ACLU Falsely Contrasts School Shooting Killing Odds To Winning The Lottery

Published Nov 30, 2023 13:15 PM

ACLU wrote a 60+ page report criticizing the EdTEch Surveillance industry, and in the report, it compared the odds of a student getting shot and killed at a school to winning the lottery. But why is it wrong, and what are the actual chances of a child dying due to gun violence in a school?

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IPVM believes that this comparison is inaccurate, and in this report, we provide our estimation of school shooting odds and examine the ACLU's feedback to IPVM on why they believe that the comparison is appropriate.

Executive *******

******* *** **** ******* *** **** to ****, *** ********** ** *** "likelihood ** * *-** ****** ****** student ***** **** *** ******" ** the **** ** ******* *** ********* is ********** *** ************* ********* *** odds ** ******* **** ** * school *** ******** *******:

(*) *** * ** *** ******* odds ** "******* **** *** ******," cited ** *** ****, ** *** probability ** "*** ***** ***," ***** is *** * **** ********** ******* students ** ** ****** *** ** years *** *** ~*** ****/**** *** are ******** *** ** ** ****** on *** *** **** **** ** to ******.

(*) *** **** *** ***** ** a **** **** *******, ********* ********* **** **** **** ******* since ****, ********** *** *********** ** "******* shot *** ******" **** *******.

***** ** ******* **** ** ****** *********** ****, **** ********* **** *** odds ** ******* **** *** ****** in * ****** ******** ** ******* 1 ** ***,***, ***** ** ************* 4,000 ***** ****** **** *** **** provided ** *** ****.

Security ***********

* ****-*********** ********* ** ******** *********** is ********** *** *********** ** **** and ********* **** **** **** *************** should ** ****** *** ** ********. Rationally, ******* ****** *** ** ******** that ************* *** ****** *** ** deploy *** *************** *** *** **** accept *** ****. *******, *** ****** of ********, **** ** ************* ****, are ** *********** **** ******* ***** significant *************** ** **** ****.

ACLU "******* ********" ******

**** ******** ********* *****+ **** "******* ********" ******, ***** ** ******* ********** *** EdTech ************ ******** *** ********* *** aggressive *********, "*************," *** ******* ******** to ******* ******* *** ******** ***** that ***** ********** ** ***** ** prevent * ********.

**** ******** *** ****** ** ****** in * ******** ******; ******* ********** ****** ************ ******* *** Marketing *********.

1: *** ******* ****, ********* **********

** ********** **** ****** ********* *** quite ****, *** **** **** * comparison ******* *** **** ** ******* "shot *** ******" ** * ****** shooting ** *** ******* ** ******* the *********, ** *** ******* ***** shows:

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2018 **** ******* ** *** ******

*** ******* ****** ** *** **** of * ******* ***** **** *** killed ** * ****** ** * 2018 ****"****** ********* *** *************** ****. *** is **** ** **** ******* ******?" *************** ******* ******, ** *** ******* ***** *****:

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**** ******* ********** ***** **** ** chances ** ******* **** *** ****** on "*** ***** ***," ***** ** not ** ******** ************** ** *** probability ** ******* ***** ** * school, ** **** *** ** ****** for ** ***** *** ~*** **** per ****. *******, ******* **** ***** their ******** ********* *** ***** *-** education ****** **** *** ***** ** a ********** ***.

***** *** ****** *** ** ******* for **** (**** ****** ** ** misleading), *** ****'* ******** ** *** data **** * ***** *** ** questionable, ******** ********* **** **** **** ******* since ****, ********* ** *** ******** ****** For ********* **********.

**** ** * ****** ***** *** respected ************, *** *** ******** *** statements **** *********** ******. ***** *********** the **** ** ******* **** *** killed ** * ****** *** **** a ******** ****** ** ******'* ********** of *** ******** ****** *** ******** is.

IPVM *********** ** **** ***** ** * ****** ********

***** ************* **** ****** ****** ********* ** **** *** extrapolating ** ** ** ***** (***** to ********* *** ***** *-** *********), IPVM ********* **** *** **** ** one ******* **** *** ****** ** a ****** ** * ** ***,***.

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*** **** *******, **** **** *** data ****:

ACLU ******* *** **********

**** ******* *** ** *** **** author ** *** ******,**** ******, **** ******** ***** *** **********, and ** **** **** *** "********* is ******** *** *** ** *** misleading" *** **** "**** **** ****-***** risk ***********, *** [**********] ** ***% accurate".

****'* ****** ** **** ******* *** schools "** *** ***** ***** *** risk **** * ****** ** ****" rather **** ****** "********* *****" ** "Is ** *** **** ***** *** (i.e., *****)," **** ****** *** ********** accurate:

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I ***** *** ********* ** ******** *** *** ** *** ********** (although it was not ACLU developed). When parents worry about something happening to their kid at school, they ** *** ***** ***** *** **** **** * ****** ** ****; they ***** ***** *** ********* ****, ***** ** ** ***, ** ** *** **** ***** *** (*.*. *****)? So **** **** **** ***** **** ***********, *** ***** ** ***% ********. Similarly, if no incident happens today, then it is the same analysis and risk for the following day and so on. I ***** *** **** ******* ** *******. **** *** **** *** ***** **** ******** ***** ******* ***** **** ****. ** ** * ***** (*****) *******. If a school keeps its kids safe on a day by day basis, then it turns into a long term solution, but the viceral risk analysis (which the EdTech companies seek to manipulate) is very much of the moment. It's *** * ********, ****** ****** ***** ******** (**** **** ****) **** ** ***** ** ****** *** ****** ***** ** ******* ****** - ** ** *** **** *********. [emphasis added]

**** ************* ********* **** **** ******** and ******** **** ** ******* **** multi-million ********* ** *** "******* *********" or *** ***** ******** **********, **** invest ** ******** **** ** ******** period ** **** ****** **** ********* "immediate" ********. **** **** ******** **** equipment, **** *** ****** ** ***** the ******* ** ******* ***** ******** safe ********** ***** ****** *********.

****** **** **** "***** *****" **** our ********* **** **** ****** ************ (i.e., ********** *** *** *,***+ **** spent ** *-**), *** **** *** "significantly ******":

*** ** *** ***, **** ** we **** ******* * ****** ****, the ********** ** * ****** ******** happening ** * ********** *** ** school ** **** ***, ***** ********.Remember, *** ***** **** *** ***** **** ** ***** ** **** ** ******* *********. If *** ****** **** **** *** **** *** **** **** ** ******* ********* (***** *** ***** ****), ***** **** ** * ********** ********** ** ***** ** *** ****** ******* ****? *** ******. It's still exceptionally low. As such, I **** ***** ***** **** **** ********* **** *** **** ** * *** ******* **** **** *** ****** ** * *-** ********* ** "************* ******." If my chance of winning Powerball was suddenly twice as likely, I wouldn't say my chance of winning was "significantly higher" given that my overall chance of winning remains almost zero. [emphasis added]

****** ****** ****** **** ** ***'* chances ** ******* *** ********* "*** suddenly ***** ** ******," *** ********** in **** ** *** ***********. *******, the ********** ****** ******* ****'* *** IPVM's ************ ** ~*,***. **** ****** creates *********** ******* ** *** **** of *** ******* * ********* ** getting **** *** ****** ** * school.

Odds ** ******* ******** ** * ****** ********

*** *** ***** **** ******** ** the ****** **** ** ******** ** a ****** ********, *** **** *** people *** **** ******* ** **** their ****/***** ****. **** ************* ****** the ****** ** ***** **** * school *** **** ***** *** ********. Using **** ******, ***** ** *** 2022 ****, *** *** ******* **** the **** ** ***** ******** ** 1:100:

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Kids **** ** ******* **. **** ********

***** **** ** * ****** ** a *** **** ****** ***** ** death *** ******** ********, *** *******, to ******** ******** ** ******* *****. Almost*** **** ***** ** ***** *** drown ** ***** ** **** ***** year******** ** ** ******** *** **** by *** ******** ** * ****** in ****). *** ******** *******, *******, is ****** ** *****.

** ******* ***'* ***** **** ********, one *** ***** **** *** ** swim, ***** ***** *** ** *** pool, **** **** *** ******** ** all *****, **** ***** ***********, ***. - *** ***** *** ********** ******* with ***** ******* ******** *** ***** ways ** ************.

*******, *** *** ************ ******** ** children, ***** ** * ******** ****** is *********** ********* *** ***********.

No **** ********

***** *** ****, ** *** *******, is ************* *************** *** **** ** school ******** ******, ** ****** ***** any ****** ******** ** **** ** a **** *********** ****** ** *******. However, ** ****** *** ****** ** fairly *** ********** ******** **** *** risks *** ** **** *** **** possibility ** ******* **** ******** *******.

Comments (16)
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Undisclosed #1
Nov 30, 2023

**** ******* ********** ***** **** ** chances ** ******* **** *** ****** on "*** ***** ***," ***** **not ** ******** ************** ** *** *********** ** ******* ***** ** * ******, ** **** *** ** ****** *** ** ***** *** ~*** **** *** ****. Clearly, parents care about their children surviving the whole K-12 education rather than not dying on a particular day.

*** **** ********** *****'* ***** ** represent *** *********** ** ******* ***** in * ****** **** ***** ****** student ******... ** ********* **** '** any ***** ***'.

*** "* ** ~****" ********* ** megamillions **** *** ***** ** *** draw - *** ** * *** draws.

**** ** ***** ***** **** ** being **** (*** ******) ** * school ** ***** **one *** - not 13 x 180 days.

(5)
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UE
Undisclosed End User #2
Nov 30, 2023

**** ******* *** **** ** ********** the ***** **. ** ***** **** you **** **** ** **** * new *** ** *********** **** ** death, ******** ** ****** ** ******* with **** ***** ******, **** ********** victory **** *** **** **** ****** they **** **** ***** ****** *** normal ***.

*** *** ** *** **** ** Dying ** * ****** ******** ***** again *** ********* ********** *** **** way:-Kids ***** ** *** *** ** school ** ******* *******-**** ***** **** health ************* ***** ******* ****** ** school-Kids ***** ** ****** **** **** overdoses

*** ******* *** *** *** *** 1-1,000,000 *** ** ***** ** * lightning ******? *** *** ********* **** 365x80 ** **** *** *** ********** risk **** ***** ****** ****?

*** ** ** *** ***** **

"****** ** ****** *** ********** ******** what *** ***** *** ** **** the **** *********** ** ******* **** critical *******."

*******'* *** ** ******** *** *** numbers **** ** ** **** **** both *****? *** ****** ***** *** that ** * ******* ******** ************ is ***** ****** ******** ******* *** advertisements, **** **** ** ******** *** shootings ***** **** ******'* **** (*****-**-********* were **% ** ****** ********* ********* to *** ** **** *******) *** also ** **** **** ******* ************. That ***** **** **** ***** **** of *** ********* **** ***** ****** inside ** *** ****** ** ******* happen ******* ** *** ******.

(5)
NE
Nikita Ermolaev
Nov 30, 2023
IPVMU Certified

**** ********** ******* **** *** **** even ****** **** **** **** ***** things *** ****** ***.

***** **** ************ *** ******** **** a **** **** **********, *** **** used ***** **** ** ******** *** often *** ******** ** ******* ******, which ** **** ** ***** ****. We *** *** ******** ******* **** them, *** ****** ****** *** **** severity ** *** *******.

*** ******* *** *** *** *** 1-1,000,000 *** ** ***** ** * lightning ******? *** *** ********* **** 365x80 ** **** *** *** ********** risk **** ***** ****** ****?

*** *** ************, ** ******* **** ******** ** *** ******** Weather ********** ******** ** *** ** ***** (K-12 ********* ******):

  • *: **,*** *** *** ** ********* during ***** ******** (***. ** *****).
  • *** ** *** ****** *** *** hit ** *********, **** **% ***

***** ** **** ****, *** *********** of ******* *** ** ********* ****** K-12 ********* (** *****) ** ~*: 94,000. ** ****, *** **** ** dying **** ********* ****** *-** ********* are *: ***,*** ** ************* *: 1,000,000.

*** ****** ***** *** **** ** a ******* ******** ************ ** ***** school ******** ******* *** **************, **** need ** ******** *** ********* ***** tech ******'* **** (*****-**-********* **** **% of ****** ********* ********* ** *** of **** *******) *** **** ** take **** ******* ************.

**** *****. ***** ** ******** **** the **** ** ***** ****, "*************" by *** ****** ************ ********* ** something **** **'** **** ** *** industry. ** ******* **** ** *** earlier **** ******, ******* ********** ****** ************ ******* *** Marketing *********

(1)
JH
John Honovich
Nov 30, 2023
IPVM

*******'* *** ** ******** *** *** numbers **** ** ** **** **** both *****? *** ****** ***** *** that ** * ******* ******** ************

**'** ******* ****** ** ******** ******** about ******* ******** *************.

U
Undisclosed #1
Dec 01, 2023

*** **** **** ***** **** ** downplay *** ***** *** ******** ** schools ******

*** ****?

** *** **** ****** **** **** against *** ******* ***** ********* ** detection ********* *** ********** ** *** and ******* *** ********** (******) ***** of ***** *** ******** *********?

JH
John Honovich
Dec 01, 2023
IPVM

**, ***** ******* **** *** **** providers ** ******* ** *******

U
Undisclosed #1
Dec 01, 2023

*** *** ******* ** *****.

** ****** *** ** ********** ****** is **** *** ****... * ** not ******* ***** ***** ******* **** from.

* ** ******** *** ******* ******* ******** ******* **** ******* *** ******* that ***** ********* *** ** *** and ******* ***** ********-******* ********* *******, taxpayer-funded ********* '*********'.

JH
John Honovich
Dec 01, 2023
IPVM

******* **** ******* *** ******* **** these ********* *** ** ***

*****, ** **'* "******* ****" ******* the ****. ** **** ****** ** other ******** "******* ****" ******* *** companies ******* ***** ********.

U
Undisclosed #1
Dec 01, 2023

*****, ** **'* "******* ****" ******* the ****.

***? ** ******* **** **** ****** their ************ *** ******** **** * pure **** ********** - **** *** ACLU **** *** ***** **** ******** because ** *****'* ****** ** *** 13 * *** **** **** ***** comparison ************ *** *** ********* **?

* ***'* *** **.

JH
John Honovich
Dec 01, 2023
IPVM

******* ** *****'* ****** ** *** 13 * *** **** **** ***** comparison ************ *** *** ********* **

*** **** * *****? ***'* *** your ***** ** *** ****** ** school *****. ** **** *** *** care *****? ** ***** *** **** he **** *** *** ****** ** any *** *** **** ** **** to ******. ****'* *** *****.

U
Undisclosed #1
Dec 01, 2023

**** ***** ** **** ***** *********** math ******** ** **********************- ******* ** *****'* ******* *** 13 * *** ****** ************ ******** *********?

...*** *******, **** *** **** ** inclusion ** **** ****** ** ***** calculation ** **** *** **** * false ********?

* ***'* ***** ****** ******** ** wrong - *** ******* ******* *** the *****... **'* **** *** *** views ** **** ***'* *** ***********.

UI
Undisclosed Integrator #3
Dec 01, 2023

** ** *******, **** *** ***** a **** ****** ******; ***'* *** be *****.

UI
Undisclosed Integrator #4
Dec 06, 2023

***** * **** ******* *** **** we *** ******* *****..

* ***** ** ****** ** ****** for ***** **** **** *** ** through *** *-** *******?

*** ** ***** **** ** * math ******...

** ** ***** **** **** ** grade **** ***'* *** *** ***** annual ********* ****** ** ****** ****** across **** *****, */**** ** *** annual ***** *** *****.

** **** ****** ****** ***** *** risk ** *** *** **** ************* to ***** *** *****, *** *** total *** *** ******.

****** **** */**** **** *** ** years ********** ** ****** *** **** risk ** **** ** *** ******* system ** *** ****.

*** **** ********* ***?

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Rob Hammond
Dec 06, 2023
IPVMU Certified

*** **** ** *** *** **** their ***** *** ****** *** * cliff.** *** **** *** ******** *******?** **** ******* *** *** ******* of * ****** ******** *** ************ even ****** *** **** ** ** incident *** **** ***.*** ** ** *** **** *** kids **** *** ****** ** *******, everyone ** *** ******, ****** ********, and *** ********* ** ******** ** an ********.*** ** ******* *****, *****, *** federal ****** **** ** **** ******** by ***** ***** ** *********.** ***, ** **** ** ** more **** ******* **** *** *********.

** ****** **** ***** ***** ***** statistics *** *******, *** ** *** agree **** **** ** * ******* on *** ******* *** **** ******* that *** ** ********* ** ******** the ******?

***, **** ********** *********** ****-**** *** issues *** ***** *********.*** ** *** *** ******* ***** systems ** ***** *********, ** *** selling **** ** ************ ************** *** purchasing ****** *** *** **** **** capable ** ****** ******* ******* *** BS.

U
Undisclosed #1
Dec 07, 2023

** *** *** ******* ***** ******* to ***** *********,we *** ******* **** ** ************ ************** *** ********** ****** *** *** **** **** ******* ** ****** ******* ******* *** **.

* ***** **** **** ***** ****** this ******** **** ******* ********** ** pointless - ** **** ***** ********* them ** ******** ***** *** ******.

*** **** ******** * ****** ***** is ********.

**** ************ ************** *** ********** ****** more **** ******* ** ****** ******* the ******* *** ** ** *** opportunist ***** ****** ******* **** ****** up ** '******* *********' *** **** during *****?

******* ****: *** ** ****

*** *** ******** **** ***** ************ administrators *** ********** ****** ***/**** ***** some ******** ** ** '*********' - and **** **** *******, **** ***** professionals *** ** ******-**** ** ************.

MH
Michael Henderson
Jan 02, 2024

****** **** ******* *** ***** ** wrong ** *****, *** *** ****** a *** *****. *** *** ***** criteria *** **** ** **** *****. Like ****** "****** ********", ******* ** is ** *** ******** ** **** the ********, ** ******** **** ******** involved ** "********** ******" **** *** outside ********. * ***** ********** ***** down ** ******** ******* ** ******** finger ********. *** *** ********** ** fact *****, *** ********* *****. ** many ******* ** *** **** **** had * ************* *******, ********* ** which **** *** *** **. ** would ** **** ** *** ****, factual ****.