JCI Sues Wyze

By John Honovich, Published Aug 21, 2019, 08:51am EDT

The mega manufacturer / integrator JCI has sued the fast-growing $20 camera Seattle startup Wyze.

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Inside this note:

  • Share the court complaint
  • Examine JCI's claims
  • Explain why JCI is suing a startup
  • Examine the risk for Wyze

For background on Wyze, see: Wyze Explosive Growth Consumer IP Camera Market, Surging Wyze Raises $20 Million and Wyze AI Analytics Tested.

Complaint *****

** ****** **, ****, JCI, ***** *** '***********' business,***** **** ** ******** with * **-**** *********:

JCI / *********** / ******** ********

*** **** ** ***** on ******* ******** ** Smartvue (****************** ******, *** *******). ** 2018,******** *** ******** ** JCI / ****, ****** *********** / legally **** ** ***** part ** **********, * company **** (*** ****** was ***** ******** ** JCI) *********** ** ****. *** ********* ********:

Violations *******

*** ** **. ***** that **** ** ********* 7 ** ***** *******:

*** ***** *** **** fundamental ****** ***** ** the ****"******** ***** ************ ****** and ****** **** ****** viewing", ****** ****** *,***,***.

**** ***** * ******** surveillance ****** **** ****** viewing.

**** ******'* **** ***** is:

* ****** *** ****** viewing ** ****** ** a ************ ****** ****** communication ******* ** ***** one ******** ***** ******* device ***(*) *** * corresponding ******* ***** ******** (DIR) ** ******* ***, together ******* * **** system

** *** *********, *** makes * **** ** how **** ******'* ****** map ** **** **** is *****, ******** ****:

**** **** ******* * reference ** **** *** sensors ******** **** **** infringes ** *** ******** claims:

Why *** * *******

*** ******* ****** ** that *** ******** **** is ********** ** ***** patent. *** *** / Sensormatic / **** **** not **** * ******* of ***** *** ****** infringement **** *** ****** of ** ***** *******.

*** **** ***** ****** wonder *** * ~*-****-*** company ***** ** ***** the **** ** ****** to ***.

*******, **** ** ******* extremely ******* *** **** are ** * **** to ****** *** ** the *******, ** *** biggest, ** ******, ******** IP ****** ************* ** the ****** ******. *** example, **** ******* ** ship * ******* ***** from ******* **** ** October ****. ********,** ****** ******* **** 2 ******* ****** ** Wyze ************** ** *** **** year ** ****** **, 2019.

****'* ******* * ******* cameras, ***** ***** ******** weight ** ~*/* *****.

*** **** ** ***** low ~$** ***** ******, that ******** ** $** - $*** ******* **** revenue. ***** ****** ***** naturally **** ** **********, Wyze ***** **** ** a ~$*** ******* ****** revenue *******.

No ***** ***********

*** ****** ** **** JCI's ********* ******* ** prior ****** *** *********** was ***** ** ****, as *** ******* ***** states:

**** **** ** **** seen ** ******* ***** patent ***** **** *** years ** **** *** norm ** ** *** to ********* / ****** out ** ***** *****.

Risk *** ****

*** ******* **** *** Wyze ** *** *** royalties ***** ****** ***** business ***** ***** *******. Selling ******* ** *** ~$20 *****, ** ***** own *********, ****** **** to ******* ** **** smaller ******* **** ************ manufacturers. * ************ $* patent ******* *** * manufacturer ******* $*** ******* is *** * *********** impact *** *** * $20 ****** ********, ** could **. ********, ***** the ***** ***** ** units **** ** *******, the ********* ****** *** JCI ***** ** ********, though, ***** ***'* *****-******* scale, ** ***** ***** not ** ******** ******* for ****.

** *** **** *****, Wyze **** *** **** to ******** ** **** with * ******* **** a ******** *********** **** has *** ***** ***** and ***** ** **** litigation **** *** ** costly *** *********** *** a ****-******* *******.

** *** ***** ****, Wyze *** ****** *** this ** *********** **** they **** ******* *** become ***** *** **** and ********* ** ***** incumbents ** *** *****.

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John Tran

08/21/19 01:13pm

*****'* **** ***** ** every **** ********** ******?

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John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to John Tran | 08/21/19 01:21pm

**** ********. *************, ** might. **** *** *** more? * ***’* ****.

** ******, * **** question ** ******* *** Smartvue ***** ************ ******** is ***** ********** ** what ******* ********* **.

***** ** **** *** risk **** **** ** others **** ** *** future *** ** ********** the ****** *** **** costs * **** ****** of ***** ** ***.

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Undisclosed Integrator #1

08/21/19 01:52pm

***** *** ****** **** / **** ***....

* *** ******* ******* on ******** ** **** with ****** ****** *** wireless *******. ** ***** the ****** ** ****** out? :*

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John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #1 | 08/21/19 02:01pm

*** ****** ***** ***** is **** ****.

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Undisclosed #5

In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #1 | 08/21/19 11:25pm

**** **** **** ******* AWS? ******** ***** *** AWS ************, ** ** Amazon ****?

* ***** ** ***** here *** * ******* the **** *** *** = ** ******* ** all? *** *** **** opt *** ******** *** cloud ******* *** ********?

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Undisclosed Integrator #2

08/21/19 04:07pm

*** ******** ***** ** be ****** ***. ******** cameras *** ** ******, it’s “****** ******” ***. They’d **** ** *** hik *** ***** *** more. ***** **** * shake **** ******* ** that ****** *** **** in **** ***** **** sued ****** **** ******** cameras.

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John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #2 | 08/21/19 04:14pm

“******** ******* *** ** common, **’* “****** ******” now.”

**’* *** ***** *** common ** ** ***, it ** ***** ******* or *** *** ****** filed ** **** ****** what ** ***** **** today.

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Undisclosed Integrator #2

08/21/19 04:18pm

**** **** ***** ** well ***** **** **** sentinel ***** ***** ** tied ** ** 😂

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Undisclosed #3

In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #2 | 08/21/19 05:28pm

** ***.

***** *** *** **** to ******* ** *** the ******* ***********.

** ** ******** **** Wyze ************ ** ** **** - ***** ** ***** thin ******* ********* ** John *****.

**** ** *** ******* reason (***) **** *** chose ** ******** ***** patent ********* ******* **** - ** **** *** potentially ** *** ******* financial ******** ** ****** - ** *** *** others *** ****** ** be ***** ******* *** same ********* *****.

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Undisclosed #3

In reply to Undisclosed #3 | 08/21/19 05:30pm

**** *** **** ** infringement '***' **** *** now ***** ** **** precedent ** *** ****** patent **********.

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John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Undisclosed #3 | 08/21/19 05:41pm

********* * *** ** such ******* ** * settlement, ** *** **** would ***** ****** ** avoid ********** ** *********. What ******* ****, ** course, ** ** ** seen.

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Undisclosed #3

In reply to John Honovich | 08/21/19 06:07pm

****... *** ** *** mention, *********** *** ********* preferred ** **********, *** not *********** ********** - unless **'* **** * squeeze ****.

*** **** ** ** the ******* ********* ******** to ** **** ** settle (***** ** ******* margins ******** ** ***** potential ********** - **** RIng).

** **** **** ** pony ** **** $ (i.e. ***** *** ** blackjack) *** * ***** JCI ** ********* **** won't.

**** ** **** ** opinion.

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John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Undisclosed #3 | 08/21/19 05:39pm

****’* **** ****** $** million ******* *** **** by ******* ******* ******** who *** $*.* ******* in ****** ********* * $1.5 ******* **** **** 2018******* ******* ******** - Wikipedia

** ******* ** ***** with ****’* ****** / potential, **** *** ****** deal **** *** ***** to ******* ***’* ****.

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Undisclosed #3

In reply to John Honovich | 08/21/19 05:58pm

**** *** $*** ** now.... *** * ***'* think ***** *** **** includes ****** ************ ********** seeing ** *** **** to ******* *** **** Wyze ******* ******* *** razor-thin *******.

*** **** *** ***** VC ** ***** ***** at ****** ************?

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John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Undisclosed #3 | 08/21/19 06:03pm

****** ********** ** * cost ** ***** ********.

** ***** ********* *** them ******** * ******* (which ***** ***** ****** rate ** ********), **** will ****** $*** ******* plus **** *** **** few *****, ***** ***** even * *** ******* relatively *******.

** **** *** ****** which **** ***** ***** price ***** * *** dollars *** **** ***** point ** ** ***, their ***** ** ***** sound.

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Undisclosed #3

In reply to John Honovich | 08/21/19 08:25pm

***'** ********* ***** **** you ** *** **** if *** **** *** any ****** ** *** industry *** ******* ****** infringement - **** ****** it ***** ****** **** most ** *** ******* resi ********* *** ****** scope.

*** ********** *** ***** **** vs *** ****** (*** specifically ****)?

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John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Undisclosed #3 | 08/21/19 10:37pm

*** ** *** ***** JCI ***** **** ** any ****** (*** ************ Ring)?

* ***'* ****. ***** Wyze ** **** ** a **** ********.

**** * *** ********** in *** **** *** why **** *********, **** the *********** ** **** industry ****** *** **** Wyze ** * **** / ********** *******, ***** is ******** ************** ***** how ****** ***** **** is *** *** ************ it *** **** ** the ******** *****.

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Undisclosed #5

In reply to John Honovich | 08/21/19 11:30pm

*****, **** * ******* for ***** ********* ******** Wyze ** ********* **** as ********* ****

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Randy Lines

08/21/19 04:34pm

** ***** **** * better ******* *** "*" dollars ** ** *** sue **** *** ** existence *** "*" *******.

***

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Undisclosed #5

In reply to Randy Lines | 08/21/19 11:44pm

** ***....** *** ******** rule ********* *** **? I ** *** **** a ****** **** **** that ** ***** ********* or * *** *** day *** ***** *** it ** ***** *** and **** ******** ***.

***: ***** ******* **** the **** ****** ***** source **** *** ******** use! (****)

***: ***** ****** ************ on * *** **** diagram ** ******* *** same ** ****. *** camera ** ************ ***** wirelessly...

***: ** ******** *** wireless ****** ************ **********!

***: ***** ****** *** a ****** *** *** the *** ****...*** ******** mobile **** *** *** phones ** *** **** their ***** ****** ******** accounts ** ****!

***: **** * *** a **** ****** * think ** ********...

*** [********]: **** ** the **** ** ****** a ******* *** ****** win? **** ** ***** our ********* ********, **** are ***** *** *** code ** ******** **** Smartvue. ****** *********! ***'* sue!

****: *******! **** ** now ******** **...

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Undisclosed Integrator #6

In reply to Randy Lines | 08/22/19 12:29am

** **** ***** ******** the **** ** **** cameras **** ** ***** them. **** **** ** aggregate *** **** ** legal ******* ****** **** $20 **** *****. *** knows **** ***** ****** actually ** *** **** would ****** **** ** move * *** ** product ** ***** ****** to *** *** **** a *** ***** ** legal *******. *************, *** world ****** *** *** guy ********* *** *****.

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John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #6 | 08/22/19 12:33am

**** **** ** ********* the **** ** ***** defense ****** **** $** sell *****

**** ***'*. **** *** a ** ****** *******. Such ********* *** *** trying ** **** *****-**** profits. ** **** ** they **** *** **** to **** *** *** confidence ** ***** ********* to **** ******* **, the ***** ******* ***** are *** * *******.

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Undisclosed #4

IPVMU Certified | 08/21/19 06:54pm

****, **** ***** * change **** *** **** troll ***** ***** *** fat ****:******** ******* **** ********, Dahua, *********.

**** ** **** **** “man **** ***”

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Undisclosed #3

In reply to Undisclosed #4 | 08/21/19 07:28pm

**, "*** **** ********"

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Undisclosed

08/23/19 08:21pm

* ******* **** ******* killed *********** *** *** furball ** ********* ******** when *** ******** ****.

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John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Undisclosed | 08/26/19 02:47pm

******* ****** ***********

**************** ****** ******* ** retail, ** *** ***************** ************** **** ******** * few ***** ***:

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Undisclosed Manufacturer #7

08/26/19 01:00pm

**** ******* ***'* **** by ********* **** ***** DSC ********* ********. *** simply ****** ******* **** $20 ******* *** ***'* innovate ***** **** ***** intrusion ******** **** ** cheap ******. *** ** too *** ** **** about ****** ********* *******; it's ***** ********** ***** DSC ********.

*** ** ******, *** Wyze ** ******** *** survival. **** **'* *** kick ** * ****** $M ** ***** * patent ************ ******** *** JCI ***** **** ********** push ** ****** ** when **** *** ***** of ***********/********** ** ** every ********* ******.

*** ** ******* *****-*-**** with *** **** ****** of ************* *** **** "at ***** *** ******** input ******* *******". ****'** fighting * *********** ******* that ******* ***'* ***** - ** *** ******* features *** **** ** install *******, **** ****** don't **** ** ********* installer ******* ******** ***** JCI's *******. ***** *** little **** **** * 2004 ****** **** ***** them ** ******* ********... and ****** ** ** lock *** ***.

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John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Undisclosed Manufacturer #7 | 08/26/19 01:15pm

*** ***** **** ********** push ** ****** ** when **** *** ***** of ***********/********** ** ** every ********* ******.

**. **** ******* ** immaterial ***** ** **** *** $8.4 ******* ******* ** 2018. ********* **** ****** material ******. **** **** have ** ****** **** to ***** ***** ***** their ***** **** *** whether *** **** ** losses ****, ** *** JCI *********** *******, ** makes ** **********.

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Undisclosed Manufacturer #8

08/26/19 05:44pm

**** ** ** *********** case. ***, * ******* that *** ** ****** to ****** ****. ** is **** ****** ** to **** ** ******* market *****. * **** believe **** *** ** trying ** *** * precedence. *** **** ******* this ******* **** **** to * ********** ** years *****? ***** ********** is **** *** ****** use ** ********* *** outcome *** ********** **** would ******* **** ** the ******. * *** has ******* ** *** wireless *********** ***** **** and **** ** **** JCI ** ******* **** its ******* ** ********** technology ***** *** *** unique ** ****. * was **** ** * similar **** ** *** late **'* *** ** the ********* *** ***** found **** *** ******* held ** *** ********* did *** **** ** because *** ****** *** not ********** ** ** unique. ** ** **** be *********** ** *** if * ******* **** 15 ***** *** **** stand ** ** **** technology *** ****** ********** and ** ******** ******** in *** *****. ***** no ********** *** **** set ** **** ** very *********** ** *** how **** ***** ***. I **** ****'* *******.

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John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Undisclosed Manufacturer #8 | 08/26/19 09:04pm

** * ******* **** 15 ***** *** **** stand ** ** **** technology *** ****** ********** and ** ******** ******** in *** *****.

******* * ********** ** mainstream *** *** ** bearing ** ******* *** patent **** ** ***** ago ** *****. ** Wyze *** ***** ***** art ** ******* **** 'inventing' **** ****** *** patent, **** ***** **** to *** ** ***********. But **** ******* ********* is ********** ** ******* now *** ** ******* on *******.

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John Honovich

IPVM | 10/01/19 07:44pm

**** ********** ** ********* ** respond ***** ******* ***.

** **** **** ** tracking *** ******** ** the ****.

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John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to John Honovich | 10/09/19 10:59pm

******:**** *** ******* ** extension ***** ******** ***.

** **** **** ** tracking *** ******** ** the ****.

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