Avigilon "Probably Going To Zero Within The Next Two Years" Charges Analyst
Author: John Honovich, Published on May 18, 2016Login to read this IPVM report.
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Comments (32)
Jeremy Ellis
I'll buy at zero!
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Eddie Perry
I think she is wrong, Hikvigilon is going to crush the market with their new low cost cameras and rich software packages coming out after they get bought out. wont go to zero though..... question should be how much hikvision is going to offer them. I say $500
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Undisclosed Integrator #1
Yes, highly disagree with zero, they have too much substance for that, so the BoD would revolt and force a sales before that.
However, they are beginning to sound a lot of what I hear about the decline of Pelco, someone who once was seen as a leader, rested on their laurels, mixed with some degree of arrogance and entitlement.
Sad, because once the market starts realizing Hikvision "has no clothes on" and they possibly carry more baggage than benefits, Avigilon could release a few low cost products that might have saved the mid to upper end of the business from itself.
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Undisclosed Integrator #2
Hard to say, but based on the reviews I scanned thru, sounds like its ran by a bunch of schmucks, and this analyst could be very well right.
I would never buy or sell avigilon just because I don't like to deal with companies who have an internal circus as bad as avigilon.
Seriously- bragging about a personal wardrobe. That screams narssacist! That investor had to be severely disgusted and banging his head against the wall.
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Undisclosed Integrator #3
Avigilon is a company with some really good products and some really good people. A few top level changes, some stable leadership, and corporate communications that won't piss off the investment community, and they could really be a great company or addition to an existing company. They have some image issues because of a small minority of people that have worked at various levels of the business.
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Undisclosed Manufacturer #4
Looks like a prime target for acquisition - good products, crappy people.
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Undisclosed Manufacturer #5
Yeah, the overall culture there seems to be the main cause of all of their issues, and that comes from the top. A few years ago I was interviewing and near the offer stage with Avigilon and my current company, and I specifically chose not to go to Avigilon even though their technology is pretty cool and they offered more money. It came down to their attitude and how they treat people, which was the exact opposite of my current company. It's really, really hard to change the culture of a company (for the better) once it is set, let alone if the leadership doesn't even want to change it. I've met amazing people that worked at Avigilon, but they almost all leave because of the environment.
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Undisclosed Integrator #6
My experience with Avigilon is that of arrogance and aloofness. Some of their "senior" sales people really need to go back to Sales 101 class and re-learn how to listen to customers and not go off on their own feature-dumps or catch up with their other Avigilon buddies and their sales stories while in a meeting with a client.
In one meeting (we are an OEM/integrator client) I recall trying to ask a question about a specific application for a client and really couldn't get a word in edge-wise --- they brought something like 6 people to our office who gaggled amongst themselves like little kids who just got back to school after Labor day and had to catch up on everything.
I had to walk-out of the meeting and leave our other folks in there with them since I had specifically carved out some time in an already busy schedule to present what I thought could be a joint business opportunity.
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Undisclosed Integrator #7
Avigilon has a good VMS. I won't go so far as to say they have great cameras because of the price. We are an avigilon dealer and we've stopped using their cameras unless something really demands a complete end to end solution. FWIW Exacq's VMS plays better as an open solution and their access control product is only half baked.
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Undisclosed #8
Though I bet he's wide awake at three in the morning...
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Undisclosed #8
It's all just a Barduan Conspiracy, according to the peanut gallery
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Michael Miller
This is correct. Those of you having issues with pricing should look at the latest pricelist as Avigilon has significantly dropped the pricing on H3 cameras.
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Michael Miller
Undisclosed 7 Integrator: You might what to get the new pricelist as the H3 cameras are not $100 but they way closer than they used to be.
I just don't understand why it's so hard to sell Avigilon's end-to-end solutions. The advanced search features (pixel and classified object search), easy of install and maintenance plus the 3 year advanced replacement warranty make it easy IMHO.
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Undisclosed Manufacturer #11
"Avigilon is completely incapable of handling criticisms"
Worked for Dedicated Micros.
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Undisclosed Manufacturer #12
Avigilon hires new VP of Investor Relations. Ground work?
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