When you're governed by individuals as inexperienced and shiftless as those at IDIS America, you not only waste money on tradeshows, you exchange emails internally demanding that employees vote for IDIS any time they apppear on a list such as this.
Take a look at the 'Awards' section. Any awards which are 2013+, IDIS has garnered as the result of their own employees' voting. Fact-check how these awards are given, 'DR-6116P ranked top in Benchmark Magazine test', for example, and you will find not only that this award is altogether meaningless, but also that Benchmark Magazine allows anonymous cookie-based voting. Want to vote again? Just erase cookies and try again!
We don’t ask our people to manipulate any voting system, but do ask to share this with our customers and partners regardless of the outcome. We will Fact-check this for you! By asking those organizations to open their voting information.
If they are willing to do so, hopefully they will be as transparent as we are, we will prove you wrong or we will publicly apologize for this.
Innovation nominations given by various independent 3th parties are based on testing, comparing and benchmarking our technologies and products. And we are proud to have received them in the past and hopefully in the future.
We also know, as you all, that when sponsoring an event, exhibition or even when having an advertisement deal with off- and online marketing agencies, your name, product and innovations will be exposed more dominant then others. We all, you and I play that game.
Manufacturers that have significant market share and are widely used and competed with (Axis and Hikvision are the big two in this category for video).
Smaller companies that we gaining significant ground (e.g., LTS in the past few years).
Companies that have some disruptive tactic that many people are aware of (e.g., Longse and their crazy global spam campaign).
IDIS does not really fit into any of those categories - their revenue growth shows that they have extremely limited uptake, they don't have significant market share (especially with their own branded products), the technical claims are roughly similar to others (their notable 'differentiators' are modest, like DirectIP or better fisheye panoramic dewarping) and their only somewhat newsworthy tactic is buying huge booths, which is not enough to justify testing.
I'm sorry to hear this. your arguments for doing the testing of products and/or covering brands based on above is a solid foundation. But i don't recognize IDIS in your comment given.
Technical differential is huge !, When only looking at specifications sure you will see a lot of common factors, but when looking under the hood you soon will notice big differences in comparison to our competitors. I hope I can persuade you in the future to experience this yourself.
If you take the marketshare as a factor we should be on your wish list, globally we are the larger Korean manufacturer and rank (ok if you believe the ranking list) outranking various other manufacturers tested here. but ok, you'r right if you look at the domestic market of the US. In the US our OEM marketshare is still significant larger then our branded presents for now.
Gaining ground, when considering that in 2013 we started the taking the IDIS brand to the global market and within these 5 years, globally outperforming our OEM's, with a compleet new product line to minimize the negative effect on our OEM partners a much a possible ? i find that a achievement as is. But will respect your view on this matter.
Disruptive tactics are indeed not within our companies DNA, but perhaps we should ! Seems that the aggressive, don't care and just do methods are having some effect !
In regards to our massive booths.....Yes you a right ! Smaller is much more effective then what we have done so far. Doing other events, different forms of promotion with the same budget would have been the better way into the US market, like we have done this year.
Let me say first I appreciate and respect that you are willing to engage in a thoughtful manner on a post that we have been critical of your company.
If the technical differential is huge, what is it specifically? You reasonably should be able to express in words and then we can evaluate (1) how significant they potentially are and (2) if they are really significant, that we should test.
As said, we are a Korean manufacturer, all our products, with the exception of some camera mounting accessories and small size monitors we develop and manufacture all product in house. Our R&D team is one of the best, but most stubborn in the world, that’s my personal note.
And let me explain myself, nothing will pass the Alpha development before the can guarantee all specification summarized by our researchers, domestic sales & product managers and partners around the globe. So, when we state that a unit has a specific performance you can be guarantee that’s it will do this with ease. In a way, we guarantee the performance specified. If there is any doubt there is no way our products will be released to the market. Not branded and not OEM.
To be more specific on a product level, without any doubt I state that our NVR is the best in the world. The components used are without any compromise, if what we want doesn’t exits we develop it on our own, from FPGA to software its done in house. The performance of our manufacturing is fully automated so that every product leaving the production line is 100% the same, even if that wasn’t more than enough they also need to pass physical inspection protocols before shipping out to a partner. DOA’s are at SIG6. 1:100.000.
The easy and philosophy behind our products will always be the ease of use, technical performance and outstanding reliability for the next decade. The DirectIP protocol is so much more than just plug and play, it’s also responsible for a secure network environment and performance balanced to guarantee all streams / communication without external interference. A “zero” worry environment build to last.
Camera performance is maximized, utilizing 4 streams per camera that independently are managed by our NVR or VMS platform, 3 streams for live and/or remote viewing, one for recording as an example, all is real-time (always) but can be modified by our partner/end-user to their needs. We are a video company and not a foto …so always’s we go for the maximal specification within our systems.
Next monade i'll provide you with all the technical details (what i can open to the public) and hope that you will be tempted to start testing our products (even if you don't publish the outcome)
Yes it would actually be interesting , in my previous company we used IDIS products actually, the price was quite higher and not reasonable to the features presented, also we had trouble in interfacing their systems with other as they seemed to have a policy to present their own unique solution in whole with no integration with other 3rd party, .... well it would be really great to test their system as you said to see were are they going on their solutions !
More generally, I don't understand the point of running it in so many different countries. Surely there are some regional differences but I am not sure it makes sense to pick most outstanding security manufacturer for Italy, Ireland, Iceland, etc.
Part of the rationale, though for different countries is that they are also picking Outstanding 'security manager' and 'installer' etc., though again going to be really hard to pick there as it's a fairly subjective process unless you want to go by straight financial metrics.
How many on this list or the one in the past actually "manufacturers" its goods? Seems these days there should be a class for those that simply re-brand others products..We have drifted away from the true definition of being a manufacturer.
I have played with their equipment. It seemed solid and more functional than some of the other stuff out there at the time. and frankly, those other brands havent made much progress since then. I have not played with IDIS equipment lately, but I would like to see a test. Im not willing to risk my business on it as I wouldnt want to buy from a manufacturer with less revenue than my integration company without some really compelling reasons to do so. They do seem to have (or believe they have) a genuinely different approach. I do miss the days when there were a bunch of korean manufacturers that you could count on to be a step above the average chinese equipment.
John, I just had a security company submit a bid through one of our SWISS manufacturers who is spec-ing a shop-in-shop. The cameras seem a little expensive, I would like to see a test on one against AXIS, Hanwah (or Samsung), or even the Chinese people that I try not to use... They say nothing but sunshine and even if you tested one camera I would know how to classify them in the field......