Bosch Dropping Dahua

Published Feb 13, 2020 15:04 PM

Bosch has confirmed to IPVM that it is in the process of dropping Dahua, over the next year, as both IP camera contract manufacturer and recorder ODM / OEM.

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Inside this note, we share feedback from Bosch, examine the driving forces (specifically US government ban / NDAA) and how this impacts both Dahua and Bosch going forward.

For background, see Bosch 3000i Cameras Tested and Bosch Divar NVR Tested vs Dahua.

Bosch *********

***** ********* ** **** ****:

***** ** ******* ** ********* *** IP ****** ******* ********* ****** ****. As **** ** **** ********* ********* plan, ** *** ******* ** ********** partners ******* ** ***** *** ****** production ************ ** *** ************* **** in ****, ********. ** *** *** current *****, ** ***-****, ** **** start ******** ** ******* **** *** manufacturing *********. ****** *** *** ** 2020, ** **** ******** *** ********* and ******** **** ***-******* ************ ** cameras ** *** *.*. ******. ** already *********, ** ** *** *** any ********* ******** ** *** ** cameras.

*** ****, ** ** *** **** a ******** ******** *** ********* ** DVRs ** *** *********. ** *** working **** * *** ******* ** explore ** *********** ********; *******, *** project ** *** ********* ***.

Background ***** / ***** ***********

****** **** ***** ************ *********, ***** has ***** ********** ***** ******** (*.*.,************ ******** *** ****).

*******, ***** *** ****** **** ***** in * ****:

(*) ***** ******** ************* ** ***** a ****** ** *****-**** ***** ******** (models ** ********* ** ********* ******** ********* **** ******). ***** cameras ***** *** *****'* ********, ***-******* SoC, **********, ******, ***. *** **** are ******** / ********* ** * Dahua *******.

(*) ***** *** / **** ******* lower-cost ********* **** *****. ****** *** cameras, ***** ***** ******* ** *** some ******* ** ***** ******** / software ****** **** **** ****** ******** construction *** ******** ************ (***:***** ***** *** ****** ** *****.)

Problems *** *****

*** **** *** ******** * ******** for *****:

  • ***** ** ***** ****** **** ***** firmware / ********, **** *** ******** by *****. *** **** ***** *** a *********** ** ******** '********' ** Dahua. ***** ***** ************* *** ** argue **** ***** **** ********* *** cameras *** ** **** ***** ** risky *** ***** ***** *********** *** still ***** ** ********** ** ******* the ***. ******** ***** ** ****** simpler *** **** *****.
  • *** ***** ********* ****** ********* **** under *** **** ***, **** *** those **** * **** ******* ************** of *** ****. ***** ***** ** banned *** ********** ***. ***** ***** recorders *** *** ****** **** *** certainly *** ***** ** *** **********, carrying **** ******** ***** *** *********.
  • *** '*********' ********* *** ******** ********** and **************** / *********** ** *** ***** House. ***** ****** ** ***** ***** subject ***** ** ******* ******** *** their ******* ******** **** *** ** government.

Impact *** *****

** *** ***** ****, ** ****** presents ****** ******** ** ***** ***** to ****** *** ** *****. ********, Dahua's ****** *** ****** ***** **** what ***-***** ******* *****. *******, ***** is *** * ***** ***** ******** so ***** ** ***** ****** *******, it ******** ******* *****'* ******* ***********.

Impact *** *****

***** **** ******** ** *******, ************** inside ** *** ***, *************** * ******* ** ********* ******** in ********, ***** *** ** ********** ****** ******* *********.

** ********, ***** ** *** * very ***** ******** *** *****. *** Bosch ******** ***** ** ******** ** greater ********** ***** ** ************ ****** in *** **** ***** ****** ************* (whether ************ **** ***** ** ********** end-users) ************ ******** ********** **** *****.

Comments (13)
UM
Undisclosed Manufacturer #1
Feb 13, 2020

* ***** *** ******** **** *** in ***********. **** *** ******* *** other ********, ********** **** **** ** not *** **** *** **** *** products **** ***** **** ** **. It ****** **** ***** ***** ** be * ******** ******** **** **** OEM/ODM/contract ************* *** *** ******** ****. I **** **** ***** ** ***** a *** **** *** *************, *** does **** **** ** ******* *** software *** ***** **** ** ******* else *** *** *** ********** ***/** design ** *** ********?

(4)
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JH
John Honovich
Feb 13, 2020
IPVM

**** *** ******* *** ***** ********, indicating **** **** ** *** *** will *** **** *** ******** **** their **** ** **.

****'* *** ******* ** ** ***** misleading. **** **** ****:

****** ********** ************ ** *** ************* site ** ****, ********.

**** *** ********** ************* **** ** their *** ******** ** ***** *** facility.

*** ***** **** ** ******* **** for *** *** **********

**** **** *** **** ***** *** the ********* ** ********** *****. *** what **** ** **** * ******* contract ************ ** ****, **** ** what **** **** *******, * ******** ************ **** *** in ********.

(3)
UM
Undisclosed Manufacturer #3
Feb 13, 2020

***** ** ** ******* ****** **** building, ******, *** ********* **** *** manufacturing *****.

(2)
VD
Valery Dubovets
Feb 13, 2020
IPVMU Certified

* ***** **** ** ******* ********. Bosch *** ***** **** * **** "software *******/********" *** ******** ***** **** be. **** ** **** ****** ** designing *** ********** ***** *** ******** and **** ** ***** *** **** focus **. ****** *******, *** ***** cameras **** ******* ** ******* ********, which **** ******** * **** *** their *** ********/******** ***********, *** **** is *** *** ******** *** ****** Things (****,******** *** ****** ****** ******* ** an ***-*****) "*******" *** *******. **** **** provide *** ** *** *** ********** components *** ** ****** ** ******** apps. **, **** ***** ** *** plan ** ****** **** ** *** software *********** ** *** *****.

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JH
John Honovich
Feb 13, 2020
IPVM

***** ******* **** ******* ** ******* platform, ***** **** ******** * **** for ***** *** ********/******** ***********, *** that ** *** *** ******** *** Safety ****** (****, ******** *** ****** camera ******* ** ** ***-*****) "*******" was *******.

*** ***** *** **** *** ********** software ** *** ** *******. **'* not **** **** **** *** ******* on *** ****** *** ****, "***** you **".

**, **** ***** ** *** **** of ****** **** ** *** ******** development ** *** *****.

** *** ********, **** ***** ** that ***** ** ******** ***** ** developing * ******** ******** **** ** built ** ******* *** **** **** Android.

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VD
Valery Dubovets
Feb 14, 2020
IPVMU Certified

*** ***** *** **** *** ********** software ** *** ** *******. **'* not **** **** **** *** ******* on *** ****** *** ****, "***** you **".

**** ** "********** ** ******* *****" optimized *** ******* *** ******** ***** IoT *******, *** **** *** ********** OS *** ******* *** *** ********* on *** ** **. *** ****, it ** * **** ** "*** SASTdroid ** ****** *** *** ***** you **!", *** "***" ***** * camera ************, *** ** ***-****.

****** ****, ***** **** ** ******** on *** ******* ****** ******* *********** for ********* ****, ***** ** ********* much ******* **** **** ********** ********** by ********** (** **** *** ***** it ***).

(1)
JH
John Honovich
Feb 14, 2020
IPVM

********* **** ******* **** **** ********** everything ** ********** (** **** *** doing ** ***).

********. *** **** ****** **** ** actually ******** *** *** ******** *** Store *** ************** ** ******* ****, there’s * *** ** ******** *********** involved ** ********** ****.

** *** **** ***** “********** ** themselves” ***, * **** ********. ******* it ** ****, *****, *********, ***., they *** *** ** ********* ****** of **** ****** ********.

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VD
Valery Dubovets
Feb 14, 2020
IPVMU Certified

*** **** ****** **** ** ******** building *** *** ******** *** ***** and ************** ** ******* ****, *****’* a *** ** ******** *********** ******** in ********** ****.

**** ** *** ****'* ************** *** Bosch ****** ******** ********** *** ******* to ** **** ****. *** ***, I ** ********** **** *** ***** as *** ********* ************* (**** *** owns ******* ***, *** ** ** irrelevant ** **** *******).

** *** **** ***** “********** ** themselves” ***, * **** ********. ******* it ** ****, *****, *********, ***., they *** *** ** ********* ****** of **** ****** ********.

* ** *** ******* ***** ***** line ** ****, ** ** *** obvious *** ****** ******** ** *** software ***********. * ** ******* ***** the ****** ****** **** **, ****** drivers, ********* *******, ***. ***** ** no "******" ** ** *** ***** camera ***** ***, ********** **** *** to *** ***** *** **** ******* by *** ******** ********** (*** ***, using * *** *** ********** ** some ****** ***** *********).

JH
John Honovich
Feb 14, 2020
IPVM

***** ** ** "******" ** ** any ***** ****** ***** ***,

**** ***** ** **** ***** *** developed *** *** ** *** *** IP *******, ******* ***** *** ****/***** distribution?

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VD
Valery Dubovets
Feb 14, 2020
IPVMU Certified

****, ***** ** ** **** ** on ***** ******* ** ** ********** term "**" *** ********** ** ****/***** of *** ******. ** **** *** mean ***** ** ** ************** ** similar ** ** *************, ** ** all ***-***** ****** ******** **************. *** for **** ***** **** *** *** still ** *** ** ********* ********** (especially **** *** ***** ****** ***********) - *** ******* ****/***** ****-***** *** hacks *** *** ********** ** ***** camera ********. *******, ***** ** * problem **** **** ** **** - you **** ** ********* (********* *** of *** **********) ********** (******* *********, security, **********, ********* ******** ********** *******, etc.) ** ********, ***** ** ******* harder *** **** *********** ***** ****. That ** ******** *** ** *** reasons ** ******* **** ** *** external ******* ** *** ******* *** been ****** *** ****.

(1)
UM
Undisclosed Manufacturer #2
Feb 13, 2020

**** *** ****** ******* ***** *********** ***** ***** ********* *********** **** ********** ******** ** they *** ****** ******* ******** ** non-government ******** **** ***** ** ************* such ** *****?

** ***** **** ***** *** ***** products ** *** ******, **** *** entire **** ********* *** ******?

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JH
John Honovich
Feb 13, 2020
IPVM

#*, ** ****** ** **** ****, *** ***** ***** *** *** clarified ** ********* **** **** **** by '***', ** ** ****** ** sure. ** **** ****** ** ** find **** ******* / *********** **** the ** **********.

(2)
UI
Undisclosed Integrator #4
Feb 18, 2020

* ****** ** *** ********** ******* has **** **** ****** ********?

******** ** *** **** * ***** on ***, ** ****** ** ***** in **** ****** *******.

*** **** ** * ****** ** NVR ******* ** ******* ***** ** a ***** ***...

****** ***** **** ** **** ** new ******** ** ******* ***** **********...

** **** ** ****** (***** ** will ** *** **** *** **** reasons), **** ** **** ****** ** could ***** ********!

***** *** **** ******* **** **** that *** *********** ********* ** *** enforcement *** ******** ******** *********.

** **** **** ***** ** *** “if ********* ***** **** * **** and ****** **** * ****, **** it’s ******** * ****”. **** **** not ***** ** **** ****