ADI Battles Manufacturer Partners
By: John Honovich, Published on Jan 11, 2017
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Comments (16)
Undisclosed Distributor #1
Please correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the W-Box OEM'd by HikVision? If so it's a win/win for them. ADI is one of Hik's largest distributors in the US (if not the largest), so increasing sales of W-box only aides Hik in their quest to dominate the US camera market. The Axis, Sony, Arecont, etc of the world should take sales of the W-box as a threat to their business and work to shift their product sales to distributors who value true partnership over low cost trunk-slammer type sales.
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Undisclosed Integrator #2
I don't know about all W-Box products being less then competitors because I had to run in to ADI yesterday to pick up a HDMI splitter. I found both a W-Box and Vanco splitter. I was quite surprised after a price check on both. I really thought the W-Box would beat out Vanco but it was quite the opposite. I think the Vanco was roughly $10 less then the W-Box.
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John Honovich
From a small manufacturer, posted on LinkedIn:
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Arthur Huijskens
In the past severall ADI Employees said the following thing to me;
If you can't beat them join them.
It's all OEM! They just arrange bids towards different manufacturers and the winner gets the order.
I'm wondering if these products are also sold to the US Government. Do you know anything about that John? Hikvision banned so just let them sell the same stuff under a different brand. I'm curious about that.
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John Bazyk
IPVMU Certified | 01/18/17 01:29pm
We've used a few wbox products, mostly monitors, TVs, HDMI extenders, relays, high gain antennas and other small components. We've for the most part found they're reliable. I realize this might be bad for manufacturers, but this is good for us. Simple components that are good quality, less expensive and have a good warranty is great! If we have something go bad, we exchange over the counter no problem. Other than I think one power supply we haven't had anything go bad. We have used dozens of monitors and TV with no issues that I can remember. I hope they continue to expand and improve the line. I would like to see some better cameras and readers for access control. I refered them to the manufacturer we currently use for readers.
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Keefe Lovgren
Hasn't ADI been competing against the manufacturer partners for years with Ademco alarm systems and Honeywell Video/Access/Intrusion/Fire? I would think that their partners would be used to it by now. The article indicates many valid risks for both ADI and it's partners especially the potential for revenues lost due to closed or weakening businesses.
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Undisclosed Manufacturer #3
ADI had do go down this road to compete with companies like Eastern, Unix, TS Micro, and the plethora of smaller companies like this, or so they felt. My experience with other distributors like CSC, Anixter, Graybar, and Scansource is their inside and outside sales staff do a great job partnering with both integrators and manufacturers to drive demand, network, and design solutions. ADI is falling farther and farther from this ecosystem and I think eventually they will become a flea market in the eyes of the professional, if they continue to model a supermarket.
Manufacturer best distribution partners help provide value to their product, they don't come up with excuses and place blame. ADI will be the flea market (and Honeywell store) of distribution as they lose the trust of the sales channel and competitors are merging and growing around them, prioritizing security sales initiatives and forming stronger relationships with manufacturers.
When an integrator asks me, "who should I buy from?", I would be stupid and disingenuous to ever suggest a distributor that sells on low price, competes with me, and does nothing to offer value to my product.
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Undisclosed End User #4
When will IPVM add wbox cameras to camera finder?
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Undisclosed Integrator #5
The scenario described in this topic was set in motion many years ago. In effect, the manufacturers "surrendered" to distributors like ADI, Graybar, Northern Video, and reaped short term benefits from their strategy. The benefit was a lower cost of sales. Lower cost was achieved by squeezing their existing sales teams - lower commissions to sales agencies representing their products, dumbing down of their sales force, which essentially allowed distributor's such as ADI - to be in the position to control their sales channel. Today, the manufacturers who made these decisions are in a bad position.
Manufacturers who didn't make these decisions are in a much stronger position - Avigilon Genetec S2 Lenel AMAG aren't slaves to their competition.
Agree ?
NOTICE: This comment has been moved to its own discussion: Avigilon, Genetec, S2, Lenel, AMAG Aren't Slaves To Their Competition
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