Axis vs Sony Super Size Shootout (Q1659 vs SNC-VB770)

Author: Ethan Ace, Published on Sep 11, 2017

Super low light, super sized sensor cameras are a growing trend. In the past year, 2 of the most notable entrants for these IP cameras have been Axis and Sony.

IPVM has individually tested the Axis Q1659 and tested the Sony SNC-VB770.

Now, we are pitting the 2 cameras against each other, as shown below:

We shot these cameras out, testing:

  • Daytime image quality
  • Low light (<1lx) image quality
  • VMS support
  • Multi-streaming support
  • Bandwidth/smart codecs
  • Camera application support

***** *** *****, ***** ***** ****** ******* *** * ******* trend. ** *** **** ****, * ** *** **** ******* entrants *** ***** ** ******* **** **** **** *** ****.

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  • *** *******
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Executive *******

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***** ******* *** ***** *********** ** *** *** ******, *** Sony ***-***** ** * ****** ****** **** *** **** *****.

*******, ** *** ***** *** ******** ***** **** ********, *** Axis ***** *** ******* ********** ********* ******** ********* ** ******* at ****** ****** ** **** ** ***** ******, **** ***** bitrates ** **** ****** (******* * ~**** ******** ** **********).

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Physical ********

**** *** **** ***** *** **** *** *** **** ****** than ******* *** *******. *** ***** ** ******** ********, *** longer **** *** *****, ****** ** ********** ****** *******. **** that **** **** *** **** ********* ****** ******* ******** *** these *******, ** ******* *** ****** ******** *** *** *** the ****** *** **** ** **** * ***** ****** ***** window ** *** *** ****** ***** ** ****.

*** **** ***** ** *** ***** ******** ******* ******** *** Ethernet, *****, ** ****, *****, ***. *** **** ******* ******** is ** *** (***** **** ****** *********) **** ***** *** be **** *** ***** ***********.

Sony ****** ******

*** ***** **** * ****** **** ****** **** *** ****' APS-C, ********** *** ** ***** **** ** *** ****** *** light ***********. *** *** *** ***** ***** **** ** ****.

20MP **. **

*** **** ***** ******* ** *********/****, **. ** ** *** VB770. **** ******* ** ~*,*** ********** ****** ************, ** **** as * ****** *:* ****** ***** ***** *** ****** *** some ****** **** *** ***** **:* *****. **** **** *** Q1659 ** **** ******* ** ****, ** ** *** *****.

Full ***** *********** *******

** ****** ******* *********** ** ** ******* ******* ***/***** *****, shown *****:

** ** ******* ******* **** *****, *** ***** ******** ***** quality ******* ** *** ***** ** * ~**' ***** ** view, ***** *****. *** ***** *** ******** **** *****, **** less ********/***** *********, *** ******* ******* *** *********** *** ****, despite * ~** *** ********* ** *** *****.

** ****** ******** (~***'/~***' ****), *** ***** ******** * ******** increase ** ******* ******** ** *** *****, **** *** ******* slightly *******, *** **** ******* ** **** *, **. **** a ****** ******* ******* **** ** *** *****.

Daytime **** *******: **** *********

****** ** * **** ************ **** *****, *** ***** ******** noticeable ******** ** ******* *********. *** *******, ******* ****** **** clearly ******* ** **** ** *** ****** ** *** ************ in *** *****, *** ***** ** *** *****. ** **** longer ***** (~***'), * ****** ** ******* ******* ** *** Q1659, **** ***** ******, *** ****** ** **** ** *** VB770, ***** ******* ********** ***********.

*ony ****** *** ***** ***********

** *** *****, *** ***-***** *** **** ******** ** ********* scenes **** *** **** *****. *** *******, ** ***** **** no ******** ******** (~*.** ***), *** ***-***** ******** ****** ******* of *** ******* ** **** ** * ******* ***** ** the **** *****, ***** *** ***** ******** **** *********, ** details.

*******, ** ~**', *** ***-***** ******** ********* ** *** ******* while *** ** ****** **** ******* *****/********** ** *** *****.

Both ******* ****** **** ******* ***** *** *****

***** *** ***** ******** ***** ** *** ***** **** *** Sony *****, *** **** ** ** ******** ** ******* ***** low ***** ******, **** ***** */*" *******. *** *******, *** image ***** **** ******** **** **** ***** ** *** **** Q1659 *** **** ***** ******* */*" *** */*" ***** *** light ******.

******** *** ******* ******* ** **** *** **** *** **** models **** ***** ******* ** *** *****, *** ** ******* or ********* ** *** ******** ***** *** ***** *****.

Axis ****** ************

*** ***** ** ******* ** ******* **** **** ****** ************ (ACAP) ** *****, **** ********* ************************ *********. *** ***** **** **** ** ********** **** *** **** Guard ***** (***** *****, ****** *****, ***.) **** ******** ** updated ** *.**+ ** *** **** *** ******. *** ***-***** includes ****'* **** ******** ********* (*** *** ****) *** ***** ************ ****** ** *****.

Bandwidth **********

******* ** *** ********* ** *********, *** *****'* ******** **** lower ** *** ****** ****** ********* ***** **** *** ***-*****, despite *** **** ****** ***** *****. **** **** ******-***** **** *** *** * **** *** **************, *** ******* **** ******/*** ********, **** ** **** ******* of ***********. **** **** **** * ****** ******* ** ** Mb/s *** *** ** ** **/* ***** ** *************** **** Sony.

VMS/Multistreaming *******

*****-********* *** ****** **** ******** ******* ******, *****, ******* ******** Center, *** ********* ********.

*** ***** ********* ** ***** *** ******* ** **** ***** tested (*** *** ********), *** ** **** ** * *.*** streams ** ******* (***** *****) *** *********. *** ***** ******** up ** **** *******, *** *** ******* ******, **** ***** and ********* ****** *** ****, *** ******* *** ******** **** integrating *** **** ******. ********* ** * ******* ** ** FPS ** *** ** ******. ******* *** ** ******* **** this ********* ** ****.

*** **** ******* ** ********* ** *****-****** *******, *** *** individual ***** ** ******* ************ *****.

Test **********

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Comments (23)

Michael Miller

09/11/17 02:58pm

*** ****** **** *** ******** ** *** ****** ****'* ******** in **** ****? **'* ************* ******* **** ****** ****** *** delivers ******* ***********.

John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Michael Miller | 09/11/17 03:02pm

** ******* ****** ******* ***** ******* *** ******** ** *** ****** ****.

Undisclosed Manufacturer #6

In reply to John Honovich | 09/14/17 01:00am

**** *** **** ****:

"

Further ******* ****** **

** **** ** **** *** ***** ****** **. *********** ***** format ****** **** ********, ****, ***. ** ******** *****."

Undisclosed Manufacturer #1

09/11/17 03:26pm

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John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Undisclosed Manufacturer #1 | 09/11/17 03:38pm

* ** ** ** **.....***? ...**** **** ** ***** ***** ** *** ***** ********** ******* the ***** ****** ***** *** *** ******* ***.

****'* ** ********** **********. **** ** ***** ******* *** *** respective ************'* ******* *** *********.

***** **** ******* **** ******* ***** ******* *** ******* ******.

Undisclosed #2

09/11/17 03:34pm

**** ******* ** *** *****, **** ******* ***** ** ****? If *** ********* **** ** ******** *****, ***** *** *** repeat ********.

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Ethan Ace

IPVM | 09/11/17 04:25pm

** *** *****, */*** (****) ******* ** ****. **'* ********* always ****, ****** ********* *********.

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Undisclosed Manufacturer #3

09/11/17 04:27pm

*** ** *********** **********, *** *** *** *** **** *** Sony ** ** ****** **** *** **** ********** ** *** 20MP ** *** **** ? **** ****** ***** *** ******** results.

** ***** **** ********** ** **** ** *** **** ********** 4K *** **** ** *** ********** *******.

********* ** *** *** ******* **** *******, ** *** ** more ********** ** ******* *** **** ***** ** *** **** VM772R **** ******.
**** **** **** ******* ******* * *******, *** **** * as *** ****** ** *** ******.

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Ethan Ace

IPVM | In reply to Undisclosed Manufacturer #3 | 09/11/17 04:56pm

*** ** *********** **********, *** *** *** *** **** *** Sony ** ** ****** **** *** **** ********** ** *** 20MP ** *** **** ? **** ****** ***** *** ******** results.

********* ** *** *** ******* **** *******, ** *** ** more ********** ** ******* *** **** ***** ** *** **** VM772R **** ******.

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Franky Lam

RICOH (HONG KONG) LTD | In reply to Undisclosed Manufacturer #3 | 09/12/17 02:39am

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Undisclosed #4

09/12/17 02:35am

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Undisclosed #5

09/12/17 08:49pm

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james cordell

IPVMU Certified | 09/13/17 03:15pm

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Jordi Ibero

09/13/17 07:02pm

*** ***** ******* **** *** **** *****. *** ******. ** VMS ******* ** ******* **** **** * ** * ***** at *** **** ****.

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Michael Miller

In reply to Jordi Ibero | 09/14/17 07:49pm

* **** **** **** *** ******** *** *******. * **** have ********* **** **+ ******** *** ******* *** * **** no ****** ********* *** ** **** ** *** **** **** on ** ******* ***. * **** **** *** **** ****** but ******* *****-******* *** *** **** ** ********* *** *** streams **** **** ** * ****** ** ******* ******** ******* on *** ******.

Undisclosed Manufacturer #8

In reply to Jordi Ibero | 09/15/17 07:54pm

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Undisclosed #4

In reply to Undisclosed Manufacturer #8 | 09/15/17 09:57pm

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***** **** ** ** ~******* ********** *** ******?

**** ***** * ******* ** * ** ******** ** *** client, **** *** ***** ****?

Undisclosed Integrator #7

09/14/17 07:35pm

**** **** ****** ********* **** *** ******** *** **** ** cameras *** ***** **** ** **** *** ******* ******** (**** In ******) ******** ** *** **** *** ****.

*** ****** ** ****?

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Ethan Ace

IPVM | In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #7 | 09/15/17 03:42pm

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Undisclosed #4

In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #7 | 09/15/17 10:01pm

...******* ******** (**** ** ******)...

*** ***** ********** ** ******** (**** ** *******) ****?

james cordell

IPVMU Certified | 09/15/17 08:02pm

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Chris Chambers

03/16/19 02:01am

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Michael Miller

In reply to Chris Chambers | 03/16/19 02:18am

********'* ** ***-* *** ****** ** $** ******* * ****.

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