ONVIF Suspends Huawei

By John Honovich, Published Sep 20, 2019, 08:14am EDT

Huawei has been 'suspended', and effectively expelled, from ONVIF so long as US sanctions remain on the mega Chinese manufacturer.

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Inside this note, we examine what happened and what this means for the unprecedented step of being removed from the video surveillance industry's global interoperability standard.

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**** ******* *** ** government*********** ****** ** *** 2019, ******* **** ** the ****** ****.

***** ******** ** ******* any ******* ************* ** what **** ***** ** why ** *** ****.

Huawei ***** ************

****** *** **** ** ONVIF '****' ****** *** years. '****' ** *** highest-paid ***** ***** ** out ***** ********** **. ****** ** still ****** ** ** active ****** ** *****'* website *****:

****** **** ** ********* an *****, ***** *** email **** *********.

****** *** *** *************** ********** ********, **** *** **** recent **** ******** ******* in ********* ****:

Impact ** **********

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********, ****** **** **** input *** ****** **** the *********** ** ***** standards, ********* ***** **** had ************ ****.

******: ***** **** **** existing ****** ******* **** are ***** ********** **** remain ** *** ******** list *** *** **** will ***, ** **** as **** *** *********.

******'* ******** ********** ******** will ****** ** *** website ** ***** ******** achieved *********** ***** ** the ** ********** ******. Under *** **********, ****** does *** **** ****** to ****** ********* **** as *** **** **** to ****** *** ***********.

*******,*****'* ********* ************** *** public*** *** ******* *** develop ***** *** ******** to ********* **** ******** supporting ***** ** ****** can ******* ***** *** not ********** ** **** the ***** *********.

********, ****** ** **** focused ** ******* ***** own ***-**-*** *********, ********* to ****** ***** **** are **** ********* ** 3rd ***** ***** ************.

Rationale *** ********** - *******

** ******* *** ********* for *** ********** *** patents ******** ** ************ ONVIF ****, ****** ***** ONVIF **** *** *******, we ****** ** *******.

***** ** * ** non-profit (*** ***** **** ********* returns) ***** ************ ******** patent ******* ** ********* and ****** ******* *** licensed ** ********** **** ONVIF ****, ** ************* **** ** ***** document*****:

** *** ****** **** US ************ *** ******** that *** ** ********** of ******** ***** *******, this ***** ****** ** the ********** / ******* of *****. ***** *** spoken **** *** ** Department ** ******** ***** this, ******* **** ****.

Dahua *** ********* ******** ****

***** ********** *** **** considering *** **** **** of **************** ***** *** *********. As ****, ** **** happened, ***** ***** **** likely ******* ***** *** Hikvision.

Outlook ************* *** ***********

*** ****** ****** ** likely *************. ***** ** so *** ** ********* their *** ********* *** conformance ****** **** ** see ****** **** *** Huawei ** ******** ******** or ***** *****.

*** ******** ****** *** be **** ***********. ** be *********** ******** **** a ***** ******** ************ because ** ** ********* is **********, **** ** us. *** ** ******* that *** ****** ** sanctions *** ** ************ severe *** *****.

Update - ********* **** ****** ************* *****

************** *** *********,****** *** **** ********* from *** ***** ** Incident ******** *** ******** Teams (*****). *************, *** ***** came *** ********* ****** calling *** ** ********* for **** **********:

*** *********** ********* **** as *** **** ** medicine, ************ ******** ****** protection, ****** *** ******, and **** ******, *** often ********** ********* ******* explicit ********* ** ********, despite ********* ** ****** regulations ***** ** *****.FIRST ********** ************ ** **** ******* ********** *** *************, to enable the truly global incident response capability, which we and other organizations represent. [emphasis added]

***** ********** ***** ********* as *** ******:

***** ********* ************ *** review ** ******* **** to *** ** ****** Administration *********** (***), ** regret ****** ** ** a ******** ***** ** had ** ******* ******'* membership ** ***** ** ensure ** **** ***** evolving ***********

****** *****,***** **** * ****** statement ** *** ******.

Comments (32)

Undisclosed #1

IPVMU Certified | 09/20/19 02:15pm

****** ** *** ******* that ***** ** ***** ultimately ********** ** *** founders (*** *** ***********), Axis, ***** *** ****?

John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Undisclosed #1 | 09/20/19 02:23pm

*** *** ******* ** but **** **** ******* has **** ** ** with ****, *****, *** Sony. ****, *** *** you ********** ********* **** when ********* ** ***** a **** ****** *** only ****** *** **** suspended.

Undisclosed #1

IPVMU Certified | In reply to John Honovich | 09/20/19 02:55pm

** ***, ******, *** Hik,***.

*** *** **** **** “clearly **** **** ** do **** ****, *****, and ****”?

*** *** ****

********* * ********** ****** the*****************, *** ***** ********** with ***** *******,*****placed until this matter is resolved -Emphasis added.

*** **** *****’* *******

***********, *** *** *** rationale ** *******

** ******* *** ********* for *** ********** *** patents ******** ** ************ ONVIF ****, ****** ***** ONVIF **** *** *******, we ****** ** *******.

********* **** ** ** with **** ** **, but ********** **** *** controlling **** *********** *** suspension *** ********* ** competitors, ***** ********** **** typical ************ *********.

John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Undisclosed #1 | 09/20/19 03:11pm

** * ********* / alluded ** ** *** post:

”** *** ****** **** US ************ *** ******** that *** ** ********** of ******** ***** *******, this ***** ****** ** the ********** / ******* of *****. ***** *** spoken **** *** ** Department ** ******** ***** this, ******* **** ****.”

***** ** ** ******** to ******* *** ***** surveillance *********** *********** ***** involved ** ****. ***** is ******** ** ******* that *** ** ********** drove **** *** ** doing **** ****** **** areas **** ****** ** involved **.

Undisclosed #1

IPVMU Certified | In reply to John Honovich | 09/20/19 05:29pm

** ******* *** ********* for *** ********** *** patents ******** ** ************ ONVIF ****, ****** ***** ONVIF **** *** *******, we ****** ** *******.

* *** * ***** of *** ** ******* listed ** *****. *** patent ***** ** * Japanese *******. *** ***** more *’* *******?

***, **** ** * relatively ****** ************* *** the ******.

***** ** ******** ** support **** *** ** government ***** **** *** is ***** **** ****** many ***** **** ****** is ******** **.

***** *** ** ******** that *** ** ***** this, *** ** *** extent ** **** ******** that ******* *** “***** has ****** **** ********** of ********”? **** **** contacted/pushed ** ********?

John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Undisclosed #1 | 09/20/19 11:04pm

***** *** ** ******** that *** ** ***** this, *** ** *** extent ** **** ********

***, **** ** **** evidence **** **** ** a ********** ** ****, Bosch, *** **** ** strong-arm ****** *** ** ONVIF? ** ** *****, that ** *** **** of * **** *********** and ************ ***** *** there's ** ******** *** even ********* ****** ****** it.

********** ** ******** *** been ******* ** *** directing ******* ** ************* about ******. ** **** good ******* **** *** Department ** ******** *** the **** **** *****.

****, **** ** **** ONVIF ** ******* *********, this ** *** ** organization **** ***** ****** stands ** ***** ***** moves ************. **** ***'* get ****** ********* ****** **** ****** ** ONVIF ********* *** *** ***** they *** ****** ** suspend ******?

********, **** ** *** Axis ********. **** **** we **** ****, **** were ****** ****** ** uninterested ** ******** *** or ******** *** *** NDAA ***, ***** *** a *** ****** ****** on ****. ***, ***, they *** ***** ** try ** ****** *** Huawei **** *****?

** **** ********** ** this: ******** **** ***** that ****** ****** ** be ***. ***** *** terrified ** ** ********, likely ****** **** **** are ****** ******* ****** potentially ***** **** ** they *** ******** ** the ** *** ** they *** ***. ** ONVIF *********** *** ******, with ***** *********, ***., before **** **** **** move **** ***** *** even **** **** ******** disclosed ******* ****'* *********. yes/no?

Undisclosed #1

IPVMU Certified | In reply to John Honovich | 09/21/19 12:30am

***, **** ** **** evidence **** **** ** a ********** ** ****, Bosch, *** **** ** strong-arm ****** *** ** ONVIF?

* ***** ******* * conspiracy.

** **** ***** *** that**should ** ***** *** ************ **** that the people who ultimately decided that Huawei should be forced out were from Axis, Sony and Bosch, who are competitors.

**** ******* ***** *** be ***** ** ****, so ****** **** **** learn ** **** **** than **** **** ****** rep.

******** ************ ****, **** if *** ** *** alleging * **********, ***/**?

John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Undisclosed #1 | 09/21/19 10:54am

******** ************ ****

*** **** *** ******* every ******* ** ** organization ***** ********. * did *** ******* **** ONVIF *** ******* ** how **** ******** **** have ** *** **** standards **** **** ******, etc. ***? ******* * did *** *** *** of **** ** ***** germane ** *** ****** was *********.

** * ******* ***** was *** ****** **** Axis, *****, ****, ***. would **** **** **** to ****** ******, * would **** *********** ****** this ***.

*** *** **** ** the ******** ** ***** it ** (*******'* ***** hidden) *** * ** happy ** ******* *** I ***** **'* *** relevant.

Undisclosed #1

IPVMU Certified | In reply to John Honovich | 09/21/19 09:49pm

*** **** *** ******* every ******* ** ** organization ***** ********.

***** ******** ********** *** Cost ******* (****, ** Works ** ****)

:)

John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Undisclosed #1 | 09/21/19 10:15pm

Undisclosed #1

IPVMU Certified | In reply to Undisclosed #1 | 10/08/19 11:25pm

** ***, ******, *** Hik, ***.

***?

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Derek Ward

IPVM | 09/20/19 03:03pm

**, *** ** ********** applied *** ********* ** May ****, *** ** took ***** ********* *** ONVIF ** ******* ******? I'm ******** ***** ****, but **** ********** ***** more ******** **** *********. I ****** **** *** tipping ***** ***, ** did ** ****** **** 4 ****** ** ***** and ******** **** ********** to **** *** ***** suspension?

Undisclosed #2

In reply to Derek Ward | 09/20/19 05:03pm

*'* **** ******* *** ONVIF ******** * ****** device ** *** *** and **** ******* **** 2 ***** *****.

Undisclosed #1

IPVMU Certified | In reply to Undisclosed #2 | 09/20/19 06:03pm

** *** ** ** automatic ******** **** **** a *** **** *** ONVIF ********** ****.

Undisclosed #3

In reply to Undisclosed #2 | 09/20/19 10:58pm

** ***** ** **** ONVIF *** ******** ****** into **** ******** ** some ***. ******** ************* (ONVIF, ***, ***.) ** not **** ** ** very ********* ** ****** caring ***** ****** **** cyber ********, ****** *********, tariff **********. * ***** that ***** **** ** this ********** ****** ** their *** *** *** of ****** ** "** the ***** *****".

Undisclosed End User #4

In reply to Derek Ward | 09/21/19 09:02pm

***** ***** ****** ** the **** ***** ** Apple, **** ***** ****.

John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Undisclosed End User #4 | 09/21/19 09:07pm

** ****? ******* ***** from *** ***** '*****'?

**** ********** ** **** seen ****** ***** ***** surveillance *************, **'* ********** by ***** ********* **** with ********* ** **** for ******* *********.

Undisclosed #1

IPVMU Certified | 09/21/19 12:41am

**** *****’* **********;)

Undisclosed #1

IPVMU Certified | 09/21/19 11:51pm

**** “*******” ******* **** use ******’* ****** ***** be ********** ***** *********?

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Jacob Hengel

YourSix | In reply to Undisclosed #1 | 09/22/19 09:38pm

* ***** *** *** confused...those *** **** ** the ***** ***** ********* only **** **** *** companion ******** *** *** not ****** ** ***** compliant *******. **** *** not **** ** ** cross ******** ********* ** anything ****.

Undisclosed #1

IPVMU Certified | In reply to Jacob Hengel | 09/22/19 10:15pm

**** ***** ***** **** camera *********, ** **********. my *** ** ***** that *****.

*******, *** ******** ***** the ******* *** * general ***, ***** *** are ********** ** *******.

*******:****** ********* ******* ******** Tens ** ******** ** Western *** *******

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Jacob Hengel

YourSix | In reply to Undisclosed #1 | 09/22/19 10:45pm

*** **. **** ******** in ****** ** ***** manufacturers **** ** *** Hauwei ** ***** **** day ** *** ***** platform ******* (*********, ***).

*** ***** **** ***** all ** **** ********** is **** *** **** are *** ******** **** new ****** *** ***** lines **** *** *** been *****.

** ***** **** ****** have ***** ***** ********** tags ****** ** ***** across *** ***** *** time **** ****.

John Honovich

IPVM | 09/22/19 02:39pm

****** *** *** *** to ******* *** ******* this:****** *** **** ********* from *** ***** ** Incident ******** *** ******** Teams (*****). ** ***** * section ** *** ****** addressing ****.

Undisclosed #1

IPVMU Certified | In reply to John Honovich | 09/23/19 11:52pm

** *** ***** **** ONVIF **** **** *** action ******* ***** ******* using ****** ****, **** as ************?

*** *** ** ******* with ******* ** ***** who ***** ******* ** this *********** ********* ***********?

John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Undisclosed #1 | 09/23/19 11:54pm

***** **** **** *** action ******* ***** ******* using ****** ****

****? **** *** ***** do ***** ********* ****? ONVIF ****** ****** ***** own *********, **** *** they ** ***** ****** SoCs?

Undisclosed #1

IPVMU Certified | In reply to John Honovich | 09/24/19 03:59am

**** ***** ****** **** from ***** ********** ****** list, **** ** *** Huawei ******* **** **.

**** * ******** ******** standpoint, * ****** ****** and * ***-****** ****** with * ****** *** present * ******* ******.

*** ***** **** ***** have * ****** ****** than ******* ****** *******.

*******, ****** ******, *** doesn’t **** * *********** us ********, ***** ********* with ******* ******* ** Huawei, **** ********* *** instance, **. *** **** might **** ** ********* huawei ******* ******* ****** than ***** ***** **********.

*** ****** ****** ***, who *** ***** ***** ONVIF ********** **** ****** fear ** ************, ***** us ************ *** **** likely ** ************ ***** compliance, *** ******* ** enforcement, *** ******* ** the ******** ******** ***** that ***** ******.

** ************* **** *****, ** this ******** ********.

*** ** **** * few ** *** ****** companies ******* ** ****** were ** ********** ** a ********* *** ********, this ***** ** *** more ** ****** *** NS ******, **** ********* a ******* **** **** little ******** ** *** US. *** **** **** Huawei *** **** ******* than *** **** ** their ** *******.

******’* **** ** ** outcome **** *** ***** welcome?

********, * ** ******** surprised ** **** ******** to **** **********, *** think **’* ********* ****** of ********** *** * request *** ******* **** ONVIF.

Undisclosed Integrator #5

09/23/19 10:31pm

**** ** *********** ** this ******* ****. ****** ******** ** "*********** DDoS *******" **************** ** ********** ** Sept. ** ** ** indicates *** *********** **** the **** *** ********** and ********** ** *** Chinese ** **** **** contributed ** *****?

** ****** **** **** never **** ** ***** if ****.

John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #5 | 09/23/19 10:59pm

***** *** ****** *** definitely *********. ***** ****** specification, *** ****. **'* up ** ********** ********* to *******, *****, ***** code, ***.

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Mike Young

09/24/19 11:08pm

*** ** **** ******** organization ** *********** ** follow **, ***** ***** a **** ** ***

John Honovich

IPVM | 09/26/19 12:12am

******: ***** **** **** existing ****** ******* **** are ***** ********** **** remain ** *** ******** list *** *** **** will ***, ** **** as **** *** *********:

******'* ******** ********** ******** will ****** ** *** website ** ***** ******** achieved *********** ***** ** the ** ********** ******. Under *** **********, ****** does *** **** ****** to ****** ********* **** as *** **** **** to ****** *** ***********.

Undisclosed #1

IPVMU Certified | In reply to John Honovich | 09/26/19 02:48am

***** *** **********, ****** does *** **** ****** to ****** ********* **** as *** **** **** to ****** *** ***********.

***** * ****** *** (if *** ****** ** were ** *****) ****** a ****** *** *******?

Undisclosed #1

IPVMU Certified | 10/15/19 07:50pm

**** ******* *** ** government *********** ****** ** May ****, ******* **** on *** ****** ****.

********** **** *** **** precipitated *** ******** *** the ****** ** ******** to *** ********* ******* License (***). *** ******** version ** *** *** had ******** **** ****** to ******** ******* ** relevant *********:

  1. Continued ********* ** ******** ******** *** *********: Engagement in transactions necessary to maintain and support existing and currently fully operational networks and equipment, including software updates and patches, subject to legally binding contracts/agreements executed between third parties and Huawei and/or the 68 affiliates and third parties on or before May 16, 2019.

*** **** ************** *** ****** *** guidance, ** **********:

*** *** **** **** several ********** ** ******* that “***-*********** ** *******- ******* computing ******* ... ********** ********** ** ** part ** ** ******** and ‘***** *********** *******’” and **** ***** *** be ******* ** ********* under **** *************.*************

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