Anixter / Bosch Sells Direct to Amazon

Author: Brian Karas, Published on Jan 18, 2017

Anixter regularly says they do not sell direct to end users or that they do not do it anymore. However, over the past year, Anixter has sold Bosch video surveillance products direct to Amazon for Amazon's internal facilities, IPVM has learned.

Inside this post, we examine what is happening and the concerns the move brings, especially in light of Anixter's ongoing practice of selling direct.

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Comments (74)

Undisclosed #1

01/18/17 03:13pm

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Michael Miller

01/18/17 09:24am

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Brian Karas

IPVM | In reply to Michael Miller | 01/18/17 05:12pm

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Undisclosed Integrator #8

In reply to Brian Karas | 01/19/17 01:54pm

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John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #8 | 01/19/17 01:57pm

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Cliff Ziegler

01/18/17 04:14pm

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Undisclosed Integrator #2

In reply to Cliff Ziegler | 01/18/17 04:20pm

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John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Cliff Ziegler | 01/18/17 05:18pm

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Undisclosed Integrator #11

In reply to Cliff Ziegler | 01/19/17 04:39pm

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Keefe Lovgren

IPVMU Certified | 01/18/17 05:43pm

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Steven Burman

In reply to Keefe Lovgren | 03/28/17 03:54pm

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Undisclosed Manufacturer #3

01/18/17 06:01pm

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John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Undisclosed Manufacturer #3 | 01/18/17 06:29pm

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Undisclosed Manufacturer #3

In reply to John Honovich | 01/18/17 07:36pm

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Brian Karas

IPVM | In reply to Undisclosed Manufacturer #3 | 01/18/17 07:55pm

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***, *** ***. * ***** **** * ****** ****** ** one ** *** *********** ********, * ******* ***** *** ******** integrators ********.

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Luis Carmona

IPVMU Certified | In reply to Brian Karas | 01/18/17 08:39pm

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John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Undisclosed Manufacturer #3 | 01/18/17 07:58pm

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Undisclosed Manufacturer #3

In reply to John Honovich | 01/18/17 08:04pm

****** **** ** ******** ** *****.

Michael Fusco

In reply to John Honovich | 01/19/17 10:04pm

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Brian Karas

IPVM | In reply to Undisclosed Manufacturer #3 | 01/18/17 06:43pm

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Undisclosed Manufacturer #3

01/18/17 07:44pm

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Brian Karas

IPVM | In reply to Undisclosed Manufacturer #3 | 01/18/17 07:58pm

* *** ******* ************* **** ****** ******** ******** ** **** deal. * ** *** ******** ** **** ***% ********* ** the ****** *******, *** ****** *** * ***** *** *** a ************, *** ***** ******* ***** ** ******* ***** (********* working ******* **** **** ** *** ********* ******** **** ** various *******), * ***** *** *********** ** ******** ** ** accurate ************** ** *** *********.

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Undisclosed Manufacturer #3

In reply to Brian Karas | 01/18/17 08:06pm

*****: **** *** *** *******, *** ******* **** *** **** a *** ** *******.

Brian Karas

IPVM | In reply to Undisclosed Manufacturer #3 | 01/18/17 09:23pm

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Undisclosed Manufacturer #3

In reply to Brian Karas | 01/18/17 09:49pm

*****:

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Marty Calhoun

IPVMU Certified | 01/18/17 08:00pm

*** **** ** **, *** * ******** **** *** *** 'distributors'. **** *** ** ***** ****** ** ** ****** ***** that **** **** ** ** *** ******* ** **** * sale. **** ** **** **** *** ******* **** *** * years ***. *** ***** ****, ** **** *** ***** *** them. * ****** **** **** **** ** ** ******** ******** at *** ** **** ** ****** **** ****, ********* **** thats *******,** ******** ****** ******! (*** **** ****** ****** ******** * presume?)

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Laura Garest

In reply to Marty Calhoun | 01/19/17 06:32pm

*'* ** ***** **** ***'** *** **** ******** *********** **** distributors. ** *** *** *** ******* ***** ********. **** ** us ******** **** ***** ** ***** ***** ** *** *********. I **** ****** *** *** **** *********** ****** ** *****. Over ***** ***** *'** **** *** ***** & ***** ******** come *** **, *** * **** ************ **** *********** **** I ***** ***** *** ****. ** ** *********** **** **** of *** *** ************ ** *** ****** ****** ** ******** business ********* *** **** ** *** * *** ***.

Marty Calhoun

IPVMU Certified | In reply to Laura Garest | 01/19/17 08:59pm

***** *** *** ****** ** ****, ** *** **** **** working **** *** *****, ****, ***** *** ** **** (*** quite * *** ****** ** ****) ** * ********* **** security ********?

Laura Garest

In reply to Marty Calhoun | 01/19/17 10:31pm

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Undisclosed Integrator #5

01/18/17 09:06pm

**** *** ** ** *** ****. ** *** ***** **** money **** *******, ***-**, ****-****, *****, ** *** ** ***** other ******, *** *** ********* ****** ***** ** **** **********.

**'* **** *** ********.

Jon Dillabaugh

Pro Focus LLC | 01/18/17 11:16pm

**** ******* ****** * ***** ***** ******** ******* ** *******.

Undisclosed Integrator #2

In reply to Jon Dillabaugh | 01/19/17 12:48am

*** ***, ******'* *** **** ***** ** **** ***** ***? Yes, *** ** * *********** *** *** ** * ************, but *** ***** ** **** ** ******* ** ******* ***** products ******* *******, *****?

****** ***** ** ********* ***** *******

Undisclosed #6

In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #2 | 01/19/17 01:29am

* *** ***** **** ***** **** ****** *** ******.

Undisclosed Integrator #2

In reply to Undisclosed #6 | 01/19/17 01:52am

** *********'* *******, * ***** ***** *** ****** ******** *** targeted ******* *** ******** ******.

Joe Mirolli

IPVMU Certified | 01/19/17 05:04am

* ***** ****** **** **** ******* **** *** ** *********** through ******* **** **** ** ** **** ********.

**** ***** ****, * ***** ** **** *******'* **** ******, but ****'* **** ** ******* ** ** **** *** ******* in. * ***'* ***** **** *** ******* ****** ** * customer **** ** ****** ***'* ******* ***/** ********* ******** *** automated ********* ***** *** **** ******* ****** *** *****. *** last ***** ****** ***** ** ** ** **** **** ****** men ******* *** **** ** *** ****. * **** ***** its ***** *******.

******* ******* ******* ** ********** ********* *** ***** ********* **** and ********** ******* ********** ** * ********* *****.

**** **** ** ** **** **** **** ****'* ****** ***** it. ** *** ** **** ******* ** **** **** **** types, *** * **** *** ******** * ******** **** *** that **** *** *** ** ** **** **** ****** ** end *****. ** ****** **** ********** ****** **** ********* ******* that *** * **** ******* **** **** **** *** **** just **** ** **** ****** **** **.....

******, ** *** **** ******* *** ********* *** ** ***'* buy **** "****" ** *** **** *** ********* **** **** take ***** **** ** ** *** ******* ** ** ********* of *** ********* *********.

*** ******** ****, ** * ************ ******* ** **** ****** to *** *** **** ******* *** ************ ***** ***? *'** be ****** *******, ************* *** *** * ***** ** ***** of *****. *** *** *** *** ****, ********.

Undisclosed Manufacturer #7

01/19/17 11:14am

Published for the 1st time on the same day as IPVM's Bosch/Anixter/Amazon story I believe

John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Undisclosed Manufacturer #7 | 01/19/17 11:34am

#*, *** **** **** *** ****** ** **** *************** ***** ******** ******* ********** ********. *** *** ******** ********* Digital ********** **. ***., ***** ********* ******, ***** ****** ********* products ** * **** ***** ** ***** *** ***** ******* across *** *****. ****, *** **** *** **** ** *** this ******, ***** ** *************** ***** ** ********* ***** *******.

Christopher Reider, CPP

01/19/17 01:57pm

******* ***** ** ***** ** ** **** **** *** **** of ****** ** ** *** ******** **** ***** ******** ** or ********** *********** **** ** ************ ********* *** *** **** how *** ********* ************ ** ******* ***** *** ******* *** system ***********. ** **** **** *** ***** **** **** ** integrator? ** ** ** ****** ** *** ** ** ****** from *** *** **** ********** *** ****** ** *** **** or ********. *** *** ****** ** **** *** *** ** it ********?

John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Christopher Reider, CPP | 01/19/17 02:06pm

*** *** **** *** *** ********* ************ ** ******* ***** own ******* *** ****** ***********.

*****, **'* ******. **** **** **** *** **** *** *** technical ************ ** ******* ***** *** *** ;) ******, ** have ***** ******** ******* **** *** ***** ***** ****** *********** to ** **.

** *******, **** ** ********* ***** **** ********* ******* ********, hardware, ******* *** ******* ******** ******* ** ** **** ********* than ***** ** **-*****.

Undisclosed Integrator #5

In reply to Christopher Reider, CPP | 01/19/17 04:38pm

*** ***** ** **** ******* *** **** ***** ** ********** over *** *****. **** *** **** ** *****'* ****** - or ** *****'* ****** *** **** - *** *****'* **** long **** ** ******** **** **** ***** *******.

**** ** **** ******? *****. ** ****** ***** **. **** the ************ **** ***'** ***** ** **** ***** ***** ******* supporting **. **** *** ********** **** *** **** **** ** buy **** **** **********, **** ****** ***'** ***** ** ** bidding ******* **** ***** ********* ******.

**'* *** *** "**** ** **** ****" *******.

Marty Calhoun

IPVMU Certified | In reply to Christopher Reider, CPP | 01/19/17 09:03pm

***? ******* ***, ******* *** **** ****** ***** ** ** Wholesale **** ********* **** ***** **** ** ****** **** **** not **** * ******** ******* *** ******** ******* *** **** in *** ********** *****, **** ** ******** ** ******* ***** that *** ***'* ** ********* ** ******* ***** **** **** the **** ***** ***** ** *** **** **** ****** $**** ONE ****.

**** ****** *** ** *** ***, ** *******, ** ****, period.

Undisclosed Distributor #9

01/19/17 02:29pm

*'* ******* ** **** **** *** ******* ****** ********** ** integrator ***** ** ******* ** **** ** ********, ** ***** to *** *** ************ *** ******* ********, ** * ********* where * ************ ****** **** * **** **** **** (****** through ************).

******: **** ******* *** **** ***** ** *** *** **********:**** ** *** ******* ****** ********** ** ********** ***** **** For * **** * ************ ****** ** ****?

Buddy Mason

01/19/17 02:35pm

******* ** ***** **** ** ** ***** ***. ** ****** a ****** ******** (**** ** **** **** **** * ******* with) ** ** * ******* *** ***** *** ****** ****** to *** ** *** *** *** ******* ** ** **** time **** ********* *** ******* **** ******* ** * **** low *****. * ****** *** ******* *** ** ****** **** they **** ****** ** *** ******** ****** *** ********, ***** this ** * ******/***** *******. ***** ***** **** *** ******. So ** *** *** **** ***** ***** **** *** ***** of ******* ** **** *** **** *** ***** ** ***** the **** ***** ($*,***,***) ** ****** *** ******* *** ** buildings "*********" *** *** ******* ***** ** ****** **? *** issues **** ** **** ******* ******* ** *** **** ************* with *** **** *********** ** **** ******* ** ***** **** feel ****** ***** ******* ****** ** *** *****. *** ***** issue ** **** **** *** ****** *** ** ****** *** on ** *** **** ******* **** **** *** *** **** surfaces *** ***** ** **** ****** **** *** *** **********. They *** ** *********, **** ** ** ** ********* **** they ***** **** ** *** *** ****. **** * ****** the ******* ** **** ***** ****** ** ****** ** ****** for **, ** ***** ****** ** ******. ********* **** **** never *** ** *********** *******, *** ****** ******* ** **** margin ** *** *** ****. ** *** **** **** ***** weeks *** ***** *** ******* **** ** **** ** **** they *** ** *** ** ***** **** ** *** ** make ** *****...*** * **** **** *******. * ****** *** manufacturer *** ** ****** *** **** ******* *** **** * long ************ **** **** **** **** **** ** ***** ********** with ******* ** *** *** **** *******. *** ** **** say **** ***'* **** * **** *** **** **** ***** product ***** *********** **** ** ** ** *** ******** *** change ** ** * ********* *******, ***** ********* ** **** to ** ** **** *** *****. *** ** ****** *** customer ******* ***** **** ** ****** ** ****** *** * speaker/clock.

Undisclosed #6

In reply to Buddy Mason | 01/21/17 03:29pm

**** *** **** ********, ** *** **** *** *** *******?

Undisclosed Integrator #10

01/19/17 04:23pm

**** * *** ****** *** * ****** * ******* ***** Anixter *** ***** ******* * * ****** **** **** *** company *** *** * *** ****** *** ** *** ** buy **** ******* ****. * *** **** ********** ** **** deal ** ****. ***** *** ****. **** ******* **** *** onion *** *** **** **** ****. **** **** ********* ******** back ** ** ******** *** *******. ******* ***** ** *** results **** **** ****** ** ***** *** ******** **** *******. We ** *********** **** ** ********* ****** ***** *** ** is **** *** ********** *******. ** *** ******** ** *** from ******* *** **** *** ***. **** ** **** ******* who ***** ***** ****. *** **** ******* ****.

*** **** **** *** *****. **** ***** ****** **** ** take *** * ****** **** ** ************ ********** ******** ***** dealer ****** ***** *** ****** **** ******* ******** ************. **** in **** ***** *** ******* ** ** ************ *** ** untrained ************* ****** ** *** **** *********. *** *** *** sharing **** ******* (****** *** **** **) **** ***** ******* by ******.

*** *** $$$ ** **** *****. ***'* ******** ** **** your **** *** **** **** **** **** ********.

Undisclosed Integrator #12

01/19/17 05:07pm

** **** **** ********** ******* *** **** ***** (**+) *** we ******** **** $** ******** **** *******'* ***********. **** *** last ** *****, *** ********* *** **** ** ****** ** $50M! ***** *** ***** ******/******* **** ******* *** **** **** stupid ********* **** **** ***, *** **** ** ********* ** a $*** ***********.

*** ** *** **** *** (*) **********.

** *** ** **** ******* *** ***** ***** ** ********** Anixter, **% (=**) ** *** ********* *** *** "*******" ** take **% ** *** ****** = $** ******** * ** and **** ** * $*** ****** **** **** **** **** responders!

*** ******* ****** ** *** **** ******; *** ******** *** buys ** **** ** * ****** ********* **** *******, **** be ******* ** ************ ****** ********* ***********.

*** ******* **** "** ***'* ** **** *******" ** "** have ******* ******* ******" ** ** *** **** **** ********, we **** ***** ******. ******* **** ***** **** *** *********** are *** ***** ****** ** **** ** ***********.

****** ******* ** ******** *** ***** ** **********'* *********... *** is **** ********* ** ******** **** **** ***, *** ***** anyone ** ******** **** *** ******* **** ** ******* ** go ****** **** **** ***, *** **** ******?

*** ******* ********** -

Undisclosed Integrator #11

In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #12 | 01/19/17 05:17pm

******. *********** **** *** *****.

Undisclosed Integrator #13

01/19/17 07:43pm

************ **** *** **** ***** *** **. ********** ** **** means **** *** **** ****** ***** *** *** ******** *** need *** **** *** ***** **** * *********** *****.

*****, * ***** **** *** ***%. * **** **** **** at ******* ************* *** ** *** *** *** *** ***-**/******* for ************ *** *** **** **** *** ****. *****, **********, etc.. * **** *** ********* *** **** *** ** *** industry *** ** ** **** **** **** ******* (***** * do *** ******* ** ** *********) ******* **** **** ** account **** *** ** ***-**/******* *** **** ***** **** ** save ***** ** *** *******. ****, * **** **** ** my ****** *** ** ******* ********* ******** ** *** ******** or ******. * ******* ***** ** ****** ******** *** ***** to ***** **** ********. * **** **** **** ********* ********** in ********** ***** ********* **** ******* ******* ** ** ****** much **** ***** ** ****.

Marty Calhoun

IPVMU Certified | In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #13 | 01/19/17 09:09pm

***** ***, ***** ** * ***** ********** ** **** * distributor ****** *** **** *** *** * **** *** **** an ********** ***** *** **** *** *** *** **** **** them. *** *** *** ********* # * *** ** ******* you ***** *** **** # *.

**** ******* *** *** **** *** ** ******* ******** ** anything *** *** **** *** ***!!

Undisclosed Integrator #14

01/20/17 01:59pm

***** *** * ***** *** * ******** ******** ******** *** at ****** ?

****'** ****** **** * ***** ** ***** ******... :)

John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #14 | 01/20/17 02:02pm

***** *** * ***** *** * ******** ******** ******** *** at ****** ?

******, ******* *** **** *****...

Undisclosed Integrator #2

In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #14 | 01/23/17 02:31pm

** ***** *** **** ***** ** *** ********* ** *** Security ********, **** ** *** ** ********. ***** **** ****** know **** **** *** ***** *** ** ******* **** **** jobs **** *** ****** ********* *** *** ****** ****. ***** left *** ** ******* *** ******* **** ** ***** ****** in *** **** ** *** ****** *** *** *** ****** in ** ***** ************* ********.

Undisclosed Integrator #15

01/21/17 09:14am

**** ** ****, ******* **** **** **** *** **** ***** through ****** ** * ***** ***** *****. **** *** ***** it ***** ****** ******** **** *** ****** **** ** **** as **** *** **'* ***. ** **** **** ******* *** they ******* *** ****** **** *****. **** * ******* ** struggling, *** *** ***** **** ***** **** ***** ** **** the ********* *****. * ******* ****'* **** ***** ** *****.

*****, * ****** **** ***** ** ****. * ******* **** feedback *** * ***** ******* ******** ****** ****** ****** *** fact *** ********** ** ***** ***** *** ************ **** ********* Support. ***** *** ** **** * ***** ***.

* ***** **** ** ***** *** ****.. * **** ***'* see **.

Undisclosed Manufacturer #16

01/23/17 01:48pm

* ****** ***** ******* ** ***** *******, *** ** ***** to ***** ** ****. ***** ** * ***** ********* **** needs ** ** **********, *** **** ** ***** ********' ***** to **** *** **** ********* *** ***** *********, *** ********** their ************. **** ** **** *****/******* *** ***** ****. *** I *** *** *********** ******* **** ************ ********* **** ****** pricing *** ******** *** ***** ******* ** ******** **** **********, and **** ****** ** ********** ** *** ************ **** ******* a ******* **** ****. *** *** ****** **** ***** **** to ****:

*. ************* **** ** ********** ** **** *** ******* ***** market *****. **** *** **** ***** *** ********** ********* (**** many **********) **** ***** * *********** ** ****** **** ************, drop ************* *** ****, ** *** *******'* **** ******* *** user *************, *** **** **** ********?

*. ********** *** ****** *******, *** **** ** ********** ** their ************/********* ** **** *** ******* ***** ****** ***** (* love *****'* ******* ** *** ****** ********). ** * **** in ***** #*, ********** **** ***** **** ******** ************ *** will ******* **** ********* ******* *** ***** ********. **** ** their ***** - *** * ***** ******** ********.

*. ************...... ***, ***, ***. *** ****** *****.

* **** *** ***** *********. ** *** *** ********** ***** selling, ***** ** ***** *** **** **** ***** *** **. There ** * ***** **** **** ***** ** ************. **** Pitt **** "***** ** ***". ************ ***** ******* ****** ***** illustrate **** ********** *** **** ********* ** ******** ** *** business. ***** ***** ** ***** *** ***** *** *** ***** away, ** * *** ** *** ** ** ******* - "adapt ** ***"

Brian Karas

IPVM | In reply to Undisclosed Manufacturer #16 | 01/23/17 01:59pm

***** ** * ***** ********* **** ***** ** ** **********, and **** ** ***** ********' ***** ** **** *** **** decisions *** ***** *********, *** ********** ***** ************.

********* ********, * ***** **** **** *********** *** ** ** a ************ ***** ** **** ******. ****** ***** *** ******* Anixter ******* ******** ******* ****** ** ******, ******* ******** ** very **** ***** *** **** **** ***** ******** *** ********* through ******* ****** ********.

**** *********** ** *** **** ** **** * ************ ** distributor **** "** ******* *** ******* *** ** *** **** direct", *** **** **** ****** *** **** ****** ** ** end-user.

*********** ***** ****** ** ****** *** ***** ************ **** ************* and ************ ***** ** *** ***** ******** **** **** **** operate ***, *** *** **** ****** ** ******* ** *** future. *** **** *********** *** ******* *** **** ** *****, so **** ** **** **** ******** *********** ** ***** ** base ***** ****** **********.

Undisclosed Manufacturer #16

In reply to Brian Karas | 01/23/17 03:02pm

********** ***** ***** - ** **** *** *** *** *** what *** **. ** * ************, * *** ** ********** when ************ **** *** ******* ******* **** *** **** ** to ***** *** ***********. ** * ** *****, * **** often **** ******** ** ******* **.

John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Undisclosed Manufacturer #16 | 01/23/17 02:01pm

#**, ****** *** *** ******** *** *** ********** ********. * agree **** *** **** ***** ******** ****** **** ** ***** and **** *** *** ***** *** **** ********* (******* ** is * ************, ********** ** ***********).

*******, ** *** ***** ***** ** ***** ** ***** ****** partnering / ******** **** **** *****? *** '**********' **** ** happening ** * *** ** '***** *** *** *******', **** once **** ************* ******** '******** *********' (*.*., ****), *********** ******* more ** *** *****, ***.

** ***** ****** ** ***** ******* ******* *** ******* *** trustworthy ************ ******* *************, ************ *** ***********? ********?

Undisclosed Manufacturer #16

In reply to John Honovich | 01/23/17 03:01pm

* ********** ***** **** - **********! * *** **** *** my **** *** * *** ******* **** **** ** **** (I ****** *** **** ****) ****** ************ **** *** *********** & ************, ******* ** *** **** ******* **** ** ******* strong *** ****/*&* ************* ** ****** ** **** * *********** impact ** *** *** *******. * ** ******* *** ***** thing *** *** ********* ** ** ******** ** ******* *** existing ***** - **** ** ** *** *********** **** ** end *****. ** *** ** ** * *** *** ******..... a **** ***********. **** **** *** ************ *** *********** *********, and * ** **** ***** **** ************ ***** ******, ******* it ** *** ************ **** **** ***** ***** *** *********** and ******** *****.

******* ** **** ** *** ********** ********* ** ********* ***** distribution/manufacturers ******* ******, ************* *** **** ** ********* **** ***** is * ***** **** ** "***** ****" ***** ** *** same *********. *** ****** *** **** **** **** ***** ** being *******, *** ** *** **** ** *** ************/*************.

***** ** * ***** *** *** *************, ************ & ***********. Develop ****** ************, ****** * **** ** ****** ******** **** resonates **** **** *******, ****** **** ******* *** ***** *** benefits **** ******* **** ******* ******** *** **** ** ***, support **** *****. ***** *** *** ***** ************, *** **** typically *** *************. ***** *** *** "*****-****" ************, *** *** instability *** ****** **********. * ****** *** ***** ****** .... who ** **** ** :)

Laura Garest

In reply to Undisclosed Manufacturer #16 | 01/23/17 07:03pm

*'* **** *** **#**.

Undisclosed Integrator #11

In reply to Undisclosed Manufacturer #16 | 01/23/17 02:57pm

******** ** *** *****-***** ****** ** "***** ** ***", ******** is *** * ********* ********. ************, ********* *** ********** **** "rules ** *** ****" **** ****** **** ***** ** **** a *** ** *** *** *** ******** ******** ** ** to **** ******* **** ***** ********* ** *** ******** ****** possible.

** * ******* ******** ** *** *** ***** ** ***** and **** *** *** ******* ** ******** ******* ** ** mandated ** ** ** ** *** ************, ****, * **** want ** ** ** ******** **** **** *******. *** ******* should ****** ****.

"********" ** ** ******* ******** *** ***** *** ** *******, but *** ****** ** *******.

John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #11 | 01/23/17 03:09pm

******** ** *** * ********* ********.

* ***** ********* *** ***** ***** **** ****.

* **** **** ** * ******* *****. *** **** ** the ******, ***** *** ******* ************* **** ******, *** ******* this ******* ***** ***** **** *************, ********** ** **** ***** numbers **, ******* **** ***** ********** ********. **** ****. ***** move ** ******** ***** ** * ***** ******** ** ****.

*** ***** *** ** *** ***** ****, ******, ***, ** the **** ****, ** ** ******** ******* *** ********** ** develop ********** *** ******* *********.

******* ** *** *** ***** ** ** ** **** ********, we *** ************ ** **** ********. *****/********?

Undisclosed Integrator #11

In reply to John Honovich | 01/23/17 05:32pm

*****, *** *** **** ****** ********* *** ***** *** ******* the ***** ** ********* **** * **** **** ** ** in ******** ****.

**** ** ********* **** * *** ** ****** ** *** forum ******** **** **** ** ****: ********* ***** *** ** doing **** **** *** ***** ******* *** ******* ** ********* of ***********, ******** ************ *** ******** ************* *** *** ********* as ** ***. * **** * *** ** ***** ***** around **** - *********** ******* *************, ************, *** *** *** being ***** ** ******* - *** *** - ** *** responsible ** **** *** **** *********** ********.

**, ** ** ********, *** ** "**" * **** ***********, manufacturers, *********** *** ************, **** *** ***** ** ********* *** own ********* ****** *** ***********, ***, **********, ** *** ******** that ** **** ***** *** ********* ***** ** *** ******* politburo ** ******* *****, *******, ** *******, ** ***'* **** enough ********** ** *** ***** ** *** *** *** ******** and ******** ** *****, *** *** *** *** ***** **** by ********** **** ***** *** ******** * ********* ** *****-****** anarchy ** ***** ** *** ** * ******** ***** ** dispruption *** **********. ***** ** ** **** ****** ** ****. That **** ***** *** *** ** *** *********** ******** ** we **** **, *** ***** *** *** *** ******* ********* having ** **** **** ****** ****-*-**** *******.

**** * **** ****** ** *** ******** ********** ********** ***** willingness ** "*****" ** ****, ** **** ***** ** *******.

Undisclosed Integrator #17

01/23/17 02:39pm

** * ******** **********, * ** *** **** *** ****, but ** * ******** ******, * ********** ** *** **** we *** ********* ** **** **. * ********* ** **** was **** * ************'* "******** ********" ********'* ********** ***** ********* that ** ********** *** ** **** ****, ***** ** *** experience **** ***** *** ****** ** ** **-******** *** ** priced *** ******** ** **** *****. *****, *** ************* *** moving **** **** *** ************ **** ** *** ******** *** valid *******. **** ** ******** ** ****** **** ** *** fire **** ** *** ********. ** *** ******* ***** ****** to *** *** ****, **** **** *** ******** ***** *** can **** ****** **** ** *** ******* **** ****** **********. I ***'* **** *** ****'* *******, *** ***** ******* ** charged **** ******* ***** ******* ********** *** *******. ****** **** those ****** ** ***** *** ***** *** *********'* ******** **** out. ** **** *** ******* **** ******, *** **** **** of *** ******** ** ******* **** ***********. * ******* **********'* model ***** ******** ** **** ***** ******* - **** ** why ** ********* ** ***. *** *** *** ******* **** you ***** *** *** ** **** ****. ** *********** ** are ********* ** **** *** ********* ** ***** *******. **** we **** ** ** ***** *** ********.

John Williams

In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #17 | 01/23/17 06:33pm

****

John Williams

01/23/17 06:29pm

*** ****** ******* *** ** **** ** **********, ** **** of *** *****, ** ****** *** ********.

**** * **** *********, ** *** *** ****, * **** a ************* ***, **** **** ** ***** **** ****'* **** to *** ****. ** **** ***** *** ***** - ********** getting **** ** ** ******!

*** ******** **** **** *** ****** ****. ***** **** ************ or ********** ***** ********.

Undisclosed Integrator #12

01/23/17 08:40pm

| **** * **** ****** ** *** ******** ********** ********** their *********** ** "*****" ** ****, ** **** ***** ** explode.

*****.... ** **** **** ***** ** ******* **** * **** someone *** "** **** *****"!

** ***** *** *** ******, **** *** *** ********* ***, we ****** *** ** ***** ***** ******** **** ************* *** distributers *** **** **** ****. *** ***** *** ***** **** you ** **!

*********** *** ******; *** ** ** ** ***** ** * Leader ** * ********?

********* ****** ** ** **** ******** *** *** ****** ***** for ***** ******** ** ***** ******** ** ****** ** ***** ******. *********** ***'* ******** ** adapting, ****** ****** *** ********** ****** *** *****, ******* *** obvious ************, **** *** ******* ** *** **** ****!

******** ***** ******** ** **** ** ** *** **** ** the ******, ***** **** ************* *** ************ *** *** ***** own ******* **** ***** **** ********.

**** "*****" ******* ** ****. ** ***'*!

John Williams

In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #12 | 01/23/17 09:37pm

** ********** ** *******: "* **** ****** ** ***** *** to ********** ****** *** ****'* ** *****". ** ******, *'** hired ***** *** **** *** **** ***** ********.

* *** ******* ***** ** **** * ***** * ******* and *****'* * ********** ********** ** **** *******. * ****** for *** ***** ******!

*** ** *******, ***** ***'* ****** *********** *** *** ***** side ** *** ******** ****** ** ***** *** ******** ** the ******, *** ****** ** ****. ** *** **** ***** to ******** ** *****, **'* * **** **** ** *******.

Undisclosed Integrator #17

01/23/17 08:50pm

********** ** *** ********** ** ******** ** ********** ********* *** crowd. ********** ****** ******* ******* ********, **********, *** * *********** to ******.

Undisclosed Integrator #11

01/23/17 09:08pm

******** ** ********** ** ********** ** ******** ****** ** ***** to *******, **?

Undisclosed Integrator #12

01/23/17 09:31pm

** *** *** ******** ** *** **** ****** *******, *****! There ** * *** ********** ******* ******* **** ******** *** profitable ******** ******!

**** ***** *** **** **** ** **** ******** *** * long **** ***** **** **** ***"**** *** *** ** ** ** *** *** ** *** to **"**** *** ******** ** **** **** ******** ** ** *** norm *** ******** ***** ** ******* **** *** ** ***** it! ** (********** *** ********** **) **** **** ***** *** control **** *** *****.

********** ** ***. **, * ***'* ******* **** ** **** to ********** ** ******** ****** ** ***** ** "****" *******.

Jason Brown

01/23/17 10:00pm

**'* ******, ****** ***'* **** *****-**** ******** ** **** ** agreed-upon ****** **** ** ******** ******** ** ******* **********. ** you ***** ******** **** **% ****** **** ***** ***** ** with **** ** *** ***'* **** ** *****, *********, ** warranty *** ********. *** **** **** *** ***** ****** ****** you ***** ** *** *******.

Undisclosed Integrator #12

01/24/17 01:08pm

*********** *** **** ***** ** ****** "***** ****" ******** *** in ****, ************ *** ********** *** ******** ** ****** ***-**** sales ** ************* *** ************. ** **** **** ***** ********* available *** ****, **** **** **** *** ********** ** *** they ***** *** *** **** *** ***** ** ** ***********, and *** **********.

Thank *** **** ******* ************* ***** ***** **** **** ***, ***** *** *************, **** ****** ** *** *****. While these manufacturers continue to promote their brand among end-users and target industries, they always engage a Certified Integrator to quote the technology, infrastructure, installation labor and sell the value in their expertise!

*********** ****** ****** ** ******* **** ****** ** ***-**** *****, thus ****** ** ********** ** **** ************ ***** ************ ********* for ************, *************, *** ********.

***** *** **** ****** ** *** ***, ******'* **** ** these ************ *** ************* ** ********* ******* ***** ********* ************, by ******* ******** ********** ****** ******* *** ****** ******** ******* required? **** ****** ** *** ****** ******* *********** *** ********** to ** ********, *** *** ***** ***** ****, *******?

** *** **** ********** *** ******* **** ********* ** *** law, **** ********** *********** **** ****** ******?

*************, **** *********** *** ******* **** *** ************ *** ************ who ****** ** **** ***-****** ********...

...***** ***** ** **** ******** **** ***** ********* ** *********!

Undisclosed Integrator #14

01/25/17 03:20pm

*'** ****** ******* **** ******* *** "******-***" (*.*. **********) **** the *****, **** ** ****** *** *** ******* *** *** design, ********** *** ******** *** ****** **** ***-*********** ** ******** works ***** ** **** **** ********** *** **** ********* *** any *******. ** ************* **** ** *** **** ******* ***** of **** ** ***-*****, *********** *** ****.

Michael Fusco

In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #14 | 01/25/17 03:27pm

"**** ** ****** *** *** ******* *** *** ******, ********** and ******** *** ******"

****'* *** ********** ** *** **********. *** ********** ******** *** depth ** *********, **********, ************ *** ******* ********** ** ********* complex *****-****** ******* **** * ******** ********. *** ********** ***'* going ********. ************* *** ************ *** ****** **** *** **********'* realm **** ***** ** ******* *** ******** ** ** **** result, *** **** ****** **** ***** **.

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Genetec is launching a new series of hardware appliances, dubbed "Streamvault", with updated capabilities and design. These units will replace...

Arecont EVP Schafer Ousted on Oct 09, 2017

Days after IPVM reported Troubles At Arecont Vision, the public face of Arecont and the incoming Chairman of the Security Industry Association,...

Ex-Avigilon SVP Global Sales Joins IndigoVision on Oct 09, 2017

IndigoVision has pulled a well-known ex-Avigilon sales leader back into the security industry to head up their global sales...

Favorite Integrator Mobile Phones 2017 on Oct 06, 2017

Smartphones are more critical than ever before, with integrators relying on them not only for contact while in the field, but for business...

Troubles At Arecont Vision on Oct 03, 2017

Arecont is facing big problems. But Arecont says the future is 'bright'. In this note, we share feedback from Arecont and from sources close to...

Vivotek Delta Acquisition Concludes on Oct 02, 2017

On August 8, 2017, Delta Group made an offer to acquire Vivotek. Now, the acquisition process has concluded. Inside this note, we examine the...

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Buy From B&H, Ship Direct From ADI on Oct 16, 2017

B&H, one of the largest online sellers of video surveillance equipment to end users, regularly purchases their video surveillance equipment...

Competing Against Siemens on Oct 16, 2017

Siemens entered the integration business with 15,000+ customers, through their acquisition of Security Technologies Group in 2001. Since that time,...

Geovision GV-EDR2100 Tested Vs Hikvision on Oct 16, 2017

A number of ADI's top selling IP cameras are, at least surprisingly to us, from Geovision. We recently bought and tested the Geovision EDR2100...

Top Problems Searching Surveillance Video (Statistics) on Oct 13, 2017

When crimes, accidents or incidents happen, the video surveillance system is a key component in finding out and proving what actually...

Exacq M Series Low Cost NVR Tested on Oct 12, 2017

With recent cyber security issues hitting NVRs and cameras from low cost leaders Dahua and Hikvision, users are increasingly seeking alternatives...

Long Time Industry Exec Leads New Security Franchise Offering on Oct 12, 2017

John Nemerofsky previously built and sold a $150 million dollar integration business, and then was VP of Niscayah from its spinout of Securitas,...

PoE Powered Access Control Tutorial on Oct 12, 2017

Powering access control with Power over Ethernet, like for IP cameras, has become increasingly common. However, the demands for access power are...

Knightscope Rockets To $20 Million Funding on Oct 11, 2017

Knightscope is celebrating. 15 months after running over a child and 3 months after a Knightscope robot drowned, Knightscope is having the last...

Avigilon / Canon New Lawsuits, No Settlement on Oct 11, 2017

In July, Canon sued Avigilon, a notably rare move amongst major players in the industry, including Canon's subsidiaries Axis and Milestone. At...

Surveillance Systems Remote Access Usage Statistics on Oct 11, 2017

Remote access is a major benefit and risk for video surveillance. It is a benefit because it allows users to manage security or review...