Secure Boot Could Eliminate Botnets - But Manufacturers Ignore It

Author: Brian Karas, Published on Dec 29, 2016

Increased cyber attacks have motivated video surveillance manufacturers to begin to release hardening guides, instructing users on how to better secure devices from attack. These guidelines put the onus on the installer or user to secure devices connected to the internet, but manufacturers could take another approach that would secure devices from software exploits, even if an attacker had the admin password.

"Secure Boot" support would all but eliminate exploits like Mirai, and by extension would make it less profitable for attackers to target security devices. Secure Boot is even available in some chipsets already in cameras, so why do manufacturers not enable it? In this report we provide an overview of Secure Boot pros and cons.

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****** **** ******** * *********/*** **** ****** *******, ***** **** manufacturers ** ***** ********** **** ** ***** ******, ****** ********* for * ****** ********** **** ******** ** *****-*** *****. 

*** **** ***** ** ************** **** **** ********** *********** **** ****** ** implement ****** ****/***. **** *** ******* ******* ********* ****-****** ****, **** *** things **** ******** ***** *******, ** ******* *** ****** *********** - **** ****** **** ****** ********** ***** ******* ** *******-********* packages. ************ ** *** *** **** **** ** **** ********* to ******* ***** ***** **********, ** **** **** **** ****.

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* ****** ***** **** ***** **** *********** **** ** ***** secure ***** **** ******* ********* ** ***** ***** **** *** device, *** ******* **** ***** ** ****** ** ****/******* ********* code *** ****** ***** ** **** **** ********* **. ** unsecure ***********.

 

Comments (47)

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Marcelo Martinez

SATIS - Seguridad de Misión Crítica | 12/29/16 01:45pm

***% *****!

Itamar Kerbel

12/29/16 01:53pm

** *** ***** ****** **** ** **** *** *** ** protect * ******.

*'* *** **** *** * ***'* ***** *** ****** ****** could ** ********* **** ***. *** ******* *** **** ***** gained ****** ** *** ******* ***** ******* ******** *** *********.

* ***** *** ************* ***** **** ***** **** **** ** solve *** ****** **** **** ******* *** **** ** * camera *** **** **** ****** *** **** ************* *******.

** ***/**** ** *** ******* *** ***** ** *** ****** OS ** * ****** **** ********* ** ****** *** ******** a ****** **** *** ***** ***** *** ******* ******** ** how ** ** ** *** ***** * ***** *** ***** the ******.

**** ** ****** **** *** ***** *** ** ***** ****:*** ****** **** ***** ** ******* * *** **, *** What ** ***** *** *****

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Brian Karas

IPVM | In reply to Itamar Kerbel | 12/29/16 02:11pm

*'* *** **** *** * ***'* ***** *** ****** ****** could ** ********* **** ***. *** ******* *** **** ***** gained ****** ** *** ******* ***** ******* ******** *** *********.

****** -

***** (*** ********* *** ***** ******) **** *** ****** ** take **** * ******:

  1. **** **** ** *****-***** ****** ** * ****** (**** ***** be ***** * *****, **** ***** ***, ** ******* *** UI ************)
  2. ********/******* *** ****** ******* **** *** ** **** ** ****** remote ****** *******, *** ** *** ************ **** *** ****** might *** **** ** ******* (**** *** ******* ** ******/******* raw *******)

*** *** **** * ****** **** **** ****** ****** ** changing ******* ***********, *** ***** ***** ****** ** ***** ******* access, *** ***** *** ***** *****.

****** ****/*** ******* *** ****** **** ** *** *****, ** prevents ************ ******** **** *********. ** **** ** ******* ****** access ** **** ******, **** ***** *** **** *** *** botnet ********.

***** ***** *** **** ** ****** ** *** ***** *** security ****** **** *********.

***** #* ** ****** ** *** ***** ** *** ****/********* to *******, ************* *** **** ** ** **** ** *** sense ** ********* ****** *********, *** ***** **** ***** **** trade **** ** ********* ******* *****, ***.

***** #* ****** ** ***** *** ******* ** *** ************, they *** ********* * ****** ********* *********** **** ***** ******* devices **** *** ****** **********. ** **** ***** ** ******* against ***** ******** **** *** ** *****, ******* ***** **** a *** ** **** ***** ******, *** ** *** ****** do **** **** **** **** *****, ** ***** *** ****** less ******** *** *** **** **** ***** ** ***** ********* (though **** ***** ***** **** * **** ** *** *** discovered *******).

Undisclosed Distributor #1

12/29/16 03:51pm

**** ***** ** * ********* ******** ** *********** ********. ***** are * *** ***** ** ***** ** ** *** ******* world ******. #* - **** ** *** **'* *** ************ are **** ***** ******* *** ****** ** ** **** ************* that **** **** ***'* **** *** ** ****** ***** ****. This ** *** * **** ** ** ********/********* **** **** to *** **** ** **** ********* *******, **** **** *** using ****** **** *** **** ******* ** ******* ***** **** the ************* ****'* **** *** ** ****** ****** ** **** didn't **** **. #* - "****** ********* *** * ****** additional **** ******** ** *****-*** *****" **** ****** ** **** immediately. ***** ********* *** ***** ********** **** *** ** **** every *****, **** ****** ** ** ******** **** **** ******** the **** ** ***.

** (*** ************* **** *** **** ** * ***** ******** reference ****) ***** **** ***** *******, *** ************* *** ************* care **** ***** **** ******* ***** ****** ***** *** ** it *** ** **** **** ******* ***** *** ******** ******** then ** ** **. **** **** ****** ** ************ **** these ******* ***** **** ** ************* **** ** *** ** bad ***** *** **** **'* **** ** ******.

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Brian Karas

IPVM | In reply to Undisclosed Distributor #1 | 12/29/16 04:18pm

#* - **** ** *** **'* *** ************ *** **** being ******* *** ****** ** ** **** ************* **** **** just ***'* **** *** ** ****** ***** ****.

#* - "****** ********* *** * ****** ********** **** ******** to *****-*** *****" **** ****** ** **** ***********. ***** ********* are ***** ********** **** *** ** **** ***** *****, **** refuse ** ** ******** **** **** ******** *** **** ** all.

*** ******** *******, * ***** *** ****** ************* **** *** solely ******* ** **** ** ** **** **** ****** ****. No ****** *** *** ****** ** ******** **, ******** ** expensive (******** ** ***** ******* ** **** ********). *** * think ***** *** ***** *************, *** ********* *** ****** ******, who ** ***** *** ******** *** ** ************* *** **** the ********* ** ********* ****, *** ****/****** ** ** * way **** ********* *** *******.

** ******** ****** * **** **** ******** **** ****** ***** cyber ******** ****** *** ***** ** ******** ** ** * big ******* ** ****. * ************ **** *********** ****** ****, and *** * ****** *** ****** ******* (******** ****** ** discover *** ****** **********) ***** **** * *********** **** ** promoting ********** ** *** "**** ******" ********, ********** * ****** price *** *************** ********** **** ******.

Undisclosed Distributor #1

12/29/16 04:27pm

* ***% ***** **** *** ** ****. ************* **** ** the "********" ******** ***** **** **** ***** *** ******** *** easiest ******** ** **** **** * ****/***** ******** ** **** can *** ***** ***** *** ********* ***** **** **** *** customer ***** ***** **** **** ** *** ******* $** ******. The **** ************************* *** ** ***** ********* *** ******* **** **** *** best ******** ********, *** **** ***** **** *** ** *** current **********, ******* ***** ** **** **, *** **** ******** just ***** ***** *** ***** ***** ***** ***** **** ***** manufacturers **** *****. ***** *** *** ********, ****'* **** *** best **** ** *** ******** ** *'* **** **** ** you *** **** ********* ****.

Itamar Kerbel

12/29/16 06:05pm

** **** * ****** **** ** * ***** ** ***************** company.

**** *** ********* *** **** ****** ** *** ********.

** ******* **** ****** *******. **** *** **** ** ** saying **** *** ******** ***** **** *** *** ******* ******* cameras.

** ******* **** ******** ** *** *** ******** ******* (**) offer ********* **** ************* ******* *** ****** *** *** ***.

**** *** **** ** ** ***** * *** **** ****** that ** ** *** ***** **** ** (******) ** ****** they **** ** ********....

***** *****....

Undisclosed End User #2

12/29/16 07:20pm

*********** *****, *** * ***** ****'* **** **** "**** **** of *** ******** (***/**** **** *******) ******* ** **** **** of *** ***** ** ******** (****** ****** */* ***************)".

John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Undisclosed End User #2 | 12/29/16 07:26pm

#*, ***** ****** **** **** ******* ******* ******** *************?

Undisclosed End User #2

In reply to John Honovich | 12/29/16 07:30pm

***'* ***** **, ***** **** *** ********** *** ******* "******** application ** *** ***********".

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Brian Karas

IPVM | In reply to Undisclosed End User #2 | 12/29/16 07:42pm

******, ****** **** ***** *** ******* *** **** **** **** offered ***-********* ******** **** ******* ****-**** ****** ** *******. ** would ******** ***** **** ******* *** ****** ****** ***** ** with **** ******, ******* *** *** ********* ** ******** *** camera ** * **** *** ***** ********* ********.

** ** **** ***** ********** **** ** ***** **** *** Axis *******, * **** ***** *** ** ***% **** **** an ******** *** *** ****** *** **********, ** ** ***** things **** ***** ***** **** ** *** **** **** * camera/device ***** ** ******* ******** *** **** *********. ****** **** would ******* **** ****** ********** (* ******** ** **** *** full ********** **** ** ***** ** ********) **** ******* ******** would ***** *** ******** ******* *** ****** ** ***** ********* were ***** ** * ******** ********* ******.

Undisclosed End User #2

12/29/16 08:24pm

****'* ****, **'* ******** ** ****** *** **** ****** **** to ***** **** **** ***** ****** **** ********* ** *** flash *** **** **** ****, ******* *** ** **** *********. (That's *** ***, ***** **** **** *** **** ** *******)

**** ** ***** ** *** **** "****** ****", ** ********** is **** ** ******* ***** "********" ******* ** *** *** device, *** ****'* ******* ***** **** ** **** ****. *'* thinking ** *** *** *********** ***/**** "******* ***** ************". ***** be *********** ** **** *** **** ***** ****.

*******, **** ********* *** **, *** **** ****** **** **** be ******** ** **** *****, ** * ***'* *** **** as *** *****.

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Joshua Hendricks

Milestone Systems | 12/30/16 04:46am

* ***** ** ***** *** * *** ***** *** ********** this ********** *** **** ********* ** ********** *******-***** *********.

******** *** ** *** **** ***** *** *** **** ***** presence ** **** ****, ***** ***** ** **** *** **** to **-****** *** ****** ** **** ******* ******* *** ******* or ******* ******** *** **** (***** ******** ***'* **** ****** to *****/***** *** ****).

*** **** ******** ** ****** ******* ** *** ******* **** level ** *********, *** * ******* **'* **** **** ** accomplish * ******* ***** ********* ** ** *** ****** ******* physical ******. ****** ** ****** *** **** ******** ******* *** updates **** *** **.

** *'* *** ***** (*'* **** ******* **% ****), **** there ***** ** ****** ** ** ***** ** ************ ****** boot **** ****** ** *** ******** ***** ** ******* *** there ********* *****.

*******, ** * **** ******** ********* *** * ********** ** other **** ******** *******, * ***** ****** ** *** ***-******* devices ** ** ***** *********** ******* ******* ***'* ** ******** persistent *******. * ******* ****** *** ***'* *** ********* ******** and *********** *** *** ** * ********* ************** **** *** "script ******" ***** ******* ****.

** *'* ***** *** *** ********* **** ** *** ** somehow ***** ** *** ** *****(*), **** **** *** ******* to *** ***** ** *** ********** ***** ********** *** ********* check, **** **** ***** ** * ********* *** ** **** down *** *******. * ***** **** ***** ** ****** ***-******* though.

** *** ** *****, *'* **** ***** *** *** **** ability ** **** ******* "********" **** *********** ******* ******* **** this ** ******* ******** ****** ******* **** ***** *********. ***** probably *** **** ******* *****. ** ***** **** *********** *** linux ** ******* **** **** ****** ** * ********* ** keys ***** ** *** **** ***.

** ************* **** ** ** ****, **** *** **** **** to ********** ****** **** ********* ***** ** ** ****** ***** the ******* *** **** *** ************ ** *** *** **** your ********** ****, ** ** ******** * **** ** *** manufacturers *********** ******** ******** *** ****** **** ********* ******** ******* the ************* ********/*********.

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Joshua Hendricks

Milestone Systems | In reply to Joshua Hendricks | 12/30/16 05:10am

*** ***** ****** **** ***** ***** *********** ** ******* ******* by ********* **** ************ **** **** *** ***** ***** **********, even ** ****** ** * *****/******* ****, ***** **** ** be ******* *** ***** **** ** ******** **** *** ************ cert *** ******. **** ***** ***** ******* ******* ***** *** private *** ** ***********, *** *********** **** ** ** ***** warning ****** *** *** ************ (** *** ***** *********** ** audited *** ***** ***** ** **** **** ******, *** *** want ** ****** **** ***********).

Undisclosed #3

In reply to Joshua Hendricks | 12/30/16 06:35am

******** *** ** *** **** ***** *** *** **** ***** presence ** **** ****, ***** ***** ** **** *** **** to **-****** *** ****** ** **** ******* ******* *** ******* or ******* ******** *** **** (***** ******** ***'* **** ****** to *****/***** *** ****).

**** ** *** ***, ** *** **** **********?

*** **** ******** ** ****** ******* ** *** ******* **** level ** *********, *** * ******* **'* **** **** ** accomplish * ******* ***** ********* ** ** *** ****** ******* physical ******. ****** ** ****** *** **** ******** ******* *** updates **** *** **.

********** * ******* ** ****** **** *** *** ** ** root, **** ***** ****** ** ****** ******.

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Joshua Hendricks

Milestone Systems | In reply to Undisclosed #3 | 12/30/16 11:17am

*********** * ***** **'* *** **** *** *** **** **** is ******** *** ** ****. ** ******** ******* ******* ***** exclusively **** *** ******* * **********, ** *******. **'* **** bootloader's ***, **** **** **** **** ***** *** ****/**** ***** (GRUB, *****, ***).

** *** **** "**********" ******** ********* ******* *** **/*** ***** and *** *** *****?

*** ********, * *** ******** **** ***** ****** **** ********, and * *** *** ***** *** **** ** **** ** accomplish ******** ** ******** ****. ** *** ******* ***** ** to **** ***** ****** ******* *** ****, *** ******* ***** be ** ******** ******* ** **********/******** *******.

* ***** ****** ** ***, ** **** ******* ********** ****** to **** *** ****** *** ******* ******* ********** ** *** kernel ** *** ** *****?

Undisclosed Integrator #4

In reply to Joshua Hendricks | 12/30/16 03:31pm

*** ***** ******, ** *****, *** ** *** ******** **** UEFI, ***** ***** ******* **** ** ** ****** ** ***** secure ****. ****** ******* ***** **** **** **** ** ** signed, ** **** ******* ******.***********. **** ***** ****** *********.

Undisclosed #3

In reply to Joshua Hendricks | 12/30/16 05:48pm

** *** **** "**********" ******** ********* ******* *** **/*** ***** and *** *** *****?

*** ******, *** ** **** ** * *** **** **** a **********, ****'* *** * *** ****** ** ******* **** you ******** ** "** *** **** *****".

Undisclosed Integrator #4

12/30/16 03:23pm

"*** ** ************* *** ****** **?" ******** *********** *** ****** that ***** ** ******** *** ****. ****** ***********, *******, *** even ****** *******? ****, ****'* ******* ****-*********. *** *********? ** Linux, ** *****, ****'* ***** * ***** *** **** **** just ********* ** ** "*******".

***:*****://****.******.***/****/**********************************

**** **'* ********* ***** **** "*** **** ***** ** ************** come **** ********** *********** **** ****** ** ********* ****** ****/***. This *** ******* ******* ********* ****-****** ****", *** ***** *'* just ***** ********, *** *** ******* **** ***** ********.

********** *****, ** ***** ***** ***** *** **** **** **** run **** ****** **** ** ***** *****? ********* *******.

Undisclosed Integrator #4

In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #4 | 12/30/16 03:40pm

** ****, **** ****** **** ***'* * ***-*** (** ******* ever *** **):

*****://***.*******.***/*****?*=***********

****://***.******.****/*****/********-***********.***

****://***.******.***/****/**/**/******-****-******-********/

***** ************ ** *** **** *****, ****, *** *** ********* stands. * ** ***** **** ******** ****** ************* **** ** keep ** **** *** ***/***** ****, *** *'* *** ******* that ****'** **** **** **--********** ** *** ****** ** * race ** *** ******.

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Brian Karas

IPVM | In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #4 | 12/30/16 06:21pm

***** *'* **** ***** ********, *** *** ******* **** ***** flippant.

*****, * ********** *** ********. *** ******* *** ** ***** to ****** **** * ***** ** * ****** ******** **** people ***** **** **** ******** ***** ****** ********* *********** *******, "if **'* ********, *** ****'* ************* ***** **?" *** ******, of ****** ** ******* ** ** *** **** ** ****** as ******* ********* **, *** **** **** *** **** ** should *** ** ********** ** ****** ** ********* ***** ******** issues.

*** ******* ** **** **** *** ** **** **** ********* to ********* **** ** ****** *******, *** **** *** **** does *** **** ** **** ****** ** *** **** ** integrator.

***, ***** ** ****** ******** ** ****** ******* **** ******, and ***** ************* *** ******* ******* ****** **** **** ****** security. ****** **** *** ****** ************ ******* *****, ** ******* degrees, ** *** ** *****.*******, ** *** *******, ***** ******* *** ******* ******** **** what ** **** *** *** *** ********* ** **** *******.

*** ********* ******* ** ******** ****** ** ******* ** ******** devices, ***** *** ********* ** *** **** ** **** **** actual ***** ********** ********** ******** ************. **** *** ********** ****** for ****, ** ***** ******* **** ******* *** ***** ****, but ***** *** * **** **** ***** **** ** *** broader ************ ****.

********** *****, ** ***** ***** ***** *** **** **** **** run **** ****** **** ** ***** *****?

*** ********** ******, *** **** ** ***** ** **** ****** to **** *********** ******* ****** **** *****'* ****-******* ************ (*** example), *** ******** *******. ** ** ******** *** * **** to **** *** ******-**** ************ ** ******* ****, ******* ***** are **** *** **** **** *** ***-***** *** *****. *** an ******** ****** ***** ** *** ** **** *** ************-****** code, ** *** **** ***** (****** ****, ****** ******, ***.) was *** ***********.

Undisclosed Integrator #4

In reply to Brian Karas | 12/30/16 07:01pm

** *** **** ** *******, **** ***** *************. *** ******* **** *********, ******, ** **** *** "*****" are ***** *** **** ****** ****** ****** *** **** ***** (default ***********, ********). ** **** *****, **** ** *** ****** access/control ***'* **** ** ** **** ********** ******* ** ****** boot ** **., *** ****** ** ***** *****.

** **** **** *****, ****'* ***** *** **** *********** ****** in ************ **** ************ ***** **, ** **** ** ** concern **** *** ********. ************* *** "********" ****** **** *** userspace **** ******* ************ ** *** **** *** **** *'* "ignoring" *** ****** ** ****** * *****.

Undisclosed End User #2

In reply to Brian Karas | 12/31/16 08:59pm

**'* ****** **** ** ***** ** *** *****, **** ***** outside ** *** ***.

> *** ** ******** ****** ***** ** *** ** **** run ************-****** ****,
> ** *** **** ***** (****** ****, ****** ******, ***.) was *** ***********.

*** ***** ** ********* **** ****/******/*****/***.. *******?

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Joshua Hendricks

Milestone Systems | In reply to Undisclosed End User #2 | 01/01/17 04:12am

******* *** ******** *** ******, *** **** ******* ***** ** executed ***** * ******* **** ******* **** ******/*****/*** (***** ** another **** ** ******).

** ******** **** *** ****** ** **** ******** ** ****, the *** ** *********** ******* ***** ** *********.

** ***** ********** ** * *********, *** * ****** *** to *********. * ****** ** *** **** ** *** ****** could ** ****** ** *** ****** ******** **** ********* ** security? **** *** ** ********** *** ******* ******* *** ********* (for ******* *******), ******* **** ***** ******* ** ** ********?

Undisclosed #3

In reply to Joshua Hendricks | 01/01/17 04:37am

* ****** ** *** **** ** *** ****** ***** ** slowed ** *** ****** ******** **** ********* ** ********?

**** ** *** *** ** *** *** *******/**** *********, ******** will ** ** ******** * ****** ** ** **** ** demanded.

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Joshua Hendricks

Milestone Systems | In reply to Undisclosed #3 | 01/01/17 05:07am

**** *****. ****'* *** *** ******* ***** *** **** **** effective *******. ***** ******* **** ***** ***** ** ******* ******* and ********* *** ******** **** ** ** **** ******.

Undisclosed #3

In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #4 | 12/30/16 06:41pm

...** ***** ***** ***** *** **** **** **** *** **** signed **** ** ***** *****?

***

Undisclosed Integrator #4

In reply to Undisclosed #3 | 12/30/16 06:52pm

**! ** **** ******* **** * ********** ******. *** **** is * **** ******* **** **** **** ******** ** * core *******, ******** *** ***** *****.

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Paul Curran

01/03/17 06:41pm

****'* **** ** *** ******** ****** ***** ******** **** ** people ******* *********** *** ******** ** **** **** ***** ******** and *********. ** **** ****** **** ****** **** ***** ****? Would *** **** *** ***** ******* (***** ** ******** *** at ***** **** ** * ****** **********) ** *** ********** key *** ****** ****?

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Brian Karas

IPVM | In reply to Paul Curran | 01/04/17 02:33am

**** -

**** ****** **** *** ******** ***** ********* ** *********. *******, any ********** *** (*************) ** ******, *** **** ***** ** would ** **** *** **** **** ****** **** ******** ***** be ****** ********.

*****, ** **** *** ******, ** ******** ***** ***** ******* account ***********, *** **** ***** ******** ** *** ********, *** would ** **** ******* ** **** **** ***** ** **** that ****, ** **** ***** *** ****/*** ********** ********, **** could **** ******** **** *** ************ *** ******* ***** **** the ********.

*** ********** **** *** *** ** *** ************, *** *** not ********* ********** ** ************ ** *** *** ****, ** it ** *** **** ** ***** ********* ** ****** **** that.

**** ** *** ********** **** * ****** **** ************** ** that *** ************* *** ******** ****** ** **** ****** **** secure. **** ***** ****** (*********) *** ** ******* *** *** effort ** ************ ****** ****, *** **** ***** ****** **** (or ***** ** ****** ******** ****** ********), *** **** ** technically ********.

* ** *** **** ** ***** **** ****** **** ** a ***% *** *** ****** **** *****, *** ** ***** go * **** *** ** ****** ******* **** ***********, *** making *** ***** ******** **** ********, ** **** ** ******* more *****/********** ** ***** (*** *** ***** **** ****, **** still ** *** **** * **** ***** ******** ;) ).

Undisclosed #3

In reply to Brian Karas | 01/04/17 02:50am

*** ********** **** *** *** ** *** ************, *** *** not ********* ********** ** ************ ** *** *** ****...

***** **** *** ****** *** *** *** ** ******* *** firmware ** *** *** *** ************'* ****** ***?

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Brian Karas

IPVM | In reply to Undisclosed #3 | 01/04/17 02:59am

** ** * *** ******* ** *** ************, *** ** is *** "******". ******* ** *** *** **********/********** ***** (**, worked, ***** *** *** **** **** ****** ******* ***** ***).

Undisclosed #3

In reply to Brian Karas | 01/04/17 04:19am

**, *** ***** *** *** ** ******* *** ******** ** in *** ******** ******?

** * ***?

Undisclosed #5

In reply to Brian Karas | 01/04/17 04:46am

*****,

*** **** ***

************ **** ******* **** ******* ****** ***

*** ******* **** ******* **** ******* ******* ***

*****?

Undisclosed #3

In reply to Undisclosed #5 | 01/04/17 08:42am

************ **** ******* **** ******* ****** *** *** ******* **** decrypt **** ******* ******* ***

***, *** **** ****** ***** *** *** ************'* ****** *** to ******* ***** *** ***** ********, ***** ***** ** ******** by *** ******, ***** ** **** ** *** ****** ** avoid **** ******-****.

Undisclosed Integrator #4

In reply to Undisclosed #3 | 01/04/17 01:39pm

*****'* **** ********* ***** ** ****. ****** **** *** **** use*******, *** **********, ** ****** **** *** ******, *******, ***. have *** **** ********. **-**** ********** ** **** **** ** an ******** ********* ****** **********. (*****, *** ** ** ********* on "***" ******* *** *** ******** ****.) *** ***'** ******* into ******-********* *******, ******** ************, *** ***** *** *****. *'* be ******* ** **** **** ******* ******** **** **** ****** how **** ***** ****** *****.

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Brian Karas

IPVM | In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #4 | 01/04/17 02:02pm

*** *** *******, *** ******* ******** ********** *** ******** *** authenticity *** ****** **** ** * "******" ****** **** **************. However, ** ***** **** ** ****** *** *** ******** **** itself ** ** ********* ** **** ** ****** ** ****** extracted *** *******-**********.

*** ***** ** ************ *** *** **** ** ******** *******, where *** ******** ** ********* *********** ** * ******** ***** (OS, ******** *******, ***.), *** *** *** *** ******** ** environment ***** ***** *** ***** ** ** ******* ****** ********/************ on ***** ***.

Undisclosed #3

In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #4 | 01/04/17 03:52pm

****** **** *** **** *** *******, *** **********...

*** ******* **** **********.

** *** **** **'* *** **** *******, ****** * *** is ********* ** *** ****** ** * ***** ***** **** be ***********.

Undisclosed Integrator #4

01/04/17 04:06pm

*** ******* **** **********.

****, ******** ********, *** ****** ******* ********* **** *** **** encrypt **, ***** ** *** ***** * *** ******. *** yes, *** ** **** * **** ** *****, *** ***** are *** ****** **** ******* **** **** ******* ** *** a **** **** ****:

****://***.****.***/*****/*******/*****/*********/****%*****%*******%*************%***%***%****%**(***).***

****://***.****.***/*****/*******/*****/*********/****%*******%*******%*******%**-%*******%****%*******%********************.***

*****://***.****.***/*******-****/***********/*******/************-********-*****-*****-*******-********-******-***-*****

(****: **** ****'* **** ** *** *******-** ******* *** **** reason, ******'* ****)

Undisclosed #3

In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #4 | 01/04/17 04:31pm

...*** ****** ******* ********* **** *** **** ******* **, ***** is *** ***** * *** ******.

** ***** *** **** **** ** ************ *** ******** *** **** *** **** ********** ** ************ that ******* ***. **** ** * ********, *** *'* *** sure ***** ** * ****** ***** ******* **** *** ***** yet.

Undisclosed Integrator #4

In reply to Undisclosed #3 | 01/04/17 05:39pm

...*** **** ********** ** ************ **** ******* ***...

**** *** ****** ******** ********** **** ********* * ********* ******** only **** *** ****** *** ** ******* ** *** ******. Attackers *** **** ******* *** ******** *** **** ****--**** ****'* going ** ** **** ** *** **** ** *** ****** without ****** *** ******* ***, ** ******** ****** ** *** device (** **** ****).

Undisclosed #3

In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #4 | 01/04/17 06:00pm

********* *** **** ******* *** ******** *** **** ****, **** aren't ***** ** ** **** ** *** ****...

**** **** ** ******* **, **** ** **** ***'* *** it. **'* *** **** **** *** *************** ** *** "******" version.

Undisclosed End User #2

In reply to Undisclosed #3 | 01/04/17 06:31pm

*****, *** ** *** ****** *** *** *** ****** ***/** encrypted, *********** *** **** **** *** *** *** ** *** it - *** *** *******.

***** ** *** ******* ***** "**** **** ** *** ******** (can/have **** *******) ******* ** **** **** ** *** ***** of ******** (****** ****** */* ***************)".

************ ****** **** (***** **** ******* ****) ***** *** *********** that ****** ** ***** ***** *** ******, *** ****** **** researcher *** ****** *********** *** **** **** *** ******** *****.

**** *** ****** **** ** ************* ********, *** *** * totally ***** **** **** ******** ****** ***** ** *** *** down ** ******* **** *** *** ************ ******* ****.

*** *** ******* ** **** ** **** **** **** **** some ******** ***** ***** ********* **** ** ********* *** **** to ******* ****.

Undisclosed Integrator #4

In reply to Undisclosed #3 | 01/04/17 06:33pm

** **** ** ** **'** ********** ****? *** ******* *** about ****** ****. ** ******** *** ***** ****** ****, **** one ******* ********** **** ******* **** *** ****** ******** ** do **** ********** ** *** ********. ** ** ******** **** to ******* *********** ******** *** **** ********-*********** ***************, **'** **** to *** ***** * *** **** ***** *** ********** ** extending *** ***** ** ***** ** ********* ********.

***** **** **'** ***** ** *******.

Undisclosed End User #2

In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #4 | 01/17/17 11:02pm

********* **

Undisclosed End User #2

01/04/17 06:36pm

***, * ******** **** *** ****

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Brian Karas

IPVM | 01/16/17 01:43pm

**** ** *** ** ***** ******** ** ******** *******, *********'* ****** ******** ********* **** ******* **** *** ****** ******* ******** *** ************** on *** *******. ** ** ** *********** **** *** ****** interested ** ***** ******.

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