Cut Install Time 50% Claims Magdaddy

Author: Ari Erenthal, Published on Nov 21, 2016

Modern commercial buildings frequently use open web steel joists that makes running cabling very challenging. Cables need to be run near to but not touching the joist and supported at regular intervals, which can be costly and time consuming.

One supplier, Magdaddy, says they have a solution for this with that reduced time and cost by using neodymium magnetized cable management products.

In this note, we review the issues involved, MagDaddy's offering, potential benefits and tradeoffs.

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Comments (35)

Eddie Perry

11/21/16 03:39pm

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**** ******.....

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Ari Erenthal

In reply to Eddie Perry | 11/21/16 04:02pm

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Eddie Perry

In reply to Ari Erenthal | 11/21/16 04:44pm

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**** ***** ***** ********* ****** ****** *** *********** ** ****** they ***** ** ******** **** **** ***** ***** **** *** using **** ** **** *******.

** ***** ** * ***** ***** *** * ***** ** more ** * ******* ****** *** ******* **** ** ********

Undisclosed #1

In reply to Eddie Perry | 11/21/16 04:55pm

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Conclusion

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Eddie Perry

In reply to Undisclosed #1 | 11/21/16 07:23pm

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Undisclosed #1

In reply to Eddie Perry | 11/21/16 10:39pm

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Jeffrey Kintzler

In reply to Eddie Perry | 11/22/16 01:11pm

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Undisclosed #1

11/21/16 04:42pm

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Ari Erenthal

In reply to Undisclosed #1 | 11/21/16 05:02pm

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Ross Vanderklok

IPVMU Certified | In reply to Ari Erenthal | 11/21/16 05:38pm

** **** ** *** ***** ***** **** ** **** **** are ***** ***** *** *** ****? ******'* ***** ** ***?

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Ari Erenthal

In reply to Ross Vanderklok | 11/21/16 05:43pm

***'* ****. * ***** * *** ******* ** *** ** it ***** ****** **** ** * ****** ** ******. * didn't ***** ***** *** ********** ******* ** *** *** ************* it ***** *****.

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Jeffrey Kintzler

In reply to Ross Vanderklok | 11/21/16 09:33pm

*** ***** **** ***.

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Jeffrey Kintzler

In reply to Ross Vanderklok | 11/22/16 01:14pm

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Ari Erenthal

In reply to Jeffrey Kintzler | 11/22/16 02:23pm

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Jeffrey Kintzler

In reply to Undisclosed #1 | 11/22/16 01:12pm

** **** **** ** **# *** **** ** ******* ** lower **** *** *******.

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Scott Bradford

IPVMU Certified | 11/21/16 07:06pm

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Jeffrey Kintzler

In reply to Scott Bradford | 11/22/16 01:16pm

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Undisclosed #1

11/21/16 07:11pm

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* ***'* ***** **, *** * *** **** ***** ** interesting...

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Jeffrey Kintzler

In reply to Undisclosed #1 | 11/22/16 01:32pm

** **** **** ******* *** * ******* ** ** ********* on *** *******. ** *** ***** ** ** *********@***********.***

*** ****** ** **** **** **** ******** ** * ***** surface *** ******** **** ** ********* ****** *** ***** ***. What **** ******* ** *** *****/***** ** ***** ******** ****** the ***** *** ***** ********* *** ******** ** *** ******. When *** ***** *** ** *** ******** ********* ** *** same ******** *** *-* **** **** *** ********* **** ** move *** **** ** *** ** ******* ***** ******** **** a ***** ****** ******.

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Jeffrey Kintzler

11/21/16 09:24pm

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*****'* ******* ** **** **** ** *** ********* ****** **** the * **** ********. *** ***** ** **** **** ** business *** * ****** **** *** *****, ** **** ***** had **** *********. **** ** ** **** ** * ******* that **** **** ************ **** ** *****.

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Eddie Perry

In reply to Jeffrey Kintzler | 11/25/16 01:23am

**** ** ***** **** * ******* ** ***** ** ***** on *** ****. **** **** **** * ******* ******* **** clamps **** **** *** ***** *** * *** *** ***** them ** * *** ** ** **** ******* * *** of **** ****** * ***** ********.

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Jeffrey Kintzler

11/22/16 01:56pm

** ********* ********** **** ** *** ******** ********* *** ** listed *** ****** *****.

******* ********* ******** ***** *********** *** **** *******. ********* ******* have ********* ******* ** *'* *** ****** **** **** *****. They *** ********* **** ** ***** ** ****. *** ********* temperatures *** ** -** ******* ** *** *******.

***, **** ** *** **** *** ** *** **** ******** at ***** ***** **** **** ********* **** **** ** *** temps **** ** ****. *** ******* ***** ** *** ******* is *** *******.

** **** *** ******** ******* ******, *** ** **** **** change ****** *****. ** **** **** *** ******* ** *** you *** *** **** **********. ** **** *** ** *** products ***%.

Undisclosed #1

In reply to Jeffrey Kintzler | 11/22/16 03:08pm

******* ********* ******** ***** *********** *** **** *******. ********* ******* have ********* ******* ** *'* *** ****** **** **** *****. They *** ********* **** ** ***** ** ****.

** '*** *******' ********* *** ******* ***, ** ****** **** been '*** ******* *'.

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Jeffrey Kintzler

In reply to Undisclosed #1 | 11/22/16 03:18pm

** ****'* *******.

Undisclosed Integrator #2

11/22/16 09:08pm

* *** ***** ** *** **** *** ******* **** ** AHJ ***** ***. *** **** **** *** ***** ***** **** enforcement ** ** ***** *** **** *** * *** **** not ** *** **** **!

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Ari Erenthal

In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #2 | 11/22/16 09:27pm

*** *** *** * ****** ** * **** ********?

Undisclosed Integrator #2

In reply to Ari Erenthal | 11/22/16 09:43pm

****, **** "**, ** ** ********* **** **". ****'* **** how ** ** ****. ******* **, ** **** ********* **** where *** *** ******* ***** ******* ** *** *********, **** overbuilt ****** ** *** *********. *** ********** **** *** ***** and *** ***** ***.

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Jeffrey Kintzler

11/22/16 09:19pm

** **** ***** **** ** ****** ***** *****. ** ** a ***** **** *** ********* ** *** ** ****. ****** union * ******. *** ****.

** ***** ** ***** ** ****** ********. *** *** **** him * ******? ** ****** ****** ** ****** ** **** reason. *** **** **** *** ***? ** ***** ** * reason ******* ** *** ******** *** ********** ** ***** *** products. *** *** **** **** **** **** ** ****** *** Plenum *****? *** ***** **% ** *** ******* *** *** approve *** ***** *** *************. ** **** *** ********** ** not *** *** **** ** *** ******** ***** *** ********. If ** ***** * ****** ** **** * ***** ** happy ** ******* ** ** ***.

**** ** ** ******* ** **** **.

Undisclosed Integrator #2

In reply to Jeffrey Kintzler | 11/22/16 09:39pm

**** ** ** ******* **. * **** ****** *** **** the ******* *** ****** ****** ** **** *********** **** **** you ** *** **** *** ******** **** *** ********* "*****'* like". *'** **** *** ** ********* **** ** ******* ***** zip *** ** * ******** (***** **** ***) *** ******* them **** ****** ****. ** ***** ** *** **** *** before ***** ******** **** *****'* **** ******. * ***** *** another ********* *** ** **** **** *** **** ** ***.

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Ari Erenthal

In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #2 | 11/22/16 09:42pm

*'** **** *** ** ********* **** ** ******* ***** *** tie ** * ******** (***** **** ***) *** ******* **** with ****** ****.

**********.

Undisclosed Integrator #2

In reply to Ari Erenthal | 11/22/16 09:55pm

***, *** ******* **** ** ****** *** *** **** *** replace **** **** ****** ***** ****.......** * ***-****** *******. ******* fun ***** **** ** ** *** *** *** ****** **** an *** ***** *** *** *** *********** *** **** ****** system *** ************ ** *** ** ** **** *** **** ** ***** it ** ** **** ** **** **** ***** *** *** start **** **** * ********* ******* ******.

Moe Levine

11/23/16 05:29pm

* **** ***** ******** ****** ***** ******** ** * ***, it *** ***** *** ********* ******* *** ***** ** * huge *********, *** * ****'* **** *********** ******* ** ******* something **** ********* ** * ********* ****** ** *** ******. But ****'** ***** *** ********* ******* *** *****. ****'** **** very ********* **** ********* ** ***** ******.

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Jeffrey Kintzler

In reply to Moe Levine | 11/28/16 08:21pm

***,

*** **** ** ****** ** ***** ** ** ****. **** you ****** ******** ** **** *** *********, ***** ** ***, right *** ** *** ***. **** ** ****** ***** ****** $1.80.

**** ********** *** ***** *** **** ***** ** ******** ** the ***** ********* ** **** ***** *** *** ***** ************. Of ****** **** *** *** *** ***** *** *** **** it ** *** *** **** **% -**% ** *****.

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Scott Bradford

IPVMU Certified | 12/01/16 04:04pm

********** ******, *** ***** *** **** ******* ** * **** of ***** *****. **** **** ***** ** **** ** ******* different ********.

***** *** ****, *** **** ****, ** **** ******. * even ***** ******* ** ** *** **** ** * ********* in * ******** **** *** ***** **** ********* ********* ** do. **, ****'* * **** *****. **** ****, * *** see ** ** * **** ***** ** *** ***** ************

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Ari Erenthal

05/01/17 04:04pm

******:******** * ***** *** *** ** ****** ** ********** ******* under ****/** ****.

*** **** ** *** **** ** *** ***, *** ****** / ********* ****** ************ ********.

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