Andrew Lanning: "No One With Any Industry Integrity Suffers This Clown Or His Circus Any Longer"

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John Honovich
Aug 26, 2022
IPVM

Integrator Andrew Lanning has posted the following about IPVM:

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The context is that IPVM published posts about publicly traded Latch and its SVP Lee Odess. Latch's stock has fallen 90% in the past year, more than 50% of its employees have been terminated, and an investigation into the company's financial irregularities is ongoing.

In particular, in May, Odess was promoted to run sales and marketing. 3 months later, Odess is out of that.

See IPVM coverage:

Latch Lays Off 130, Promotes Lee Odess

Latch's Lee Odess No Longer Runs Sales And Marketing

The allegation about discrediting authority is odd. Odess is an executive at a company that has severe problems. It is what it is. What do you say when a company's stock price is down 90% and more than half of the employees were laid off?

If you want to give Latch and Lee Odess a medal or trophy for this you are certainly welcome to. I am confident that most will understand that this deserves scrutiny.

I do thank Lanning for admitting our research's "occasional veracity". There's a reason why so many organizations have so quickly chosen to pay a premium for it, see IPVM Celebrates $200,000+ Research Service Contracted ARR In 1st Month and $4,000+ Average Annual Payment For IPVM Research Service. We offer the deepest and highest quality research in this industry.

Finally, I am proud of our critical reporting on companies and executives. We do not need this to sell research, indeed it certainly makes it harder as we offend powerful people, like Lanning and Odess.

But IPVM has always existed and will always exist to expose powerful entities and people. I can't sympathize with those wealthy executives' complaints but I can understand why they would hope everyone would just kiss up to them.

Update

Lanning has responded:

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I categorically deny this and the only reason I did not address it is that it is obviously illogical. However, since this is evidently the crux of his argument, I'll explain.

Lanning alleges:

Once they're hooked by IPVM research (which has occasional veracity), they're subjected to the non-technical editorial fantasy content that JH creates, unconsciously conferring it with equal gravitas to IPVM's technical research.

One, the opposite is how it works in practice. We sell research separately and for a much higher price than non-research (i.e., Info+). Info+ costs $199 a year while Research costs $480 to $10,000 per year depending on organization size. We can't and don't "hook" people with Research since we charge far more for it.

No one has ever made this allegation before because it's not sound. Typically, the allegation is that our critical reporting helps lead people to our research, but Lanning is making the opposite case. As I responded in the opening post, critical reporting hurts our ability to sell Research since executives like Lanning are repelled by being held accountable but it's core to us exposing unethical and phony companies and executives.

Lanning and Odess are entitled to their opinions but among those who respect us are the world's leading media organizations and government entities. For example, see the hundreds of citations we have received in the last few years. The video below shows just a sample of these from last year:

I get it - industry executives don't like to be held accountable. They want to talk about how wonderful they are and when their companies are in crisis, like Lee Odess's is currently, it is "harassment" and "cyberbullying" and "personal attacks" to fairly report on it.

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Matt Ion
Aug 27, 2022

So if I follow this logic... failure to deny wild accusations means tacit agreement with them. I can't wait to see how categorically denying them also equates with tacit agreement (protesteth too much, maybe?)

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Undisclosed Manufacturer #1
Aug 29, 2022

Years of retail management taught me that nobody understands exactly what a "bait and switch" is, but people still love throwing the term around because it sounds scary.

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Undisclosed Integrator #2
Aug 29, 2022

So... If somebody calls something out as a bait and switch, but the details they proceed to give don't fit the bill of a bait and switch... Does that mean they committed a bait and switch? 🤔

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UM
Undisclosed Manufacturer #1
Aug 29, 2022

Only if it never existed in the first place! That's how the bait and switch scam works- you offer a deal that's too good to be true, and then, when the customer asks for the deal, you tell them they just missed it, but you can offer them a substantially worse deal instead. Customer doesn't want to have come all that way with nothing to show for it, so they take the worse deal.

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Undisclosed #3
Aug 29, 2022

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Undisclosed End User #4
Aug 30, 2022

Does this mean everyone still on IPVM lacks industry integrity? Asking for a friend....

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JH
John Honovich
Aug 30, 2022
IPVM

Also, what is "industry integrity" and is that different than regular integrity?

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Undisclosed #3
Aug 30, 2022

rumor has it that SIA will be introducing the new Industry Integrity Award in 2023.

Lee Odess is the current frontrunner.

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UI
Undisclosed Integrator #5
Sep 19, 2022

I beg to disagree. While JH can focus like a bulldog on certain people and companies, Verkada, Dahua, HikVision, and Turing for example, this is what happens when your communication vehicle becomes the "Tattler" of our industry. I feel we get to see sides of our industry unavailable in the mainstream, "paid" journals, where buying an ad gets you a nice write extolling your great products and exciting strategy.

JH's passion sometimes weakens his position, but the facts hold up. I always look forward to IPVM and what they expose. It is akin to listening to Fox News, then CNN, and finally going to the BBC to find a balanced truth. We always need to read and learn, and make our own judgments. Well worth the $199 a year.

Keep going John!

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UM
Undisclosed Manufacturer #6
Sep 27, 2022

Balance FTW!

UI
Undisclosed Integrator #7
Sep 27, 2022

Andrew, I have noticed that rants similar to the one provided by you, are relatively rare on IPVM. Not because it’s’ readers are ignorant, but because the thousands of IPVM paid service subscribers have enough knowledge, experience, and industry wisdom to sort out the wheat from the chaff. By the very nature of public forum commentary, it will not always be 100% correct. I have personally found the info, reviews, research, and analysis provided by IPVM staff writers as well as John to be accurate. They are typically supported by information and data, not conjecture. Of course opinions and theory expressed are exactly that. So they must be considered objectively and taken as such.

Unlike most publications, IPVM provides Forums allowing feedback (regardless of how harsh), on every article. Many are subject to lively discussion. It can be witnessed that all have an open free speech environment. This can stimulate strong opposition statements. Not surprisingly when opposition opinions have no supporting data, they tend to respond with personal attacks on the source of the differing opinion. It is definitely a weak tactic, but it can unfortunately be sometimes effective.

In the US, we have seen this tactic deployed through all forms of industry and public media. It has become popular to direct one sided, inaccurate, dishonest statements or personal attacks on individuals to create emotional impact, and affect opinions.

Although many would simply dismiss such unsubstantiated or unsupported attacks, others may still be influenced. Printed national media sources do not typically provide the ability to respond or challenge the information.

We are fortunate that with IPVM, as a subscription based media source, is able to provide an open forum for discussions. There is a lot of cumulative experience in its’ subscriber base. This stimulates and allows an informative and healthy exchange. Most responses provide opinions based on personal experience, industry data, and collective wisdom gained over years in the industry. Some are however not based on anything but a personal motive, bias, or opinion.

Occasionally when the respondent has no data, information, or experienced knowledge to contribute, they resort to angry personal attacks on an individuals character, or an emotionally motivated point of view. These have in common that they are almost always provided without any substance other than their own anger and rage. Sometimes, disclosure of information, true or false, can lead to consequences, some of which may be financial in nature. This is why objective opinions based on accurate and honest data is important, and opinions without supporting data must be suspect and should not be acted on until confirmed. As an integrator we choose products based on tested and verifiable results over time. We have discovered that everything requires verification, sometimes multiple times.

If your point is worth making, instead of personally focused attacks on individuals, present your ideas and support them with verifiable facts, data, information, independent investigation, personal experience, or other compelling reasons.

Trust forum participants to determine the truth. After following this publication for a number of years, if you present verifiable information, I feel confident it will be heard and thoughtfully considered by its’ paying subscribers, and its’ truth will be discerned.

The good news for you is, that you have the right and privilege of cancelling your subscription. This will deny IPVM your subscription fee, and deny us the benefit of your input.

Andrew, I suspect that you may have motives other than revelation of a verifiable truth. but whatever your reasons, please believe I have your best interests at heart when I tell you that life is TOO short to be SO angry ..

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