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Peter Goldring: "Hono-The-Clown Is Well Known Among The People Who Lead The Industry. I'm Just The One Who Plans To Make IPVM Go Away."

Have faith, Kyle. Hono-the-clown is well known among the people who lead the industry. I'm just the one who plans to make this site go away. Hono-the-clown, why haven't you answered my message with the audit details?

NOTICE: This comment was moved from an existing discussion: Peter Goldring: "As An Expert Witness And Industry Analyst, I Am Often Asked About IPVM And Enjoy Every Chance I Get To Debunk Their Drivel."

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As I mentioned on LinkedIn, I've happily agreed to the audit you are paying for. I've just emailed you back asking our Head of Operations to manage:

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Why do you think you are going to do to make IPVM go away? Name-calling plus an audit that will confirm what we say? This is the plan?

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This is the plan?

If Goldring had a sense of humor, he’d ask for proof of 15,000 members

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Everyone in the security industry knows Peter Goldring is a complete fraud !!!

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For those not on LinkedIn here's a screenshot as at the time of this comment.

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Has this man lost sales commission on some Hikua cameras or something?

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Let the Fraudit begin!

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Well now, this is an interesting diversion from my otherwise mundane day-to-day. This has, as they say, “Captured my interest”

Im too much of a cheap skate to gamble. But Im betting that while PG is busy aimlessly moving around his rooks and pawns, JH is already at check-mate.

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You're giving PG too much credit if you think this was ever a chess match.

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I feel like I've read a novel with a cliff hanger ending. What happens next???

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I know what you mean, I keep checking IPVM expecting to see the site down, but it's still here.

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The last email from Goldring to us was last Tuesday:

I will update you tomorrow end of business and provide a list of documents and contacts for verification as soon as it's complete.

I just followed up with Peter asking for an update.

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How long does it typically take to set up an audit like this? And how long would an audit take? Is this a normal amount of time to wait to even start the audit? Because it's starting to feel a bit like "I didn't think John would say yes" and now stalling (From Goldring).

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It was Thanksgiving last week in the US so I am certainly willing to wait longer.

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I dont know much about the situation between John and Peter but all this popcorn is going to waste if the best we get is "Hono-the-clown"

I mean if you are going insult someone you have to do better than "Honovich to Hono-the-clown"

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Lol, you want to encourage people to come up with better insults of me? :)

Btw, I emailed Goldring yesterday morning, no response so far.

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Lol, you want to encourage people to come up with better insults of me? :)

Don't spend much time on it, we have a Facebook group for that with plenty of good ones already. I'll send you the top 10 list.

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Post it here, LOL.

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Who's up for a John Honovich Roast?

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Where the hell is the meme-lord!? We need a Waluigi Honovich meme!

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I got you fam

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See, what I had in my head sucked so much more! Praise be to the meme-lord!

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I think a Goldring roast would be much better.

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I thought that was going to be part of the NJ event...

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Every time I see that name I think of a Bond villian in a spoof movie like Austin Powers.

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That's too good to post Undisclosed!

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Took me a moment to believe it was a real meme! I swear, anything goes on the internet lol.

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Took me a moment to believe it was a real meme!

Is there such a thing as a “fake” meme?

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Fair point. Probably better to term it an IPVM made meme. I didn't think it was from a generator.

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UPDATE:

Goldring said he took a few days off. Hopefully, he will actually start the audit. In the midst he asked for a zoom call to:

Just want to hear you verbalize your claims. I have met several pathological liars in my time. Curious if I can reliably detect speech patterns. Nothing to worry about if you're telling the truth.

What are you worried about? No fake posts?

My response:

Let's start the audit. I have not objected to the screen share, the bank account review, etc., etc. Speech patterns are irrelevant since we are doing an audit that you are paying for.

Who is the auditor? I am looking forward to get started and proving what we have said all along. Please connect the auditor and Don will commence the process with them ASAP.

His final response tonight:

Looking forward to setting the record straight. Might be a good idea to get ahead of the 15,000 lie now, but that's for you to decide.

I will get things moving tomorrow.

I am still a bit baffled that a Certified Fraud Examiner like Peter Goldring has decided before the audit occurs that we are lying. I will update when I hear back from Goldring next.

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Might be a good idea to get ahead of the 15,000 lie now…

Dear IPVM Subscribers:

It is with a heavy heart that I must tell you that you do not exist.

Sorry for any embarrassment this may cause you.

J

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Love to be a fly on the wall in those zoom meetings. Reminds me of the days of you trying to have conversations with SR and BV.

Maybe you can live stream those zoom meetings and charge $10, donate the funds to your favorite cause. Mr. Goldring is insisting on transparency right? The Best IPVM Live Show Ever!

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Peter Goldring has to shit or get off the pot already !!!

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Just want to hear you verbalize your claims. I have met several pathological liars in my time. Curious if I can reliably detect speech patterns. Nothing to worry about if you're telling the truth.

What are you worried about? No fake posts?

Speech patterns? Really? Is he claiming yet another expert outside his stated lane? Who's the pathological liar here?

Tell ya what, when this audit is said and done and he realizes he just paid to have egg on his face, he can play Texas Hold'em against me and try to win back his money. I'm sure his "excellent" deductive reasoning and expertise in speech patterns will help him break even, right?

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Just want to hear you verbalize your claims. I have met several pathological liars in my time.

Yep, he looks (and talks) to the one in the mirror daily!

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I have the same thoughts on this as I did during the Lee Odess situation. A business or a person will never be successful if their purpose or one of their top goals is to put someone out of business or to attack an individual. Being vindictive should never be a top priority in your professional or personal life. These people or businesses never win out in the end.

I am talking from my own personal history, I have definitely mellowed in my old age plus I happened upon an excellent mentor years ago. I was actually on a manufacturer's trip and met an integrator who was doing audio for nightclubs and bars but wanted to offer them security systems also. I helped mentor him into the security industry and he became my business mentor. When I was going off on a tangent, Sammy would say, does that help make Tony money? Does that help make anyone's life better? I still asked myself those questions today when issues arise. I jokingly say What Would Sammy Do?

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My speech patterns have changed significantly in the past 25 years and vary widely depending on who Im speaking to and what the topic of the conversation is. This happens even though I dont lie, unless my kids are asking me for money. Thank God my looks havent changed.

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OK, so a change in attack path. Maybe Peter is realising that the 15K is a real number.

I wonder if Peter is also asking linked in to be audited to verify the 'supposed' 40K + followers is accurate? Along with the 34 employees

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Perhaps at the same time the members of his IPVM hate group should also be audited, as there are 5 members, I assume including Peter, this should not take too long.

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Peter, even though I am posting undisclosed I am not now, nor have I ever been John Hanovich.

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Correct because you are a clone of John Hanovich that he keeps locked in his basement to post undisclosed on his blog site.

Peter, even though I am posting undisclosed I am not now, nor have I ever been John Hanovich, a clone of John Hanovich, related to John Hanovich by marriage or blood, nor am I an AI program or a robot.

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This disclaimer would allow you to be John Honovich though.

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That is what I get for copying the person before me. You win I am John Honovich.

Time to go break the news to my family and employer.

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I am the original not John Honovich and I gave you a funny. I also graciously allow you rights to be not John Honovich in perpetuity, without royalty fees or paid consulting charges.

Further, as you seem a good guy I also grant you right to be not John Hanovich also.

Peter, as I am certain your narcicistic self is still watching this thread, I am not now & nor have I ever been John Honovich.

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It's been a long week, folks, please...

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This can't be correct because I am in fact John Honovich.....

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You must feel sorry for Peter, he has had a 20% drop in membership in his online hate club.

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Peter, if you are still watching this, despite posting undisclosed, I am (the original) not now, nor have I ever been, John Honovich.

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I am not John Honovich, but I did sleep at a Holiday Inn Express last night.

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Classic!

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You guys sort it out. As an innocent bystander, I remain "definitely not John Honovich"

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Looks like Peter Goldring and Lee Odess have just formed a new intercontinental tag team. I see a cage match in the near future....

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Case closed! :)

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This book has a lousy ending... first a cliffhanger, then the villain just gives up?!

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I hope you get 50 bucks for this one.

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When I read “Hono-The Clown” the only thing I can picture in my head is a Hobo Clown, but instead of the napsack-on-a-stick…it’s an Arecont Multisensor on a pole, slung over his shoulder…anyone else?

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Hono-The Clown

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To quote the Guinness commercial from years back, “BRILLIANT!”

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Wait, #16, if you are me why are you doing this to me / us?

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I was being quick and lazy. Here is a better one.

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If you know who this is your old like me.

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Hobo Kelly baby! Holla for a dolla.

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Winner!

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A quick thankyou to all who have contributed to this discussion, the wit is amazing & very enjoyable.

Perhaps, as Peter is apparently no longer on IPVM, perhaps we should all go over to his facebook account & thank him for the opportunity he has given us to all have a good laugh.

Peter, just in case you are still watching, even though I am posting undisclosed, I am not now, nor have I ever been John Honovich. Or John Hanovich either.

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In case you are tried of following this thread, I made a website to track the status of Goldring's efforts in making IPVM go away:

Has IPVM Gone Away?

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Peter Goldring has the stones to throw stones? Now that's hilarious!

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First I have seen this, take on John now that's just plain ignorant, so did the audit happen? Sounds like jealousy to me.

Ah IPVM has yet to go away .....dah.

what ever happened to "Case Closed" Jeffery Zwirn?

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