ASIS GSX 2019 Final Show Report

By IPVM Team, Published Sep 12, 2019, 07:41pm EDT

IPVM went to Chicago for ASIS GSX 2019, with many exhibitors disappointed about traffic and the exhibitor schedule changing next year.

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However, there were startups making progress, growing interest in gunshot detection, the return of a weakened Hikvision USA and more.

Inside we cover:

  • Ex-Exacq startup Qumulex unveils details
  • SAST App store getting closer
  • Gunshot detection interest grows
  • Great marketing videos
  • Weak traffic day 2 and 3
  • Changing exhibitor schedule for 2020
  • Safezone showing tiniest gunshot detector
  • AmberBox Gunshot Detection Startup
  • Startup Vaion first US showing
  • Bottles and cans left at entrances
  • Hikvision jumbo pano / PTZ
  • Assa Abloy huge digital screens
  • IBM cybersecurity on display
  • New Bosch 3000i series
  • DHS deletes Hikvision branding from badges
  • IPVM bags on the show floor
  • Traffic overview - good and bad
  • Major Hanwha advertising display
  • New Hanwha cameras - PTRZ, LPRs, and P-Series AI
  • Small company sponsors cover of show daily
  • Small booths for Honeywell, Dahua, and Anyvision
  • Hikvision booth in the corner
  • Hikvision new US president unveiled
  • Hikvision USA Pivots to SMB
  • ASIS sells badge naming to US government banned Hikvision
  • Problems with Hikvision branded badges
  • Axis employees rip off Hikvision badges.
  • New Axis models - Sony Killer
  • Verkada booth in the back
  • Vintra AI analytics
  • Startup sector overview
  • Verint's bad slogan
  • New VP for Morse Watchmans
  • HID advocates for secure wireless access
  • Securitas donates
  • Free robot socks
  • Firearm simulators popular with attendees
  • Drone detection demo popular
  • Milestone: "The bar has been raised in security"
  • No 'Most Outstanding Manufacturer' this year
  • The 'Interactive Learning Lab' Examined
  • Marketing Chicago's high crime

Ex-Exacq ******* ******* ******* *******

***** **** ** **** booths ******** **** ************* traffic, ******* ******* *** frequently ****** ** *** image ***** ************:

**** ********* *** ****** due ** **** **** being *** ***** **** the ******* ** ******* their ******** *** *** company's ******** **** ******** significant *******, **** ******* with *****.

******* ****** ** *****. Their**** ****** ** *******, with ******* ************ ********* for ******* ****.

**** **** ***** ************* 9 *** *****, ********* ex-Exacq ********.

SAST *** ***** ******* ******

*** **** **** ****** 'Bosch ******' / ************* ******* ***** ** genera *******, ****** **** their **** **** ***** in ******* **** ******* availability ** *** ***** and ***** ******* ** Q1 ****.

**** ****** *********** **** six ****** ******** ** GSX, ********* *****, ******, and *******.

**** **** ****** ***** of ***** *** ***** and ****** ********** ********* which ***** ***** ** deploy ************ ** *** or **** *******, ******* updates, *** ***** ****** health (*** *****, ***, storage, ***.)

**** *** ******* ** development ********. ************ ***** from ****** ********* (*.*. human ********* ** ****) to ******* ********* ** startup ****** ************, ***** here:

************, **** **** ******* an *** **** ******* Neurala ***** ****** ***** to ***** ******* ** recognize ******* ****** ** their **** (*** ******* the ****** *****). ***** models *** **** ** pushed ** ***** ******* via *** *****.

Great ********* ****** **** ******** *** **

***** *** **** ****** struggled ********* *** **********, one ** *** **** benefits **** ******** **** on-site ***** ********** **** '******** *** **', *********** ***+ ***** ** exhibitors. ***** ** ** example ** *** ******* video:

** ** ********* **** cheerleading **** ********** *** the ********* ******** ********, ***** ******** industry ********** *** ***** his *********** **** ****. While ***** ****** ** not ** ********** *** much *******, ** ** useful *** ************* *** want ** ***** **** and *** ** *** promotion.*** *** ***+ ***** from *** **** *** various ***** **********.

Gunshot ********* ********

********** *** ** ******* with **** ********* *** an ********** ****** ** suppliers, ** *** **** attendees ******* ***** ******* for ******* *********. ** are******** ******** ********, ** here ** **** ***** on *** *** **** to ***** ** ******* detection.

Small ******* ********* ***** ** **** *****

**** ****, ******* ********* Systems *** ******* ** spend ************* ** ***** and ********* *** ******* in**** *********** ** ** *****. In ********, *******, *** such * ***** *******, they *** ********** *** cover ** *** **** daily.

Safe **** ******* ******* ******* ********

*** **** **** ******** was **** ****, ********* their $*** ******** ***** was ********* ****, ** shown ** *** ***** below.

** ***** ******* **** company ** *****. ** *** ***** skeptical ***** *** **********, both **** *** **** of *********** ********** ** the ******** **** *** also *** ***** **** size ** *** ******.

AmberBox - ******* ********* *******

**** **** *** *** the **** ******* ******* gunshot ********* ** *** floor. ****************** ******* ***** ******** as ****, ***** ****** to *** "***-****** **************": the ********** ***** ** the ****** *********, ******** to ****** ****** *****, and ***** ********** ** "thousands" ** ********** ** gunshots ****** ** **** detector (***** *****).

********'* ******* ** * cloud ****** ***** ****** users ** *** *** location ** ********, ************* notify ********* *********, *** can **** ** ********** to ************* **** **** information ******** ** ***** 911 ******* *** ******** a **** ** ****** from ******** *****. ********* may **** ** ********** to ***** ******* *** contact *******.

******** ** ***** ** market **** * ************ model, **** ** ******* cost. ************* *** $*** USD *** ******** *** year *** ********** *********, including *** ******* *** cloud ********. **** **** are ******** ******* ************ costs ** ********* *********, $250 *** ****, **** some ******* ************ **** depending ** ****** ** sensors.

Shot ****** ******* *********

******* *** ******* ********* exhibitor,**** ********* ****** * ********* approach, **** ********** (******, ~$*** ****)******* (*******, ~$*,*** ****)*******. ***** ****** *** intended ** ** **** with ******** ***** *******, since **** ********** *** educational ********** **** **** form ** ******** ******* station ********* ***** (********* or ****).

**** ****** **** ****** cellular-connected ******** ***** **** send ************* *** ***** or *** ******** ** users (~$*,*** ****).

Hikvision ***** ** *** ******

*********,*** **** *** **** floor ** ****, ** **** **** a ********** ***** ***** but ** *** *** corner **** **** *** entrances.

***** ******* *** ********** subdued *** ** ** hard ** **** *** much **** ** ******* of *** *** ** the ********** **** ***** positioning.

Hikvision *** ****** ** ***

**** *** ** *** ban ** *****, ********* has ************** ******* ***** marketing ** ***** *** medium-size ******** ***** **** can ******* **** *** where ***** ** **** a ********, ** ***** own************ *** *** **** emphasized:

Hikvision's *** ** ********* ********

**** ****** *** *** ********* USA *********, ***** ***** on *** ***** **** to ********* ** ** Sales***** ******:

**** *** ********* ******** experience, ****** ********** *** Hikvision ***** ******* *** before **** ********* ** and ***** ************* *********. Before *********, **** *** the ****** ** ******'* ASMAG ********.

**** **** ******* ****** long-term **** *********** ***** ******* ******* He, **** **** *** Eric ****, **, ** the *** *** ******* of ********* ***.

**'* *** ****** ***** is '**** *********, ************* Public *******' ********** *** move ******* ** ****** operations:

** *** **** **** respected ****** *** *** division *** ** *** industry.

ASIS ***** ***** ****** ** ** ********** ****** *********

***** ********* ** ****** for ** **********, **** sold ***** ******** ** the *******, **** ** exhibitors, ** ***** *****:

**** ********* ** **** generally ****:

**** ************* **** *** screen ** ******** ********** for *** ********** ** their ******** **** *****, standards, ***. *** **** accepting ** ********* ** GSX **** *** ********** an ******* ** ******* endorsement ** **** ************* of *** ********* ** its ********.

*******, *** ***** ********* created ** ***** *** many, ********* *********'* ***********.**** ****** **** ************ $**,*** ****** **** price / ********* *** not ******* ********* ******:

Ripping / ****** ********* ******** - **** *********

**** *******, *** **** employees ** *** ****** off / *** *** Hikvision ******** **** ***** badges, ** ***** *****:

Problems **** *********-******* ******

**** *******, *** *********-******* badges **** **** ** read ***** ***** ** little ******** ******* *** wordmark *** *** **********:

********** **** ****** ***** employees **** ******* *** Hikvision ***** ***** ** pointed **** ***.

*******, *** ********* ***** promotion *** *** **** much ** ** ****** because ** *** **** for ****** ** *** them ****** *** ****** carefully ** ******* ** the ****** *********** ********.

DHS ******* ********* ******** **** ******

*** ** ********** ** Homeland ******** ********* ********** at *** *** ******* Hikvision ******** **** ***** badges, ** *** ********** glass ***** *****:

******** ** ********** ********* with * **-********** ******, Chinese **********-***** ******* ** inappropriate. ****, **** *** discussion *** *** ******, still **** *** ********** this.

Startup ***** ***** ** *******

$** ******* *********** *** ******* *** end-to-end ******** ********* ***** built-in *********. *** ***** below ***** **-*** ******** of * ****** ****** around * ****:

** **** ** **** this ** *** **** when ** ** ******** and ** **********.

Bottles *** **** **** ** *********

** ******** **** **** to **, ****** ******** was ******** ********* **** taking ***** ****** *** the **** *****, ** people **** **** ** the ***** ********* *******, as ***** ****:

** ******* *** ** ASIS *** ******* *** they **** *** ***** of *** ****** *********** alcoholic ********* ** *** show *****. **** ****** all ***** *** ******* from *** **** ***** immediately ***** *** ***** hour

Hikvision ***** **** / ***

*** ** *********'* ***** was *** ***** ****/***, a **** ****** ***** use ** ******* ********* in ****** ****** *** world. *******, ** *** photo ***** ***** ** is **** ***** *** heavy:

Assa ***** ***** *** **** ******* ****

***** **** ******* *** big ***** ***** ***** booths, *** **** ****** we *** **** * gigantic ******** ********* *** Assa *****, ******* ********* video ** *** ******* below *****:

** **** ***** *** told ** **** **** was *** ***** **** where **** **** ***** this. *** ***** ******** are **** ** ** 100 - *** ******* combined **** * *******, and ****** **** ********* setup. **'* ******* ** us *** **** **** cost *** *** **** of * ******* ** provides *** ** ********** stood *** **** ** the ***** ***** **** all ***** ********** ***.

IBM ************* ** *******

******** ******* *** ***** analytics ******* **** ****, *** ******* *** at *** ** * small ***** ********** ***** cybersecurity *********:

New ***** ***** ******

***** ** ********** ***** 3000i ****** ******, ** updated ***-**** **** (******** at ~$*** *** ****) which *** ******** ***** Essential ***** *********. ****** to **** ** **** 2019/early ****.

Weak ******* *** *

**** ************* *********** ********** about **** *** * traffic ***** ****** **** complaints ** *** *.

**** ** * **** of *** ***** ** the **** ****** ** day *, ******* *** weak *******:

*********’* ***** *** ****** Hikvision ********* ******* ** each ***** ****** ** day ***, ** ***** below:

*** ***** ***** *** practically *****, ** ****:

******** **** *** ****** employees ****** ***** *** conversations:

** *** *********:

*** **** ***** *** light ** *** ****** day ** *:**** (*** show ***** *** **** until *:****):

**** * ******** ******* had **** ****** ******** than ******** *********:

A *** ****** ***** **** ******

*** ****** ***** ***** had ****** ********** ****** they ********* **** ***** on *** **** ************ of ******* *** ****** various *** ******* *************.

IPVM **** ** *** **** *****

***** **** * ****** of **** ****, ***** was ********** ** ** since ** *** *** give *** *** ** the ****, ** **** must **** **** **** ISC ****.

Day * ******* ******** - **** *** ***

************* * ***** ************* ***** '***********' *** 20,000, **** ****** ******** ** ****. *** **** *** struggled **** ********* ************ ********** ************* *** **** *** years ** **** ***** be *** *** '**'. Worth ******* ** ****, the **,*** ****** ** not *** ***** ** who ******** ******** *** just ***** *** ********** online, ********* *** ****.

**** ******* ** *** entrance *** ***** ** the ******* **** *** heavy ** **:** **, but ******* ******* ** the **** ** *** show *****. ******* ******* the ******** ** **:** AM:

***** **** *** **** floor ** **** ******* in *** ****** ** day * *******:

**** ** * **** of *** ******* ** the **** ** *** show *****.

*****, ***** *** ***** expanses ** ***** ***** in *** ****** ** the **** *****.

***:

***** *** **** ******** poorly ******** ”************ ********” spread ****** *** *****.

*** *******, **** ** people ******** **** * Learning "** ************ * Human ********" *******.

*** ******* *** *********** and *********** ******** *** just **** *** *********.

** *** ****** ** the *** ***** *** quite * ****** ** empty ** ***** ******:

**** ***** ***** ******** a ***** *****, **** these ********* *******:

*** **** ******, ***** is * ******** ** the **** *****. ** is *** ** *** specific ***** ** **** showing * *******.

Major ****** *********** *******

****** *** *** **** prominent *********** ** *** show, **** * ***** banner ** *** ******** outside:

*** ******** ***** ******* in *** ********** ******.

**** ****** ********* *** any ***** *********** *******, with ****** ********* ** the ******.

New ****** ******* - **** ***** ******, ***, *-****** **, *** **

******’* *** ***** ****** with **** ********* ****** users ** ******* ****** the ****** ** ***/***/*** degree ************* ** **** as ****** *******, ********* we *** *** ********** seen ******, ******* ** element ** *****-******* *** PTZ *******, ** ***** below:

****** ** **** ******* new *** ******* ********** with ******* **** (******* Optix *********.)

***** ** *** ************ integration:

**** ** *** ***** but ********* ****** *** their *********.

******’* * ****** ** cameras*** ** *******, ***** here:

******'****-**** **** ********* ** ******* ** well.

Small ****** *** *********, *****, *** *********

* *** ** ************* who *** *** ****** historically ** ******* ** the **** ** *** West *** ******* ******* ones ** ***.

*** ********* ***** ** small, ********** *** *** large **** *** ****** large ****** ** *** West:

*** ***** ***** ** also ***** **** ****.

*** **** ***** ***** continues **** *********, * sharp ******** ** ***** very *** *** **** booth:

*** *********** ****** ** simply **** ***** ******* traffic, **** *** **** being **% ** ***% more *********. ** ** hard ** ** ******* since**** ******** *** ********** reporting.

New **** ****** - **** ******

**** ** ******* ***** Q1798-LE ******, * ** Micro-4/3” ******** ***** ******** upgraded *** ***** *********** aiming ** ******* **** large ****** ****** **** their *** ***** *** Sony’s *****.

***** **** ***** ***** camera *** ~$*,***, ******* a ****, **** ** selling **** *** *** for ***** $*,*** **** a ****** ***** ***** remote **** ****. ***** now, **** *** **** Sony's **** ****** ************** product.

Verkada ***** ** *** ****

**** **** ** *** West, ******* *** * 10' * **' ***** at *** ****.

Vintra ** *********

****** ** ******* *** latest ******* ** ***** AI *********. ***** ******** search ** *** ***** integrated ** ******* ******** Center, ******** ******** ** be ******** ******** **** the ******** **** ******.

Startup ****** ********

*** ******** ******* *** companies ** ***** ********* Startup ******.

** *** ****** **** for ******* ** ** was **** *** **** aisle **** *** ********.******* ***** *******, *** just ***** *******'* ******* head, *** ***** *** exhibitors *****.

Verint's *** ******

****** *** **** ** rework **** ****** ** make ** ***** **** they *** *** "*** Leader ** *****."

New ** *** ***** *********

****** *** ***** ******** editor,*** *******, ** *** *** VP ** ***** *** marketing *** ***** *********:

*** ********** ** *** something ** **** **** covered ****** *** ******* says ** ** ******* and *** ******** *** manufactured ** *** *** at ***** *********** **.

HID *********

*** ********** *** **** secure ********-***** ****** **** the "**** **********".

***** ************ ********* ** convenient, ** **** *** have *** ******* ** precisely ***** ***** ******* are *******, ***** ** a **** *** ****** control ************ ***** ******* may ************* **** *****. HID ***** ***** *** Samsung ** **** ********* that ** ********** ***** wideband (***) ***** *** just ******** ** *** iPhone ** ******* *****.

Securitas *******

********* ** ******** $* to *** ******** ** Fallen ******** ********** *** every ***** *******.

Free *****

****** ******** ** ****** out **** *****.

** **** ** ***** more ** ****** **** Cobalt ***** ** *** show.

Firearms ********** ******* **** *********

*** ******** ******** ***** guns. ***** *** ** least *** ******** ********** on *** **** ***** with ********* ***** ** for * ****.

Drone ********* **** *******

Milestone: "*** *** *** **** ****** ** ********"

******* **** ************* ****** **** **** were ******* *** *** in ********

*******, ********* ************ *** again:

**** ** **** *** Milestone, *** **** ** just * **** ** another ******. *************, ********* has * ******** ** exaggerate ***** *************, *** example, ******* **** **** when **** ********* **************** ***** ******* *** for ****.

No '**** *********** ************' **** ****

** **** ********** **** award ** **** *****, such ***** * **** *********** Security ************* (*****) **** No *****. **** ****, **** listed *** ******** *** no *** ***, **** the ********* ******:

** **** ************** ********** to ** ****** **** while ************* *** ***** for **** *****, **** reached * ********** ***** to **** ** ********** a ********. **** ***** not ******** *** ** how **** ******* *** this *****. **** **** they **** ** *** it **** **** *** the ******** *** ** only $***.

Neurala **** ** **** *****

*** ** *** **** interesting ************** *** ** the **** ***** *************** ******* ** *** where *** ***** ***** custom ****** *********:

Marketing *******'* **** *****

*** **** ***** **** you ** ** *** middle ** ** **** GSSX ****? ******* ** ******** ********* this, ********** ******* *****:

******* *** * ********** for **** *****, *.*.,**** ******* ******* **** editorial ****** "*** ** there ** **** ******** and ******* ** *******?"

*** *** ******* *** a **** *** ** go ** ***** *****:

**** ** ***********, **, ** *** one ****, **'* **************. On *** *****, ** you *** ****, ***** not *** **** ********* to ********* ***** ********** by *****.

Changing ********* ******** *** ****

**** ** ******** *** 3rd *** /******** **** - *** **** **** replaced ** **** * Monday *:**** - *:**** session. ******* *** ********* remain *** ****, **** Tuesday ***** * **** longer *** ********* * hour ******* *****, ******** to **** ****, ** we **** ** *** table *****:

ASIS GSX Schedule Change

**** ****** **** ******** explaining *** *******. **** **** ********** to **** ****:

*** ***** ***** **** shifted **** ******** ******* to ****** ***** ************* concludes ** ***** ** order ** **** ********** and ********* ** *********** to **** ********** ******* that ******* ***** ******* the **** *****. *** Tuesday ******* ** ******* for ********* ******** *** prospect ******* *** *******. However, **** *** **** a *****-** *********** ** Monday ** ******* **** the ******** ******** **-****** where **** *** ****** invitations *** **** ******* or ******* ***** *** start ** ***** ******** for ***** ********** ********** on ******* *** *********. And *** **** *** conclude ** ********* ******* on * **** **** at *** *********’* *********, another ***** *********** ** exhibitors *** ********* ** network.

*** *** **** *** getting *** ** *** Thursday / *** *** is **** ********** ** really *** *** ********** do *** **** ******* a ***, ********** ** the ******* ** ***** shows. *******, ***, *** show ******** **** * later ****** ******* ******** people ** ****** ** during *** *** *** attend *** *********/******* *******.

*** **** ********* ** heard **** ************* *** that (*) ** ***** force ******* ** ****** earlier ** *** *******, increasing ***** *** ***** inconveniences *** (*) **** historically ********* ***** / partner ****** ** ****** would **** ** ** truncated, ******* ** **********.

**** ***** **** ****** attend *** * ******* days, *.*., *** ** Monday *******, ***** ********* night *** ** ***** encourage ****** ** ** just ****** *** *******, flying *** ******* *****, making *********, * **** day, * **** ****** day. ** ** **** for ** ** **** how **** **** **** overall.

**** ********* ** **** on ****, ******:

*** ****** *********** ********* will ** ********* ** Wednesday *** *** ********* stay ******* *** *********’* Reception ** *** ********* and ******** ********* ** earlier ********* ** *** a *******.

***** ********** ********* ********* through ********* ***** ***** to **, *** ******** who **** ****** *** exhibits *** **** **** as ** *********** ** consolidate *** ****** ***** overall **** **** ** flying *** ** ****** and **** *** **** day ******* **** ** hours ** **** ***** time **********. ** *** considering ****.

*** ****, ***:************* ******* **** **** ASIS *** **** *** 2020 *****

Comments (85)

Makes me glad I decided to not attend. Looks like a snoozefest.

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Thanks for the show report, it is appreciated by those of us that couldn't make it to the show.

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Verint's Bad Slogan

Verint may want to rework this slogan to make it clear that they are not "The Leader In Fraud."

This made me laugh out loud!

Verint has to lead in something.

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I was asked by a client today who only has ever attended GSX how much bigger ISC West is than GSX. I estimated GSX is roughly 1/4 to 1/3 the size once all the void space is removed. Is this fairly accurate?

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I estimated GSX is roughly 1/4 to 1/3 the size once all the void space is removed. Is this fairly accurate?

I think 1/3rd is roughly correct, though as you note, GSX has a lot more dead space and non-exhibitor space than ISC West so it's hard to be certain.

GSX claims 500 - 550 exhibitors, ISC West claims about double that, ~1,000. The average ISC West booth is bigger than GSX as larger manufacturers tend to have significantly bigger booths. That's how I get the roughly 3x for exhibitor space.

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I decided not to attend this year because we're in the middle of a big renewal contract with one of our best customers. But as I see there's not much interesting things in the show. By the way I already saw all the new Hanwha cameras in their Peru Roadshow 2 weeks ago.

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For some reason, there is a Delorean on the show floor. It is not in any specific booth or even showing a sponsor.

it’s there in case you missed last year’s show ;)

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I think the DeLorean is part of the "Back to the 80's" theme they are trying to pull off.

ASIS/GSX wants to bring everyone back to a better time for the industry, when the channel was strong, margins were good, and nobody had to know what a damn subnet mask was for. In those days there were no blogs revealing shady marketing practices and doing independent tests, just old-fashioned publications printing whatever manufacturers told them to! I wasn't there, but I understand it was quite an era.

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Lol, related, this is literally tonight's party:

President’s Reception—Fight for Your Right to Party! Wednesday, 11 September | 7:00 – 10:00 pm | McCormick Place, Hall B. We are going back in time to the 80s, so dress in your best 80s attire (neon anyone?) and dance to live entertainment, play iconic video games, and enjoy food, drinks, and top-notch networking.

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Jesus, number 1 on the list of how to keep people from coming to your event- have a costume party for people who are out of town.

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My boss can just wear his normal suits and normal ties to an Eighties themed costume party.

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neon attire?

I grew up smack in the 80's and even though we certainly had some embarrassing (now) wardrobe choices, I can't recall any neon clothing.

also, the '81 DeLorean with the Back To The Future placard next to it should really be an '82 - which was the model used in the movie.

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FWIW, I recall a neon phase around 1984ish. It was mostly the girls, and the stuff faded pretty quickly with a couple of washes, so it was not a long-term fad, but it was a thing for a brief minute.

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Growing up as a skate/BMX kid in the 80s (believe it or not), I can confirm that there was definitely neon among us. I had a very neon and black pair of shoes and I remember my skateboard being neon green or yellow or something.

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I can confirm that he did, indeed, have those shoes, as did I. My skateboard was neon pink with neon green grip tape.

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neon pink with neon green- Ouch!

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The special guest singer at the ASIS party tonight was Rick Springfield who, according to Wikipedia, is best known for Jessie's Girl. This Tweet has an excerpt from the show's performance:

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Perfect selection, another working class dog among the audience.

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Neon tube tops were really awesome back then (for a couple of reasons)! Can't wait to hear about number of participants donning them and any repercussions on the dance floor!

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Sony killer? Lol. The SNC VM772r has a MSRP of 1999 and would be a more honest comparison to this small Axis bullet camera. C’mon guys

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The VM772r is a 4+ year old 1" sensor camera which had several limitations even by 2015 standards, including multiple streaming limitations (cuts framerate in half with WDR on, cuts it when multistreaming), lack of real VBR streaming, and no smart codec.

I expect if anything the Q1798 is targeting both those Sony models. How it performs against a full 35mm sensor remains to be seen, but we'll be testing it as soon as it's available.

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What’s there to kill if it’s such a poor camera? At least it sounds like you will test it.

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We tested the VM772R when it was first released 4 years ago, noting those problems then. As technology has advanced and Song continued to lag, the relative issues grew.

We'd like to see a strong Sony in the industry as it is better to have more companies innovating but it's on Sony for not investing more.

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I strongly believe Sony is divesting itself from the camera market. That's speculation on my part. I like there being competitors in the market, too. But they seem to be dwindling, not growing, in recent years. I mean those that are established or seem strong at becoming established. The recent startups need time to play out.

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This was posted on Deceptive ASIS Attendance about this year's ASIS:

I'm surprised nobody is talking about the CEO of Jacobs (Tuesday Keynote Speaker) spending 15-20 minutes talking about how great of company they are and their 50,000 employees all have a voice about how the company is ran. Typically ASIS will allow you to make a 1-2 minute intro on your company before you start talking about something constructive to the security market. There were quite a few people walking out before they were complete selling their company to the "22,000" attendees.

As I responded there:

We did not go to any of the keynotes as they generally are uninteresting, though what you are describing is even worse.

If anyone else did attend that, please let us know if you agree or disagree.

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I was thinking the same thing when I was in there.

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I notice you didn't note the ADT announcement.

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What ADT announcement?

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That's mostly a formality, we covered the overall merging / assimilation here - ADT Eliminating Acquired Brands, Unifying Under 'Commercial' Brand

ADT also announced acquiring 2 regional integrators today - ADT Inc. - ADT Strengthens Commercial Offering With the Purchase of Denver’s Systems Group and Fusion Fire Protection in DC Metro

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Hi IPVM,

I have a few Bosch questions:

(1) Did anyone check out Bosch's "AUTODOME IP starlight 7000i":

(a) Does it use the same pendant arm mount (VGA-PEND-ARM) as the prior gen AUTODOME or is it strictly NPT threaded?

(b) Is there plans for a 4K version of the AUTODOME IP 7000i?

(c) What's the release date?

(d) Considering "AUTODOME" is all caps, are Bosch reps contractually obligated yell AUTODOME whenever they say it?

2) Bosch Video Management 10.0 question:

A "snap to area" feature was introduced earlier this year via a firmware update for Bosch moving cameras. During a live view of a AUTODOME, "snap to area" allows operators to immediately define an area of focus, thus the rapid adjustment of many features on a moving camera.

Bosch's "snap to area" significantly cuts down mouse commands, allowing a "click-to-center" or "draw to focus", yet this feature is only available through the moving camera's webpage.

(a) Is the "snap-to-area" feature on the roadmap for Operator Client?

(b) Is it possible to see this functionality added as a patch?

(b) Why wasn't this included with BVMS 10.0?

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I have some answers for you on the new Autodome.

1a. I believe it uses the same mount. It appeared to be the exact same form factor as others. I'll double check that.

1b. They didn't mention any, but I'll check that, as well. There is a MIC 4K version which they were showing, but no Autodome.

1c. December. I believe there might be earlier access for projects.

1d. They do, in fact, yell AUTODOME when they say it. Their booth neighbors get really angry. Sorry, that was an Undisclosed #1/2-quality joke and I apologize.

1e. A fifth question, which you didn't ask, but was a new feature they mentioned to me: The Autodome 7000i will perform some analytics while in motion. So if you use a sweep tour instead of a preset tour, for example, they claim it will now detect objects in the scene. The new models will also support Camera Trainer.

I will send all of the BVMS questions to Bosch and get back to you when they respond. We didn't go over BVMS in the booth.

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I've got some answers from Bosch on your questions:

(a) Does it use the same pendant arm mount (VGA-PEND-ARM) as the prior gen AUTODOME or is it strictly NPT threaded?

Yes the mechanical format of new AUTODOME IP starlight 7000i us exactly same as existing cameras so all the mounts and power supplies are compatible with new camera

(b) Is there plans for a 4K version of the AUTODOME IP 7000i?

At this moment only MIC will have the 4K camera with 1” Sensor & Zoom lens with optical image stabilization. We are evaluating solution for AUTODOME family also but this is still in research phase

(c) What's the release date?

We will start accepting the orders for new cameras in Oct 2019 and shipments will start by end of Nov. 2019

(d) Considering "AUTODOME" is all caps, are Bosch reps contractually obligated yell AUTODOME whenever they say it?

:) I definitely like to shout out AUTODOME & MIC

2) Bosch Video Management 10.0 question:

A "snap to area" feature was introduced earlier this year via a firmware update for Bosch moving cameras. During a live view of a AUTODOME, "snap to area" allows operators to immediately define an area of focus, thus the rapid adjustment of many features on a moving camera.

Bosch's "snap to area" significantly cuts down mouse commands, allowing a "click-to-center" or "draw to focus", yet this feature is only available through the moving camera's webpage.

(a) Is the "snap-to-area" feature on the roadmap for Operator Client?

Yes this is under discussion, if there is any project for which this feature is required urgently then please let us know, we can give more details through our sales/marketing team

(b) Is it possible to see this functionality added as a patch?

Why wasn't this included with BVMS 10.0?

For BVMS 10.0 main focus is on introducing Person Identification Powered by Anyvision and improve the data security level of the product. Due to this focus we could not include the snap-to-zoom functionality in this release.

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this is embarrassing.

if I were staging these talks, I would've had a team of at least 20 local temps in biz casual dress on stand-by in the back room eating hot dogs until they were needed as seat fillers.

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team of at least 20 local temps in biz casual dress on stand-by in the back room eating hot dogs until they were needed as seat fillers

They have enough issues with deceiving on traffic, don't give them any ideas....

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They could always allow in the homeless like the old days of ISC East!!

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I genuinely feel bad for the folks on stage.

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The question is, if all the seats are open, why did most of the people choose to sit on the back row? Go sit on the front row and throw in a comment on occasion. Ask the hard questions. You have to provide at least 10 attendee's worth of distraction to make the speakers earn their pay. Those speakers aren't going to heckle themselves.

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This is ASIS everything is volunteer. So the only folks getting paid are the key note speakers and ASIS themselves.

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Reasons they sat in the back:

The cool kids sat in the back in school so, it was their turn.

They didn't want their phone use to be too distracting.

Easier exit 10 minutes after the session started.

Harder to hear snores from the back row.

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Well, I never sat in the back in school, so your first reason is all wrong. Totally wrong.

It is interesting the gradient you get from front to back. People up front generally respect the teacher, stay focused, and learn. People at the back... not so much.

I always sat in front. I always knew my teacher. I also got a higher grade than almost everybody in every class.

Then I went with my boss to a class and he wanted to sit in the back. It was awful. People were browsing the Internet, discussing how much they disliked the software or disliked the teacher or disliked other students, etc. People who had trouble following the teacher didn't ask questions. Consequently, most of them didn't get much good out of the class.

Don't be one of those loopy back-sitters, kids. Sit up front and pay attention.

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I teach in a classroom setting a lot - and I disagree with pretty much everything you said above.

"People up front generally respect the teacher, stay focused, and learn. People at the back... not so much."

I see zero evidence of this in my classes and I think this is just your own assumption based on the confirmation bias present due to your own abilities to learn things quickly.

"I always sat in front. I always knew my teacher. I also got a higher grade than almost everybody in every class.

These three sentences are presented as absolutely related - when they may not be. i.e. maybe you are just smarter than most people.

"Then I went with my boss to a class and he wanted to sit in the back. It was awful. People were browsing the Internet, discussing how much they disliked the software or disliked the teacher or disliked other students, etc. People who had trouble following the teacher didn't ask questions. Consequently, most of them didn't get much good out of the class."

this anecdotal evidence sounds to me like the teacher in this example just sucks at teaching.

"Don't be one of those loopy back-sitters, kids. Sit up front and pay attention."

attention span and aptitude for learning is not based on the location of your seat in relation to the presenter.

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Sorry Marty, I sat in the back and did everything he said. My kids were up front, all honor kids.

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don't be sorry.... I like to hear everyone's viewpoint :)

I do not discount that those that seek to tune out in class may choose the furthest position from the teacher. I know this from much 1st hand experience in my youth as the aforementioned loopy back-sitter that UDI6 speaks of...

The onus then, falls on the instructor to also know this truth and actively combat against it - rendering seat position moot.

And I can tell you this: as an instructor I am slightly more wary of those that sit right up front vs those that choose the back row.

why?

because, as a former loopy back-sitter, I know the truth mentioned above - and I can overcome it.

however, in my experience, those that seek to showcase how smart they are to everyone in the class (which works to derail my flow so everyone can learn if they want to) always sit in the front row. ;)

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The onus then, falls on the instructor to also know this truth and actively combat against it

I haven't seen many instances of a teacher successfully working a room like that. But then, most of the teachers I deal with nowadays aren't necessarily trained as much in teaching as they are in the subject matter. I could be wrong, but that's the best excuse I could think of.

Maybe you're just a really good teacher ;)

however, in my experience, those that seek to showcase how smart they are to everyone in the class ... always sit in the front row.

Had one sitting in the third row in my most recent class ;)

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Over the years I've had a few classmates who I have deep respect for, not for their smarts, but for their work-ethic. They clearly didn't have the same educational advantages of most other people in the class, but they out-worked them (and me) many times over. In my experience, those guys have always been on the front row.

Seating position may not inherently determine your ability to learn, but it may be indicative of the attitude of the student. Hence, don't be one of those people who sits at the back for the purpose of ignoring the teacher, be one of the people who sits up for the purpose of learning.

Here are a few quotes from a somewhat-related paper by Rebecca Szparagowski of Bowling Green:

Seating students in rows has been found to double on-task behavior of students and reduce inappropriate behavior (Wannarka & Ruhl, 2008); (Bicard et al., 2012).

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Besides behavioral implications, student seating position within a classroom can potentially significantly impact student academic success. Several factors could account for potential academic differences between students seated in the front versus students seated in the back of a classroom. Typically teachers spend seventy percent of the classroom time in the front of the classroom in a traditional classroom seating arrangement (Hood-Smith & Leffingwell, 1983). The concentration of the teacher at the front of the room could partially contribute to findings that students seated in the front of the classroom have higher participation, ask and receive more questions from the teacher, and have improved belief of their abilities through several different grade levels (Kaya & Burgess, 2007; Wannarka & Ruhl, 2008; Perkins & Wieman, 2005). On the other hand in larger university classrooms, students seated in the back of the classroom show lower attendance, larger dropout rates in university classes, and higher interaction with peers (Zomorodian et al., 2012; Perkins & Wieman, 2005; Wannarka & Ruhl, 2008).

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I also wanted to add - separately - that Brandon was clearly making a joke when he posted the comment you responded to. (and I voted it funny)

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I voted it funny also. My first paragraph was intended to be a humorous response, but the tone when I said it in my head may not have been successfully transferred. Just imagine Steve Martin saying it.

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Because those are people resting their feet, not people listening to the session.

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The pro case for getting rid of the Thursday / 3rd day is that attendance is really bad and exhibitors do not like wasting a day, especially at the expense of these shows. Instead, now, the show benefits from a later Monday session allowing people to travel in during the day and attend the afternoon/evening session.

GSX is not a 3-day worthy show. It's barely worthy of being a show at all, that part is just to get exhibitors to subsidize the rest of the event. It does not matter if the "3rd day" is the first day of the show, or the last day. It does not matter if it is a block of time in the morning, or in the afternoon, or any other time. Nobody wants 3 days of GSX exhibits.

The problem for GSX is that manufacturers likely won't show up for a 2 day show, even though everybody knows it is a 2 day show at best. This dorking around with the partial day is not solving the problem and no version of this will lead to a successful outcome.

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We have updated the post with information on some other gun detection startups at the show: AmberBox and Shot Tracer.

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ASIS CEO interview discussing the show and the schedule change.

Interestingly, he notes education attendance under 4,000 people, which reinforces that clear majority are exhibit only attendees. While ASIS does not clearly report attendance nor splits, compared to the last audit we found (for 2012), this means education / conference attendance is down:

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John,

I think maybe some of the coverage of booth sizes misses the point a lot of the vendors had hospitality suites in the floors above for private demos. Not sure if you were in any of those suites but since ASIS is really more an end user show the floor demo is just the bait to get end users in to the private demos or out to dinner and drinks and off the floor. The show serves a completely different function than ISC in my opinion at this point. I feel you can actually get work done and close deals at ASIS with endusers whereas ISC is just too overwhelming with too many people, vendors, and distractions for real business to get done with end users. As an integrator unless you’re entertaining end users at ASIS or doing business off the floor I don’t know why you would come.

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a lot of the vendors had hospitality suites in the floors above for private demos

Same thing as ISC West and many shows. For example, ISC West has a hundred or so meeting rooms around the corner from the show floor and then many more on the 3rd or the 4th floor of the Venetian hotel, etc.

the floor demo is just the bait to get end users

Many may treat it that way but the floor demo booths would then be very very expensive bait. Even the smallest booths are paying $10,000+ all-in.

I feel you can actually get work done and close deals at ASIS with endusers whereas ISC is just too overwhelming with too many people

That's totally reasonable. I don't know the split between those that are there to close deals vs those that are there for looking for information, new things, etc., but it does feel to me that the later is pretty high.

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ASIS CEO interview discussing the show and the schedule change.

Interestingly, he notes education attendance under 4,000 people, which reinforces that clear majority are exhibit only attendees. While ASIS does not clearly report attendance nor splits, compared to the last audit we found (for 2012), this means education / conference attendance is down:

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The 2020 show floorplan is now live and it looks to be smaller than 2019:

Notable booth placement: Axis and Hikvision side by side but the Axis booth more than 3x Hikvision's size:

Dahua is not shown on the floorplan as of now but could renew later.

One notable company exhibiting next year who skipped this year is Panasonic, next to Hanwha:

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ASIS has released a marketing video for the 2020 Atlanta show:

They market it as a 'one-stop shop':

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What's going to be the theme next year? 1970's? 1990's?

Lemme know when we get to 1960's. That could be an interesting show.

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They market it as a 'one-stop shop':

Should call it the "One Day Show". "Get in, and get out! See everything in just 5 hours!".

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No Galaxy Control Systems booth next year....Tried to downsize this year to a 10x20 vs a 20x20 and was told that I needed to pay an extra $10k to downsize!! So next year I'll just save all the money and not attend.

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ASIS booths (colored purple in the image above) look to be almost 1/4 of the total show floor space.

Based on pics from this year, that X Stage section could be a lot smaller. Maybe just put it in one of the unsold 10x10's.

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MAGA... Make ASIS Great Again

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MGAA... Make GSX ASIS Again

(Relevant link: ASIS Dumps 'ASIS' For Show, Now GSX)

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MGGA

Make GSX Go Away

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Got home from GSX last night. We don’t exhibit at this show but set up multiple meetings with partners and customers.

Can I nominate Umbo for excellence in marketing hyperbole? They made a compelling pitch for their light based machine learning system. Despite 20 years in the business, it only hit me a few hours later that all cameras use light. Hilarious.

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Isn't Light just the name of their machine learning system? Are you sure they meant light as in visual light?

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Hi UI6. You're right; when you actually read the brochures, that is how they read.

But walking into the booth "light" and "machine learning" created an impression that they were using light in an innovative, new way.

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Knightscope dropped out this year, after praising GSX last year as 'an optimal place'. The company has struggled with gaining customers and more funding. However, Knightscope's EVP Stacy Dean Stephens spoke on a panel explaining their problems getting customers:

The person on the right is CEO of Cobalt Robotics who does not look to agree with Knightscope's take here.

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Knightscope's EVP Stacy Dean Stephens

Who???

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A bad traffic report from trade magazine Security Today:

On the one hand, ASIS will not be happy to see a media 'partner' say the obvious criticize them.

On the other hand, ASIS has to be happy he used a 1980's reference for the title, right?

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Another bad traffic report, this time from SSI, who called out the problems but spun it more optimistically:

Any security professional who has regularly attended this conference — now in its 65th year — in recent time is well aware that exhibit hall aisles become lightly plied after a first day rush. By the third day, mostly, it can seem like only company representatives are holding sway in booth spaces. Attendees have either split the scene altogether or are elsewhere, such as educational sessions or other event activities.

Generally — although there certainly were a handful of vendors that appeared to enjoy robust attendee engagement well beyond the first day — the 2019 installment trended similarly to previous years. Several vendors we spoke with lamented the diminishing foot traffic, but also expressed the GSX exhibition remains an important venue to tell their story to the North American marketplace and globally. Read: The show remains vital for competitors to be heard and seen, but there are real concerns to be addressed. [emphasis added]

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Security Today has another GSX post with a mix of negative and positive comments. He starts with a backhanded compliment:

By and large, the GSX experience was good. There were a few hick-ups here and there, but overall GSX seems to be a nice regional tradeshow. [emphasis added]

In fairness, if you consider ASIS to be regional, rather than international, as they market, it is nice.

He concludes optimistically:

I know the ASIS staff is working diligently to make this a better experience; one that will bring the crowds back to the tradeshow floor. There was a positive vibe on the Chicago GSX floor. Let's hope it carries over to Atlanta. [emphasis added]

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There was a positive vibe on the Chicago GSX floor.

Yeah, on the 3rd day, and the vibe was "my flight leaves in just 2 hours!".

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Update: ASIS published a press release saying total 'registrants' was 20,000, same as they reported in 2018. Worth keeping in mind, the 20,000 figure is not the total of who actually attended but just those who registered online, including for free.

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The value of the show floor is more a function of the exhibitors than ASIS (or ISC West for that matter) in my opinion. The population on the floor is also a function of how the previous year unfolded. My perception was that there was less excitement, people and exhibitors on the floor that last year.

In any event, many ASIS attendees are there for their CPE credits. The show floor is not their primary objective but rather something to fill in time between sessions. I heard mixed reviews about the speaker sessions and that is 100 percent on ASIS. They are an educational organization and have to read their members and choose speakers carefully. Comments like the speakers being perceived as just marketing their products are not good.

I would like to see more attention to the education sessions. It would be nice if the buzz on the floor was more about a cool thing they just learned than about the industry party later that night, booth size or where is the best swag ;)

Still very glad I went. Met some great folks as always and came away with some great ideas.

rbl

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I was only able to attend the exhibit hall for half a day and appreciated that there were not throngs of people to fight through and that I could have a meaningful conversation with a lot of reps who were stretched thin at ISC West-Vegas. It was noticeably more spread out with wider halls ect which may contribute to the low attendance perceptions, in addition to numbers.

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That’s the real benefit. The show may get smaller but it’s not going away, low attendance is a boon for those actually trying to get some work done.

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Jason, the problem is that the exhibitors subsidize not only the entire show but ASIS as an organization, so exhibit space declining puts significant pressure throughout.

Overall ASIS breaks even or loses money but the conferences (specifically this main one) generates ~$5 million in profits (see below the Conferences are only 35% of their costs but 53% of their profits):

ASIS loses money on publishing, education, certification programs, etc. (shown above) but makes that up from the conferences. And the lion share of their conference revenue comes from the manufacturers, ergo why this is such a sensitive and important issue for them.

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I disagree strongly with this.

Manufacturers are continually hit up for sponsorships, exhibit money, advertising dollars, etc. And if you are successful getting your brand built up, then you get integrators telling you they need "just another 5 points" on your product, and publications wanting you to both write the content AND pay to get it run. It gets tiring after a while.

Speaking with executives at various manufacturers, you start to hear that many are reevaluating marketing spend in general, particularly on the multiple US shows.

The declining attendance is NOT good, it is not a benefit. Low attendance just feeds a slow death spiral. ASIS needs to the make the GSX show profitable and valuable for exhibitors, and not just a rich uncle that pays for the rest of their operation.

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Overall very true and on point. However, some of the pictures taken were next to the entrances and not really between the booths to show the real traffic.

As well as one of the empty booths shown was at the very end of the show floor.

Overall accurate, but some of the pics a bit misleading.

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Overall very true and on point. However, some of the pictures taken were next to the entrances and not really between the booths to show the real traffic.

As well as one of the empty booths shown was at the very end of the show floor.

Overall accurate, but some of the pics a bit misleading.

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I was really disappointed with the show this year. There really wasn't much to look at as far as technology. Lenel was there but not on the floor. Way down the hall and around the corner on the first level. If you didn't know the shortcut down the escalators it was a long and daunting walk.

I talked with another manufacturer, name I won't say, but said they most likely won't be back next year. Not enough foot traffic.

There wasn't too many places to sit down inside the area unless you walked all the way to the back where the mini stages were. Even then those chairs were uncomfortable.

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Some observations:

- show floor busy on Tuesday. Lackluster on Wednesday. Didn't attend Thursday

- food options for lunch were half decent. Better than last year.

- Monday seminars well attended (standing room only in most cases)

- spoke to many who complained about expensive accommodations in Chicago.

- customer appreciation parties seemed to have been scaled way back vs last year in vegas.

- couldn't get a sales rep to speak to me at the axis booth with little customers alongside me - lots of sales reps but they were all too busy speaking to each other, really disappointing. Looked as if they had all checked out. (Wednesday afternoon)

- Hanwha presented well. New multi-imager with PTZ capabilities is intriguing.

- Genetec booth always busy when I walked by

- Shuttles were fast. Express busway from DT had us there in minutes

- Wifi slow to non-existent

- 80s party was odd. Doesn't cater to the younger audience ASIS badly needs. Get with the times. I have little interest in packing costumes for business trips. They have all of chicago to throw their once-a-year presidents' reception and they picked the empty side of the conference centre? 2017 was at cowboys stadium, 2018 at drais rooftop....2019 in an empty conference room. Boring.

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80s party was odd. Doesn't cater to the younger audience ASIS badly needs

In fairness, for ASIS standards, people in their 40s and 50s are relatively young.

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Great post. Appreciate the excellent coverage and overview.

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