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Residential NVR Suggestions

UI
Undisclosed Integrator #1
Oct 26, 2018

Hello, we are happy with the nvr we have been using for commercial installations...

The thing is... now we are getting more and more residential customers.

Setting up remote access can be a bit of a pain with our current nvr.

Any suggestions of a more "residential friendly" nvr?

Here are the things I would like to get away from:

port forwarding.
complicated account setup for P2P / Cloud.

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Sean Patton
Oct 26, 2018

Are you looking for an all-in-one appliance (PoE switch built in)? What is your typical budget for NVR hardware?

EDIT:

We have tested a few VMSes that offer remote connectivity without port forwarding (OpenEye, EagleEye, Network Optix), but they cover a big range in costs and hardware capabilities.

Network Optix is software only, Eagle Eye is a VSaaS solution that relies on the cloud for the majority of the system storage, OpenEye has end-to-end hardware offerings.

These may all be solutions that are outside of your typical residential customer's budget.

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Clint Hays
Oct 26, 2018

I suggest you look at IDIS.

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U
Undisclosed #2
Oct 26, 2018

Axis Companion has good cloud / remote access, not as inexpensive as Chinese though.

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Chris Anderson
Oct 27, 2018

I have been testing Verkada with cellular connections and have been happy.  This works for us because we manufacture a modular control housing, so aren't limited in terms of deployment requirements.  No port forwarding is required, access can be easily manged and shared amongst any number of users as needed.

 

Thanks!

Chris Anderson

UI
Undisclosed Integrator #3
Dec 31, 2018

I am not seeing how a Verkada camera starting at $699 would be a solid fit for a residential type application? 

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JH
Jay Hobdy
Dec 31, 2018
IPVMU Certified

Dahua's P2P set up is very easy. Just check the enable XX ( I forgot what they call it) and use the SN and credentials to get in on your other device.

 

If you can get past all the other issues...

U
Undisclosed #4
Dec 31, 2018

I'd venture to guess you can't get rid of port forwarding. If you don't set port forwarding yourself, then you are relying on a zeroconf protocol like P2P, which sacrifices security for ease of configuration. If you research P2P, you'd get the impression that it's a secure method to use, but the security implications are horribly underrepresented and they are likely not well understood, even by security researchers as each vendor may implement it differently. P2P was and is a bad idea.

Another perspective which may not be as relevant as we are talking about residential networks, but P2P would likely never be allowed on any network of importance. P2P is designed to "punch-a-hole" through firewalls with what is effectively a reverse-shell. Port forwarding is considered the "front door" of a network and P2P effectively offers an attacker a route to access the network without even going through the firewall, so no.

With all of that said, I am unaware of a product that would help you get away from the challenges you stated without going against what we do in the first place.

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Cary Menage
Dec 31, 2018
IPVMU Certified

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Matthew Del Salto
Dec 31, 2018
Hudson Security
Nx/Dw Best experience for the enduser especially residential. Cloud access removes the need for port forwards. All of our residential integrators are very happy with this solution.
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