Alarm Veteran "Demands A Criminal Investigation" Of UL

Published Oct 18, 2019 14:22 PM

The Interceptor's Project pressure against UL continues to rise. Following Keith Jentoft's allegation that "UL Has Blood On Their Hands", Jentoft has provided a letter from 36-year alarm veteran Peter Goldring sent to UL.

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Goldring declares that it was "reprehensible that UL would try to sweep this matter under the rug" and that he will "demand a criminal investigation".

Inside this note, we go over the demand, the full letter, analyzing its claims and positioning.

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***** ******** ****** *** ********* ****** to **:

* ** ****** ********* ** **’* response ** ******* *****’* ****** ** the ********* *** ************ ******* ** Honeywell ***** ** *******/**** ***** ******* panels *** ****** **** ******* ****** flaws, ************ ******** ** ****** ** “Vista.”

**** ******** **** **. ***** ***** benefit *********** **** * ******, ******** accurate *** ** ******* ** **’* failure ** *********** *** ***** ***** against *** *********. **** ******** **** Zwirn *** * **** ** *** STP ** ********** **********. *** **** know **** ** *** ********* ****** helps ***** *** ********. **** ** not **** ******** ******* **. ****’* UL’s ********* *** *** ** **** case, **** **** ****** *********.

*** *** **** ** *****, * have ********* ******** *********. ** ** expert, * ****** ******** **** **** the ** **** ******* * ****** they **** ****** ** * ********** by ******* **** ******** ********, ** a ********** *********** *** ****** *** against ***** *** *********. *** ***** was ****** ** ******* *** ****** proper ******** ** *********** ** ***** tested ** ***. *** ** ***** two ********** ** *********** ********.

* **** * ****** ** **** CEO **** **** ********* * **** investigation *** *********, *********** ********* **** the **** *** ******** ******** ***** a ********** ** ******* ** **** matter.

* **** ** ********** * ****** to *** ******** ******* ****** ********** that **** ****** ** *** * problem ****** ** *** ************, *** rather ** **.It ** ************* **** ** ***** *** ** ***** **** ****** ***** *** ***. As I see it, the very necessary recall should indict UL, not any manufacturer. Simply, the manufacturer relied on UL just as much as I the specifier, the insurance underwriter and the end-user does.

***********, ** **my ******** **** ** *** ********* ******** *******. * **** ** ******** **** ******** ********* ** ** ***** **** *** ************* ***** **’* ******* ****** ** ****** * ******** *************, UL listed products are more expensive their non-listed competing devices. Simply said, I pay more for your listing. In this case the listing was given based on reports that were false. I believe there is criminality involved.

** *** *******, * **** ** advising ********* ************, *******, ******** ******** members *** ***-***** **** ** *** failed, **** ** ** ****** *** position **** **** **** *** **** anything ***** *** **** **’* ******* is *** ** ** ****** **** in *** ********** ******** ***** ***** this ****** ** ********.

****** *** **** ********** *********** ** documentation **** ******* *** ********* ** fact ********* ******, ****** ******* ** forthwith.

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*********** ******* ** ****** ** ** Listed ******** *** **** ********* ************, manufacturers, ********** ********* *** *** ***** rely ** ****.

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** ** ************ **** ** ** investigating **. ***** ****** ** ** independent *************.

UL's *****

******** *** ********** ** * ** email ** ***** ** **** **** is *** ** ***** *** *** risk / ******** **** *** *********** Projector ** **********, **** ** ******:

** **** ** ******** ****** ******* the ********** ********* ** *** ******. The ******* ********* ******* ********** *********** hazards, ****** ** ****** *** *********** disablement ** * **** ****** ******. Those ****** ****** **** ***** *** commercial ******** ** ******* *******. *** requirements ***** ********* ****** ****** ** fire ***/** ********* ********* ****** *** protected **** *** ********* *** ******** by *** ********** ********* ** ****.

Goldring **********

******** ** ** ***** ******** *******, having **** ** ********* ** ******* companies **** *** *****, ********* ***.******** ** *************'* *** *** ********:

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***** ** *** ** *** ***** people * **** ** ********** *** security ****** ********* *** *** *********** and ********** ******* ************. *****'* ************ as * ****** ** *** *** its ********* ******* ** ****** ****** by ** *** *** ***** ** the ***** ********** ****** ********* ** evolve.

Who ** *****?

** ** **** ** **** *** is *****. *********, ***** ** * genuine ****** **** ***** '*******' ** this **** ***** **** ********* ***** and *** ***** ********* *** ** be ***********. *** **** ************** ** The ***********'* ****** ***** *******'* *** ***** ***** ****** Overblown? ****.

** **** ******, ** **** ** implausible **** ****** ** ** **** be ******** *** * *****, ***** the ****** ***** ****** **** * very **** **** ****** ** ****** the ******* ** ********* ******** ** this ******.

Marketing **** *** *******

*** **** **** ** **** ******* and ***** ********** **** *** ********'* attention ***. *** **** ** ********* everyone ** *** ***** **** ** the ******** *****, *** **** *** also ****** *** ** *** ************* of ****** ** *** ***** **** number ** ****** ** *** ***** and *** **** **** **** ************* and ********* ***** **** ** * recall *** ********.

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** *********** **** ****, ** ***** provide * ******** *** **** *****-********** marketing *** ** **** **** **** may ** * ********** **** *** quite **** ****.

Goldring ********

** ********* **** ****** ** ********, and ** ********* ** ******* ******:

* **** ******* ** ****** *** unbiased.
*** ****** ******* **** ************** ** the *********** **** * ******** ********* wouldn’t ****** ** ** ****** ** any *********** ** **. ** *** will ** ***** * **** ****, rather * ******** ********* ***** ** brought ******* **. ******** *** ** everyday *****, ** ** ***** ******. Businesses *** ************* *** ** ******** to ******** *****.
******** ******* ****** ******* ** * business-owned *******, *** ******** ***/** **** code **********. ** *** **** ** jail, *** ******** ****** ****** ***** fines. ****’* * **** ***********:*****://***.*********.***/***-*-***********-**-*******-****-*-*****
*** ***** ** ** ********* ** that ** ******** (*** ********* ** your *******’ **********) **** ******* *********** by **’* ***** **** **** ****** the ******** ** ******** *** ********* them ******* ********** ***** *** *********. When ********* **** * ******, **** chose ** *********** ***** *** **** team ******* ** ****** *** ********* in *** ***** *****. ***, ***** on ***** ****** ***** ********, **** are ****** ** ***** **** ***** the ***. * ********* ***** - the ************ ** *** ******** ********* here. **** **** ***** ******** (*** a ***** *****) ** ** ** confirm ***** ********* *** ************* ******* met *** ********** ***** *** *********.
**** * **** ** **’* ********* of ******** ******.*****://***.**.***/*****/*/*****/*********/*****/****-**/**-**-*****-**.*-********.***
* ***** ***’** ***** *** ** stretch **** ** ** ********* ***** own ********* ******** — ********** ** the *** **. *****’* ****** ** being *******.
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****,
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** ****, ** **** ******* *** to ** *** **** **** ***** response **** ********.

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Comments (16)
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Brian Rhodes
Oct 18, 2019
IPVMU Certified

Goldring ********

** ********* **** ****** ** ********, and ** ********* ** ******* ******:

* **** ******* ** ****** *** unbiased.
*** ****** ******* **** ************** ** the *********** **** * ******** ********* wouldn’t ****** ** ** ****** ** any *********** ** **. ** *** will ** ***** * **** ****, rather * ******** ********* ***** ** brought ******* **. ******** *** ** everyday *****, ** ** ***** ******. Businesses *** ************* *** ** ******** to ******** *****.
******** ******* ****** ******* ** * business-owned *******, *** ******** ***/** **** code **********. ** *** **** ** jail, *** ******** ****** ****** ***** fines. ****’* * **** ***********:*** * *********** ** ******* **** a *****
*** ***** ** ** ********* ** that ** ******** (*** ********* ** your *******’ **********) **** ******* *********** by **’* ***** **** **** ****** the ******** ** ******** *** ********* them ******* ********** ***** *** *********. When ********* **** * ******, **** chose ** *********** ***** *** **** team ******* ** ****** *** ********* in *** ***** *****. ***, ***** on ***** ****** ***** ********, **** are ****** ** ***** **** ***** the ***. * ********* ***** - the ************ ** *** ******** ********* here. **** **** ***** ******** (*** a ***** *****) ** ** ** confirm ***** ********* *** ************* ******* met *** ********** ***** *** *********.
**** * **** ** **’* ********* of ******** ******.
* ***** ***’** ***** *** ** stretch **** ** ** ********* ***** own ********* ******** — ********** ** the *** **. *****’* ****** ** being *******.
**** *******. *’* ********* *** ***** out ** ***** ******, ** ** the **** *** **** ****** ******** unit ** ** *** **** *** the *********** ** ******* ********. *’* sure ** ***’*, *** ** ***** probably *** **** *********** ** *** indicated ** *** ******** ** *********** to *****.
**’* ******** ** *** '***** ********' to ******* **** * ** ***** IV, **** ****** *** ** ** career, * **** ********, ********* *** overseen ********* ** ** ************ ************* and **** **** ******** ** ** expert ******* ** ****** ** ***** involving ********** ******** *******.
****,
*****

** ****, ** **** ******* *** to ** *** **** **** ***** response **** ********.

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Oct 18, 2019

**** ** ******** ** **** **** a ********* ******** ** ***** *** Jentoft.

**** **** ******** *** ********** ** data ** *** ****** ** ****** that **** ***** ** ** *********** by **** ** ******?

* ***** **** ** **** ** that ** ******* * ** **** does *** **** * ******* ********** by *** ******. ********** **** * see * **-****** ******* * ********* only **** **** ** **** *** device ** *** ****** ** ***** an ********** **** ** ******* ***********. I **** ***** *********** * ** mark ** ******* ** ******* "**** device ****** ** ** *********** ** bypassed ** *** ******".

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Peter Goldring, SET, CFE
Oct 19, 2019
Peter M Goldring Consulting LLC

****** *** ****** **** *** **** comments. ** ***** ** ********** ** pinpoint *** **** ***** * ******* like **** *** ****** ******, ******** and/or *********. ** *** ****** ***** records **** **** *** **’* ********** to ****** *** ** *** ******** injury ***** *********.

*** *** *** ***** “******” *** “compromised”. **** ***** ***** ******* * short ** ******? * ******* ** varmint ******* * *****? ******* **** commented “****** *** ********* ********”. *’** seen **** **** *** ***** ***** an ******** ***** * ***** **** wall ** * ****** ** ****** a ****** **** *** ******* **, defeating *** ******.

**’* **** ** **** ********. ** means * ************ ****** **** * lot ** ***** *** **** ** submit ******* ******* *** ***** *******. Not **** **** *** ******* ***’* burn **** ***** **** (***** ** nice) *** **** **** ** (*** its ************ **********) **** *** ********** codes *** *********. * ************ **** this **** ** ******* **** ***** design, *********** *** ************* ********* *** all ** ** *****.

* *** ** ********* *** *******, like ** **** ** **’* ****. We *** * ******* *** ** Listed ******** *** ** ****** *** end ***** **** ***** *** *** installation. ********* ************ ****** ** *** listing ** ******** ****** ***** ****.

** ****** ****’* **** *** ***** 20P ** *****’* ******, ** **** didn’t **** ********. ****** *** * product **** ***’* **** **** ** past *** ******.

** *** **** *** ********** *********, or **** ** **** * ** minute ************ ** *** ***** ** to ** ******* **********.*** *** ***** out.

*****, ****** *** **** ******** *** keep ****** *********!

U
Undisclosed #1
Oct 19, 2019

**** ***** ***** ******* * ***** or ******? * ******* ** ******* causing * *****?

**** ***** * **** ******* ********* failing? **** ***** * *** ****** that ****** ***** ************ **** ****** next ** * **-** ****** *****? To **** ****** ** ********* ******* modes ****** ** **** *** ******? Should * ** ************* ***** *** practical ******* *****?

*’** **** **** **** *** ***** where ** ******** ***** * ***** rock **** ** * ****** ** access * ****** **** *** ******* it, ********* *** ******.

*** *****? **** ***** *** ** systems *** ********** *********, ** **** six ***** ** *******? ******* **** seems **** * **** *** ****** compared ** *** ***** ****** ** alarms *********. *****, ****** * ** certification ***** *** **** ** *** possible **** *****, ** **** *** most ********* ******** **********?

* ************ **** **** **** ** confirm **** ***** ******, *********** *** manufacturing ********* *** *** ** ** snuff.

**, **** ***'* (*'** **** ******* product ****** ****** ** ******* ******** that **** **** ********* *** ** testing. ** ************* ***** *** **** the ******* ************** *** * ******* in **** ********. ** **** ***** it ** ********, *** ***********, ** go ****** **'* ******* **************. *********, a ** **** ** ** ** way * ********* **** "******, *********** and ************* ********* *** *** ** to *****".

*** ** ****** *** *** ***** more ***** *** *** ************

*** *** ****** *** ****** **** to ******* * ******* ** ** has * ** *************? *** *** also ****** **** ** ***** *** install * ***-** ********* *******? *** you **** **** ******** ** ***** you ***** *** *** * ***-** product **** * ********** **-****** ******* exists?

** ****** ****’* **** *** ***** 20P ** *****’* ******, ** **** didn’t **** ********.

* **** ***** **** ***** * have **** ******** ** ******* ** product **************, **** **** **** ************ for ***** ******. ** *** **** a ****/********* ** *** **** ** the ** **** *********/************* ******* **** is ***** ** ************ ******* *** issue ***** ** ******* ********* **?

** *** **** *** ********** *********, or **** ** **** * ** minute ************ ** *** ***** ** to ** ******* **********.*** *** ***** out.

******, *** *'* **** ****** ** keep *** ****** *** ********** ****, so **** *** **** ******* *** get *** ******* ** **. * would ******* *** *** *** ******* of **** ** ****?

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Larry Tracy
Oct 20, 2019

** * *** **** **** **** on ********.

* ***** ** ***** ** * previous ****** ** **** ******* “**** about *** *** ***** ******* ***** that ***** ****** ** ****** *******, his ******** *** “*** ***** ** a ****” * ***** *** ******** is *** *** ** ******* ** address *** *** ***** ********* **** a ***** ****** ***** ****? ** there ** ******* **** ***** ** would *** *** ***** ********* ********.

**** **** ******* ***** *** ********* error?

* ***** **’ * ******** *** objective *** ** *** ***** , they **** ***’* **** *** ******.

* ***** ** *** **** ** what ** ********** *** **** ********* were ** ****** ** *** ****. I **** *** ***** ****** **** public ** *** ********** ** *** industry ** ****** ***** *** **********.

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Oct 18, 2019

*** ******* ***** ******** * ****, however *** **** ** ****** ******** IYI(**********) ********** ***** ****** *****. ****** are ********, ** ******** ****** ******** due ** *** ****** ****** *** lack ** ** *********** ******/*******/*********.

**, ***** ********* ** **** ** Top ***** **** ***** ** ******* of **** ******* **....* **** *** at **** ***** ********** **** ** can ****** * ********* ********/*********** ******* all *** *** *** ******** **** ups ******** ** *** ***.

*** **** *** *** ***, **** Closed.

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Peter Goldring, SET, CFE
Oct 19, 2019
Peter M Goldring Consulting LLC

**** ** ** *** *** ** Top *** **** *****. ** *** want ** **** * **** **** 30 ****** ************ ***** * **** serious *****, ** ** ** ******* pmgoldring.com *** *** ** **. ******!

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U
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Oct 19, 2019
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** *** **** ** **** * real ****...************...** ** ** *******...

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Undisclosed End User #5
Nov 11, 2021

** *****, *** *** ***** * subscriber ** **** **** "*** ** a ********** ******** *******" *** ***' "uneducated *********"

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Peter Goldring, SET, CFE
Nov 11, 2021
Peter M Goldring Consulting LLC

* ** ***** * **********. ** an ****** ******* *** ******** *******, I ** ***** ***** ***** **** and ***** ***** ****** * *** to ****** ***** *******.

******: **** ******* *** **** ***** to *** *** **********:"** ** ****** ******* *** ******** Analyst, * ** ***** ***** ***** IPVM *** ***** ***** ****** * Get ** ****** ***** *******."

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U
Undisclosed #4
Oct 19, 2019

It ** ************* **** ** ***** *** ** ***** **** ****** ***** *** ***.

**** ***? ** ********* *** ****** to **** '**** ******' ********* ******... you **** ******** **** ***** ******** position.

UL *** ********* ******** *******... ** **** **** *** ******* *** ***** ***** ** ******* **** **** *****. * ******* ***** ** *********** ********.

*** **** * ****** **** ***** analysis ****... *** *** ******** **** not **** *** ** **** ***** this '****** ****' (** *** **** characterization) - *** **** **** ******** the ****************** *** ***** ****'* **** ***** own *********?

**** **** **** **** **** ** reasoning.

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Shannon Davis
Oct 21, 2019
IPVMU Certified

* **** "******** ******", *** **** truly ***** *** *** ************* *** ****** *** **** ***** of ****** ** ** ******* ***** not **** ** ****** *** ** this ******** ******* *****. ** **** is ***** * **** *********** ******* to ****** **** *** ******** ****** of ***** ****** **** **** **** installed **** *** ***** **** *** wouldn't *******, **** *** ********* ** this *******, **** ** ***** *** technology ** **** ****** ** *** world ** **** **** ***** *** get *********.

** * **** ****** ** ******** posts, *** ******** ******** *** ****** into * ***** *** ******** ***** only ******** *** *** ******** ******* people ****** *** ******* ***** ******** and *****. * ********** ****** *** in ******** ** **** * ******, everyone **, *** ********* *******'* ****** trump *******?

* **** ************ ***** *** **** to ****** ** ** **** *** rather ** ******** **** *** ** help **** ****** ****!

**** **** ** *** *********** *****? Who ** ** ***** ****? ** is *** **** *******? * ******** see **** ***** *********** ** * flaw ** ***** ****** *** **** do * ****.

**** **** **** ***** **** * system ***** ** ***? * ********* off ** ***** ******** *****'* **** me * **** *** ***** *******. Note ***** ***** ** ** ******* version ** **** ******** *** ** writing **** ** **** **** ***** website *** **** *** *********** ** something.

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Chris Chambers
Oct 28, 2019

*****. ***** **** *** ** ** overblown ***** **** *** ****** ******** whether ** * **** *******, ***'* let **** ********/********** ***** ****** ***** your ******** ***** ******'* ******** ** an ****** ******* ** ****. *** vast ******** ** ****** ******** *** methods **** **** ***** ****** ********* from ********** ***** ******** *** *******.

**** ** ********** * ***** ***** can ** ** **** ****** *** save *****, *** **** *** ****** your *******. ** ***** ** ********* like: "***** **** *** *** ***** iPhone ********** *** ****** ** ***** cannot ** **** *************! ** **** were **** ***** ** ****** **** iPhones ******* ** *** *** **** that *** ** **** **** ****!" (Ignore *** **** ***** ****** *** to ****' *******.) *'** **** ******* developers *** * ******* **** ***** up ***** ******** **** * **** of ***% ******** ************ *** *** long **** "*************", ********** ***** *** majority ** *** ****** **** ****** by ****** ********* **** *** **** couple ******* ** *****.

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Oct 28, 2019
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***** **** *** *** ***** ****** developers *** ****** ** ***** ****** be **** *************! ** **** **** they ***** ** ****** **** ******* because ** *** *** **** **** can ** **** **** ****!

*** **** *** *** *** ******* their ****** ***** ***** ****** ****’*?

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U
Undisclosed #4
Oct 28, 2019

"***'* *** **** ********/********** ***** ****** cloud **** ******** ***** ******'* ******** to ** ****** ******* ** ****. The **** ******** ** ****** ******** and ******* **** **** ***** ****** profiting **** ********** ***** ******** *** methods."

**** ********* - *** *** ******* to ****** **** ***'* ********** ** not *** ***** ****, ***. * don't ***** ****** ** ******* ******* that.

*******, * ***** **** ** **** problematic - ** ***** ** ** - *** *****'* *** ********* *******.

** ****** **** **** * ***** back *** ********* ** ******** **** subscribers ** *** ***** ** *** invention - ** ***** ******* (*** I'm ***** ******** ****).

** **** ** ******** **** ***** marketing **** *** ******* *******, ********** to ******-*** ** **** (***) ********** litigation?

**** ***** **** ******* ** ****** to **** ******.

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Chris Chambers
Oct 28, 2019

** **** *** **-**** *******'* *******, which ** **** * *** **********. It's **** **** ******* **** **** specific *****.

* ***** **** ***** ******* ** Zwirn *** *** ****** ******** ** very ***********.