Avigilon Announces RADAR-Based Presence Detector

Published Jun 22, 2017 16:44 PM

RADAR is gaining momentum within physical security. Two months after Axis announced a network radar detector, Avigilon has announced a RADAR-Based Presence Detector.

We analyze Avigilon's latest product, and compare it to Axis' Network Radar Detector, basic VMD, and burglar alarm motion detectors in this report.

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Comments (18)
UM
Undisclosed Manufacturer #1
Jun 23, 2017

I don't see 30ft as being very useful at all. Depends on reliability, but it's not groundbreaking. Problem with these microwave and radar type products is they either cover a lot of area for a very lot of money, or they cover very little to be practical for what I think most people are looking for: parking lot sized areas.

But prices are coming down and some of the product manufacturers seem to be releasing smaller range products that are closer to practical budgets.

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Brian Karas
Jun 23, 2017
IPVM

Keep in mind it is an indoor-only unit, so 30ft distance can cover a lot of area in that application. For outdoor applications, I agree that longer range / better pricing, is needed to make these radar units practical

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UM
Undisclosed Manufacturer #1
Jun 23, 2017

Keep in mind it is an indoor-only unit, so 30ft distance can cover a lot of area in that application.

Yes, then it's a matter of how much is the cost and then how does it compare performance wise to similar priced products like PIR and microwave technologies.

 

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Michael Miller
Jun 23, 2017

The issue Avigilon faces is getting people to understand how this sensor is different then PIR and Microwave sensors.     

PIR and Microwave will detect when someone moves in the space but don't do well when a person stands still or lays down.   This is what the Avigilon sensor is designed to do. To detect when a person is present even if they are not moving.  Obviously, this will be popular for banks and I see a lot of uses for this unit in health care.   

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Brian Karas
Jun 23, 2017
IPVM

As I mentioned at the end of the report, it is different than PIR or microwave motion detectors. Those are good, and probably more than adequate, if you want alerts on macro activity in an area. But if a person enters and area and stops moving, those sensors will stop alerting. This Avigilon sensor had the claimed ability to know if a person is present even if they stop moving, which PIRs, and even most video analytics, cannot deliver.

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UM
Undisclosed Manufacturer #1
Jun 23, 2017

Thanks for the clarification, that was a misunderstanding on my part, and re-affirms Micheal Miller's point.

UM
Undisclosed Manufacturer #2
Jun 24, 2017

It could also detect persons trying to get locked in to a premises by hiding somewhere like a toilet cubicle, it could detect persons in fitting rooms or anywhere where deploying a camera is unethical yet the presence of persons whether moving or stationary is required. During IFSEC 2017 a lot of other suggestions from very reputable SI's and Consultants etc were made. This little product will have a great future.

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Brian Karas
Jun 25, 2017
IPVM

It could also detect persons trying to get locked in to a premises by hiding somewhere like a toilet cubicle, it could detect persons in fitting rooms or anywhere where deploying a camera is unethical yet the presence of persons whether moving or stationary is required.

Much of the applicability there will depend on how well you can define the coverage area of the unit. Because it goes through walls, unlike a traditional motion detector, and also has no way to define specific coverage areas, like a video analytics tripwire or region, it could be difficult to ensure you don't get false alarms outside of your intended coverage zone.

UM
Undisclosed Manufacturer #2
Sep 29, 2017

There are several ways in which the radar 'cone' can be adjusted to reduce the chance of false positives. It is still early days but i'm sure we will find out first hand where it works and where it proves more of a challenge to make it work. 

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guy fauquembergue
Jun 25, 2017

Well, I believe that motion detection with image analytics should be the solution. I have done some tests with images captured by ip camera and the clarifai service can detect human body on grayscale pictures. I have tried other services and they are not that good they are ok if the human body is clearly on the foreground but they are not recognizing human shapes on the background Clarifai does. More pilot test should be done to evaluate the success rate since the server is also learning. Best regards. Guy Fauquembergue.

UM
Undisclosed Manufacturer #2
Sep 29, 2017

This product is especially introduced to detect a person or persons where no video can be deployed. Although it currently cannot differentiate between one or multiple persons present I am sure that further development will address this.  

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Brian Karas
Sep 29, 2017
IPVM

UPDATE - Avigilon has released pricing:

Pricing

MSRP for the Presence Detector is $850. Standard Avigilon dealer discounts apply.

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Marcus Johnson
Jun 24, 2020

Has there been any further development where individuals can be identified. We are looking into this as a possible solution which provides the intelligence for space occupancy. Many of our clients returning to the workspace soon are looking for ways to monitor spaces and their occupancy. Coupling this possible feature with an access control system to disable a card reader if the occupancy of a space is reached is a valuable solution.

Has anyone deployed this detector or others to reach this capability?

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Michael Miller
Jun 24, 2020

I would look at the COVID tools Avigilon released which use the cameras to count occupancy levels, detect masks and monitor social distancing.

Presence Sensor will tell you if a human is present but it can't tell you how many people are present.

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Marcus Johnson
Jun 24, 2020

Michael: Thank you for the update. We are specifically looking into deploying a solution for bathrooms which exclude the other visual options. We were looking at coupling the detector with the existing Keyscan ACS to achieve the effect. We will keep looking for a possible solution.

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Michael Miller
Jun 24, 2020

This unit will tell you if someone is in the bath room but that is it.

If it’s for a bathroom you could look at LiDAR sensor.

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Undisclosed #3
Jun 24, 2020

Look into Density as an option for detecting people entering/exiting a space (and thus determining occupancy) in an anonymous manner. Not affiliated with them at all, but that's what they do and they do it pretty well.

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Andy Newbom
Jun 24, 2020
Arxys

Interesting competition to the SICK brand LIDAR type sensors which are amazingly accurate and flexible. BUT of course cost more, although they have one that seems to do pretty much what this one does for less than $450.

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