My primary concern about the practicality of these devices relates to setup. A "normal" sampling of ~25 adults might easily include individuals ranging in height from 150 cm to 185 cm. Additionally, there will be many minors with heights of less than 150 cm as well as tall adults with heights exceeding 185 cm.
In short, at what height do you mount the device? Adjusting it to individuals or groups of individuals would require someone to set the device, I assume alternatively an end user could buy three or five of such devices and mount them at different heights.
The K3 has PC monitoring software that will allow exports of reads via .CSV files. From the K3 report:
Using the software, the camera is connected via USB to a PC, so an operator may view temperature readings more easily than simply viewing the unit's display, with the last temperature measurement and Normal/Abnormal displayed with clear green/red indication.
Additionally, not possible on the unit itself, it allows the alarm threshold to be adjusted and displays logs of recent reads as well as CSV export. It also audibly announces temperature, which you can hear in this video:
The K7 also has software, but it's currently not compatible as the K7 USB connection is not identified/known by the half-dozen. workstations we tried it on. We will continue to check it out and see if updates/progress is made/fixed.
Agree several will need to be mounted on the wall at different heights. ADA needs to be considered for one or more of those devices. Somebody in a wheelchair will be required to be scanned also. Ultimately this will be for access control, you are controlling who can access your property by taking their temperature.
ADA is not limited to egress-only. It addresses general usability. As you mention, the manned monitor would likely also need to be present to position people who can't see in order to overcome ADA gaps.
You Get what you Pay for- The price is attractive but, what do you get?
I don't see where this would be beneficial, even in an employee only screening scenario?
Seems it has no way of recording who and what temperature for documenting (proof) that you are screening employees as a precaution.
Further, the limitation on screening people of various heights and then, reading temperatures from the forehead vs. the inner canthus, is known to be subject inaccuracies from environmental conditions.
Trust but Verify- This type of device requires self-checking and adherence to policies, with no audit or way to confirm and verify, you may as well ask people to test themselves at home and hope they do!
I just don't see where anyone would think that this is a viable screening device without requiring someone to monitor it.
Certainly, we cannot imagine viability in a public place where screening the public/customers/patients or others is the desired goal. Again, unless you are going to deploy staff to monitor the results.
How many FTE's x shifts/days x wages, benefits, taxes, WC and other costs = $$$$$
How much does the customer really save with a $100 device?
If employee self-checking & logging of temps are needed, why not use this over a handheld Extech thermometer for example? After visiting a few restaurants to pick up food these past few weeks, I've seen handheld devices used to check employee temps with a logbook just sitting on the front counter.
If I had to pick a device for my employees to log their own temps, why not one that does not require a manager to pick up and use to log temps, and instead have employees clock in and get measured/logged? The device won't get lost or stolen as easily since it's on a wall, and it's still a low-tech low-cost solution that fits a need.
As the pandemic rolls over, that couple hundred dollar investment won't sting as much once it's outlived it's usefulness (over a several hundred dollar or more solution). What sucks is that the US has flattened the curve... vertically, so who knows when this will be over and done with.
I think I'd be more interested in a passive device in each work station or office that can passively monitor from a few feet away. Perhaps it interacts with an App to let the person know that they're temperature appears to be rising.
Lots of process issues to deal with like who is occupying the desk in an open work space environment with but it would be real time.
Continuous monitoring seems an overkill. On the other hand, just entrance monitoring seems insufficient. Perhaps do this checking at the restroom or lunch room so that each person gets screened a few times a day.
If you can't connect to backend software, what's the point to have this at an non-managed employee entrance? If someone slides by with high temp, no safeguard to know. Doesn't look like any way to record faces either beside the last 10 people, without knowing exactly "who" the 10 people were.
Might be cheap but, seems most would want more reporting.
these devices (wall type) are useful as you are not dependent on anyone to check temperature , K3 or K7 whoever is the manufacturer should give a Wiegand out to connect to a controller to make things easier for installer and the customer , customer would prefer this device at all of their entrances , the height problem is ok if you keep at 5 feet .
I have installed this device on a foot sanitiser stand so customer who comes in gets his hand sanitised and also temperature scanned within secs
Why calls these guns? This irritated me to respond.
Since I am a troll I will fix your confusion as I always do.
1. A USB BLE version needs to be created. This can be mounted in your cubicle, office hallway or conference room.
2. This USB version needs to sync data to a phone app/cloud. For example: Classrooms can have one these stationed for students to register with the teacher/admin where the data can be logged to the cloud.
3. If you want to extrapolate that data further into other business continuity linked systems, go for it. Emails, alerts, non medical journals.
What do you think a USB version should cost? $40 bucks? or is that too low of a price to pay for convenient data that assists preventative awareness.
So sick and tired of simple narrative forums that offer polls, quotes, references from the past and trolling comment section.
Get your think tank together and offer solutions! not opinions! #MY2CENTS