Tyco Blasts Mercury As Legacy, Outdated Technology

JH
John Honovich
Feb 20, 2020
IPVM

When did the access control market become so aggressive?

Last week we covered BluB0X Alleges Lenel, S2, Software House Are Dinosaurs and in reply to the Mercury Security 2020 Leap Year Firmware Issue, Tyco has blasted Mercury:

*** **** **** ***** ************ *****:

********? ******** ***** ******* ****** ******, outdated **********? ****...

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Jim Elder
Feb 20, 2020
IPVMU Certified

******? ******* ** ********? *** "*** Three"-- ******** *****, **** *** ******* (JCI) *** (** * ****** ******) Northern (*********) *** ***** ******* *** I **** ******** *** "**** ** the ***". **** *****, **** *** still ***** ******* **** (**********) ***** technology. *** **** *** *** **** to **. ***? ******* ** ******* have ** **** **** *** ****** for *** **** ** *****; *** if **** (*** *******) ** *** have *******, **** **** ***** *** way ** **-- ***** ******** *******. Seems ** **, *** **** ************ (Settle **** ****, ** "****" * mean **** *** ******* ******** *** be **** **** **** ********) ** far **** ********** ** ** ******* who ********* **** ** ******* ********** a *********** ******. * **** **** though ***** *********** (**** **) *** the **** ** ***** ****** ***** was **** *******, *** ** ******* the *********. **** ** ***** ***** said "***** *****".

*** *** ***** *** **********, *** about *** ******** ***** ** ***** proprietary *********, **** ** ********. * can **** *** ******* ***** ******* where ********* ***** **** **** ************ business ***** *** *** ****** **** from *** *********** ********. ** ********** say *** **** ***** *** * can *** ***** ***********, **** **** if *** ***, **** ******* ** open ******** ****** **** ** *** proprietary *****.

* ****** ** ***** ***, * designed **$** ******** *** ********** *** bid ** ***** ************* ***** **** open ************ ********. ***** *** *** was ******, *** ********* ** ******** that **** *** *** ******* ******** with ***** ******* ********. ***** ********* this, * ******* ******* **** ** the ***** *** **** **** *** first ***; ** **** **** *** have *** ** **** *** *** failed ** ****** * ****** ** forms. ****** *******, *** * **** make **** **** **** **** ******** notice ***** *** **** ** *** future.

** ** *** ***'* **** *** business... ** ****** *****'* ****** **** your ********** ** ******. *********? ******? The **** ******** **** ** ** outdated ******** *****....

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JH
John Honovich
Feb 20, 2020
IPVM

***** ** **, *** **** ************ (Settle **** ****, ** "****" * mean **** *** ******* ******** *** be **** **** **** ********)

* ***'* ********** *** ********** *********, Jim. ***** **** * ****** *** position ******* ******* ***** ****?

JE
Jim Elder
Feb 23, 2020
IPVMU Certified

** ********* ********. * ****...

UI
Undisclosed Integrator #1
Feb 21, 2020

**** *** ******* ** *** *** speaking ** ****** ****-***** *******? ** so, ** ** *** ****** * forklift ******* ** ****** ** ***, Onguard, ** ****** **** *** ******* board *******.

JE
Jim Elder
Feb 23, 2020
IPVMU Certified

***; ****-*****. *** ****** (** *** boards ******) *** *** **** ******* required *********** ** ******** ** *** application ******. ** *** **** ***** was ** ******-**** ********.

*** ** ***** ******* ******** **** 150 ***** ****** *** **, ****** and ****** (******** **** ***** *******). The ****** *** ***********. **** ** these ***** *** **** **** ** readers; **** *** ** *** ** 3. ** **** *** ** **-***** 20K ***********.

***** *** ***** * ********** ***** with ******* ******, *** *** ****** opted *** ******* ************.

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Lee Odess
Feb 24, 2020

* ****** ** ***** ***, * designed **$** ******** *** ********** *** bid ** ***** ************* ***** **** open ************ ********.

***'* ** **** ** ***** **** "open ************" **? *** ******** ***** that ******* *** ****** * ****** architecture **** ********* ***** **** ******* it ** ****.

** ** *** **** ** *** definition:**** ************ - *********(*** ****** **** ** *** **** definition *** ** ***** ***, **** use **), **** ***'* **** ** open ************. *** **** ******* ***** open ******* **** **** ** *** Store.

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UI
Undisclosed Integrator #4
Feb 24, 2020

****** ... *** ** **** ****** as **** ** *** *** ******* controllers, ***** ***** ** ***'* ****** open. *******, **** ****** ******* "****" these **** **** ***** ** * hardware ********* **** ** * ***** piece ** *** ********?

** ** **** ****** *** ********-***** "things" ** ** ****** ** **** since *** ************ ** *** ******** (hardware ******* *********** *** ****) ***'* as **** ** * ******. ******* is ********* ** ******* ** * company **** *** * **** *** with *** ********* "*****", ******, ***** they **** *********** ** ****** *** hardware ****** *** ************* **** ** the ****** ******* ******** *** ******** the ******** ******** ******** *** ** many *** ********* ... *** *** is * ***** ******* ** ***** for *********** ***** ** *** **** can ***** ***** ******?

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U
Undisclosed #5
Feb 25, 2020

**** **** *** ******* **** **.

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Undisclosed #2
Feb 23, 2020

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Undisclosed Integrator #3
Feb 23, 2020

* ***** **** ** **** ***** solution ** *** **** *******...

**** **,*** ******* - *********

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Lee Odess
Feb 24, 2020

* ***** ***** ** ** *** 17th *** ****

“**, ** ** ********, **** * hard ***** ** *** *** ******* Security.”

**, ** ** ********, **** * hard ***** ** *** *** ******* Security. — ********

*** *’* *** **** **** *** the ****** *** *** ********* ** correct.

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UI
Undisclosed Integrator #4
Feb 24, 2020

* ***** **** **** **** ** read **** **** **** *** **** you've ********, *** *** **** ***** nearly ****** **** *** **********, ****** it ********* ********* ** ****.!

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Lee Odess
Feb 24, 2020

*****. *** ***** *** ******** ** be ******** *** * ******* ***** to *** ******* 😀. **** ** at (***) ***-**** *** * *** read ** ** ***. ** **** me ***** *** *’** **** *** post **** ** ***.

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Undisclosed #5
Feb 25, 2020

**** **** *** **** ** ***** out ****?

*** *** *****-******** ****/******* ****.

** *****.

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U
Undisclosed #2
Feb 24, 2020

*'* *** ****** * ******** **** you, *** * **** ** ********* to ****** ** ****** ***** ** justification ** **** **** (*** ***, I *** **** *** ** ** regardless ** *** ****) ******* ** just ******* ********* ********** *** ******** you ********* ** *******.

**** ******** ***** **** * ***'* find ** **** ****:

*. *** ** ****** ******* *** more "****" **** ***? *** *** are *** ******** "***" ****? *********? iClass? ****** **? ****** ****? *'* not **** *** ********** *** ** MiFARE ***** *** ****** **** ** less "****".

** ** **** ********, *** "****-**" that ****** **** *** ****** *** because ** ******** ******** **** *** does ** *****'* **, *** ******* people **** ** *** *** **** credential ****** *** *****. *** **** thing ****** **** ****** (** *** flavor). *** **** ********** ** ****....*** also ******** ****** ******* ***, ***** with ******, ****** **, ****** ****....*** on *** **. ** *****...**** ** it **** *** ** ** ***'* doing ** ***** "****-**"?

*. **** ** ** **** ******* is ***** **** *** ***'* ******* is "****" ** "******"? *** ***** to *** *** * *** ** information (**** * **** ** ***** ********), *** *** ***'* **** *** justification ** ******** ** * *** that ******* ***'* **** ** ******** they *** / ****'* ***** ** be "******".

*. ** ******* *** **** ************* understand ***, *** *** ******* *** implementing ** **** **** *** ******* platform -- ** ** ** ************* implemented -- **** ****** ** * meaningful ***?

*. *** *** ******* *** "******** your *** *******" ************ ******** ******** over ******** ******* ** ****** + credential **********?

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Lee Odess
Feb 25, 2020

****** *** *** **** ****. ****** things **** * ***** **** **** level *** ** ***** * ** coming ****.

- *'* *** ******** ********** *** one ******* **** *******. **** **** examples ** **** ************. ** *** an ******* ** *** **** ******** but **** *********** **** * ***, in ** *******, ** ****** ************ (by ** ***********).

- *'* *** **** ****** ** this **** * ********* **** *** point ** **** **** *** *** also ********** *** ******** ****** ****, past *********** **** ***********, ************, *** a **** ** *** *, *****, in ** *******, **** ** ***** be ** * **** ******, **** advanced ***** ** ** ******** ** we ********* **** **** ********* *** methods.

- ** **** *****, **** ****** DESFire ***, *** ** ******* **, in ** *******, * ****** **** open ******** **** *** (**** ** your ******) *** ******* ** *** actual ********** *** *** ******** ********* and ****** ***** ****** **. ** full **********, * ***'* ***** **'* the ****** ****** ******* ** ** not ******* "****" ** ********* ********** but ** ** "**** ****" ** business ***** **, ** ** *******, it's ****** *** ******** ** *** value *****.

** **** ******** *********/********:

*. *** *******. ********** ** *** technologies ****, **** ***** ** *** most ***** *** *** ******** *********, models, *****, **********, *** ** ********** of *** ** ** ************. ** a *****, * ***** ** ******* innovation. *****, ** *******. ** ***** HID, ***** ** ** *********** **** I **** ** ** *** **** from * ********* ***** ** **** but ** * ******** ********* (********* included). ***** * *** *** **** heart **** ** ****** *** ****. So ** ** ******* ******** ****** with *** ********* *****, * ******* they *** "**** ****."

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*. *** * (*** ****** ******* manufacturer) ***** *** ****** ******* ******** to *** ******* ********? ** ** licensed ** **** * *** **** the ******* ******** *** ** *******, modified, *******, *** *********** ** ******? No, **'* ***. ** ** **** case, **'* *** "****." ** *** be **** **** ** "*** **** openest" *** *** *** ****.

** ** **** **** ***** **** they ***** *** *** ****** ** the ********.

*. ** *****, ******* *** ******** enough, *** ********** ** ******* ** the ****** ********* *** *** ** is *********** (** * *****). *** just *** *** ******** ** *** own. * *** ******** ** * more * ******-******* / ************* ***** where ** *** *** *** ************** (device *** *****) *** **** *** way ******* **** **** ********** ** (given ** ******** ** *** ** and ** ******* *** ** ******* based ** ************** *** **********). **** speaks ** ******* ****** * **** around **********-**** ******* *** **** **** computing **** ****** ******.

*. ******** ** *** "******** **** own ******," ** ***** ** **** is ******* **** **** ******** (**. margins, ******** ******** *** **********, ***) - ***** * ***** *** ** important ** ******** *** ** ****** you ******** ******** ** ********, ** my *******, *** **** **** ******* over *** ******** *** ******** **************, development ******, *** *****, ***** ** my *******, ***** *** **** ********. There ** * *** **** **** goes **** "**** ***** **" *** details **** ***** **** ** ** flushed ***, *** ** * **** level, * *******, ********, *** *** yourself ** * ****** **** **** position.

*'** ***** *** ****... **** *** up * **** ****, ****** *** join *** ** ******* **** ******. I ***'* *****, ** ** ********, we **** ****** ************ ************* *** debates. *'* ******* *** *********** ** your ***** ** ********, **** **** mine *** ******, ** ******* *** communicate ************ ** *** **'* **** products ** ********, ****, *** **** help ***** ******** ******.

*****, ** ****** ** ***-***-**** / email *****@********.***. ****, ****, *****.

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Undisclosed #5
Feb 25, 2020

**** **.

*** ** ** ****, *** ** them!

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UI
Undisclosed Integrator #6
Mar 11, 2020

**** **, ***** ** ** **** thing ** ** **** ***** ******. But ***'* **** **** ***** ******* hardware ** ***** ****** *** *** user ** ***** *** ******** *** have * ******* ********* ** *** system (********) *** ******* ******** ** wants ** ****** ** ******* ****** the ******* ** ********* *** *** hardware? *** *** **** ** ******** you **** *** ** ***** *** customer * **** *********** ******* **** he ***'* ** ****** ** **** a ******** ********? *** * ********** that **** ** ********* *** ******** and *** *********** **** ****** ***** customer * *** *** *** **** to **** ********* ****** ** **** can **** ** ***** *********. ** basically **** **** ** *** ********* models ** ********* *****.

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Lee Odess
Mar 11, 2020

********** * ** *** ******* ** just **** **. *** ****** ******* industry **** **** * ***** ** open, ******, *** ******* *******. * am **** ********** ** *** ********** reasons *** **** ***** *** *** or ******* *****. ** *** **** at ****** *** ***** ***** **********, it ** ********** ** **** ** this ***. *** * ***** ** is ****** *** ***, *********, *** the ******** ** ** ****.

U
Undisclosed
Mar 12, 2020

************** ***** **** ** ****** ** quite ******. ************** *** ***** ***** as ****** ** *********.

UM
Undisclosed Manufacturer #8
Mar 12, 2020

Proprietary ****** ******* ******** = If you have to change the controllers and/or readers in order to use a ********* ****** ******* **************** *** ****Proprietary ****** ******* ********

**'* ****** *** **** ***********

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UM
Undisclosed Manufacturer #9
Apr 23, 2020

************* ****** **** ** ***** ** the ******* ** *** *******, ***** is ********.

* ****** **** ********** ***** ********* many ****** ** *** *** *** on **** ********* **** **** ******** differences ** ******** ************ *** ******** of *** ******* *** *** ***** it ** **** **!

** * ****** ********** ** ** a ****** **** **** ****** *** simply **** * **** ** ** take **** ******* ** ** - is * *** **** *** ********** opposes **** ******** ********** ****** ** the ******** ******** ** ******* ******* such ** ****** *****.

************ ******** ******** ** *** ******* and ******** ** ******* ******* ******* the ******* ** ***** *** *********** ground *** **** ** **** *** inventive ************* ** *** **** **** is ******* ** * ********* **** to *** ** *** **** ***** in *********** *** ** *** **********!

*********** ** **** ******** *** ******** in ******** ** ***** ****** ** by *** **** *********** ************ ** create *** **** **** ****** *** groundbreaking *********. ** ******** ****** ** was ********* *** **** ******** *********** groups ** **** *** ***** **************** **** **** ****!

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