ONVIF Suspends Huawei

By John Honovich, Published on Sep 20, 2019

Huawei has been 'suspended', and effectively expelled, from ONVIF so long as US sanctions remain on the mega Chinese manufacturer.

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Inside this note, we examine what happened and what this means for the unprecedented step of being removed from the video surveillance industry's global interoperability standard.

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**** ******* *** ** government*********** ****** ** *** 2019, ******* **** ** the ****** ****.

***** ******** ** ******* any ******* ************* ** what **** ***** ** why ** *** ****.

Huawei ***** ************

****** *** **** ** ONVIF '****' ****** *** years. '****' ** *** highest-paid ***** ***** ** out ***** ********** **. ****** ** still ****** ** ** active ****** ** *****'* website *****:

****** **** ** ********* an *****, ***** *** email **** *********.

****** *** *** *************** ********** ********, **** *** **** recent **** ******** ******* in ********* ****:

Impact ** **********

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******: ***** **** **** existing ****** ******* **** are ***** ********** **** remain ** *** ******** list *** *** **** will ***, ** **** as **** *** *********.

******'* ******** ********** ******** will ****** ** *** website ** ***** ******** achieved *********** ***** ** the ** ********** ******. Under *** **********, ****** does *** **** ****** to ****** ********* **** as *** **** **** to ****** *** ***********.

*******,*****'* ********* ************** *** public*** *** ******* *** develop ***** *** ******** to ********* **** ******** supporting ***** ** ****** can ******* ***** *** not ********** ** **** the ***** *********.

********, ****** ** **** focused ** ******* ***** own ***-**-*** *********, ********* to ****** ***** **** are **** ********* ** 3rd ***** ***** ************.

Rationale *** ********** - *******

** ******* *** ********* for *** ********** *** patents ******** ** ************ ONVIF ****, ****** ***** ONVIF **** *** *******, we ****** ** *******.

***** ** * ** non-profit (*** ***** **** ********* returns) ***** ************ ******** patent ******* ** ********* and ****** ******* *** licensed ** ********** **** ONVIF ****, ** ************* **** ** ***** document*****:

** *** ****** **** US ************ *** ******** that *** ** ********** of ******** ***** *******, this ***** ****** ** the ********** / ******* of *****. ***** *** spoken **** *** ** Department ** ******** ***** this, ******* **** ****.

Dahua *** ********* ******** ****

***** ********** *** **** considering *** **** **** of **************** ***** *** *********. As ****, ** **** happened, ***** ***** **** likely ******* ***** *** Hikvision.

Outlook ************* *** ***********

*** ****** ****** ** likely *************. ***** ** so *** ** ********* their *** ********* *** conformance ****** **** ** see ****** **** *** Huawei ** ******** ******** or ***** *****.

*** ******** ****** *** be **** ***********. ** be *********** ******** **** a ***** ******** ************ because ** ** ********* is **********, **** ** us. *** ** ******* that *** ****** ** sanctions *** ** ************ severe *** *****.

Update - ********* **** ****** ************* *****

************** *** *********,****** *** **** ********* from *** ***** ** Incident ******** *** ******** Teams (*****). *************, *** ***** came *** ********* ****** calling *** ** ********* for **** **********:

*** *********** ********* **** as *** **** ** medicine, ************ ******** ****** protection, ****** *** ******, and **** ******, *** often ********** ********* ******* explicit ********* ** ********, despite ********* ** ****** regulations ***** ** *****.FIRST ********** ************ ** **** ******* ********** *** *************, to enable the truly global incident response capability, which we and other organizations represent. [emphasis added]

***** ********** ***** ********* as *** ******:

***** ********* ************ *** review ** ******* **** to *** ** ****** Administration *********** (***), ** regret ****** ** ** a ******** ***** ** had ** ******* ******'* membership ** ***** ** ensure ** **** ***** evolving ***********

****** *****,***** **** * ****** statement ** *** ******.

Comments (32)

Undisclosed #1

IPVMU Certified | 09/20/19 02:15pm

****** ** *** ******* that ***** ** ***** ultimately ********** ** *** founders (*** *** ***********), Axis, ***** *** ****?

John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Undisclosed #1 | 09/20/19 02:23pm

*** *** ******* ** but **** **** ******* has **** ** ** with ****, *****, *** Sony. ****, *** *** you ********** ********* **** when ********* ** ***** a **** ****** *** only ****** *** **** suspended.

Undisclosed #1

IPVMU Certified | In reply to John Honovich | 09/20/19 02:55pm

** ***, ******, *** Hik,***.

*** *** **** **** “clearly **** **** ** do **** ****, *****, and ****”?

*** *** ****

********* * ********** ****** the*****************, *** ***** ********** with ***** *******,*****placed until this matter is resolved -Emphasis added.

*** **** *****’* *******

***********, *** *** *** rationale ** *******

** ******* *** ********* for *** ********** *** patents ******** ** ************ ONVIF ****, ****** ***** ONVIF **** *** *******, we ****** ** *******.

********* **** ** ** with **** ** **, but ********** **** *** controlling **** *********** *** suspension *** ********* ** competitors, ***** ********** **** typical ************ *********.

John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Undisclosed #1 | 09/20/19 03:11pm

** * ********* / alluded ** ** *** post:

”** *** ****** **** US ************ *** ******** that *** ** ********** of ******** ***** *******, this ***** ****** ** the ********** / ******* of *****. ***** *** spoken **** *** ** Department ** ******** ***** this, ******* **** ****.”

***** ** ** ******** to ******* *** ***** surveillance *********** *********** ***** involved ** ****. ***** is ******** ** ******* that *** ** ********** drove **** *** ** doing **** ****** **** areas **** ****** ** involved **.

Undisclosed #1

IPVMU Certified | In reply to John Honovich | 09/20/19 05:29pm

** ******* *** ********* for *** ********** *** patents ******** ** ************ ONVIF ****, ****** ***** ONVIF **** *** *******, we ****** ** *******.

* *** * ***** of *** ** ******* listed ** *****. *** patent ***** ** * Japanese *******. *** ***** more *’* *******?

***, **** ** * relatively ****** ************* *** the ******.

***** ** ******** ** support **** *** ** government ***** **** *** is ***** **** ****** many ***** **** ****** is ******** **.

***** *** ** ******** that *** ** ***** this, *** ** *** extent ** **** ******** that ******* *** “***** has ****** **** ********** of ********”? **** **** contacted/pushed ** ********?

John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Undisclosed #1 | 09/20/19 11:04pm

***** *** ** ******** that *** ** ***** this, *** ** *** extent ** **** ********

***, **** ** **** evidence **** **** ** a ********** ** ****, Bosch, *** **** ** strong-arm ****** *** ** ONVIF? ** ** *****, that ** *** **** of * **** *********** and ************ ***** *** there's ** ******** *** even ********* ****** ****** it.

********** ** ******** *** been ******* ** *** directing ******* ** ************* about ******. ** **** good ******* **** *** Department ** ******** *** the **** **** *****.

****, **** ** **** ONVIF ** ******* *********, this ** *** ** organization **** ***** ****** stands ** ***** ***** moves ************. **** ***'* get ****** ********* ****** **** ****** ** ONVIF ********* *** *** ***** they *** ****** ** suspend ******?

********, **** ** *** Axis ********. **** **** we **** ****, **** were ****** ****** ** uninterested ** ******** *** or ******** *** *** NDAA ***, ***** *** a *** ****** ****** on ****. ***, ***, they *** ***** ** try ** ****** *** Huawei **** *****?

** **** ********** ** this: ******** **** ***** that ****** ****** ** be ***. ***** *** terrified ** ** ********, likely ****** **** **** are ****** ******* ****** potentially ***** **** ** they *** ******** ** the ** *** ** they *** ***. ** ONVIF *********** *** ******, with ***** *********, ***., before **** **** **** move **** ***** *** even **** **** ******** disclosed ******* ****'* *********. yes/no?

Undisclosed #1

IPVMU Certified | In reply to John Honovich | 09/21/19 12:30am

***, **** ** **** evidence **** **** ** a ********** ** ****, Bosch, *** **** ** strong-arm ****** *** ** ONVIF?

* ***** ******* * conspiracy.

** **** ***** *** that**should ** ***** *** ************ **** that the people who ultimately decided that Huawei should be forced out were from Axis, Sony and Bosch, who are competitors.

**** ******* ***** *** be ***** ** ****, so ****** **** **** learn ** **** **** than **** **** ****** rep.

******** ************ ****, **** if *** ** *** alleging * **********, ***/**?

John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Undisclosed #1 | 09/21/19 10:54am

******** ************ ****

*** **** *** ******* every ******* ** ** organization ***** ********. * did *** ******* **** ONVIF *** ******* ** how **** ******** **** have ** *** **** standards **** **** ******, etc. ***? ******* * did *** *** *** of **** ** ***** germane ** *** ****** was *********.

** * ******* ***** was *** ****** **** Axis, *****, ****, ***. would **** **** **** to ****** ******, * would **** *********** ****** this ***.

*** *** **** ** the ******** ** ***** it ** (*******'* ***** hidden) *** * ** happy ** ******* *** I ***** **'* *** relevant.

Undisclosed #1

IPVMU Certified | In reply to John Honovich | 09/21/19 09:49pm

*** **** *** ******* every ******* ** ** organization ***** ********.

***** ******** ********** *** Cost ******* (****, ** Works ** ****)

John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Undisclosed #1 | 09/21/19 10:15pm

Undisclosed #1

IPVMU Certified | In reply to Undisclosed #1 | 10/08/19 11:25pm

** ***, ******, *** Hik, ***.

***?

Derek Ward

IPVM | 09/20/19 03:03pm

**, *** ** ********** applied *** ********* ** May ****, *** ** took ***** ********* *** ONVIF ** ******* ******? I'm ******** ***** ****, but **** ********** ***** more ******** **** *********. I ****** **** *** tipping ***** ***, ** did ** ****** **** 4 ****** ** ***** and ******** **** ********** to **** *** ***** suspension?

Undisclosed #2

In reply to Derek Ward | 09/20/19 05:03pm

*'* **** ******* *** ONVIF ******** * ****** device ** *** *** and **** ******* **** 2 ***** *****.

Undisclosed #1

IPVMU Certified | In reply to Undisclosed #2 | 09/20/19 06:03pm

** *** ** ** automatic ******** **** **** a *** **** *** ONVIF ********** ****.

Undisclosed #3

In reply to Undisclosed #2 | 09/20/19 10:58pm

** ***** ** **** ONVIF *** ******** ****** into **** ******** ** some ***. ******** ************* (ONVIF, ***, ***.) ** not **** ** ** very ********* ** ****** caring ***** ****** **** cyber ********, ****** *********, tariff **********. * ***** that ***** **** ** this ********** ****** ** their *** *** *** of ****** ** "** the ***** *****".

Undisclosed End User #4

In reply to Derek Ward | 09/21/19 09:02pm

***** ***** ****** ** the **** ***** ** Apple, **** ***** ****.

John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Undisclosed End User #4 | 09/21/19 09:07pm

** ****? ******* ***** from *** ***** '*****'?

**** ********** ** **** seen ****** ***** ***** surveillance *************, **'* ********** by ***** ********* **** with ********* ** **** for ******* *********.

Undisclosed #1

IPVMU Certified | 09/21/19 12:41am

**** *****’* **********;)

Undisclosed #1

IPVMU Certified | 09/21/19 11:51pm

**** “*******” ******* **** use ******’* ****** ***** be ********** ***** *********?

Jacob Hengel

YourSix | In reply to Undisclosed #1 | 09/22/19 09:38pm

* ***** *** *** confused...those *** **** ** the ***** ***** ********* only **** **** *** companion ******** *** *** not ****** ** ***** compliant *******. **** *** not **** ** ** cross ******** ********* ** anything ****.

Undisclosed #1

IPVMU Certified | In reply to Jacob Hengel | 09/22/19 10:15pm

**** ***** ***** **** camera *********, ** **********. my *** ** ***** that *****.

*******, *** ******** ***** the ******* *** * general ***, ***** *** are ********** ** *******.

*******:****** ********* ******* ******** Tens ** ******** ** Western *** *******

Jacob Hengel

YourSix | In reply to Undisclosed #1 | 09/22/19 10:45pm

*** **. **** ******** in ****** ** ***** manufacturers **** ** *** Hauwei ** ***** **** day ** *** ***** platform ******* (*********, ***).

*** ***** **** ***** all ** **** ********** is **** *** **** are *** ******** **** new ****** *** ***** lines **** *** *** been *****.

** ***** **** ****** have ***** ***** ********** tags ****** ** ***** across *** ***** *** time **** ****.

John Honovich

IPVM | 09/22/19 02:39pm

****** *** *** *** to ******* *** ******* this:****** *** **** ********* from *** ***** ** Incident ******** *** ******** Teams (*****). ** ***** * section ** *** ****** addressing ****.

Undisclosed #1

IPVMU Certified | In reply to John Honovich | 09/23/19 11:52pm

** *** ***** **** ONVIF **** **** *** action ******* ***** ******* using ****** ****, **** as ************?

*** *** ** ******* with ******* ** ***** who ***** ******* ** this *********** ********* ***********?

John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Undisclosed #1 | 09/23/19 11:54pm

***** **** **** *** action ******* ***** ******* using ****** ****

****? **** *** ***** do ***** ********* ****? ONVIF ****** ****** ***** own *********, **** *** they ** ***** ****** SoCs?

Undisclosed #1

IPVMU Certified | In reply to John Honovich | 09/24/19 03:59am

**** ***** ****** **** from ***** ********** ****** list, **** ** *** Huawei ******* **** **.

**** * ******** ******** standpoint, * ****** ****** and * ***-****** ****** with * ****** *** present * ******* ******.

*** ***** **** ***** have * ****** ****** than ******* ****** *******.

*******, ****** ******, *** doesn’t **** * *********** us ********, ***** ********* with ******* ******* ** Huawei, **** ********* *** instance, **. *** **** might **** ** ********* huawei ******* ******* ****** than ***** ***** **********.

*** ****** ****** ***, who *** ***** ***** ONVIF ********** **** ****** fear ** ************, ***** us ************ *** **** likely ** ************ ***** compliance, *** ******* ** enforcement, *** ******* ** the ******** ******** ***** that ***** ******.

** ************* **** *****, ** this ******** ********.

*** ** **** * few ** *** ****** companies ******* ** ****** were ** ********** ** a ********* *** ********, this ***** ** *** more ** ****** *** NS ******, **** ********* a ******* **** **** little ******** ** *** US. *** **** **** Huawei *** **** ******* than *** **** ** their ** *******.

******’* **** ** ** outcome **** *** ***** welcome?

********, * ** ******** surprised ** **** ******** to **** **********, *** think **’* ********* ****** of ********** *** * request *** ******* **** ONVIF.

Undisclosed Integrator #5

09/23/19 10:31pm

**** ** *********** ** this ******* ****. ****** ******** ** "*********** DDoS *******" **************** ** ********** ** Sept. ** ** ** indicates *** *********** **** the **** *** ********** and ********** ** *** Chinese ** **** **** contributed ** *****?

** ****** **** **** never **** ** ***** if ****.

John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #5 | 09/23/19 10:59pm

***** *** ****** *** definitely *********. ***** ****** specification, *** ****. **'* up ** ********** ********* to *******, *****, ***** code, ***.

Mike Young

09/24/19 11:08pm

*** ** **** ******** organization ** *********** ** follow **, ***** ***** a **** ** ***

John Honovich

IPVM | 09/26/19 12:12am

******: ***** **** **** existing ****** ******* **** are ***** ********** **** remain ** *** ******** list *** *** **** will ***, ** **** as **** *** *********:

******'* ******** ********** ******** will ****** ** *** website ** ***** ******** achieved *********** ***** ** the ** ********** ******. Under *** **********, ****** does *** **** ****** to ****** ********* **** as *** **** **** to ****** *** ***********.

Undisclosed #1

IPVMU Certified | In reply to John Honovich | 09/26/19 02:48am

***** *** **********, ****** does *** **** ****** to ****** ********* **** as *** **** **** to ****** *** ***********.

***** * ****** *** (if *** ****** ** were ** *****) ****** a ****** *** *******?

Undisclosed #1

IPVMU Certified | 10/15/19 07:50pm

**** ******* *** ** government *********** ****** ** May ****, ******* **** on *** ****** ****.

********** **** *** **** precipitated *** ******** *** the ****** ** ******** to *** ********* ******* License (***). *** ******** version ** *** *** had ******** **** ****** to ******** ******* ** relevant *********:

Continued ********* ** ******** ******** *** *********: Engagement in transactions necessary to maintain and support existing and currently fully operational networks and equipment, including software updates and patches, subject to legally binding contracts/agreements executed between third parties and Huawei and/or the 68 affiliates and third parties on or before May 16, 2019.

*** **** ************** *** ****** *** guidance, ** **********:

*** *** **** **** several ********** ** ******* that “***-*********** ** *******- ******* computing ******* ... ********** ********** ** ** part ** ** ******** and ‘***** *********** *******’” and **** ***** *** be ******* ** ********* under **** *************.*************

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