Large US University End-User Video Surveillance Interview

Author: Dan Gelinas, Published on Mar 18, 2019

Schools have become targets in modern days of active shooters and terrorist fears. The need for video and access security is high. Universities also present increased challenges—students live both on and off campus, people take night classes that require unique time-based access levels, cameras are required to see in a broader variety of conditions, for example. When that university system is very large—not one campus but 20—there are even more considerations.

IPVM interviews the Technology Administrator of a large US University that comprises numerous campuses across their state. The system incorporates thousands of cameras and manages permission rights for more than 100,0000 credential holders.

Our interview with a Technology Administrator at a large US University covers a wide range of important topics:

  • Why they do not use integrators for their video surveillance and what they do instead
  • Why they still have thousands of analog cameras and what they are doing about that
  • How many cases a year video surveillance has an impact on and what image quality challenges they have
  • What VMS, camera and access control manufacturers they have
  • What multi-imager cameras they are using and which 'failed miserably'
  • What type of facial recognition they are considering and why they rejected Anyvision
  • Why they have 'no intention' to use Dahua, Hikvision or Huawei and why they 'tore apart some camera models'

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****: **** **** * ******* *** ** *** *** **** like *** ***?

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****: *** **** ******* *** ******* ** *** ****?

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****: *** ** *** ******* ********* ********? *** ** *** cameras *** *********** *** ** *****?

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****: *** ** *** ******/******** ******** *********** ** **** ****?

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Manufacturers *** ****** *** ***** - **** / ***, ****, *******

****: **** ************ ********—******* *** ***—**** *** ****?

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****: ** *** **** * ********* ** ********* ******* *** your ******* *** ***** *******?

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****: **** **** **** ******* **** ******?

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****: ** *** ******* ****** ******* ** ****** ** ** cybersecurity ******** ***** **** *******?

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****: ** *** ** *****, ** *** *** * *** or ******* ****** ****** ******?

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****: **, **** **** **** ** ******* ***** ** ****** the ******* **** ***** ****? **** *** ***?

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****: ** *** ** **** ******* *** ********* *** ******** links **** ********* **** *** ****?

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****: **** *** **** ******** *** ****** ** ********* (*******, VMS, ********, ***.) ****** **** ****** *** ** ** **** made *** ****** *** **** *** ***** **** *** ********.

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****: *** ***** ** *** ******** *** ****** *** ******** technology?

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****: **** ** **** ******* *** ** **** *******? ** that **********? **** ** **** **** ** ** ****? *** it **** ** ****?

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****: *** **** ****** ** ********** *** ***** **** **** VMS/Server/Network/Power ************?

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****: *** *** ****** **** **** ****? *** *** ********** ever ******?

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****: ** *** ** *** **** ****** **********? ** *** your ******* **** ** ** ***** ***** ****?

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****: ** *** *** *** ***** ********** ** ***?

**, ** *** * **/* ******.

****: **** **** ******* ** ******* *** **** ******* ********** your ********** ******?

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Multi-Imager ****** *****

****: **** *** **** **** *****-****** *******?

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Analytics *** ****** *********** *****

****: ** *** *** ****** ***********, ***, ** ********* *** things **** ******** ******* ****/**********, *******/******* ******** *********? **** ** you *** ** *** ******* *** *** ** ***** ***** in ***** ************?

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****: **** ***** ** ****** *********** **** *** ** ******* out ********** *** *** **** *** ****** **** **** *****?

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****: ** ******* *** *********/********* **** * *******?

***** **** ****** ** **** ************** *** **, ** *** money ** ********* *****.

****: **** ** *** ******* *** *********** ****** ********* ********** the ******?

**** ** **** ****** ******* *** *** ****** ** ***** all ***** ***** ** ***, *** ********* ***** **** ** crime **** *** ***, "*** **’** **** ****. ** **** a ******." *** **’* ****** ** *** ****** ********* *** it’s ****** ** **********. ****’* *** *** * ****** ** to ** **** ******* ***** ****** **** **** ***** ** be ****.

****: **** *** **** ****** *** ******** **** *** ******/******** or ***** ****** ****** ***** ******* ** ****** ***** ** your ********?

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****: **** ********* ****** *** ******** ** ***** **? *** example, *** ****** ******** ************ ** **** ** ***** **** and **** ********** ************ ** *** ***** **** **** *** biggest ******?

****, *** *** *****, * ***** ** ** **** ******, we’d *** ******** **** ********. * ***** *** ******** ** headed ** *** ***** ********* **** **, ********** **** ****** processing. * ** ******** ** **** ***** ********** ******* ***********. Or *****, * ****** *** ** *** ***** ***: * don’t **** **** ************ **** **** *** ** **** ****-*** cameras************. ** ***’* **** * *** ******. *** ***** **** one ** * *******, *** ** ***********?

Comments (13)

Dave Arnould

03/18/19 03:47pm

***** ***** **. ****** from ****** ********* ** well **** ** * new *** ******** ***** for *** ****** ****** Department.

Undisclosed #1

03/18/19 04:53pm

********* *&* *****!

* ** * *** fan ** *** ** Dan *'* ****** ******** interviewing ******** *******. ****** keep ** *** **** work! ; )

**** *** **** ******* of ***** * ***** version ** **** **** thing?

**** ** * ******* look *** ****, *** with *** * ************ the ****** ***** ***********?

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Dan Gelinas

IPVM | In reply to Undisclosed #1 | 03/19/19 12:03am

***** ***, ***! *********** suggestion ***** ***** ** as *****. *******, ***** all ** ************ *** located ******** **** **, I'm *** **** ** would **** ** **** as ** ***** **** on *****. **'* ********** an **** ** ********, however.

John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Dan Gelinas | 03/19/19 12:37am

****, **** ** **** the ******** ** *** users *** ***** ***** interviews *********** ** ******* them ** ***** ***** run ******* ** ****. And ** *** *** going ** **** ***** faces *** ******* ***** voices...

Undisclosed #1

In reply to John Honovich | 03/19/19 02:36am

* ****'* ******* ** *** ********* *****.... **** ***** *****.

*** ******** ***** *** ********** ****** **** ***** **** ** funny... ; )

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Cary Menage

IPVMU Certified | 03/18/19 11:04pm

***** *** ********** ******** for **** ********* ****** cameras ***** ** ** get **-****** ***'*, **-****** cameras *** *** **/********* for ******** ** *** to *********** ** **** stream ** * ****** on **** ** ***. You ***** ********** *** redundancy ** *** **** for ***** ******* ** addition ** **** ** servers.

*** **** ******* ** labor *** *** ****** would ***** *********** *******. I **** ************ ****** this *********** ** *** bench

Undisclosed #2

In reply to Cary Menage | 03/19/19 02:34pm

*****'**, *** ****** *** ******* *** ******** ***, * ***** probably ****** ** **** *** **** *** * **** *********** with ***.

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Cary Menage

IPVMU Certified | In reply to Undisclosed #2 | 03/19/19 05:16pm

** *** **** *** encoders **** *** **** or **** **** ** Dvr's. ** ***, *** you ********* **** *** encoder ******? *********** * resorted ** ***** *** Dvr's ******* ** ********.

******

Undisclosed #2

In reply to Cary Menage | 03/19/19 06:05pm

**** **** ******, *****, and ******* ********...**** ***** are *** **** *** Dahuas.

**** *** **** **** to **** ******** ***** from *** **** ******* the ***? **** ** one ** ** ***** concerns **** *********** ******* topology *** ****. ***** an **** ****?

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Cary Menage

IPVMU Certified | In reply to Undisclosed #2 | 03/19/19 08:07pm

**, *** * ***** pull ***** **** *** VMS *******, *** *** storage ** **** *********, and ** ******, * just *** *** ***, web, ****** ** ***** interface ** **** **** the *** *******. * working ******** * **** in ** *** ** Shinobi *** **** *-*** (hikvision ***) *** ******** (Amazon) ***'*.

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Cary Menage

IPVMU Certified | In reply to Undisclosed #2 | 03/19/19 11:47pm

* ******, *** * did *********** ** ***** brand **** ***** ****** VMS, *** *** ***** play **** ****** ***** from *** ***, *** Holis ** ***** ***, and ******* *** *** very ****.

**** ****'* ****** *** license ******, ** ***** is **** ********. *** if *** **** ********** quality ** ***** **** of ********* *********, * would **** *** **** for ******** *** *********** their **** ****** **** a ** ********, ** I ***** *** ***** be *** *** * license *** ******, *** check **** **, **** are ****** **** **** support.

Undisclosed End User #3

03/19/19 05:37pm

*'* *** ***********.

** ****** ** ***'*, (probably * ** **) and ***** **** **** fine, **** *** **** expensive *** **** * larger *********.

* ***'* *********** ********* a *****, ******* ***** Axis ******** **** **** for **, **** *** not *** *** *** to *** ************** ** our **********.

Undisclosed #2

In reply to Undisclosed End User #3 | 03/19/19 06:05pm

**** **** **** *** ***/***/*** **** *** ********?

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