** ** usability ** *** ******.  Long ***** ***** ** are ****** **** ******* to *** ******** ******.  

Ty Mullen

COR Security, Inc. | 05/23/18 08:42pm

******* *** ***** ** quality ** *** **** drive ****. ******* ********* charge * ***** ******* for ****. **** ***** have ******* *** ***** is ******* ****** **** are *******. *** ******** you *** ****** **** to *******.

Undisclosed Integrator #1

In reply to Ty Mullen | 05/23/18 09:45pm

********* **** ***** **** WD ****** ******, ***** have **** ****** ** IPVM ** ** *** best ** *** ********

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Jon Dillabaugh

Pro Focus LLC | In reply to Ty Mullen | 05/23/18 10:26pm

* *****’* ***** **** to ** ****. *** of *** ***** *** Hikvision ***** * **** encountered **** ****** **** surveillance ******. **** ****, I ***** ***** ********* with ******* ********, *** to *** ******** **** markup ** ****** **** manufacturers ******. * *** always *** ****** **** cheaper ** *** **** market. 

Undisclosed End User #2

05/23/18 10:14pm

** *** ** ********** is *****, **** ** proprietary *** **********. ** want ***********, ** **** means *** **** ****** series ** *** *** other ************.  

Undisclosed Manufacturer #3

05/24/18 08:00am

********* ** ***** ** sell ***** ***-********* **** Milestone ********!?

**** ********* * ****** on * ********* *****, but ** ******* / price ****, ***.

Undisclosed Integrator #4

In reply to Undisclosed Manufacturer #3 | 05/24/18 10:13am

*** ** ********* *****?  If **, **’* ****** Milestone.

** ****, *************** ** ramping ** *** ************** Milestone.

Undisclosed Manufacturer #3

In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #4 | 05/24/18 10:26am

** *****, **** ******* based ******** *******.

John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Undisclosed Manufacturer #3 | 05/24/18 11:53am

********* *** **** ********* their ********** *** ******* 3rd ***** *****.*** **** ********:

*'** *** ********* *** ******* on *** ********* ***** appliances ** *** *****. Thanks.

Undisclosed Integrator #4

In reply to John Honovich | 05/24/18 12:44pm

***********. *** *** *** processor ** *** ***** unit *** * **** model **** ******* ************** that ****** ****** ** in ********.  *** ********** in *** ******* ***** the **-**** ** *********** the ****.  ********* ** pretty ********* ********* *** benefits **** **************.  **-**** V5 ** ******* *** Xeon ** **** ** ************ **** ** ****.

******* ** * ******* v5 ** **.  *** quite ** ******** *** of **** ******* *** still ** **************.

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Jon Dillabaugh

Pro Focus LLC | In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #4 | 05/24/18 12:56pm

*** **'*****....

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Francesc Tortras

05/24/18 03:07pm

***** *** **** ***** advantages ** ***** ** appliance:

  • ** **** ** ******* OS **************, *** ********* this ******* ** ****** hardware ******** ** **
  • ***** *** ********** **** don’t *** ** **** Windows ** *****, ** no ********* ** ****** and *** *** ** cyberattacks
  • **** ******** *******, ** fans, *** **** *****

 

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Jon Dillabaugh

Pro Focus LLC | In reply to Francesc Tortras | 05/24/18 03:16pm

*) ** ************** ****** limitations ** **. * want ** ** **** to ****** ** ** preferences.

*) **** ********** *** on * ***** *******. The **** **** * have ******* ****** ** not **********.

*) **** **** *** energy *** *** ** low *********** **********, ***** is ******* * ********. I ***** ****** **** the *********** **** ******* designs. ** * ***** get ****, **** ******.

Francesc Tortras

In reply to Jon Dillabaugh | 05/24/18 03:23pm

*) ****, ** * preference * ***'* ******* on ****

*) *'* *** ******* about ***** *******, ***** are **** ******* **** are ****** *** *** porpouse *** ****** ** designed

*)*** *** **** ***** ********** is ** *** *** a ******** *******. ** only *** *** *********** that ** ******.

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Sean Patton

IPVM | In reply to Francesc Tortras | 05/24/18 03:22pm

*** ***** ***** ** clearly ** ********* ** far ** ******* ***** time ** *********.

***** *'* **** ***** are **** ************* ******* on * ********** *********** OS, *********** *** ******** being **** *** ****, I ***** ** ******* if **** *****'* ******* some ****** ** *****, and ***** ******* *******. It **** ******'* **** sense ** ******* * completely *** ** ****** using **** ************ ** Linux. 

* ***'* *** *** an ********* ***** ******* any **** *********** **** similar ******** ************** *** load. ** ********, ***** COTS ******* ***** **** you **** ******* *** flexibility ** ***** *****, more ****** ********* ******** and ********** **** ** appliance **** *** ********/***** 4-5 ***** ***.

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Sean Nelson

Nelly Security | In reply to Sean Patton | 05/24/18 03:30pm

* ***'* *** *** an ********* ***** ******* any **** *********** **** similar ******** ************** *** load

******* * ***** *** easy ** *** **** a *** ****** *** more ***********. **** *** example * ** ******* POE ***. *** **** your *******, *** **** them **** ** ***. Done.

***, *** **** * big ****** *****', ***** probably ******** **** ***** than *** *** *** itself.  **** *** **** a ******** *** ****** which **** ** *** overall ****. * ***** if *** *** ***** a ****** ** * mini **, ***** *** possibility ** ***** *** I ***** *** *** guys *** ***** ****** like **** ** ***** systems.

*** ** **** ** real, * ***** ****** really ***** ***** *********** load ** *** ***** place.

Francesc Tortras

In reply to Sean Nelson | 05/24/18 03:36pm

*******, **** *********** ******* implies * **** ****** unit, ** *** ** dissipators

 

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Sean Patton

IPVM | In reply to Sean Nelson | 05/24/18 03:52pm

******* * ***** *** easy ** *** **** a *** ****** *** more ***********. **** *** example * ** ******* POE ***. *** **** your *******, *** **** them **** ** ***. Done.

***** ** ***'** *** a ** ******* *** hub ********* ****** **** NVR, *** ***** ** that **** ************ ********* than * ********** ******? Do **** ********* *** the **** ************ *** both *** ** ********* power ****** *** *** PoE ***? **** ***** save **** ****** **** I *******, *** ***** also ******* * ****** transformer. 

** ***** *** **** at ******* *** **** drives *** ******** **** versus ********** *** ***** show **** ** ***** servers **** ******* **-************* **** ***** *********. So ***'* *** ***** are * ****.

** ** *****, * PoE ****** ** * PoE ****** *** ***** should *** ** *********** draw *********** ******* *** that ** ******** ** standalone (****** *** ** using ************* **** ********* power **********).

*'* *** ***** ** say **** * **** that ** ***-**-*** ********* is *** **** *********, I **** ***'* ***** its ********** ***** ******* specifics.

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Sean Nelson

Nelly Security | In reply to Sean Patton | 05/24/18 04:02pm

***** ***? ** **** what **** *** ********** 16 ** *** ******* on?

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Sean Patton

IPVM | In reply to Sean Nelson | 05/24/18 05:11pm

**** ******** ** *** counterpoint ** *** "*** honkin *****'"

** ** *** ******* on ****, ** ****** you ******'* *** *** in **********. 

Undisclosed Manufacturer #6

In reply to Sean Nelson | 05/24/18 05:12pm

*** ********* *****, *** many **. **** ** what *********** *****... *** ability ** ****** *** hardware ** **** *** application (*****, **** ******, cost, ***). *** *** also *** *** *****. Tiny **'* ** ** cards *** ******* *********, mixed **** ****** *** larger *********.

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Sean Patton

IPVM | In reply to Sean Nelson | 05/24/18 06:03pm

**** ******* **** *** efficiency ****,******* ***** ***** ******** installing ** * ********* Pi.

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Sean Nelson

Nelly Security | In reply to Sean Patton | 05/24/18 06:14pm

*******! ****** **** * feasible ******** *** * 16 ******* *** ******!

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Sean Patton

IPVM | In reply to Sean Nelson | 05/24/18 06:18pm

*** **** ****** *********.

Undisclosed #5

In reply to Sean Nelson | 05/24/18 03:52pm

*** ** **** ** real, * ***** ****** really ***** ***** *********** load ** *** ***** place.

*****. ********** *** ********* consider *** **** **** energy **** ** * surveillance ******. *************, **'* probably * ***** ********** of ***** ******* ***********.

******* *** ******** ** a ****** *****'* *********** need ** **** **** energy **** ** ***, though *'* **** ** see ****** ******* ** compare. ** **** **'* really ****** **** ***** cost ******** (** *******, not ******** ** ******** security) ******** ********* ** * ****** of *********** ******.

** *** *** *** exact **** **** ** a ** ******* *** and ***, * ***'* think *** ******** ************ or ****** *********** ***** be ****** *********. ** would ****** * *** on******** *** ******** *** ******** ** some *** ********** ****** than ******, *** *** all **** ********* ** hardware *********** ********.

* *** ******* ** a ***-*********** ** ***** will *** * *** more ** ********* *** to ******** ******** *** drivers *******, *** *** make ** ***** **** an *** ** * server *** * *** is *** ********** ******* a Vespa *** ** **-*******.

Francesc Tortras

In reply to Undisclosed #5 | 05/24/18 03:58pm

****** ** **** **** use *** ***** *** 18-wheeler. ** **** *** person ** * **** a ***** **** ** the ****.

Undisclosed #5

In reply to Francesc Tortras | 05/24/18 04:36pm

** **** *** ****** on * **** * vespa **** ** *** best.

* ***'* ***** ** disagree ** ****, *** perhaps * ****'* **** my ***** **** ****. My ***** ** **** the ********* ** ******** requirements *** * ** channel *** *** * 16 ******* *** *** not *********** *********. ****'* suggestion **** *** **** a "*** ****** *****'" for * *** ** suggesting **** *** ******** requirements *** * *** are ************ *********.

*** ******** ********** ******* the *** ** ******** more **** * **** Ranger vs **** **** * Vespa ** **-*******.

*****, **** ** **** an ******** ***** ******* real *******. *** ***** are ********** **** **** and *** ******** *** to ******** ******** ************ including ******** ************, ****-***** motion *********, *** **************. Assuming *** ********** ******* are ***** ******* **********, I ***'* ***** *** energy *********** *** ******** requirements ***** ** ************ different.

Michael Miller

In reply to Undisclosed #5 | 05/24/18 05:02pm
  • ***** *** ********** **** don’t *** ** **** Windows ** *****, ** no ********* ** ****** andare *** **************

*** **** ***** *** last **** ** **** statement. 

 

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Sean Patton

IPVM | In reply to Michael Miller | 05/24/18 06:17pm

*** *** ******* ** be *********, ***** * minutes ** ******** ***** a******* ************* ** * FreeRTOS

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