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Jeff Zwirn Offers $5,000 To Debate Advocate For Central Station Operators Working From Home

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Sean Patton
Aug 09, 2023

Related: ADT Changing Model To Work From Home, Monitoring Alarm Systems From Home - Innovation or Danger?

Ken Kirschenbaum, lawyer and publisher of a security industry "legal email newsletter" shared an email with IPVM from Jeff Zwirn, alarm industry veteran (and debate enthusiast) in which he challenges any advocate of Work from Home Monitoring to a debate for a $5,000 charity of that company's choosing:

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*****'* *****:

************ *********** **** ** *** ******** points **** ***** ** *******, ********* UL827 ********** ******* ******** ** **** operators ***, ***** ** ********* ******** of ******, *** ******** **** *** central ******* ******** ***** ******** ***** does *** ***** *** *** *** central ******* *********.

***** *** **** ** ****** *** for ******* ******* ********* *** ****** initially ** *****, ** **** ****** for ***** *********** *** ********* **** estate ***** *** *** ******* *******. I ***** ** **** **** ******** of **** ******* ** ******** ***** an ***** *** *** ******* ******** because ** ***, *** ****** ** just **** *** *** ******** *********, or *** ***** *** *******, ** the ******* **** **** *******.

**** ***** ****:

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Undisclosed #1
Aug 09, 2023

**** ** *****'* ******** **** **** WFH ******* ******* *********?

** ***** ********* ** *********, ********* and ********* *** **** *** *****'* really ******* *** ********* ******* ** to *** ** ******** *** ** 'less *********' - ** **** ** risk ******* ******** ********** *********.

**********, **** ** * ********** *** phenomenon **: ***** *** * ***** there ** ** ***** * ********** argument **** *** ** **** *** why *** ***** ******** ***************.

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UM
Undisclosed Manufacturer #2
Aug 10, 2023

**** ** *****'* ******** **** **** WFH ******* ******* *********?

** * ******* *******, *** ******* a *** ** *******. *** *** install ****** **********, *** *** **** multiple ******** ********** ********, *** *** protect ********** ****, *** *** ********** control ****** ** ** ***. ** you **** ** ** * ** listed ******* *******, *** *** ****** with ** *** *** *** *** requirements, ********* ******* ****** *********** *** certification. *** **** ** *** ***'* want ** **** ** ****** **** UL ***, **'* ***** * **** good ****, ********** ** *** **** insurance ** ********* *** *** ******.

** *** **** ***** *********** ******* from ****, *** ******** ****'* ***** compliant **** ** ***, ******* *** difficult ** ******* **** ***** ****** dispatcher *** * *** **** * ginormous ******* *** * ****** *********, or **** ****'** ********** *********** ****** to ***** *********, ** **** **** have ********* ******* **************.

** ****, ** *** ********* ****** handling ******* * ** *** ********* operating **** (**.****.*).

***, ***** *** * **** **** to ** **** *** *********** ********** UL *** ************ ****** **** ********. People ******'* ****** ******** ****** ********* rooms, ** ******* *********** **** *** letting **** ****** ******* ***** *** the ***** ***** ******- *** *********** was ** ****** ******** ******* ********.

*** ***?

** *****'* ****** **** ** *** compliant? *** ******* ********* ** *** issued *** * ***********? *** * building ***** ****, ** *** ********* company ***** ** *** **** ** an ****** *** ** *** ***, whether ** *** *** ********** *** an ****** ******?

** * ******* ******* ***** ** pay ***** ** ******* *** ***** and ************ ** *** ***** ***********, and **** **** ********* *** *********, then ****'* *** *****. *** * think **** * *** ** ******* stations **** ***** **** ** *** cheaper *** ****** ** ******** ***, and * *** * *** ** dispatchers ***'* **** *** ***, ** they're ****** ** **** **** ** skate.

*** ***** ** ********** **** ** during ***** (**** ********** ***********), *** even ** ********* * ***'* **** what * ***** **** **** *********. But **'** *** ** ******** ** more. ****** *** ** ******** ******* 827 *** ***** ******* ************, ** let ******* ******** *** ** ******* the ***** ** ***** ***********.

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U
Undisclosed #1
Aug 10, 2023

*** ******** ****'* ***** ********* **** UL ***, ******* *** ********* ** confirm **** ***** ****** ********** *** a *** **** * ********* ******* and * ****** *********, ** **** they're ********** *********** ****** ** ***** computers, ** **** **** **** ********* telecom **************.

***** *** ********* ****** **** *** CS's ****** **** (*** ********** ** have, ** ** ** *** *********).

*** ***** ***** *** ******* ************ are ****** ********* *** **'* - it **** ***'* ** *** *** agents ********* ** *** **.

*.*. ***** ***** ** *** **** from *** ****** **** *** *** power **** ***. **** - ******* alarm ** ***** * ** * or *, ***.

*'** ***** **** *** *** **** likely ***** **** - *** **** 'probably' ****-** ***** ** ***** **** is *** **** ******* ** *** outside ** *** ******** ************ ** the ** ** ****...

i.e. *** ***** ** ******* ** ** ******* ** ****'* **** ***** ***** ** *** ** ****** *****.

***** ****** ** *** **** ******** below ** *** ** ****** ****:

"** *** ** *** ******** ********* committee ***** ******* *** *****, * voted ** *** *** ******** ******* from *** ** *** **** - for *** ********* *******...."

*** ***** **** *** * ******* reasons - ** ***** *** * heard ****:

*. ********* ****'* **** ** *** something **** ***** *** **** **** signed ** *** ***** ** ****'* exist ****** *****.

*. *** ******** ***** **** ********* don't **** ***** *** ****** ***** a ***** ***** *****.

*******: *** **'* ***** ******************** **** **** **** ***** *** agents? ** ***** ** ** **

*. ** ** ***** ****** *** certified ***** ******** ** ****** *** combination ** * *** * ***** CS's *** ***** *********

*. ***** ************ *** ********** ** a **, ***** *** ****** ***'* be ** **********.

* ***** **** #*.

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UM
Undisclosed Manufacturer #2
Aug 11, 2023

*.*. *** ***** ** ******* ** it ******* ** ****'* **** ***** until ** *** ** ****** *****.

** *** ********* ******* ****** ******** outside ** ** '********* ****' (** a ******** ***** **** ***** ** 827 ************). ** ****'* ******** *** to *****, *** ****'** ********* ******** rewriting ** *** ** *********** ****-***** realities **** ** *** ********** ** WFH.

* ***'* ********** *** ***** ** focusing ** ****** ***** **********. *** bigger ****** ** ** *** *) physical ************ ** *** ******-******** ******** and *) *********** ******** ****** ** subscriber ****. *** ***** ** ********* to ******* *** ******* *** *** second ** ********* ********** ** ****** what.

* ***** ** ************* **** * dispatcher ******** ** ******* ******* **********, but **** ** *** ***** ****** that ***, **'* ***** **** ********* to ******** ******** ****** ** *** computer ***** ********** **** ** ******, and *** *** ************ * *** think ** *** ********* **** ** circumvent.

****** **** *****, *** ** ** spooky ***** ********* ***** ** ***** the *********** ** ******** * **** in ***'* ****, ******** ***** ****** to ******** ******** ***** ***** ****** them ****** ** *** ********** ******** they ****** ** ** ***** ****. We ****** ** *** **** *** a ***** *** **** ********* ** as *********** ****** *** ******* ******* ****.

********* *** ************ ** ** *** aren't ****** ** ******** ** ***-***, but ******* ** *** ** ***** a ******* **** ** *** ******, and * ***** **** ******* ******** are ***** ** **** ** ****** and ** ** *** ***** ***. So **'** **** ** **** ***** handling ******* **** ***, ** * computer *** ** ***** **** ** roommates *** ******, ******* *** ********** or ********* **********. *** ***** **** is ****** ***** *** **** ** we ***** ***** ****** ** ** grownups *** ******* **** ******** ** during **** ***** ** ********.

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U
Undisclosed #1
Aug 11, 2023

****'* * ***** *********** - ******!

*** **** **** **** ****** ******* insinuating **** **'* *** ************ * fraud ** ********* - ***** ******* to ** *****'* **-** ****** ********.

*'* **** ******* **** *** *** about ************ - *** *** ********* are ********* ** **** ******** ******.

*** ***** ** ** ******** **************** **** ***** ** ********** ** contain, ****** * ***** ***** **** the **** ** ********** **** - outside ** ***** *** ********* ** alerts (*.*. ******** ****) - ***** be ****** ** ******* - **** with *** ******.

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UM
Undisclosed Manufacturer #2
Aug 11, 2023

*** **** **** **** ****** ******* insinuating **** **'* *** ************ * fraud ** ********* - ***** ******* to ** *****'* **-** ****** ********.

**** ***** ** *** ** *** smartest ****** *'** **** *** ** my ****.

*****, **** ***** ** **** *****.

**** ***** ********** **** ****-***-*** ******** when *********** ******** **'* **********, ***********'* **** *** ****** ** *** head ****** ****.

***** **** **** ***** *****, * listen **** *********, *** **** *** to ****** *** **** ** ******* him *** **** ****. **** **** I ******** **** *** (***** ******* occasionally), *** ****** *** ****** ***** thinking *****.

**'* * ***** ** ***** *** as * ***** **** ** ****** who ***'* **** ***. **'* * really ***** *** *** ** **** really ****** *** ** *************, *** also ** *****.

**** * ****** ***, * **** the ***** ******** *** * **** Honovich ******* ** * ******* *****.

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Robert Shih
Aug 11, 2023
Independent

** ***** **** ****'* *******. ******* the *****.

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UM
Undisclosed Manufacturer #2
Aug 11, 2023

****, *****'* **** *** **** ********, that's *** **** ****.

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RS
Robert Shih
Aug 11, 2023
Independent

* ******'* **** * ***** *********.

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Sean Patton
Aug 09, 2023

* ******** *****'* ***** **** *** original **** ***** ********* *** **** of *** ******.

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U
Undisclosed #1
Aug 09, 2023

****** *** ********* ****.

*** ******* ***** ******* ** ** that '****** ***'* **** ***** *** would *** ****' *** ** ******.

**** *** ** *** ****, *** that ** **** *** ********** **** they ***** *** **** **** ** thinks **** *******'* ****. ***** ** there *** ******** **** **** ** true? * ***** *****'* * **** chance **** **** ** **** ************ bias ******* ** ** **** * self-described ******.

*** ******** ********* ******** **** **** CS ****** ***, **** ** ***** signal ***** ** ****** - ** if **** *** *** ***** ** the **** ****** ***** ********* ** receive *** ***** - *** ****. if ** ***** ** ****** ** and **** *** ***** ** *** off, *** ***** *** ** ****** re-routed ** *** **** ** ***** WFH ****** **** *** *********.

** ***** ***** *** *** ************ built **** *** ** - ***** ignoring *** ********************* **** *** ****** *******.

** *** ** ****** **** ** in *** ******** ********, **** ** a ********/*********/******* ******* *** ****** *** make ** ** ** *** **? remote ****** ******* ********* *** ********* without **** -in *** **** *** **** **'* ********** **** **** **** *** ******** ******** **** ****** ** ******** ***** ** ***

*******, *** *** ***** **** **** the ** ** ***** ****....

******* **** ****** ** *** ***** in ***** ** * ******* ** the ** ** ******* ** ** 50 ****** ****** ***** *** ******** agent (**** ** ********* ****** ** remote ******) ***** ** *** ***** just ** **** ** *** **-***** agent *** - ************************.

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JH
John Honovich
Aug 09, 2023
IPVM

****, *** *** ****** *** **** Hawaii? ****** *** * ******...

**** *****: ****, ** *** *** Appeared ** *** *********, ********* *** Professional ************** ***** *****, **** ********** Belief ****** ***** *********** *** **** You ** *** ****

* ***'* **** ****** ** *** low ***** ******* *** * ** think ***** ** ****** **** ********.

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RS
Robert Shih
Aug 09, 2023
Independent

*********... **** ****! *** ** ** still **** ** ******** ******* ***** a ***** ********?

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UM
Undisclosed Manufacturer #2
Aug 10, 2023

******* *************, *****'* ****** **** ********** alarm ******** ****** *************.

*** ***** ******** *********** ***** * John ********. *** ***** *** ************ are *** **** ** *** **.

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Ethan Ace
Aug 10, 2023

*** ****** ****** ***** ** **** is: *** ******* ******* ********* **** been ****** *** *** **** *** years, ** ***** — **** ****** have *** **** ** ****** **'* actually ******? ** ***, **'* *** an *****.

** *****'* **** ** *********** ***** ** *********. **'* *** ***********, **'* ******** happening. **** ** **** ******* *********, another ****** ***** ** *** ***** on *** **** ** "*********."

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JH
John Honovich
Aug 10, 2023
IPVM

** ***** ** *********

*** **** *** ***** ****? ** I ********** **** *********, *****'* ** inherent ******** ** ******** ***** *** studying ***** **** ** ** **** at *** ******* ***** ****, ***** wants ** ******* ***** ****, ***/**?

**** *******, *** **** **** **** at ******* **** *******? **** **** of ******* **** *** ******* ****** working ** ****? * ********* ***'* know.

RS
Robert Shih
Aug 10, 2023
Independent

**** **** ****** ****** *** "*****" scenario *** *** ** ****** ** and **** *** ** ** *** possibly ****** ** ** ** ** deems ******** *** *** ******** **********. Basically, *** **** ** **** **** excercises.

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Ethan Ace
Aug 10, 2023

*** **** *** ***** ****?

* ***** *** ******* *** ********* authorities ***** *** ******* ******** ** provide *** **** **** **** ** study **, ***** ****** ** *** practice ***** ********** ** ****** **********. Otherwise, * ***'* ****.

**** ***** ** **** ****** ******* at ****. *'* *** **** ***** ones ************. * **** * ****** who ***** ** ******** ******* *** a ***** ****. * **** ******* friend *** ***** *** * ** airline **** *** ****** *** ** their ******* ******* **** ****.

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UI
Undisclosed Integrator #5
Aug 23, 2023

***** *** ******** *** *** ********** life *** ********. ***** *** **** many **** ******* ******* **** ****. The **** ***, ***** ****** *******, Bell & ****** *** ******* ********** and **** ********. ********** **** ****** and ******* *** *********** ************ ** a ********** ********* **** **** !

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UI
Undisclosed Integrator #3
Aug 10, 2023

**’* ** ************* **** **** **** from **** ********* *** **** ******** non ******** *******. ******* *******, *** alarm ******* *** ** ********.

** *** ** **** ********* ******** PD ** **** ********. * ** Ok **** **** ******** *** ******* calls. ****** ******* ***** *******’* **** be ***** ** *** *** ****** be ********* *** **** ********* ***** want * **** ** *****. *’* also ** **** ******* ***** ***** to **** ********* *** *** ******** customer ******* ******, **/*** **** *** signal ******.

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JH
John Honovich
Aug 10, 2023
IPVM

** ************* **** **** **** **** home ********* *** **** ******** *** critical *******

*********** ** *** ** *** ***, ** **** *** ***** ** restrict **** ** **** ***-******** *******.

UI
Undisclosed Integrator #4
Aug 11, 2023

*** ********* **** ***** ********** ********* "don't ****" ** *****'* ********* ******* out ***** *** ******** ** ********* reliable **/* ********** ******** **, ***** frankly, ** ****** ** ********* ** security ************* *********. ******* ** ** not, ***** *** ********** ********* *** made ** ********, **** ** **** **** **** they ** **** *********. **** ******* competent ****-****** ********** ** **** ****** and ********** *** ***** ********** *** appreciate *** ********* **** ** *******.

** * **** **** **** ** us, *** *** ******** ********, *** also ********* ** *** *** ******* Stations.

***** ** ** **** ***** **** the *********** * **-****** "******", *** quite * *** ****** ****, *** making. ** ** ******* ********** **** both ********** *** *********** **-****** ******* Stations *** ********* ** **** *** applicable:

*. *** ** *** ***** ****** handling ********* ****** **** ****** *** Central ********. (***, ** **** ******** Central ******** ******* *** ***'* **** all ** **** **** ** *** basket)

*. *** ** *** "*********" *** "customer ****" ****** **** ** ******* physically ******* ****** *** ******* *******. No ******** **** ***** *** **** transferred ** ******** ****** ******** ************.

*. *** ********** ******** *** *** ability ** ***** ***** ******* **** systems ******* ******** ** * ******** queue, ** ** ******* **** ** certain ********* **** *** ********** ******* within * ******* *******. ***** ****** necessary ***** *** **** ****** *****, within *** ******* ****** ******* *******, where "*******" ***** ****** ******* *** customers *** *******. *** ******** ******* installed ** ******* **** ******, *****, etc. *** ********* ** * ******* group ** ********** *************, ******* ********** on **** *** ************ *** *** the ***** *******. **** *** ******* for **** ***** - **** ****** remote ********** *** * *****.

*. *** ****** ******** ************ *** connected ** *** ******* ******* ******* via * ***. ***********, ***** *** additional ******** ******* *********** **** *** company-owned *** ******* ************ ***** ********* use. **** ** ******** ****** *** workstation ** *** *** ******** ***.

*. *** ****** ******** ************ **** no **** *** *****, **** *****, Thunderbolt *****, ***. ** ** ** prevent **** ***** ********** *** ****** locally ** * ***** *****, ******** hard *****, ***. *** *********** **** drive ** ********* ** **** - if ** **** ** ** ****** it ***** ** ********** ********* ** extract **** **** **. *** ****** any ******** **** ** *** *********** also ***** * ****** ******* ** a **** ******* ******** ****. ** stolen ** **** ********* *** *** address ** *** ******* *** ******* the *** ******* *** *** ****.

*. *** ************ *** ******* *** patched *** ******** ** * ********** basis. *** ** ***** *** ***** a **-**** ** ****** ** ***** machine ********* ** *** ***, ******** security ******* ** ** *******, ********* system ******* ** ** ******* *** installed, ***.

*. *** ****** ******** ************ *** "locked ****" ** **. ** **-******** applications *** ** ********* ** ****. The ********* **** ** ****** ** e-mail ***** **** ***** ******* *****. Any *********** ** ******** *** ******* or **** ** *******. ** ***** to *** **** ******** ********* **** are *******.

*. *** ****** ******** ************ *** supplied **** * ******** ***, ******** their ******** ******, *********** *** ******** to ******* *** ** ***** ** minutes. *** ****** **** ** ***** handled ** *** ******** **** *** be *********** ** * ***** ***** outage. ** *** ***** ***'* ******** when *** ******** ******** *** *** low ***** ******* **** *** "**** the ***** ***" ** ******* ******** or ** ***** **********.

*. *** ***** ****** ******* ***** in * ***** *** ******** ********. If *** ******** ** **** ** in *** ********, ****** * ********, etc. **** *** ********* *** ******** an ***** ******. ******* ******** ********** the ***** **** **** *** ******* alarm **. ** * ****** ***** in *** ***** *** *** **** the ********** ******** **** ****** *** supervisors *** ********, *** **** **** step ** ** ****** **.

**. ** ** ****** ***** ***** is "*********" ** ** ******** (** their ****** *****, *********** *****, *** failures, **** **** ****** ** ****** the *****, ***.) ** **** **** back **** *** **** ***** *** another ******** ** ******. ** ** virtually ********** ** "*******" ** ****** an ***** ****** *** **** ** remain **-*******, ****** *** ** *** operators **** ** ******* ************ ***** to ** **.

*** ****** ** ***** **** ********* spent ** ****** ****** ********* ******* of ***** ** **********. **** **. Zwirn ***** **** *** **** ******* they *** *********** ** ***'* **** the **************** ** ********** *********?

** ********** ****'* ***** **** ********* by ******** ********* *** ************* ***** outside ************ **** *** (******** ****) even ***** ** ******?*** ********** *************** ** *** **** ** ********** who *********** ** *** ***:*** ************ *** ***** **** ***** ****** to **** *************** ******** ** ** were *** ****** ********* *** ****** as * ******* ** *** ******** as * *****?

******* ******** ****** ******** ** ***** events *** ****. *** ***** ******? Of ****** - ****** ** *******. People *** ******. **** ** ********* were ******** ** ****** ** * Central ******* ***** *** ***** ***** still ** ******** **** ******.

* *** **** ** ****** - make **. ***** ***** ***** *** major ***** ****** *********** ****** ** a ****** ** ****** *********. ** very ******* ******* *** ******** *****, signal ******** *****, **** **** *****, etc. *** ** **** ********* ** much ******** ********* **** *** ******* by ******, ******, *****, ***/****, ***.

** **** ** **. ************* *****, ** ******* ***** *** hundreds ** ****** **** ** ***** or **** ** ****-***** ********** **** would *** *** ** *****. ** is ****** ******* ***** * ******* that *****'* ***** ** * ******** run, ******** ********** ********** ****** **** is ***** ******* ** ******, ********* professionals.

******: **** ******* *** **** ***** to *** *** **********:*** **** *** ***** ********** ** Home

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Undisclosed #1
Aug 11, 2023

**** ** ***********-******* ****... ** * ***** **** you *** ************ * *****.

** ********* ** ** ***** ** virtually **** - *** *****'* ****** (and *** '****** **' *********) ******* me ******* *** ****** ********* **** clearly ********* - *** *** '***** me, *'* ** ******' ************* ***** has ****** *** *** ****** (*** intended) ** ** ****.

***** ** *** * ****** **** on *** ****** ** ***** ****.

***** *** *** *** ***** ** point *********** ** *** **'* ** what **** **.

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UM
Undisclosed Manufacturer #2
Aug 11, 2023

** ***** * ******* ***** ***** actually************** *** ***** ******** **** **** taken, ** ***?

******* * **** **** * *** of ************ ******* ******** *** ***'* order ***** ******* ******* ***** *** a ******** **** ** ****** *** three *********** *******, *** * **** work **** * *** ** ******* stations *** * ******'* ***** ** chaperone * ****** ****** ***** ****.

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UI
Undisclosed Integrator #4
Aug 11, 2023

* ** *** ***** ** ****** certifying **** *** ******** *** ***********. I *** **** ***** ** **** I **** ** ** **** *** my *** ******** *** *** ********* I **** ****** ***** *********** ******* stations ***.

**** ** ** *** ** **** you "**** ****" ******* ********?

UM
Undisclosed Manufacturer #2
Aug 11, 2023

**** ****** *** *** ****** **** me **** ******* *** ******** ** a ******* *******. * *** ** keep **** ********* **** *** ******* station ******* ***** **** ** ** area, **** ** **** **** *** dispatchers, ***** ** *** * ** being *****.

* **** **** * ****** ** customers *** ******* ***** *** *******. Some *** **** **** ** **. Some *** **** **.

* *** **** ** ********** *** many ***** ****** * ***** ** sales, *** **** ******* ********* ******* stations ** * ***** *** ** a ***.

UI
Undisclosed Integrator #4
Aug 11, 2023

**********.

*** * *** *** **************** / *********** **** ******* *** "cut-in" ********* ******* *** ********** ***** actually ***** ** * ******* ******* operator - **** ***** **** ******* in *** **** **********. *** **** department ****** *** ********** ********, ****** the ***** ***** ******* ** ***** programming *******, ******* *** ******** **** lists, ******** ***** **** *****, ***. They *** ********* ****** ** ** area ******* ******** **** *** ********** operations.

*** **** "**** *****" ***** ********** operators ******* *** *** ***** **** enter **** ******** ***********, ***** ***** reports, **** ***** *******, ***.

* ** *** ***** ** *** large ** ********** ***** ** ********* actually ***** ** ******** *** ******* - ** ** *** ******* ** the ********** ******** *** *** ***** system ** ******** *******.

*** ********** ****** ***** ** ** operators - **** **** **** *** Data ***** **** *** ****** ** installed *** **** **** ***** ***** system ** ****, **** *******, ***. and *** ********** ******** ******** *** signals ********. *** ******** ** ***** Central ******* ********* ***** * ******* of **** ********** ** ***** ********* as ****. **** *** *** ***** own ***** ********, ******* ****-*****, ***. all ******* ********** *** ********** *******.

** ****** *** ********** ******* **** is *** **-********* *** ****** *** way **** ****. ***** ******.

** *** ** * *********** ** goes, * **** **** *** ****. However, *** ******** ** **** *'** dealt **** *** **** **** *** and *** * **** ********* **** of ***** *******'* **** ********** *******.

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UI
Undisclosed Integrator #5
Aug 23, 2023

***** *** ***** ************, *** ***’* you ****** **** ***** ?

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UI
Undisclosed Integrator #4
Aug 23, 2023

******** * ***'* ******* * ****** that ***** ***** ***** ** ********. Mr. ***** ****** *** ******* ** his *****. * ****** *** ** company ***** ** *** **** *****. We *** ********* ***° *** ** synch.

*** **** ******* *** *** **** sifted ******* **** ***** **** ** decide ***** ** ** ** ****** representing *** **** ***** *********** ** alarm ****** **********. **** **** **** to ****** ** **** **** *** WFH ******** ** ** ***** ** a **** ** **. ***** ***** you ** ******* ** **.

* ***'* ***** ** ******* *** company *** * ****** ********* ********* customers **** *** ****** ***** ***** system *** ******** *** ** ******* by * *** ********. * ******** don't **** *** **** *** *** anyone ***. ** ** ********** *** only ****** *** **** *** * reason ** **** ***** ** ***** who ******* * ** ************ ****** for ********* **********, *********** **********, ***** who ******* **** **********, ***. **** customers *** **** ********* **** **** not ** ********* **** ******** ******* like *** *******, ** ***** ****, etc. **** ********* ***** ***** ******* as * ********* **** ** ******* to ** ***** **** ***** **** them.

* **** ** **** ** *** operator *** ********* ** ** ** only ***** ***** ***** ** **** was ******* **** **** ** ***. All * **** ** *** ********* me *** * *** **** ** look ** ** **** ****** ** see *** **** **** ***** **** was **** *** ** ********* ***** (my ********'* ***) *** **** ******* the ****** ********. * *** **** to ***** *** ***** *** ***** a ******** ** ********. * **** that * ***.

*** * **** ** ** ******* monitors ** ***** ****** *** *** alarm ******* ** **** ****** *******, business *******, ***. * *****'* *** a *** ********** *** *** ****** I **** ****** *** *** * bad ********** ******.

** **** * ***** *** *** same ***** ***** *** ******* **** of *** ********... :-)

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U
Undisclosed #1
Aug 24, 2023

* ***'* ***** ** ******* *** company *** * ****** ********* ********* customers **** *** ****** ***** ***** system *** ******** *** ** ******* by * *** ********. * ******** don't **** *** **** *** *** anyone ***.

**** ** ******* *** * ****** back ** *****'* *****/*********** **** ** operators *** ******* ** ***** *** using *** ****** *** *** ******* their ********* **** **** **** ***** that.

*******************... *** ******* ** ** * self-proclaimed (*** ******** ****-****) ****** ** alarms, ** **** ********** ******* *** prism ** **** ****** ***** ****.

***, ***** ** *** *** ***** right **** ** **** **** *******, Zwirn ** ********** ********* **** **** he **** ** ****** *****.

** ** ****** ** ******* **** he - *** ******** ***** ****** - ***** **** ** *****.

******** ******* *** ** ** ********** convinced **** **** *** ****** ***** is * ********** ***** ** ****, imo.

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Mark Schweitzer
Aug 22, 2023

** * ***** **** **** ** Zwirn's ********* *** ******** **** ******.

*. * ********** ***** **** ** a ******* ** ***** *** ****** to ******* *** ******** **** ****** be ********* ** *** ******* ** a *** **** ** **** *** the ********* ** ********. ** **** point ** ******* * ******** **** by ** ******** *****. * ***'* see ***** **** ** **** **** often *****. * **** *** ** as ********* *** ***********, ****** * standard/certification, **** **** *** ****-******** ** ensure *** ** ** ***** *** in ** *********** ***.

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Undisclosed Integrator #5
Aug 24, 2023

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Undisclosed Integrator #4
Aug 24, 2023

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Robert Shih
Aug 24, 2023
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Aug 25, 2023

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Undisclosed Integrator #5
Aug 25, 2023

******* * ********** ****** **** ** not *********** *** ***** ********** *********** ! **** *** *** ****** * and ***** ********.

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