Anixter / Bosch Sells Direct to Amazon

Author: Brian Karas, Published on Jan 18, 2017

Anixter regularly says they do not sell direct to end users or that they do not do it anymore. However, over the past year, Anixter has sold Bosch video surveillance products direct to Amazon for Amazon's internal facilities, IPVM has learned.

Inside this post, we examine what is happening and the concerns the move brings, especially in light of Anixter's ongoing practice of selling direct.

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Comments (74)

Undisclosed Integrator #1

01/18/17 03:13pm

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Michael Miller

01/18/17 03:24pm

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Brian Karas

IPVM | In reply to Michael Miller | 01/18/17 05:12pm

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Undisclosed Integrator #8

In reply to Brian Karas | 01/19/17 01:54pm

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John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #8 | 01/19/17 01:57pm

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Cliff Ziegler

01/18/17 04:14pm

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Undisclosed Integrator #2

In reply to Cliff Ziegler | 01/18/17 04:20pm

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John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Cliff Ziegler | 01/18/17 05:18pm

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Undisclosed Integrator #11

In reply to Cliff Ziegler | 01/19/17 04:39pm

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Keefe Lovgren

IPVMU Certified | 01/18/17 05:43pm

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Steven Burman

In reply to Keefe Lovgren | 03/28/17 03:54pm

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Undisclosed Manufacturer #3

01/18/17 06:01pm

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John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Undisclosed Manufacturer #3 | 01/18/17 06:29pm

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Undisclosed Manufacturer #3

In reply to John Honovich | 01/18/17 07:36pm

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Brian Karas

IPVM | In reply to Undisclosed Manufacturer #3 | 01/18/17 07:55pm

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Luis Carmona

IPVMU Certified | In reply to Brian Karas | 01/18/17 08:39pm

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John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Undisclosed Manufacturer #3 | 01/18/17 07:58pm

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Undisclosed Manufacturer #3

In reply to John Honovich | 01/18/17 08:04pm

****** **** ** ******** ** *****.

Michael Fusco

In reply to John Honovich | 01/19/17 10:04pm

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Brian Karas

IPVM | In reply to Undisclosed Manufacturer #3 | 01/18/17 06:43pm

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Undisclosed Manufacturer #3

01/18/17 07:44pm

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Brian Karas

IPVM | In reply to Undisclosed Manufacturer #3 | 01/18/17 07:58pm

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Undisclosed Manufacturer #3

In reply to Brian Karas | 01/18/17 08:06pm

*****: **** *** *** *******, *** ******* **** *** **** a *** ** *******.

Brian Karas

IPVM | In reply to Undisclosed Manufacturer #3 | 01/18/17 09:23pm

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Undisclosed Manufacturer #3

In reply to Brian Karas | 01/18/17 09:49pm

*****:

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Marty Calhoun

IPVMU Certified | 01/18/17 08:00pm

*** **** ** **, *** * ******** **** *** *** 'distributors'. **** *** ** ***** ****** ** ** ****** ***** that **** **** ** ** *** ******* ** **** * sale. **** ** **** **** *** ******* **** *** * years ***. *** ***** ****, ** **** *** ***** *** them. * ****** **** **** **** ** ** ******** ******** at *** ** **** ** ****** **** ****, ********* **** thats *******,** ******** ****** ******! (*** **** ****** ****** ******** * presume?)

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Laura Garest

In reply to Marty Calhoun | 01/19/17 06:32pm

*'* ** ***** **** ***'** *** **** ******** *********** **** distributors. ** *** *** *** ******* ***** ********. **** ** us ******** **** ***** ** ***** ***** ** *** *********. I **** ****** *** *** **** *********** ****** ** *****. Over ***** ***** *'** **** *** ***** & ***** ******** come *** **, *** * **** ************ **** *********** **** I ***** ***** *** ****. ** ** *********** **** **** of *** *** ************ ** *** ****** ****** ** ******** business ********* *** **** ** *** * *** ***.

Marty Calhoun

IPVMU Certified | In reply to Laura Garest | 01/19/17 08:59pm

***** *** *** ****** ** ****, ** *** **** **** working **** *** *****, ****, ***** *** ** **** (*** quite * *** ****** ** ****) ** * ********* **** security ********?

Laura Garest

In reply to Marty Calhoun | 01/19/17 10:31pm

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Undisclosed Integrator #5

01/18/17 09:06pm

**** *** ** ** *** ****. ** *** ***** **** money **** *******, ***-**, ****-****, *****, ** *** ** ***** other ******, *** *** ********* ****** ***** ** **** **********.

**'* **** *** ********.

Jon Dillabaugh

Pro Focus LLC | 01/18/17 11:16pm

**** ******* ****** * ***** ***** ******** ******* ** *******.

Undisclosed Integrator #2

In reply to Jon Dillabaugh | 01/19/17 12:48am

*** ***, ******'* *** **** ***** ** **** ***** ***? Yes, *** ** * *********** *** *** ** * ************, but *** ***** ** **** ** ******* ** ******* ***** products ******* *******, *****?

****** ***** ** ********* ***** *******

Undisclosed #6

In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #2 | 01/19/17 01:29am

* *** ***** **** ***** **** ****** *** ******.

Undisclosed Integrator #2

In reply to Undisclosed #6 | 01/19/17 01:52am

** *********'* *******, * ***** ***** *** ****** ******** *** targeted ******* *** ******** ******.

Joe Mirolli

IPVMU Certified | 01/19/17 05:04am

* ***** ****** **** **** ******* **** *** ** *********** through ******* **** **** ** ** **** ********.

**** ***** ****, * ***** ** **** *******'* **** ******, but ****'* **** ** ******* ** ** **** *** ******* in. * ***'* ***** **** *** ******* ****** ** * customer **** ** ****** ***'* ******* ***/** ********* ******** *** automated ********* ***** *** **** ******* ****** *** *****. *** last ***** ****** ***** ** ** ** **** **** ****** men ******* *** **** ** *** ****. * **** ***** its ***** *******.

******* ******* ******* ** ********** ********* *** ***** ********* **** and ********** ******* ********** ** * ********* *****.

**** **** ** ** **** **** **** ****'* ****** ***** it. ** *** ** **** ******* ** **** **** **** types, *** * **** *** ******** * ******** **** *** that **** *** *** ** ** **** **** ****** ** end *****. ** ****** **** ********** ****** **** ********* ******* that *** * **** ******* **** **** **** *** **** just **** ** **** ****** **** **.....

******, ** *** **** ******* *** ********* *** ** ***'* buy **** "****" ** *** **** *** ********* **** **** take ***** **** ** ** *** ******* ** ** ********* of *** ********* *********.

*** ******** ****, ** * ************ ******* ** **** ****** to *** *** **** ******* *** ************ ***** ***? *'** be ****** *******, ************* *** *** * ***** ** ***** of *****. *** *** *** *** ****, ********.

Undisclosed Manufacturer #7

01/19/17 11:14am

Published for the 1st time on the same day as IPVM's Bosch/Anixter/Amazon story I believe

John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Undisclosed Manufacturer #7 | 01/19/17 11:34am

#*, *** **** **** *** ****** ** **** *************** ***** ******** ******* ********** ********. *** *** ******** ********* Digital ********** **. ***., ***** ********* ******, ***** ****** ********* products ** * **** ***** ** ***** *** ***** ******* across *** *****. ****, *** **** *** **** ** *** this ******, ***** ** *************** ***** ** ********* ***** *******.

Christopher Reider, CPP

01/19/17 01:57pm

******* ***** ** ***** ** ** **** **** *** **** of ****** ** ** *** ******** **** ***** ******** ** or ********** *********** **** ** ************ ********* *** *** **** how *** ********* ************ ** ******* ***** *** ******* *** system ***********. ** **** **** *** ***** **** **** ** integrator? ** ** ** ****** ** *** ** ** ****** from *** *** **** ********** *** ****** ** *** **** or ********. *** *** ****** ** **** *** *** ** it ********?

John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Christopher Reider, CPP | 01/19/17 02:06pm

*** *** **** *** *** ********* ************ ** ******* ***** own ******* *** ****** ***********.

*****, **'* ******. **** **** **** *** **** *** *** technical ************ ** ******* ***** *** *** ;) ******, ** have ***** ******** ******* **** *** ***** ***** ****** *********** to ** **.

** *******, **** ** ********* ***** **** ********* ******* ********, hardware, ******* *** ******* ******** ******* ** ** **** ********* than ***** ** **-*****.

Undisclosed Integrator #5

In reply to Christopher Reider, CPP | 01/19/17 04:38pm

*** ***** ** **** ******* *** **** ***** ** ********** over *** *****. **** *** **** ** *****'* ****** - or ** *****'* ****** *** **** - *** *****'* **** long **** ** ******** **** **** ***** *******.

**** ** **** ******? *****. ** ****** ***** **. **** the ************ **** ***'** ***** ** **** ***** ***** ******* supporting **. **** *** ********** **** *** **** **** ** buy **** **** **********, **** ****** ***'** ***** ** ** bidding ******* **** ***** ********* ******.

**'* *** *** "**** ** **** ****" *******.

Marty Calhoun

IPVMU Certified | In reply to Christopher Reider, CPP | 01/19/17 09:03pm

***? ******* ***, ******* *** **** ****** ***** ** ** Wholesale **** ********* **** ***** **** ** ****** **** **** not **** * ******** ******* *** ******** ******* *** **** in *** ********** *****, **** ** ******** ** ******* ***** that *** ***'* ** ********* ** ******* ***** **** **** the **** ***** ***** ** *** **** **** ****** $**** ONE ****.

**** ****** *** ** *** ***, ** *******, ** ****, period.

Undisclosed Distributor #9

01/19/17 02:29pm

*'* ******* ** **** **** *** ******* ****** ********** ** integrator ***** ** ******* ** **** ** ********, ** ***** to *** *** ************ *** ******* ********, ** * ********* where * ************ ****** **** * **** **** **** (****** through ************).

******: **** ******* *** **** ***** ** *** *** **********:**** ** *** ******* ****** ********** ** ********** ***** **** For * **** * ************ ****** ** ****?

Buddy Mason

01/19/17 02:35pm

******* ** ***** **** ** ** ***** ***. ** ****** a ****** ******** (**** ** **** **** **** * ******* with) ** ** * ******* *** ***** *** ****** ****** to *** ** *** *** *** ******* ** ** **** time **** ********* *** ******* **** ******* ** * **** low *****. * ****** *** ******* *** ** ****** **** they **** ****** ** *** ******** ****** *** ********, ***** this ** * ******/***** *******. ***** ***** **** *** ******. So ** *** *** **** ***** ***** **** *** ***** of ******* ** **** *** **** *** ***** ** ***** the **** ***** ($*,***,***) ** ****** *** ******* *** ** buildings "*********" *** *** ******* ***** ** ****** **? *** issues **** ** **** ******* ******* ** *** **** ************* with *** **** *********** ** **** ******* ** ***** **** feel ****** ***** ******* ****** ** *** *****. *** ***** issue ** **** **** *** ****** *** ** ****** *** on ** *** **** ******* **** **** *** *** **** surfaces *** ***** ** **** ****** **** *** *** **********. They *** ** *********, **** ** ** ** ********* **** they ***** **** ** *** *** ****. **** * ****** the ******* ** **** ***** ****** ** ****** ** ****** for **, ** ***** ****** ** ******. ********* **** **** never *** ** *********** *******, *** ****** ******* ** **** margin ** *** *** ****. ** *** **** **** ***** weeks *** ***** *** ******* **** ** **** ** **** they *** ** *** ** ***** **** ** *** ** make ** *****...*** * **** **** *******. * ****** *** manufacturer *** ** ****** *** **** ******* *** **** * long ************ **** **** **** **** **** ** ***** ********** with ******* ** *** *** **** *******. *** ** **** say **** ***'* **** * **** *** **** **** ***** product ***** *********** **** ** ** ** *** ******** *** change ** ** * ********* *******, ***** ********* ** **** to ** ** **** *** *****. *** ** ****** *** customer ******* ***** **** ** ****** ** ****** *** * speaker/clock.

Undisclosed #6

In reply to Buddy Mason | 01/21/17 03:29pm

**** *** **** ********, ** *** **** *** *** *******?

Undisclosed Integrator #10

01/19/17 04:23pm

**** * *** ****** *** * ****** * ******* ***** Anixter *** ***** ******* * * ****** **** **** *** company *** *** * *** ****** *** ** *** ** buy **** ******* ****. * *** **** ********** ** **** deal ** ****. ***** *** ****. **** ******* **** *** onion *** *** **** **** ****. **** **** ********* ******** back ** ** ******** *** *******. ******* ***** ** *** results **** **** ****** ** ***** *** ******** **** *******. We ** *********** **** ** ********* ****** ***** *** ** is **** *** ********** *******. ** *** ******** ** *** from ******* *** **** *** ***. **** ** **** ******* who ***** ***** ****. *** **** ******* ****.

*** **** **** *** *****. **** ***** ****** **** ** take *** * ****** **** ** ************ ********** ******** ***** dealer ****** ***** *** ****** **** ******* ******** ************. **** in **** ***** *** ******* ** ** ************ *** ** untrained ************* ****** ** *** **** *********. *** *** *** sharing **** ******* (****** *** **** **) **** ***** ******* by ******.

*** *** $$$ ** **** *****. ***'* ******** ** **** your **** *** **** **** **** **** ********.

Undisclosed Integrator #12

01/19/17 05:07pm

** **** **** ********** ******* *** **** ***** (**+) *** we ******** **** $** ******** **** *******'* ***********. **** *** last ** *****, *** ********* *** **** ** ****** ** $50M! ***** *** ***** ******/******* **** ******* *** **** **** stupid ********* **** **** ***, *** **** ** ********* ** a $*** ***********.

*** ** *** **** *** (*) **********.

** *** ** **** ******* *** ***** ***** ** ********** Anixter, **% (=**) ** *** ********* *** *** "*******" ** take **% ** *** ****** = $** ******** * ** and **** ** * $*** ****** **** **** **** **** responders!

*** ******* ****** ** *** **** ******; *** ******** *** buys ** **** ** * ****** ********* **** *******, **** be ******* ** ************ ****** ********* ***********.

*** ******* **** "** ***'* ** **** *******" ** "** have ******* ******* ******" ** ** *** **** **** ********, we **** ***** ******. ******* **** ***** **** *** *********** are *** ***** ****** ** **** ** ***********.

****** ******* ** ******** *** ***** ** **********'* *********... *** is **** ********* ** ******** **** **** ***, *** ***** anyone ** ******** **** *** ******* **** ** ******* ** go ****** **** **** ***, *** **** ******?

*** ******* ********** -

Undisclosed Integrator #11

In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #12 | 01/19/17 05:17pm

******. *********** **** *** *****.

Undisclosed Integrator #13

01/19/17 07:43pm

************ **** *** **** ***** *** **. ********** ** **** means **** *** **** ****** ***** *** *** ******** *** need *** **** *** ***** **** * *********** *****.

*****, * ***** **** *** ***%. * **** **** **** at ******* ************* *** ** *** *** *** *** ***-**/******* for ************ *** *** **** **** *** ****. *****, **********, etc.. * **** *** ********* *** **** *** ** *** industry *** ** ** **** **** **** ******* (***** * do *** ******* ** ** *********) ******* **** **** ** account **** *** ** ***-**/******* *** **** ***** **** ** save ***** ** *** *******. ****, * **** **** ** my ****** *** ** ******* ********* ******** ** *** ******** or ******. * ******* ***** ** ****** ******** *** ***** to ***** **** ********. * **** **** **** ********* ********** in ********** ***** ********* **** ******* ******* ** ** ****** much **** ***** ** ****.

Marty Calhoun

IPVMU Certified | In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #13 | 01/19/17 09:09pm

***** ***, ***** ** * ***** ********** ** **** * distributor ****** *** **** *** *** * **** *** **** an ********** ***** *** **** *** *** *** **** **** them. *** *** *** ********* # * *** ** ******* you ***** *** **** # *.

**** ******* *** *** **** *** ** ******* ******** ** anything *** *** **** *** ***!!

Undisclosed Integrator #14

01/20/17 01:59pm

***** *** * ***** *** * ******** ******** ******** *** at ****** ?

****'** ****** **** * ***** ** ***** ******... :)

John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #14 | 01/20/17 02:02pm

***** *** * ***** *** * ******** ******** ******** *** at ****** ?

******, ******* *** **** *****...

Undisclosed Integrator #2

In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #14 | 01/23/17 02:31pm

** ***** *** **** ***** ** *** ********* ** *** Security ********, **** ** *** ** ********. ***** **** ****** know **** **** *** ***** *** ** ******* **** **** jobs **** *** ****** ********* *** *** ****** ****. ***** left *** ** ******* *** ******* **** ** ***** ****** in *** **** ** *** ****** *** *** *** ****** in ** ***** ************* ********.

Undisclosed Integrator #15

01/21/17 09:14am

**** ** ****, ******* **** **** **** *** **** ***** through ****** ** * ***** ***** *****. **** *** ***** it ***** ****** ******** **** *** ****** **** ** **** as **** *** **'* ***. ** **** **** ******* *** they ******* *** ****** **** *****. **** * ******* ** struggling, *** *** ***** **** ***** **** ***** ** **** the ********* *****. * ******* ****'* **** ***** ** *****.

*****, * ****** **** ***** ** ****. * ******* **** feedback *** * ***** ******* ******** ****** ****** ****** *** fact *** ********** ** ***** ***** *** ************ **** ********* Support. ***** *** ** **** * ***** ***.

* ***** **** ** ***** *** ****.. * **** ***'* see **.

Undisclosed Manufacturer #16

01/23/17 01:48pm

* ****** ***** ******* ** ***** *******, *** ** ***** to ***** ** ****. ***** ** * ***** ********* **** needs ** ** **********, *** **** ** ***** ********' ***** to **** *** **** ********* *** ***** *********, *** ********** their ************. **** ** **** *****/******* *** ***** ****. *** I *** *** *********** ******* **** ************ ********* **** ****** pricing *** ******** *** ***** ******* ** ******** **** **********, and **** ****** ** ********** ** *** ************ **** ******* a ******* **** ****. *** *** ****** **** ***** **** to ****:

*. ************* **** ** ********** ** **** *** ******* ***** market *****. **** *** **** ***** *** ********** ********* (**** many **********) **** ***** * *********** ** ****** **** ************, drop ************* *** ****, ** *** *******'* **** ******* *** user *************, *** **** **** ********?

*. ********** *** ****** *******, *** **** ** ********** ** their ************/********* ** **** *** ******* ***** ****** ***** (* love *****'* ******* ** *** ****** ********). ** * **** in ***** #*, ********** **** ***** **** ******** ************ *** will ******* **** ********* ******* *** ***** ********. **** ** their ***** - *** * ***** ******** ********.

*. ************...... ***, ***, ***. *** ****** *****.

* **** *** ***** *********. ** *** *** ********** ***** selling, ***** ** ***** *** **** **** ***** *** **. There ** * ***** **** **** ***** ** ************. **** Pitt **** "***** ** ***". ************ ***** ******* ****** ***** illustrate **** ********** *** **** ********* ** ******** ** *** business. ***** ***** ** ***** *** ***** *** *** ***** away, ** * *** ** *** ** ** ******* - "adapt ** ***"

Brian Karas

IPVM | In reply to Undisclosed Manufacturer #16 | 01/23/17 01:59pm

***** ** * ***** ********* **** ***** ** ** **********, and **** ** ***** ********' ***** ** **** *** **** decisions *** ***** *********, *** ********** ***** ************.

********* ********, * ***** **** **** *********** *** ** ** a ************ ***** ** **** ******. ****** ***** *** ******* Anixter ******* ******** ******* ****** ** ******, ******* ******** ** very **** ***** *** **** **** ***** ******** *** ********* through ******* ****** ********.

**** *********** ** *** **** ** **** * ************ ** distributor **** "** ******* *** ******* *** ** *** **** direct", *** **** **** ****** *** **** ****** ** ** end-user.

*********** ***** ****** ** ****** *** ***** ************ **** ************* and ************ ***** ** *** ***** ******** **** **** **** operate ***, *** *** **** ****** ** ******* ** *** future. *** **** *********** *** ******* *** **** ** *****, so **** ** **** **** ******** *********** ** ***** ** base ***** ****** **********.

Undisclosed Manufacturer #16

In reply to Brian Karas | 01/23/17 03:02pm

********** ***** ***** - ** **** *** *** *** *** what *** **. ** * ************, * *** ** ********** when ************ **** *** ******* ******* **** *** **** ** to ***** *** ***********. ** * ** *****, * **** often **** ******** ** ******* **.

John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Undisclosed Manufacturer #16 | 01/23/17 02:01pm

#**, ****** *** *** ******** *** *** ********** ********. * agree **** *** **** ***** ******** ****** **** ** ***** and **** *** *** ***** *** **** ********* (******* ** is * ************, ********** ** ***********).

*******, ** *** ***** ***** ** ***** ** ***** ****** partnering / ******** **** **** *****? *** '**********' **** ** happening ** * *** ** '***** *** *** *******', **** once **** ************* ******** '******** *********' (*.*., ****), *********** ******* more ** *** *****, ***.

** ***** ****** ** ***** ******* ******* *** ******* *** trustworthy ************ ******* *************, ************ *** ***********? ********?

Undisclosed Manufacturer #16

In reply to John Honovich | 01/23/17 03:01pm

* ********** ***** **** - **********! * *** **** *** my **** *** * *** ******* **** **** ** **** (I ****** *** **** ****) ****** ************ **** *** *********** & ************, ******* ** *** **** ******* **** ** ******* strong *** ****/*&* ************* ** ****** ** **** * *********** impact ** *** *** *******. * ** ******* *** ***** thing *** *** ********* ** ** ******** ** ******* *** existing ***** - **** ** ** *** *********** **** ** end *****. ** *** ** ** * *** *** ******..... a **** ***********. **** **** *** ************ *** *********** *********, and * ** **** ***** **** ************ ***** ******, ******* it ** *** ************ **** **** ***** ***** *** *********** and ******** *****.

******* ** **** ** *** ********** ********* ** ********* ***** distribution/manufacturers ******* ******, ************* *** **** ** ********* **** ***** is * ***** **** ** "***** ****" ***** ** *** same *********. *** ****** *** **** **** **** ***** ** being *******, *** ** *** **** ** *** ************/*************.

***** ** * ***** *** *** *************, ************ & ***********. Develop ****** ************, ****** * **** ** ****** ******** **** resonates **** **** *******, ****** **** ******* *** ***** *** benefits **** ******* **** ******* ******** *** **** ** ***, support **** *****. ***** *** *** ***** ************, *** **** typically *** *************. ***** *** *** "*****-****" ************, *** *** instability *** ****** **********. * ****** *** ***** ****** .... who ** **** ** :)

Laura Garest

In reply to Undisclosed Manufacturer #16 | 01/23/17 07:03pm

*'* **** *** **#**.

Undisclosed Integrator #11

In reply to Undisclosed Manufacturer #16 | 01/23/17 02:57pm

******** ** *** *****-***** ****** ** "***** ** ***", ******** is *** * ********* ********. ************, ********* *** ********** **** "rules ** *** ****" **** ****** **** ***** ** **** a *** ** *** *** *** ******** ******** ** ** to **** ******* **** ***** ********* ** *** ******** ****** possible.

** * ******* ******** ** *** *** ***** ** ***** and **** *** *** ******* ** ******** ******* ** ** mandated ** ** ** ** *** ************, ****, * **** want ** ** ** ******** **** **** *******. *** ******* should ****** ****.

"********" ** ** ******* ******** *** ***** *** ** *******, but *** ****** ** *******.

John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #11 | 01/23/17 03:09pm

******** ** *** * ********* ********.

* ***** ********* *** ***** ***** **** ****.

* **** **** ** * ******* *****. *** **** ** the ******, ***** *** ******* ************* **** ******, *** ******* this ******* ***** ***** **** *************, ********** ** **** ***** numbers **, ******* **** ***** ********** ********. **** ****. ***** move ** ******** ***** ** * ***** ******** ** ****.

*** ***** *** ** *** ***** ****, ******, ***, ** the **** ****, ** ** ******** ******* *** ********** ** develop ********** *** ******* *********.

******* ** *** *** ***** ** ** ** **** ********, we *** ************ ** **** ********. *****/********?

Undisclosed Integrator #11

In reply to John Honovich | 01/23/17 05:32pm

*****, *** *** **** ****** ********* *** ***** *** ******* the ***** ** ********* **** * **** **** ** ** in ******** ****.

**** ** ********* **** * *** ** ****** ** *** forum ******** **** **** ** ****: ********* ***** *** ** doing **** **** *** ***** ******* *** ******* ** ********* of ***********, ******** ************ *** ******** ************* *** *** ********* as ** ***. * **** * *** ** ***** ***** around **** - *********** ******* *************, ************, *** *** *** being ***** ** ******* - *** *** - ** *** responsible ** **** *** **** *********** ********.

**, ** ** ********, *** ** "**" * **** ***********, manufacturers, *********** *** ************, **** *** ***** ** ********* *** own ********* ****** *** ***********, ***, **********, ** *** ******** that ** **** ***** *** ********* ***** ** *** ******* politburo ** ******* *****, *******, ** *******, ** ***'* **** enough ********** ** *** ***** ** *** *** *** ******** and ******** ** *****, *** *** *** *** ***** **** by ********** **** ***** *** ******** * ********* ** *****-****** anarchy ** ***** ** *** ** * ******** ***** ** dispruption *** **********. ***** ** ** **** ****** ** ****. That **** ***** *** *** ** *** *********** ******** ** we **** **, *** ***** *** *** *** ******* ********* having ** **** **** ****** ****-*-**** *******.

**** * **** ****** ** *** ******** ********** ********** ***** willingness ** "*****" ** ****, ** **** ***** ** *******.

Undisclosed Integrator #17

01/23/17 02:39pm

** * ******** **********, * ** *** **** *** ****, but ** * ******** ******, * ********** ** *** **** we *** ********* ** **** **. * ********* ** **** was **** * ************'* "******** ********" ********'* ********** ***** ********* that ** ********** *** ** **** ****, ***** ** *** experience **** ***** *** ****** ** ** **-******** *** ** priced *** ******** ** **** *****. *****, *** ************* *** moving **** **** *** ************ **** ** *** ******** *** valid *******. **** ** ******** ** ****** **** ** *** fire **** ** *** ********. ** *** ******* ***** ****** to *** *** ****, **** **** *** ******** ***** *** can **** ****** **** ** *** ******* **** ****** **********. I ***'* **** *** ****'* *******, *** ***** ******* ** charged **** ******* ***** ******* ********** *** *******. ****** **** those ****** ** ***** *** ***** *** *********'* ******** **** out. ** **** *** ******* **** ******, *** **** **** of *** ******** ** ******* **** ***********. * ******* **********'* model ***** ******** ** **** ***** ******* - **** ** why ** ********* ** ***. *** *** *** ******* **** you ***** *** *** ** **** ****. ** *********** ** are ********* ** **** *** ********* ** ***** *******. **** we **** ** ** ***** *** ********.

John Williams

In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #17 | 01/23/17 06:33pm

****

John Williams

01/23/17 06:29pm

*** ****** ******* *** ** **** ** **********, ** **** of *** *****, ** ****** *** ********.

**** * **** *********, ** *** *** ****, * **** a ************* ***, **** **** ** ***** **** ****'* **** to *** ****. ** **** ***** *** ***** - ********** getting **** ** ** ******!

*** ******** **** **** *** ****** ****. ***** **** ************ or ********** ***** ********.

Undisclosed Integrator #12

01/23/17 08:40pm

| **** * **** ****** ** *** ******** ********** ********** their *********** ** "*****" ** ****, ** **** ***** ** explode.

*****.... ** **** **** ***** ** ******* **** * **** someone *** "** **** *****"!

** ***** *** *** ******, **** *** *** ********* ***, we ****** *** ** ***** ***** ******** **** ************* *** distributers *** **** **** ****. *** ***** *** ***** **** you ** **!

*********** *** ******; *** ** ** ** ***** ** * Leader ** * ********?

********* ****** ** ** **** ******** *** *** ****** ***** for ***** ******** ** ***** ******** ** ****** ** ***** ******. *********** ***'* ******** ** adapting, ****** ****** *** ********** ****** *** *****, ******* *** obvious ************, **** *** ******* ** *** **** ****!

******** ***** ******** ** **** ** ** *** **** ** the ******, ***** **** ************* *** ************ *** *** ***** own ******* **** ***** **** ********.

**** "*****" ******* ** ****. ** ***'*!

John Williams

In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #12 | 01/23/17 09:37pm

** ********** ** *******: "* **** ****** ** ***** *** to ********** ****** *** ****'* ** *****". ** ******, *'** hired ***** *** **** *** **** ***** ********.

* *** ******* ***** ** **** * ***** * ******* and *****'* * ********** ********** ** **** *******. * ****** for *** ***** ******!

*** ** *******, ***** ***'* ****** *********** *** *** ***** side ** *** ******** ****** ** ***** *** ******** ** the ******, *** ****** ** ****. ** *** **** ***** to ******** ** *****, **'* * **** **** ** *******.

Undisclosed Integrator #17

01/23/17 08:50pm

********** ** *** ********** ** ******** ** ********** ********* *** crowd. ********** ****** ******* ******* ********, **********, *** * *********** to ******.

Undisclosed Integrator #11

01/23/17 09:08pm

******** ** ********** ** ********** ** ******** ****** ** ***** to *******, **?

Undisclosed Integrator #12

01/23/17 09:31pm

** *** *** ******** ** *** **** ****** *******, *****! There ** * *** ********** ******* ******* **** ******** *** profitable ******** ******!

**** ***** *** **** **** ** **** ******** *** * long **** ***** **** **** ***"**** *** *** ** ** ** *** *** ** *** to **"**** *** ******** ** **** **** ******** ** ** *** norm *** ******** ***** ** ******* **** *** ** ***** it! ** (********** *** ********** **) **** **** ***** *** control **** *** *****.

********** ** ***. **, * ***'* ******* **** ** **** to ********** ** ******** ****** ** ***** ** "****" *******.

Jason Brown

01/23/17 10:00pm

**'* ******, ****** ***'* **** *****-**** ******** ** **** ** agreed-upon ****** **** ** ******** ******** ** ******* **********. ** you ***** ******** **** **% ****** **** ***** ***** ** with **** ** *** ***'* **** ** *****, *********, ** warranty *** ********. *** **** **** *** ***** ****** ****** you ***** ** *** *******.

Undisclosed Integrator #12

01/24/17 01:08pm

*********** *** **** ***** ** ****** "***** ****" ******** *** in ****, ************ *** ********** *** ******** ** ****** ***-**** sales ** ************* *** ************. ** **** **** ***** ********* available *** ****, **** **** **** *** ********** ** *** they ***** *** *** **** *** ***** ** ** ***********, and *** **********.

Thank *** **** ******* ************* ***** ***** **** **** ***, ***** *** *************, **** ****** ** *** *****. While these manufacturers continue to promote their brand among end-users and target industries, they always engage a Certified Integrator to quote the technology, infrastructure, installation labor and sell the value in their expertise!

*********** ****** ****** ** ******* **** ****** ** ***-**** *****, thus ****** ** ********** ** **** ************ ***** ************ ********* for ************, *************, *** ********.

***** *** **** ****** ** *** ***, ******'* **** ** these ************ *** ************* ** ********* ******* ***** ********* ************, by ******* ******** ********** ****** ******* *** ****** ******** ******* required? **** ****** ** *** ****** ******* *********** *** ********** to ** ********, *** *** ***** ***** ****, *******?

** *** **** ********** *** ******* **** ********* ** *** law, **** ********** *********** **** ****** ******?

*************, **** *********** *** ******* **** *** ************ *** ************ who ****** ** **** ***-****** ********...

...***** ***** ** **** ******** **** ***** ********* ** *********!

Undisclosed Integrator #14

01/25/17 03:20pm

*'** ****** ******* **** ******* *** "******-***" (*.*. **********) **** the *****, **** ** ****** *** *** ******* *** *** design, ********** *** ******** *** ****** **** ***-*********** ** ******** works ***** ** **** **** ********** *** **** ********* *** any *******. ** ************* **** ** *** **** ******* ***** of **** ** ***-*****, *********** *** ****.

Michael Fusco

In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #14 | 01/25/17 03:27pm

"**** ** ****** *** *** ******* *** *** ******, ********** and ******** *** ******"

****'* *** ********** ** *** **********. *** ********** ******** *** depth ** *********, **********, ************ *** ******* ********** ** ********* complex *****-****** ******* **** * ******** ********. *** ********** ***'* going ********. ************* *** ************ *** ****** **** *** **********'* realm **** ***** ** ******* *** ******** ** ** **** result, *** **** ****** **** ***** **.

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Canon and Milestone's VSaaS Startup spinoff Arcules launched their platform at Google Cloud Next. IPVM spoke with CEO Andreas Pettersson about the...

Dahua Overseas Head Is Out on Jul 27, 2018

The long-time head of Dahua's overseas (i.e., International) business, VP and GM Michael Chen, has been quietly removed, amidst struggling...

Hikvision Strong Domestically, International Business Struggles on Jul 25, 2018

Hikvision's H1 2018 results are out. Overall revenue growth has sharply dropped, with the company acknowledging their "facing geopolitical...

Uniview Super Low Cost 4MP Tested on Jul 25, 2018

Even lower cost than Dahua and Hikvision, China's self-proclaimed 3rd place company, Uniview / UNV, is offering aggressive pricing including for...

Bribes Alleged, Nortek Sued For Antritrust Violation on Jul 23, 2018

A case of an unhappy distributor rival or did a manufacturer accept bribes? Nortek Security and Control has been sued by distributor Security...

Improved Security And Surveillance Bidding - 2018 MasterFormat Divisions Examined) on Jul 19, 2018

Navigating the world of system specifications and bidding work can be complex and confusing, but a standard format exists, and understanding it...

Most Recent Industry Reports

Cut Milestone Licensing Costs 80% By Using Hikvision and Dahua NVRs (Tested) on Aug 13, 2018

Enterprise VMS licensing can be quite expensive, with $200 or more per channel common, meaning a 100 camera system can cost $20,000 in VMS...

Nortek Sues SDS, Battle Over Unpaid Bill and Cancelled Lines on Aug 13, 2018

Nortek and SDS legal battle continues. As IPVM reported, SDS sued Nortek alleging bribery and antitrust violation. However, Wave fired back at SDS,...

Uniview Intrusion Analytics and VMD Tested on Aug 13, 2018

IPVM's IP Camera Analytics Shootout featuring Avigilon, Axis, Bosch, Dahua, Hanwha, Hikvision created some ill will with a Uniview distributor who...

ADT Employees Protest ADT CEO on Aug 10, 2018

So many ADT employees were so upset with ADT's CEO speech reported on by IPVM, that ADT's CEO was forced to send a mass email to employees to...

Axis / Avigilon Legal Battle Rises on Aug 09, 2018

In what is shaping up to be high-powered, will-not-back-down battle, Axis and Avigilon are squaring off in multiple legal contests. In 2017, IPVM...

Camera Focusing Tutorial on Aug 09, 2018

A camera's focus is fundamental to quality imaging. Mistakes can cause important problems. In this guide, we explain focus issues and proper...

Dahua Ban Response: NOT Chinese Government Owned on Aug 08, 2018

Dahua has responded to the US Congress passing a US government ban on Dahua and Hikvision's products. While Dahua offered the now standard...

Bad Move: ADT Markets Rival Amazon on Aug 08, 2018

Amazon may be lining up ADT as its next victim but ADT is happy to promote Amazon. Amazon has made major moves recently, including acquiring...

Hikvision PanoVu Mini Tested (Multi-imager + PTZ For ~$500) on Aug 07, 2018

Hikvision has released their first PanoVu Mini multi imager, the PanoVu DS-2PT3326IZ-DE3, with four 1080p imagers, including a PTZ and integrated...