Hanwha Wisenet P 4K Bullet Tested

By Ethan Ace, Published Nov 21, 2016, 01:18pm EST

Hanwha Techwin (formerly Samsung) continues their push into H.265 cameras, now with the high-end P series, including 4K resolution and smart codec.

We tested their high end bullet model, the PNO-9080R against Axis, Dahua and Hikvision 4K bullet and dome cameras to see how it compared in night and day scenes:

We tested IR performance, bitrate comparisons, configuration issues, and more.

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** *** *****, *** PNO-9080R ******** ****** ********** in ***** ******* **** competitive ** ****** ****** day *** *****, ***** with ***** ** *****, competitive ********, *** ***** codec *******, ** * price ******* ** ** lower **** *********** ******.

*** ********* ** *.*** may ******* ****** *******. However, ***** ******* *** not *** ********* ** most *****, ****** **** an ********* **** ** end-to-end ****** *******.

*******, *** ***** ******* for * ** ******* option, ********** ***** *** light ** * *** concern, *** ******* * is * ***** ******.

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*** ***-***** *** ** estimated ****** ***** ** ~$1,000 ***, ******* ** price ** ***** ** IR *******, **** ** the********* **-********-**********'* ***-*********-*.******* ***** *** ***** 4K ** ******* ** the **** ****** ********** Tool:

Physical ********

*** ***-***** ** ******* in ************ ** **** full **** ****** *******. We ****** *** ************ and ******** ******** ** this *****:

** *****

** *** *****, *** PNO-9080R ******** *** *** (~130') ** ***** ****, reaching ***** ***'. **** can ** **** ** the ******* ******* ******* illuminated ** ** ********** ~***', the ***** *********** ****** (seen ** *** ***** of *** ***** *****). 

**** **** ********** ** clip ***** *** ******* approaching **** ~***' ** the ******:

Test ***

** ****** ** ** outdoor ******* ***/***** *** (shown ***** *** *********) and ***** **** ******** lights ***. ***** **** light ****** ****** **** ~6.5lx **** ****** ** near *** ******* ** below *.**** **** ****** off ** *** *****. 

Low ***** ***********

** **** *****, **** PPF **** (~***), *** Wisenet * *** ********* 781 ******* *********, **** facial ******* ** *** subject *** ***** ***** legibility ** **** */*. The ********* **** ******* slightly *******, ****** **** this ** *** *** to ******** *****, ** the ****** *** ********* prior ** *******. ** observed ***** ******** *** **** ** that ******, ** ****. *** non-IR **** *****-* ******** no ********* ** *** subject, **** *** ***** only ****** *******.

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*******, ** ** ***, the ******* ** ***** easily ******** ** *** Samsung ******, *** **** in *****/********* ** ***** cameras.

Day **** ***********

******* *** ****** ****** the ***, ******* ********* by *** **** ******* are ******* *** ** very **** ***, ****** the **** *****-* ** noticeably ****** **** ****** (despite ** ***** ~*,*** lux ** ** ******** day).

****** *******, ** ~** PPF, *** ******* ****** provides ******** ****** ******* of *** ******* *** chart **** ***** *******, with **** ******* ** his ****** ********, *******, and ********.

*** **** ** **** at ~***', **** *** second **** ** *** test ***** ******* ** the ******* ******, *** rough ****** *******, ***** only *** ***** **** is ******* ** ******, with ** ******* ** the *******.

Warning: *** ** *** ***

** **** *** * series **** *** ******* a **** *** ************** which ***** *********** ** a ******** ************. ** compression ******* ** ******** in *** *** *********, shown *****. **** ******* models ******** **-** ***** ** *********** levels. ******* **** ******, comparing *******/******* ******* ***** H.264 ******** ***** *** error ****** *** ******* cap ** ***** * specific ************ ** * specific *****, ********* *****.

Bandwidth **********

***** *** * **** not ******* *** ***** to *** ***********, ** adjusted ************ ** ******** the ******'* ******* *** in * ***** ***** until ** ******** ~** Q ********* ** *** measurements (****** ** ******* ***** Quality / *********** ******). ** **** *** scenes, **** *** * Mb/s, *** * **/* in **** ******.

*** ******* *'* *.*** stream ******** **** ********** set ** "******" **** similar ** ***** ***** codec ******* ** *** and ***** ***** ******, though ******** ****** ** high ****** ******. *.*** bitrates **** ******* *****. However, **** **** ** the **** ** *******, no ***** *** ********* this ******'* *.*** ******.

** ****** **** *** other ******* */* *******' H.265 *********** ********** ** our******* ***** *.*** ****.

New ******* *** *********

*** ******* * ****** ships **** ******'* ******* web *********, ***** **** notably ******** ***** ******* support, ******* ** *** web ********, ***** *** past ******* ******* ********* required ******* *** **** live ******* *** *************. Oddly, *** *** ********* varies ********* ** ***** browser ** ****, **** the *** ********* ***** in ******, *******, *** Safari, ***** ** ******** the ***** ***** *********.

**** **** **** *** interface ** **** **********, and ****** ** ****** phone ******** ** **** as *** (***** ********* only).

***** **** ***** *******, much ** *** *** UI ** **** *** in *** **** *****/**** structure ** *** *** version. **** **** **** the ******* **** ** shown, *** ****** *** Samsung.

Test **********

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  • ********* **-********-***: *.*.*
  • ********* **-*******: *.**

*********** *.*.*.***** *** **** for *********.

Comments (13)

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Scot MacTaggart

11/21/16 10:10pm

Thanks for including the H.265 and H.264 side-by-side in the bandwidth chart.

Lee Zanter

IPVMU Certified | 11/21/16 11:56pm

Funny I just Quoted 8 of these. Now I know I made good choice. Keep up the good work!

Michael Miller

In reply to Lee Zanter | 11/22/16 12:57pm

Which VMS do you plan to use? Will you be using H.265?

Lee Zanter

IPVMU Certified | In reply to Michael Miller | 11/22/16 01:51pm

2 Exacq servers. No h265.

Undisclosed #1

IPVMU Certified | 11/22/16 05:36am

However, note that at the time of testing, no major VMS supported this camera's H.265 stream.

If ONVIF had just started its work on h.265 a year or two earlier this might not be such an issue.

And H.265 has been just around the corner for the last 5 years, so it's not like they didn't know it was coming...

Undisclosed Manufacturer #2

In reply to Undisclosed #1 | 01/10/17 04:48pm

Two of the most major ones will very soon.

Undisclosed #1

IPVMU Certified | In reply to Undisclosed Manufacturer #2 | 01/10/17 06:31pm

How major and how soon?

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Ethan Ace

IPVM | In reply to Undisclosed #1 | 01/11/17 03:44am

When we were doing this test, we talked to the major VMS providers, and indeed, two of them said they planned H.265 support for the Wisenet P the first half of 2017. We also have word that another will be adding H.265 support in the same timeframe, so it wouldn't surprise me if we see it supported there. I will leave you in suspense as to who, though ISC West is less than 90 days away...

Undisclosed #1

IPVMU Certified | In reply to Ethan Ace | 01/11/17 05:33am

...we talked to the major VMS providers, and indeed, two of them said they planned H.265 support for the Wisenet P the first half of 2017

Well that's not too hard to figure out, must be NUUO and Herospeed, amiright?

;)

Jordi Ibero

Imago IP Solutions
11/22/16 10:31am

Hi Ethan,

the specs of Avigilon 4K Bullet in your DB are totally wrong.

IR: 30 and 15m(at -25ºC)

FPS: 30 at High Framerate mode (20fps at HDSM 2.0 mode)

Warranty: 3 yrs

Op Temp Range: -35ºC to 50ºC

Multicast: Yes

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John Scanlan

IPVM | IPVMU Certified | In reply to Jordi Ibero | 11/22/16 02:45pm

Jordi - thank you for reporting this. The specs have been updated.

Rico Blaser

04/07/17 01:22pm

Quick question: does one of you know if the 9080r cameras (P series) support multi-crop streaming? In the specs and marketing materials of the 1080p Wisenet III and Wisenet X series cameras, this is a feature that is specifically mentioned. In the materials for the 4K P-series cameras it only says up to 5 steams but multi-crop is not specifically mentioned. Thanks for your help on this!

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Ethan Ace

IPVM | In reply to Rico Blaser | 04/07/17 02:59pm

Yes it does support it. Here's the full 4K FOV (left) and a 720p DPTZ stream (right):

It supports Digital Autotracking, as well.

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