JCI Sues Genetec For Patent Infringement

By Joey Walter, Published Jul 13, 2020, 09:55am EDT

Surprisingly, security giant JCI has sued their partner, security software developer Genetec, for patent infringement.

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Inside this note, we:

  • Share the court complaint
  • Examine JCI's claims
  • Share response from Genetec and JCI
  • Compare to JCI's lawsuit against Wyze
  • Analyze risks involved for both sides

Complaint *****

** **** *, ****, JCI, ***** *** '***********' business, ***** **** ** Delaware**** * **-**** *********:

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** ****, *********** *** acquired ** ****(*** ****** *** ***** acquired ** ***).

Complaint ********

*** **** ** ***** on ******* ***** ** Sensormatic ** **** (** Raymond ************) *** ** 2013 (******* *********, **** ** ********** Business *********** ** ***). The ********* ********:

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*** ********* **** ****** Sensormatic's ******* ** ****** video ************ / ****** control *******:

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Violations *******

*** ** **. ***** that ******* ** ********* 2 ** ***** *******:

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Object ******** *** *********

*** ***** ****** ***** is *** ****"****** *** ********* *** object ******** *** *********", Patent ****** *,***,***.

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*******'* ********** ******** ***** Analytics ************** **************** **** ******** ****** detection *** ****** *******.

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*********** ******'* **** ***** is:

Moving ******* ** *** ***** ** **** ** *** ****** ***** ****** *** ********. These ******* *** ******** ** **** *** ** ********. This is determined either by comparison of the detected object against predetermined *************** ** ******* of interest or by manual user selection. [emphasis added]

** *** *********, *** makes * **** ** how ***** ******'* ****** map ** **** ******* is *****, ******** ****:

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********, "**********" ********* ** central ** ****** #*,***,***'* method – ** "**********" determine **** ****** ** detected, ********* ******** ***** alerts:

*** ****** ** ***** 1 ******* **** ****** detection ********* ** ******** from *** ***** ********** of*****,********,********,************, *******. [******** *****]

*********** ***** ************ ** KiwiVision's *** ** ****** parameters ** *********** *******, or ******* ** ***'* own ****** ********* ******:

********** ** ********** ** importing ****** ******** ** accessing *** ********** *** more ********* *************.The ********** *** ********** **** ************* ******, **** ** ******* ***** *** ******** ** ******* ********* **** *** ********.

****** ****** ******** ** access *** ********** *** more ********* *************. [******** added]

Elevator ****** *******

*** ***** ****** ***** is *** ****"****** ******* ****** *** override ******** ******* *** method ********", ****** ****** 9,463,954.

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*******'* *********** **************** **************** **** ******* ******** traffic ** *** ********.

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*** ******'* **** ***** is:

A ****** *** ****** *** ** ****** ******* ****** *** ** ******** ****** that overrides landing matrices that define *** ****** ** *** ****** ** *** ******** ******. The system overrides the landing matrices of the access control system in response to conditions defined by security system operators, such as emergency situations, and sends the landing matrices to elevator controllers for controlling the access to the floors. [emphasis added]

** *** *********, *** makes * **** ** how **** ******'* ****** map ** **** ******* is *****, ******** ****:

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JCI ** *******

*** ******** ** *******, as ** ****** ****** ongoing **********.

Genetec **** "********"

*******'* ******** ** ************ Property****-**** *********** ** **** *********:

******* ******** ** *** respects *** ********* ** the ****** ******. ** actively ***** ******* ****** trolls **** ** *** own *** ** *********** with ***** ********** ********* (including *** ***********) ** uphold ************ ******** ******.

******* *** *** * long *** ******** ********** relationship **** ************’ *********, Johnson ********, ** ***** patent ************ *********** **** as ********* ** * surprise.

** ******* ******* ** work ** **** *****, and *** ** ******* for *** ************ **** Johnson ********, ** *** of ****** ****** *** matter **** ********* *** reviewing *** ******* ** detail. ** **** **** moving ******* **** **** point, **** ********* ** this *******, **** ** can *** **** ****** and *************** **** *********** to ******* *** ******.

*** ******* **** *** priority ** ******* ** matters **** ** ***** is ** ******* *** protect ******* *** ** ensure ******** **** ** the *********** *** **** outcome.

******* ** ** *** choice ***** *** ******* is ********** ***** *** security ************* ********* (~$*** million ****** *******) *** has ***** * ********** to ***** *** **** they ******* ** ***** even ** ** ***** profits (*.*.******** ***** *******).

Another *** ****** *******

*** ** ********* *** ****-******* ******* Wyze**** * *******, *******, these *** ********* **** the ******* ******** ** the ******* *******.

*** **** *********** ****** cited ** *** **** lawsuit ** *** ****"******** ***** ************ ****** and ****** **** ****** viewing", ****** ****** *,***,***.

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** **** ************ *** ***** **** at ***, *** **** ******** to *** ** *** counter ******** **** ***'* patents *** ******* *** that *** ****** *** Wyze.

Strategy *** ***?

***** **** *** ** doing **** ** *** unique, ** ** ****** atypical. ****** ** ****** manufacturers *** ****** *** patent ************. **** ** more ******* *** '******', aka "***-********** ********". *** ********* has *** *** ******* video *** ****** ******* businesses (*.*., *****, *********, Software *****, ***.). *** closest ********** ***** ** Avigilon's ****** ***********, ***** was ****** ************* *** never ******** ** ***** any ***********.

****** **** **** ***********, JCI ** **** ************ and ********** ** **** they *** *******, **** are *** ****** ***** a ***** *** * business ******* ** **** larger ******** ********.

**** **** ** *********** to *** ** ** or **** *** **** sue **** ********* ** these * ******** *** at ***** ******** ** an ********** **** *** is ******* ** ************ enforce *** *******.

Key ******

******** ********** ** *** suit ******* *******:

*****, *** *********** ********* patent ** ****** ******** so **** ** *** patent's ******** ** *** challenged, *********** **** **** to ******** * ***** that *******'* ******** ******** violates ***********'* ******** ******.

********, ******* *** * history ** ****** ****** on ****** (*.*., *****) despite *** **** ** losing ***** ** ***** so. ** ****,******** ** ******** *** may **** **** *** the *** ** *****, increasing *** **** *****.

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******** ******* *** *** most ********* ** ******. In **** *****, ** comes **** ** *** well *** ****** *** written.

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******* * ***** ** two ***** ****'* ******* protocol *** ****** ******** for *********** ********, **** makes ** *****. ******** that ********** ** ******* has ** ** *** same *****.

* ***'* *** *** suing ****, *******/*** (*** all *** ********), ******, et.al, *** ** ***** very *** ** *** Compass ******** ***** ** violating *** "******" ** precisely *** **** ***....... Why ***? 🤔

***'* **** **....******** ******* are ****** *** 🐮💩, especially ** **** ********. They *** ******-******* ** law-school ******** ** ******* City *** ********** ***'* know *** ** *** Google ** **** ***** art: ******* *** * patent ** "************ ** unformatted ********** **** **** ethernet", *** ******* ** "sharing ***** **** ****** multiple **********"....**** ****** **** had ***** ***** ** prior *** ******* ******.

**** ***** *** *** JCI, ******* ** ******** that ** *** ***'* win ** *** ******, you *** ** *** courtroom. ** ** ****** bad ******* ******* ** not ***** ** **** roll ****, *** *** certainly ******** * *****. Hand ** *** ******* 🍿....this ** ***** ** be *** ** *****.

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* ****** **** *** is ********* ** *** out ** ****. * can ******* **** *** doesn't ****** **** **** Genetec, ** *****'* *** much **** *****. *******, Genetec ***'* ******** *** a *** ** ***** that ***** ** ********* to ***, ** * don't *** **** ** a '***' *** ***. If **** ****, **** their ****** ******* ****** weaker ** *** ******.

* ****** ** **** is *** ***** ** a ****** ******** *** JCI? **** *** ******* lawsuit ****** ***** ******** product ******* ** *** year.

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* ****** ** **** is *** ***** ** a ****** ******** *** JCI?

**** *** ** ******* too, *** * ***** have ******* **** ***** start **** *******/****** ********* first.

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* ***** **** ******* they ***** ***** **** smaller/easier ********* *****.

** **** **** ****** disclosure ** *** **** sued. **'* ******** *** has ******* *** ** other ********* ** ****. Related, ** *** / Sensormatic / ***. *** contacted **** ******* ***** patent ********* ****** *** us ****.

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*** *** **** ******* is ***** *** **** - ****'** **** ******* than *** ** ***** aspect (*******, *********, ***** counsel, ***...)

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** *** ***** ******* as "***** *** ****" or *** ********* ** those *****, **** *'* pretty **** **** *** doesn't **** *** ********* damn **** *** ******* is ** **** **** are *****......***** ***** ** 100% *** *** *** course *** *** ** a *****.

******* *** *** ** as *** ** ***, but * **** ****** confident **** ****'** **** of * *** ** piss *** ******* *** are ******** ** *** down ******* * ***** regardless ** *** **** fight ** ******* (***: prior ****** ******* *********).

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***'* ****** **** ******* is ********* ***** ** the *** *** ******* the *******. **'* ** engineer, *** ** ***** writes **** *** ***. He's * ***** ****, and ** **** ****** guitar **** ***** *****. The **** **** ** HikVision *** *** - Hik ** ******* ******, and ******* ** *******. This ** *** ****, and *** **** *** made *** ************ *******. My *** **** **** he ***** ** ******* to ***** * ** 9 ****** ** *** personal ****** ** ****** who ***** *** ** hurt *** ****.

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****** ** * *********** guy. *** **** * can *** *** ******** for * ********* **** he ******* **. *'** enjoyed *** **** *'** spent **** ***.

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*** - ******* ******** has * ******* ********* of ******* *********, ** least ***** ******** *********. I **** **** ******* customers, *** *** * can *** ** **** the ******* ****** *** change *** ******* ***** and *** ****** ***** relationship ** *** ******** fashion.

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***** *** **** ******* may ** * ********** complaint, *'* *** ***** so **** **** * understand *** *** ****** one ** * ********** complaint.

*****, *** ***** ** point *** *** ********** in *** ******* -- CompassPlus ** *** *********** dispatch ******** *** ****, and ** *** ********** with ******* ** *** way. *******, ******* **** have * ****-** *** the *********** *******.

** *** ** ******** suggesting **** **** ** writing * ****-** ** another ************'* *********** ******** platform, **** *** ********* this ******, **** **** is * *** ***** to ** -- *** just *** *** ************ of **** ******, *** for *** ************ ** the ******* ** "***********" as * *****. ******* has **** * ***** leader **** ** ***** to ******** *** * library ** ****-***/************ (** collaborating *** ******** ************* for **** * ******* to ** *****), ** the **** **** **** could ** ********* *** that ** ***** *** me ** *******. ***** by *** ****** ** the *** **'* * violation, *** *'* ** curious ** **** *** history ** ****** ****** like **** **** ***'* deal **** *** ****-** platform *** ******* **** deal **** * "*********". Could ** * **** interesting **** ** ******* depending ** ******* **** kind ** ***** *** been ********* ******.

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***** *** **** ******* may ** * ********** complaint, *'* *** ***** so **** **** * understand *** *** ****** one ** * ********** complaint.

* ** ********, **** its **********.

**** ** *********** *********** patent ****** **** *** different **** ****** ******* of "********* ****** ***** object ******** *********** **** user *****" ** ****.

** ** ** ****** of *** ******* ********* to ******* * ****** video ******** ****** *** use ** **** *********.

** ** ** ****** of *** ******* ********* to ******* * ****** for ********* ****** *** collection ** ****** ***** data ** *******.

** ** ** ****** of *** ******* ********* to ******* * ****** for ********* ****** ***** object ******** *********** **** user *****.

* ***** **** ** see **** ******* ***** claims ******* ***** ***.

** ** *** *** something ****?

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*****, * ****** **** been **** ***** --

*** **** ************** **********, *** * offer ** ******* ** whether ** ** ** not. * ****'* **** closely ****** ** ********** whether ** *** ** or ***, ** **** one ******* ** ** an "** *** *****" type ** ****** ***** that ***** ***** *** actual ********* ** *** processes *** ********* ****** each ** ***** ************.

*** ********* ** ** post *** **** ** convey **** ** **** issue/concern ** ****** *** second ***** **** ***********, because ****'**** * ******* ********-- **** *** *********** challenging *************** ***** * ****** infringement. ***** *'* **** that ******** *** **** litigated ** **** ***** in *** ****, **** is *** ********* *'** ever ********** ** * possibility. ** * ************ can ** **** (*** ultimately **** ******) *** simply ******* ** *********** between ***** ******* *** another ******* ** *** market, ****'* ***** * concerning ********* *** *** industry.

********* **** ** ******** amicably *** ******* *** fault ***** *****. *** last ***** ** ****** all **** ** *** integrations ** ** ******** and ********* ** *** away **** ************ *** fear ** ********.

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*** **** **** *** quarterly ******* ** ************.

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********* ******* ** ************.

***** **** *** ** driven ** **** **** of ********* ****, **** type ** ****** ********* won't **** **** ** the ***** **** (*.*. quarterly *******). **** *** already **** **** ** in ********** *** **** time *** ******* ********* has *** ********* ** do ** ** ****.

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*** ******* ********** ***** be ********'* ****** ***********, which *** ****** ************* and ***** ******** ** suing *** ***********.

****** ***** ** ****:

**** / ******** ***** Battle *****

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***** ********* *** *******. I'm *** ********* ** JCI. ******* ** ****** to ******* ** ****** a ****** *******, **** resort ** *********** ********* behavior, ******* *** *********.

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*** ****** ***** **** JCI ***** *********** ******** elevator ******* ** ** interesting ***. * **** a **** ** ***** manufacturers **** ********* **** the **** *********** *** have *** ******* ** limit ****** ** ******* floors *** ********* ***** on ***** ****** *****.

**** ** *********** ** see **** ***** ** these ******.

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* ***** * **** about "*** ***** *** like ** ***?" ******* to *** ***** ******* is.

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*** ***** *** **** to ***?

********* ;)

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**** ** * **** example ** * ********* misalignment ******* *** ********** patent ****** *** ******** or ***** ***** ************.

*** ********* ** * mechanical **** *** **** massive ******* ** **** to *** *******. ******* a ************ ********* **** has * ************* ***** barrier ** *******. * patent *** ******* *** hardware ******** **** **** over ****** ** **** a ***** **** ****** want ** ****.

********, ** *** ***** hand, *** **** **** the **** ** *** first **** ***** ********* above:

"Moving ******* ** *** ***** ** **** ** *** ****** ***** ****** *** ********. These ******* *** ******** ** **** *** ** ********. This is determined either by comparison of the detected object against predetermined *************** ** ******* of interest or by manual user selection. [emphasis added]"

*'* **** ** ****** inspection *****'* *********** ** the ***** ** **** patent, *** * ****** reading ******** **** *********** could ***** ** *** rights ** *** ************** of ********* ****** ** a ******'* ***** ** view. **** ********* ***** a ****** ** *****, not ****'* ** ************ permutations, *** ******* *** same ********** *** *********** as ** ***** *** Swan ** ******'* ***** successful ******** *****.

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**** *****. **** *** a ******* ***** **** ObjectVideo/Avigilon ****** *** ******** and ********. ** *** so ******* *** ***** that ** *** **** damage **** ****, *********** ****, ******** ******** Patent ********

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*********** **** ** **** you ***** *** **** patent *** **** ** one ***** ******** *** 20-30 ***** ** **** in *** ******* ****** field ***** ****** *********** algorithms ** *** ****** and ***** *** **** deployed. * *** ***** of ******** ***** ** used ** ******** *********** Systems ****** **** ** as ***** ** **** (for ******* *** ** located * ******* ***** for ******* **********). * didn't ****** ** **** the ******, ** **** is * **** *********** reflex.

*** ******** (** ******** nations) **** **** ** this **** ******, *** example **** ***** ** how ******* ********* *****. Did * **** ********* here?

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* *** ***** ** numerous ***** ** **** at ******** *********** ******* dating **** ** ** early ** ****

** ************* **** ********* patent ***** **** *** years ** **** ******* tend ** *** ****** without * ******* ****** of *** ******** ********** with *** ************* **** they *** ***** ** challenged *** ***********, *.*.,*** ***********'* ******* ***** to ** ***********?,**** ****, ******** ******** Patent ********

********* *** ******** ** that *** *** **** of ******* **** *** not ******** ****** *** cause * *** ** problems **** *** **** when ********* *** ** enforce **** (** / Avigilon, *.*.).

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******* ******** ****, ***** part ** *** *******. What * *** ******** out *** **** * know ** *** ***** art ** **** **** and **** **** ** others *** ***. ** 1990 ****** *** ** the ******* ********* ********** were ** ****, ****'* changed ** *** ******** in **** **** * variety ** ******* *** improvements ** ***** *** resolution. ** **** ******** a ****** *** ***** facial *********** ****** ** the ***-****'* (***** ** work ** ******** *******, which ** **** *** still ****** ** *** top ** *** **** tests). **** ***** ********* to ** ********** **** and *** **** ** all ****** ** *** machine *** **** ******** approaches **** ** ******** 35 ***** ***. ******* and ********* ******** **** repeat, **** ** ******, plus *'*** ** **** chose.

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* ***** * *** of ** ***** ***** down ** *** **** officers ** ***** *** their ******** ** *** specifics ** *** *****. If ** *** ** a ***** ***** ******* a ****** *********** ** in *** ***** ******* claims ** ***** *** (especially **** **** ****** the *** ******** ** socially ******** *** ***** days) **'* ***** ******** that *** ***** ****** legitimate *** *****.

** ******* ****, * think, ** **** ****, but **** **** **** may ***** ** * lack ** **********-****** ************* sunk ***** ** *** imagination ** *** ******* or ********* ****** * software ******.

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**** ** *** **** work **** *** ***** approves. * ***'* **** if *** ****** *********** included *** ********** ** prior ***, *** ** anyone **** *** * child, ** ******'* ** needed. ****, * ***** you *** **** * of ** ****, ****** being ****** ************ (********* are ********** ****), *** this ** ** ****** performed ** *** **********, with ** ******** ******** gain.*********** - ****** ** swinging ** * ***** - ****** *******

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*** *** ***** ******: Doesn't *****, ****** *** others ** *** **** thing ** **** ** their ****-******* ************? **** patent *****'* **** ******** to ***** ************, *** not ** ***** ***** industries ** ****.

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******* ******** **** ** JCI. **** **** **** major ********* **** **** have **** ******* ******** into; ******** ** ******* worth **** ****....

** ****** ** **** JCI ***** "**** ******** Accounts" ** **** *** / **** ******** ******** solutions. ** *** ***** are ***** **** ** drive * ***** ******* Genetec *** ******** ******** sales ****.

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* ****'* ******* ***** your ****** ***** ******. Just ** *******, *** you ****** **** ******* JCI ***** **** ***** to **** **** ***** they *** ************* ********* the ************ **** *******? In * *** ******* Genetec ** **** ***** business **** ***** ***** force?

* ***** ***** **** there ***** ** ****** ways ** ********** ****, and *** **** *** legal *******. ****** ****** them ** ** ******* vendor. ** *** **** there **** ** ** more ******** ***** * specific ****.

** ***** * *** of * ***** ** me, *** ** ** an *********** ******.

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*** ***** **** ***** to **** **** ***** they *** ************* ********* the ************ **** *******? In * *** ******* Genetec ** **** ***** business **** ***** ***** force?

***, ****'* ** ******. The ***** ** * stretch *** ******* ** not * **** ******. Genetec *** **** ********** and * ****** **-***** legal ****. ** ****** JCI ********** **** **** Tyco ******** ******** ***** so **** ******* ******** and ********.

* ***'* **** ***** numbers *** ** **** National ******** **** $*** or $*** **** ******* and $*** ** $*** more *** **-***** ***** I ***** *** ******* would ***. ***** ****** thinking *** **'* *** best ********** **** * can **** ** ****.

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*** ** ****** ***** to **** ** **** on ******* ********, *** our *********** ***** ****** of *** ******** ********. I *** **** * high ****** ** ********** that ****** **** **** Genetec ** *** ***** creating * ***** (*** then *****, * ***** not **** *** ****). It ***** ******** ********* that *** ********* ** the ******* ********, *** that ***** ** ********* bad *** ********. * personally ** *** ** board **** *** **** that '******* ****' ****** be *** ****, ****** match *** *********** ** the ***********.

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*** **** ********......****.

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** *** ***** *** using **** ** ***** a ***** ******* ******* and ******** ******** ***** team.

* **** ** **** what *** ** ***** here *** ** ***** is *** ********: *** is ** *** **** they **** ** **** that ******* **** ** JCI ** * ****** partner ** *******.

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* **** *** ***. And **** ** ** bigger **** * *********** use *******. ***? ****** software, **** **********, ****** tech *******, ****** ******, and * **** ***** people (*******) **** **** our ***** ************ ***. I **** **** ******* quality ** ****, *** also ************, *** * just ****** ***'* **** the ***** ************ ***. So **'* * ** brainer *** **.

* ***** **** ** why * **** ** JCI ** **** * could **** ******** * want. ** **** ****** to ******, **** **** begin *** ******* ** me **-********** ** ****** with ***. * ****** doubt *** **** ***** pressuring *** *********** ** what **** ***/****** **** unless *** ******* ** federally ****** **** *****.

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***% ****** ** *******. And ***** ********** ** Tyco **** ***** *** to *** *** ****.

*** *** **** ******** at **** ****** *** that *** ****** ** the ******* ************* **** plus *** **-**** ****** on *** *********** **** adds ** ** **** $$$ *** ***. **** you **** ******* *** only **** *** **-**** mark-up. *** ****** ******** but ** ****** ** the ***.

** **** **** **** for **** ******** ******** you *** ****** ******* you *** **** *******.

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******. ***** **** ** any ******* *** * job ** **, *** in ***** ******** ***** when ******* *** **** hit ****, *** ***** part ** *** ******* has ** **** ***** worth ***.

******* ****** ******* ** upcharging ******** **** *** da-lusstra **** *******.

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** **** ****** ** go ** **** ** this, *** ****** ******** will ********** ******* **** a *********, ********, ********* and ****** ******* ***** about "*********** *******" *** "modifications" ***. * *** gonna ** * ******. But * *** ** mother's ******* ** ********. So * *** **** Video ************ *******.

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