Tech Loses Expensive Tester, Who Pays?

Undisclosed Integrator #1

12/13/17 06:30am

A tech lost a $1200 Fluke tester. He doesn't remember where he left it. He went to the last job it was used at but can't find it.

Whose responsibility is it?

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John Honovich

IPVM | 12/13/17 09:48am

**** ***** *****:

Undisclosed #2

12/13/17 10:32am

** **** * ********* ******* ** **************** ** *** ******** or **** * *****?

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Jonathan de Chateau

12/13/17 12:05pm

* ***** **** * ****** **** **** ** *** * better ****.

*** **** *** ** ****** *** ***?
**** *** *** *** ***** *********/******?
*** *** *** ******* ************?
*** ** ***** ** **** ** *** *****?

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Ari Erenthal

Chesapeake & Midlantic | 12/13/17 01:28pm

******* ** *** ****. ** ****'** ***** * ******* ** carelessness, *** *** ******** ****** **** **** *** *** *** tester (* ****** ** * ****, *******) ** **** ****. If **** ** ** ******** ********, ******, * ******* ** probably ****.

John Honovich

IPVM | 12/13/17 02:20pm

*******, ** **** ****** ****** **** **** ***** **** ** a *** *****, ** ***** ** ***** ****** * ******* policy ** ** ******** ****** ** ***** ****. ***** ***** be ******** **** "* ****'* **** * *** ***********", ***.

****, *** ************* ******** ** ****? *** *****?***** ***** ***** *** ******** ********

Keefe Lovgren

IPVMU Certified | In reply to John Honovich | 12/14/17 02:15am

*****, *******, ********* **** ***** ***** *** ******* *** ** there *** ** * ********* *** ** ***** **** **** the ******** ********.

** ***** ****** (** *****) *** *** *** **** ** deduct **** ** ********'* ******** *** ******** ***** **** ***** ordered **********, ******* ********, ***** *** ******* ************ ******* *** employee's ************* ** *******. **, ** **** *** ********** *** see *** ***** ** ***** *** *** *** ******* ** sign ************* *** *** **** ** **, ** *** **** your *** ** ****.

John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Keefe Lovgren | 12/14/17 02:34am

*****, **** *****. **** ** *** **** ** ***** **** would ******* **** * ***** ******.

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Joseph Parker

In reply to John Honovich | 12/20/17 02:03pm

* *** * ***** ******* ******* ********* *** ***** ***** on ******** ****** *********, *** **'** ***** **** ********** *** questions **** ****. ** **** **** *** ** ***, **** look ** ***** *** ******* **** *** **** ** ****** thumbs **, ****** ****, ** "**'* ***** *** *** ***********".

John Stenmo

In reply to Keefe Lovgren | 12/20/17 05:26pm

**** ** **********. ** **** **** **** * **** ** regard ** ************** *** ******* ****** *****, *** ** *** end ** *** ***, ** **** ** *** *** **.

Undisclosed Integrator #3

12/13/17 02:25pm

**** ** ****. ** *** * **** *** *** ** his ***** ****** *** ** *** **** ** *** ***** because ** **** *** ***** **** ****. *** ********** ******** says **** *** ***** *** *********** *** ********* ***** *** tools. *******, **** **** ** * **** **** ** ** gave *** **** ***** ** ** *** *** *** **** more *****. *** ****** ** ***** ********** *** ****** ** take *** **** ****. ***** ** *** ***** * ****** time? *** ****, ******* ** *** *********.

** *** ***'* **** ******** ***** ** ** **** ******** handbook ** ******** **** *** ****** ***'* **** *** *** for **. **** **** **** ****** * *** ********. **** is **** ******* *** ***. ** ***** ** ******** ** not ****** *** ** ***** ******* ** *** *** *********. If **** ** ********* **** **** **** *** **** ********* bonus ** **** ******* *** *** ******* ***. **** *** make ** ** *** **** ******* ** **** **** ****.

Undisclosed Integrator #5

In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #3 | 12/14/17 03:20am

****** **. **** *** *** ******** ******... ***** *** **** have **** **** ********* *** ******* ******* *** ***** ******? Perhaps, *** ** ** ** *********** **** *** ****** ***** you "****" ** ********* ****? *'* ****** ******* **** ** the **** *** **** *** *** ** ******** *** **** he ***** **** **** **** **** ******* **** **.

*'** *** ***** **** *****'* ******* **** *** ***** ** provide **** ** *** ***** ** ******** **** *** **'** had ** ******** **** *****. ******** ** ***, **** *** no ****** **** *** *******. * ****** ** **** ***** their **** ***** **** ****, * *** ******* **** **** do ** * ****** ****. * ***'* ****** ** **** clients ******* * **** ** *** ********.

Rodney Thayer

In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #3 | 12/21/17 06:58pm

*** **** ** *********** *** ***** *** *****. ** **** service ***** ******* **** **** ****'* ****** ******. ****** **** tech ***** **** ****** * $** ***** ***** ****** ******'* ever ***** ** ***** ****? ***'* **** ******** ***** ***** who **** ******* *** *** ** *** ****** *****?

** **** ****** ******** * ****** **** ***** ***** *** the ***** ** * *** ****, ***.

Robert Shih

IPVM | 12/13/17 03:08pm

**** *** **** ** ******** ****, **** ** ******** **********. Not ******** **** **** * ******* ******* ** ***** *** variables **** **** ****** *** ****.

********* ***** ** *******: ** **** ***** **** ** *** their *** ******, ***** ***** ****** **** ***** *** ***** and ******* ******?

Rodney Thayer

In reply to Robert Shih | 12/21/17 09:33pm

***** ****** ***** ****** *****. *** ***** *** ********** *** their **** ******* **** **** *** ********. ** ****** *** people **** *** *** "** *** **** **** ** *** tools, *****?" ************ ****** ******** ***********. **** **** *** *** the "** *** **** ******** ** **** ****** ***** **** us ** *** *** ****" ************ ****** *** *********.

Undisclosed Integrator #4

12/13/17 03:33pm

*’* *** *** ****. ***’* *** * ********* ** ****** for ***** *** ** ************.

Robert Shih

IPVM | In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #4 | 12/13/17 03:39pm

* **** ******* **** **** ***** *** **** ** **** and ********* *** **** ** **** ****. **** ** ** has ** *** *** **, ** **'* * **** **** you ****** ****** *** **** * *** ** ****** ** something ** *** *** *** **** ****.

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Brian Rhodes

IPVMU Certified | In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #4 | 12/13/17 04:30pm

**** ** *********, *** * ***** **** ****.** * **** **** ****, *** ****** * ****** ******* else ** *** *** **?

***** ** *****, *** ** **** *** **** ** ** negative ** ****** ********.

*** *** ******** **** **** ***** ** ** ****/**********'* *****. The ****** **** **** **** ** ******* ** **** **** of ******** **** ***.

Undisclosed Integrator #7

In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #4 | 12/20/17 08:19pm

****** ***'** ********* ** **********, ***** ***** ** ** *********. A ******* ******* ** **** ** *** *** ** ******* unless **'* ****** ** ** ************** ******* ******* ***** ** what's ******* (*.*. ****, ********, ***.). ********** ***** ** *********** isn't **************. ** *** ******** ** ******** **** ************ ********* work *** **** ******** ***'* ** ******** ** *** **** of *******, *** ***** ***** ** ** ***** ** ** eat *** **** ** *** ****** *** ****** *** ******* and **** *****,ESPECIALLY ** *********.

*** ******* *** ** **** * ******** ** ** **** the **** ********* *** **** *******.

oleg Kush

12/13/17 03:41pm

******* ** ******. ** **** ***** *** *** ******** ****** car ********... *********** ** ** ** ******** ***** *** ******* should *** ********** *** **** **... *** **** *** **** ticket *** ****** ***** *** ***** *******... ** ** ***.

***... ** **** ****** ******* **** ** ****'* *** **** sign ** ** *** ******* **** ** *** *****.... ******* is *** ****** ********

Robert Shih

IPVM | In reply to oleg Kush | 12/13/17 03:46pm

***** ** ********** ** **** **** *****. ** **'* **** careless ********* * ******* ** *** ***, **** **** ***** his **** *****? ***'* ***** **, ****.

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Brian Karas

IPVM | 12/13/17 03:46pm

*** **** ****** **** ** ***** **** *** ***, *** set * ****** ****** *** ********* ***** ** *** **** of *********. *********, ***** ** *** **** *** ****? ***** you ***** *** **** *** * $** **** ** * $1200 ***? * $** ****? * $*** ****? ** **** point **** ******* ******** ******** **** "*****'* ******" ** "**** counts", *** **** ****** ** ******* *******.

*** ********* *****, **** **** **** **** **** *** *****, it ** ****** ** **** * ****** ********/******* *******, ** well ** ** ********** ********* *****. ************* ***** ** **** when **** ****** ***** ******* ** **** ********* ** *********, and * **** ***** *********** **** ******* ******** ****** ***** in ****** ** ******** ******* ******.

** ******** *** **** *** ** ******** ********* **, ** well ** ***** ******** "***, **** ***** *** **" ******, you **** * **** *********** ******, ************ ****/** ** ******** leaves *** ***** ** *** ********* **** "* *****'* **** that ****** ** ******* ******, * ******* ******* **** ******** it **** ** *****".

Dennis Widdows

12/13/17 06:26pm

* ****** *** *** ****** ***** *** * *** * tech *** *** **** ** *** ** ***** *** * trained *** *** ********** ** **** ********* ***** ***** ****** and ***** *************...** **** * ******* ****** ********* *****, ******, service ******** ***...******* **** *** ***** *** *********** *** ***** tools *** ******* ***** ********* ** *** *** **** *** too *** **** *** ****...*** *** ** *** ** ** to * ***** **** ***** ** **** ** **** **** minute ******** ** *** *** **** *** ******* * ******* van ****** **** *****, ******, ******, ********, * ***** ***** drill *** ******* ***** ************ *********...** *** *** ****** *** doors ** *** ******* **** *** ********* ******** **** ***** we *** *** ** ******* ** *** ***** **** *** of *** **** ***** **** ** **** ********** ** *** fixed *** ************ ***** ** *** ** *** ***** *** Van *** ****** ** **** ** **** *** ** *****...** to ** * ***** ** *****...

**** ** **** ** * ***** *** ** *** ***** that *** ** *** **** ***** ** *** *** ***** loaded **** ***** **** ** **** *** ********* **** *** working ** *** **** ***** **** ***** **** **** ** the **** ** ***** **** **** *** *** ** *** not **** ** *** **** *** *** ***** ** **** van ** ** ***** **** ** ** *** ** **** install *****...** ****** ** *** *** **** *** ** *** not **** **** ** *** ** ** **** ** ***** and **** ***** **** ** ***** *** * ***** *** his ****** **** ***...* *** ****** ** **** *** **** like ******* *** *** ** *** *** *******...*** **** ** are **** ** ******* ** ** *** **** **** ** it ** *** ******* ** **** ******* *** **** ******** off ** * ******* ***...

* **** *** ** **** ** *** ********* ******* ** his ***** *** **** ** *** **** **** ** ***** use **** ***** **** ** *** ********...****** *** **** ** was **** **** **** *** **** * ******** **** *** a ***** *** **** ** **** ** *** ******* *** like * *****..****** **** **** ** *** ********** ******* ***** his **** ***** *** **** ** **** ******* *** *** etc...which *** ***** ** ** * *** *** *** * check **** *** ********* ******* **** ***** * **** *** one...

********** ** ****** *** ************ *** * **** ***** * told *** ** **** ******* ***...** **** ** ** *** long *** * ***** **** *** *** **** ***** ********** but *** *** **** *** ********...** ********** * ***** ** would ** * ******** **** **** **** ****** ** **** just ******* *** **** **** **** *******-- **** ****** ** was ******* ** *****...

* ***** ** ****** ** **** ****** *** ****** ***** all *** ********* * ***** ** ******** *** *** *** lack ** *************** ** *** *********** *** ********** *** ** an ***** ** *********** ** **** ********* **** *** ********...

**** ******* ** *** **** *** *****...

Undisclosed #2

In reply to Dennis Widdows | 12/13/17 08:02pm

** ********** * ***** ** ***** ** * ******** **** have **** ****** ** **** **** ******* *** **** **** more *******-- **** ****** ** *** ******* ** *****...

*****, *** *** **** ** ******* **** ********* ** **** someone’s *** ** ********* * ***’* *** ** **** ******.

*’* **** *** **** ********...

Dennis Widdows

In reply to Undisclosed #2 | 12/13/17 08:16pm

* *** **...* **** **** **** *** ***...* *** **** giving * ******** **** ****** *** ** *** ********* ** all ******** ** ** ** ***** **** ****...

** **** ******* ** *** **** ** **** *******...** *** not ***** ********...

** *** **** ********* ** ***** ** ***** ** *** potential **** ** ***** *** ****** ** **** * ********* more ********** **** *** ****...

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Ari Erenthal

Chesapeake & Midlantic | In reply to Undisclosed #2 | 12/15/17 12:59pm

* **** **** ** **** ** ****. ******, ****** ****, in **** ******.

Dennis Ruban

In reply to Dennis Widdows | 12/20/17 04:02pm

* *** * **** *** *** **** ** *** ** years

*** ****

* ***** ** ****** ** **** ****** *** ****** ***** all *** ********* * ***** ** ******** ***

** * ** * ********** **** ****** *** **** * different **** ** *********, *** *****, ** ****** *** ****** good. "* *** ** **** ****** ** **** ***** ***, after ** *****, **'* ******, *** * **** ** *** another ***!"

*** **** ***** *** *** **** ******* **** *** *****? Was *** ******** *** **** ** ***** *** *** *** (inflation-adjusted)? * *****, ** ***** **** *** **** ******* ** the **** ******** ** * ***** ******* ** ******* ** stupidness, **** ***. * ****** ** ** ****** *** *-* years ** ******* ********** ** * ***. ** *** *** not * ******** ******, *** **** ** **** ******* ***** several *****, ** *** ****** ********** **** *** *******.

Albert Matthes

12/14/17 01:04am

* $**** *****, * ***** ***** ** **** *** **** unless **** *** * ********** *******. * *** ** ***** know **** ****** *** ***** **** **** *** ********* *** to **** **** ** ****. * **** **** *** **** drills *** ***** ****** *** ** **** **** ** ***** they **** ** *** *** **.

Undisclosed Integrator #6

12/20/17 01:16pm

*** **** ** *** ******* **** *** ****** $***. ******** screws ** ***** **** ** * *****. **** **** ** mind, *** ***** *** **** **** ** ** **, *** replacement ********* **** * *** ** *** ****** *** * note **** ******* **** *** ****** *** ** ** ****. This ** ** *** ******** ******.

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Brian Karas

IPVM | In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #6 | 12/20/17 01:31pm

*** **** ***** **** *** ***, *** *** *** ***** buy *** ***********/** *** **** **** *** ****** ***** **** cheaper ** ****, *** **** ******* **** ********.

** ***** ** * ***** *** **** ** ****, **** locksmiths *** *** *** *** ** ******* *****.

******** *** ********* *** *********** **** **** ****** *** **** one. ** **** ***** *** **** * ********** ********** **** to *** * *** *** ******, ********* *** ******* ******* extremely *******. *** ***** ******** (**** ** *** ***** *** this), ** ***** ***** ** *** *** ***** *** ******* it ** *****.

Dennis Ruban

12/20/17 04:05pm

** **** *************, *** ***'* ****** **** ******** ** **** question ** *** ***** *** ** ***** ** ******* ** be

Undisclosed #2

In reply to Dennis Ruban | 12/21/17 07:39pm

**** ** ***** ** ***** ********** *** **** *** ******** has ****** * ********* **** *****?

Undisclosed Integrator #7

In reply to Undisclosed #2 | 12/21/17 07:48pm

***. *** ***** **** ** **** **** ** ***** ** you ****** ** ******* *** *****, *** ********* ** ***** law *** ********* **** ****** **** ***** ** *** ****** that ****'* ** *********** *** *********** ***** ** ******* *************. In ** ************ ** ******** ***'* **** ******* ** ****** the **** ** ********.

** *** ***** ** ****** ***** *** **** ***** ** my ************ *** ****** *** ***** ********* ******** ***** ******************* **** ***. **** ***** ******* *** ************ ** *********** the ******** *** ***** ********** *** **********.

Undisclosed #2

In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #7 | 12/21/17 09:44pm

****’* **** ************?

Undisclosed Integrator #7

In reply to Undisclosed #2 | 12/21/17 09:48pm

*****://***.***.**.**/******/*********/***,**********,*********.****#****

**** ***** ** ****** ****** ** ******** **** *********’ *****?

********* ****** ****** ******** ** **** *** ******* ******* ** providing ******* ********. ********* ****** ******* ******** ******** **** *** wages ** *********.

************ ********** *******:

  • **** ** **** *******
  • **** ** ****** ** ******* ******** *** ******** (*.*. ********* deductible, ******* *******, ** ***** **********, **** *** ********* ** photo ***** ****** ** * *** ***** ****** *******)
  • Cost ** ****, ****** ** ****** *****, *********, ********, ** ****** *******
  • **** ** **** ** ********* *********, **** & ******, ** drive ****
  • **** ** ******** ****** *********
    • ****** ********* ** ** ********’* **************. ***** *** ********** *** safety ******** *** **** ****** ********. ******* *** ********* ****** and ****** ****** ** ***-***-**** ** ***** ***** ******* ************.*** for **** ***********.
  • **** ** * *******

Undisclosed #2

In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #7 | 12/21/17 10:18pm

*****://***.***.**.***/****/**************.***

***** ** ** ********* ** *** ********* ********* ** *** Industrial ******* ********** **** ****** **** ******** ** ******* *** employer *** ***** ** ****** **** ** ********'* ***** *** any **** ********, ******** ** **** ** ********* ** *** employer *** **** **** *** ********, ******** **loss ** ****** ** * ********* ** ******* ***, ** ** *** ********'* ***** **********. What this means is that a deduction may be legal if the employer proves that the loss resulted from the employee's dishonesty, willfulness, or grossly negligent act. Under this regulation, a simple accusation does not give the employer the right to make the deduction. The DLSE has cautioned that use of this deduction contained in the IWC regulations may, in fact, not comply with the provisions of the California Labor Code and various California Court decisions. Furthermore, DLSE does not automatically assume that an employee was dishonest, acted willfully or was grossly negligent when an employer asserts such as a justification for making a deduction from an employee's wages to cover a shortage, breakage, or loss to property or equipment.

***** ****** * $**** **** *** *** **** ******* **** or ** **** *** **** ** *** **** ** ******* as “***** **********”?

** ***, **** *****?

Undisclosed Integrator #7

In reply to Undisclosed #2 | 12/22/17 01:05am

* ***'* **** **** ********** ***** **** *** ** ** with ********'*, *** ** *** **** **, ****** * **** does *** ***** ** ***** **********.

***** ********** ******** **** **** ** ************ ** ****** ********* for ******. ***** ****** ****** ** ******* *****'* *******.

*[*** * ******]

Undisclosed #2

In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #7 | 12/22/17 01:56am

* ***'* **** **** ********** ***** **** *** ** ** with ********'*...

** ***. ******* ** **********/****** *********, *** **** **** **********. “*******” ****** **** **** * ***-*** :)

Undisclosed #2

In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #7 | 12/22/17 01:59am

***** ********** ******** **** **** ** ************ ** ****** ********* for ******. ***** ****** ****** ** ******* *****'* *******.

**** ***.***:

*[** *******]

Undisclosed Integrator #7

In reply to Undisclosed #2 | 12/22/17 02:05am

**** ** ***** ****** **** ******** ******* *) ***** ************ is *********, *** *) ** ** *** ** ****** * judge **** ** ** **.

* ***** *** ******* ****** *** *** **** ** *** tester, ********** *** ********, *** **** **. ** **'* * problem, **** ***. ** **'* * **** ****, ***** ** up ** *** **** *** ******** *** *** ***** ******* he's ******* *** *** **** ******** ** ** ** *** that ***'** ******** *** ******* ** ****** *** * (*** time) ****.

Undisclosed #2

In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #7 | 12/22/17 04:01am

**** *** ******** ***** ********** ;)

Undisclosed Manufacturer #8

12/21/17 12:10am

**** ****** **** ***** **** ****** ***** ** ** **** right ***? * **** ** **** **** ** ******** *** had ***** **** **** ******. **** *** *** ** ******* from * ******** **** ******* **** *** ********* (****** ******/****/***** received) * ******'* **** *** ****** ** * ****** ** watching *** **** **-****.

Undisclosed Integrator #7

In reply to Undisclosed Manufacturer #8 | 12/21/17 12:14am

**********. ****** *** * ******** **** ****** *** **** ******* in *** ***** ****** ********** * *** ****** *** **** happens *** **** ***** **** *** *****.

** ****** **** ******** *** ****** ****** ** ****** ** their ***** ****** *** ** **** *****'*, ** ** ***. Definitely **** ** *** ** ****, ******, *** ***** **** shops. * *** ** "****" ********* ** ************ **** ***.

Undisclosed #2

In reply to Undisclosed Manufacturer #8 | 12/22/17 04:21am

**** ****** **** ***** **** ****** ***** ** ** **** right ***?

****, *** *** ***** **** **** * **** ** *** ;)

Rodney Thayer

12/21/17 07:00pm

** **'* ********* ****** ** ** ******* ** *** ** should **** * ***** ** **. ****. ******, * ***** tied ** *** **** ** **** ***'* **** **** **** the ***** ******. ******* * ***** ***** ** ** *** really **** ********* ******* **** **'* ******* ****** ** ** nobody *** ****** *** *****.

********** **** ******* ** **** *** ********* *** ** *** probably ****** **** *** ********* $**** ******* **** **** ** time ** ****-**-*****-********.

Undisclosed Integrator #7

In reply to Rodney Thayer | 12/21/17 07:49pm

** *** ******** ****** **** *** ********* $**** ******* **** time ** **** ** ****-**-*****-********.

*********.

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