Uniview Falsely Banned In Kirschenbaum Newsletter

Published Nov 30, 2021 16:35 PM

Uniview / UNV was falsely blacklisted in industry attorney Ken Kirschenbaum's newsletter titled "Comprehensive list of banned equipment". Kirschenbaum defended the newsletter, saying "I posted comment by someone else; no verification. Don't shoot the messenger"

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In this note, we examine the responsibilities, or lack thereof, that publishers have in releasing false information and the risks in falsely blacklisting PRC companies.

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*************** ********** ****** * "************* **** of ****** *********"******** ** * **** ***** ******* owner **** *** *** / ******* first ** *** ****, ** *** excerpt ***** *****:

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***** *** / ******* ** *** banned, ** ** *****, *********, ******, etc., ** ***** ************ ***** **** and ** ********* * ******** ** today's **********, ******:

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** ********* *** ******** **** ************ who ******* ** ****:

**** * ***** *** ****** ***** criticism. *** ********** ** ******* * forum ** ******** ***** *** **-********* comments *** ********* **** ******** ******** that * *****

*** ******* ** **** ***** *** not ****** ******** ** **** *****, the ************ ********** ******** **** ** be * "************* **** ** ****** equipment".

"No ************. ***'* ***** *** *********"

************'* ******** **** ** *** *** verify *** "************* **** ** ****** equipment" *** **** ** *** *********** just *** ********* ****** ********* ** what **************** ********** *** ********* (*** in **** ****, ****) **** ** verify **** **** *******.

***********, *** ***** ********* ******* ************ uses "***********" ** **** *** *********. But ** ************ **** *** ********* when ** ******* **** **** **** his **********? *** **** **** **** signal ***** *** ******* ** ************'* expertise ** ** ** ****** *** messenger *** * **** ** ******* products **** **** "************* **** ** banned *********."

**** ******** ****** ***** ** ********** generally ********* ****. *** **, ** are **** ********* ***** ******** ******* claims, **** ********* ****, *** ******* and ******** **** ********* ** ******* sources, *.*., ********** *********, *** *** what ****** ***** ***** ** **.

********, ** ******, *** *********, ******* UNV ****** ** ****** *** ** banned ** * ******** **** ************ or ****** *** **** *** **** readers *** ****** **********. *** ******* it ** * "************* **** ** banned *********" ** *** **** *******.

*** **** "**** ****" **** *** supporters *** ***** ***, *** **** it ********** *** ****** *** ******* concerns **** *** ** ********** *** many ******** ** ****** ** *** PRC.

Comments (18)
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Steve Stowe
Nov 30, 2021

***** **** ** *** ********* **** about **** ******* ***** ****** ******** using ****** *** **** ** **** those ********** ******** ******?

(2)
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Sal Visone
Dec 01, 2021
DWG • IPVMU Certified

***. *****. *** ******* ***** ** not ******, ** **** ***** ** a **** ***** *** ******* ** have ******** *** *****. ***** ****** line ** **** ** **** ********* as **** ***** ******* ****** ** the ** ******.

(1)
UI
Undisclosed Integrator #1
Nov 30, 2021

***** *******’* ******* *** *** **** specifically ******, ***** ** ** ********** that **** **** **** ****** ** the ****** **** *** ****** ********* on *** **** **** ****.

***** **** ********* ****** ***** *** being ** *** ****. ** ** important ** ****, **** ******* *** NDAA *** *** *** **** **** statements **** **** ****** *** *** products, ** **** ***** ***** *** complete. ******* **** **** **** *** statement **** * ************ *** ***** included ** *** **** ******* ***** network ******** ************ ** ***** ** by *** ******** ** ********** ********* may *** ******* ******** ** ******* security ******. ** ****** **** ***** be *****.

******* ** *** ***** *************’ ********* from *** **** **** *** ****** their ******** *** **** ** ******, only **** **** *** *** **** under *** ******** ** *** **** or *** ****** *** ************** ***** resulted ** *** ****. ** ****, since ******* ******** ***** ******** *** chipsets **** ** ***** ** *** list, ********* ****** *********, ***** ******* and ************* ******** *** **** **** similar ********/********* ** ***** ** ******** already ******, ** ** **** ** at ***** ********** **** **** ***** have *** **** **** ****** ** the ******.

** *** ******** ** ******** *** to ******** ********* *********, ** ** safest ** ****** **** ** ***** tested ** ***** **** ***’*.

(3)
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Scott Smith
Dec 01, 2021
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* **** *** ****** *.****** ******* to ******** ******* ************* *** (****) Guidelines

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Shannon Davis
Nov 30, 2021
IPVMU Certified

** ** ******** ****'* *** ******** to ***** *** *****?

(4)
UI
Undisclosed Integrator #1
Nov 30, 2021

** ******** ****** ** *********** **** their *******, *** ***, *** ****** have ******** **** **** ** *** list, *** ** ** *** *** field ** *********. ** *** *** saying **** ***** ***** ***** ** publication ****** ** ******** ****** ***** printed, *** *** ***** ** ******. It **** ** **, *** **** seems ** *** ** *** **** any ****.

*** ***** ** **** ******** *********** to ***** ********* ***** **** *** be *****. ** **** ***** ***** case *** ***********. *** ********** ** that *** *** *** **** **** why **** ****** ***** ********, *** have * ****** ************* **** *** attorneys ** ***** *******. ******** ******** has ** ** *** **** *****. The *** ********** **** ***** ****.

(1)
U
Undisclosed #2
Nov 30, 2021

****'* ****** *************...

(3)
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Richard Galatas
Dec 02, 2021

* ***'* **** **** ******. **'* like *** *** *** ******** **** you're * ***. ***** *** *** of ** **** ******* *******, **** for ******* *** ********* *********** *** Ken *** ********* *** ***** ****. Can't ** *** **** *** *****? ;-)

** ******** ** *** ** **** a **** *********** ***** ********** ****'* a *********** ** *** ****** *** a ***** *** ****** ** *** industry ** *** ***** *****. ** this **** * *********** **** ** something **** **** ******* ******. * agree **** **** **** *** ***** should ** ********* *** **** ***'* think *** *** * **** ** produce ********. * ****** ******** ***** have **** ** ***** *** ******* is *** ** *** ****** **** and ******* ******** ** *** ******** from *****. * ****** *** **** down ** *** ***** * **** busy *** *** **** ***** *** being ** *** **** ** ********* or **** ********.

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JH
John Honovich
Dec 02, 2021
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*******, ***, ******!

* ****** *** **** **** ** Ken ***** * **** **** *** and **** ***** *** ***** ** his **** ** ********* ** **** interest.

** **** ** *** ****, *** I ***'* ****, * ***** ***** the ****** ******** ** ** *** publish * ********** ** **** ***** at ***. ********?

* ****** ******** ***** **** **** to ***** *** ******* ** *** on *** ****** **** *** ******* evidence ** *** ******** **** *****.

** ***** ****** **** ** **, .e.g., * ***** *** ***** **. Kirschenbaum, ** *** ****** **, ** well ***** ** *** ******** *** his ********** ** ** *** ****** read ********** **** ** *** **** broadly **** *** ***** **** *********.

*******, ************'* ******** ("* ****** ******* by ******* ****; ** ************. ***'* shoot *** *********") **** **** **** newsworthy, ** ** ****, ***** ** shed ***** ** **** *** ********* standards *** (** *** ***).

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Clint Hays
Dec 02, 2021

** *** *** ****** *** **** we **** ********, ****** *** **** here ** ***********. ** *** *** sending *** "****" ** ***** **** you ****** **** **** ***** ** due ********* ** ***** **** ***'** saying. **** **** ** ** ********** professional.

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Sal Visone
Dec 02, 2021
DWG • IPVMU Certified

"***'* ***** *** *********" ********

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Richard Galatas
Dec 02, 2021

* ********** ********** ***** *** *** coming **** ** ****. *** *** right, *** ********* *********** ****** ** corrected. ** ** ****** **** *** been **** ** ********** **** ******** in *** **********. ******* *** **** to ****** ***'* ******* *** * think *** ******* **** *** ********* there. ** **** *** ***** ** be * ***** ******* **** ** this. * ****** ***'* **** ** see **** ****** * **** ******* the *** ** ***. * **** Ken's ***** ********** ******** *** ** addition ** ********* ********* *** ****** legal ******** ** ***** ******** ****** letters. ****** *** ****** ********, *'** never **** ***** *** **** *** expectation **** ** *** ********** *** verified ***** ******* ******. * ***** certainly **** ** ***'* ******* ** liability ******* ** ***** **** ********* but *** *** ********* ******* ** the ***. * ******* **** * good ****** *** ****. *** **** side ** * ***'* ** ******* to **** *** ***** ****** ******* than *** *** *********.

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John Honovich
Dec 02, 2021
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* ***** ********* **** ** ***'* opinion ** ********* ******* ** ***** NDAA ********* *** *** *** ********* aspects ** *** ***. * ******* have * **** ****** *** ****. The **** **** ** * ***'* be ******* ** **** *** ***** advice ******* **** *** *** *********.

** *** ***, *** ***** **** falsely ****** *******. ** ***** ** Ken *** ***** * **** ************* of *** ****. *** *** ******* ** ***************** ** ****.

***** ** ** ***** ** ***** contracts. ** ** *** ***** ** analyze ***** *********. *** ** **** a **** ** ****** **** **** been *********** *** ********* *** **** ban *** ***** *** ***, *************** alarmed, ** *** **** ** ************* that ************ ***** ** *** *********** and *** ******** ** "** ************".

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Corbin Hambrick
Dec 02, 2021

***. *** * ******--***** ****** * stereotypically ***** ** ** ** ***** words *** ******* ** ***** ** their ******--** ******* **** "***'* **** at **" ** ***...******** ***** *'* thinking ** ** *********...***** * ****** have ******** **** ********. (*'* *** familiar **** *** ** *** **********).

**** ** ********** ** ******** **** centralized **** (***** **) **** ******* decentralized ****...****** *** ********** ***.

...**** *** *** ** **** ** really. ****** ****** ******* ** ** helpful *** ****** **** ** *** don't **** *** **** ** ** precise *** **** ***'* ***** *********** when *********** ********* ***********. * ***** rather ** **** **** "***'** *****. I'm ***** * ****'* *** *** information ****** *******.".

(1)
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Undisclosed #3
Dec 02, 2021

* ***** ****** ** **** **** "You're *****. *'* ***** * ****'* vet *** *********** ****** *******.

******.

******** ********* ** ****** ******** *** your ************ ** ***** * **** look, ***.

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John Honovich
Jan 03, 2022
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******* ******* ** ************'* *********** ******** to * *** **** ***** *****. In*** ******** **, **** ************ ********** **** ***** ******* ********* cameras ** * **** **** *** using ******* *****.

************ ****** ** *** *** ******* the ****** *** *** ***** * sales ***** *** ***** *** ********:

******* ******** *** ******* ***, ***** I ***** **** ** ******* ** legislation *** ***********, *** ****** ***** for *** ** ** *** *** Disclaimer ****** **** *** ********** *** in *** *** **** *******.

*** *** **********'* *********** ****** * clear ******** ********. **** ** **** the ********** *********:

** **** ******** ***** ** ******* a ****** ****** ** * ****. The ******* *** ******** ** **** supplied ****** ***Hikvision ******* *** ****. The question i have is, if we proceed with this project knowing full well that it was was federal ***** behind this project, who would incur the liability of violating the proposed *** *********** on using such equipment in that setting? [emphasis added]

*** ****** **** ** ***** ** Kirschenbaum ****** *** * ****** '********'. As * ********* ** ************ ** email:

(*) ** ******* ***** *** ***** used **** ** * ********* ** NDAA ***, ** ******* ***, *** a ******** ******.

(*) ***** **** ***** ** * violation ** *** ***, *** ********** can ****** *** ********** ****** ** this *** *** ****** ***** ****** certainly ****** ***** *** ** **** could ******* ** ** **** *** we ***** **** ********** ********* ** ensure *** *** ******* ** ** law.

**'* *** ***** *** * *** on *** ******** ** *** "* didn't ***** ****, *** *** ** tell *** ** *******", **'* ******* thing *** * ********* / ******** to ** **** *** * ********** to *** ******.

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JH
John Honovich
Jan 16, 2022
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************ ****** ** ********, ** ***** ** *********:

*** **** *** ** ***** ******* would **** ** ****** * ******** for ********** *********.

** ******** ** "*** ****" *** we ********* **** ******* ********** ****** be ********. ** *** **** **** Kirschenbaum *********, *** ********** *** ******* (using ******* ***** *** ********** ********** covered *********).

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JH
John Honovich
Feb 24, 2022
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*******, ************ **** * "*************:**&******** ****** ******** ******* **** ****" at *:** ** **. ************ ***** this ** **** ****** ******** ***:

* *** ** *** **** ********* where *** ********** ****&*** ****** *** ******. **** ** the ******. ******* ******&******* ***** *** **** ****** ** inform ****** ** ***** ******** ** extend ***** ****. ***** **** *** the ********, ****** **** ** ** have **** ******** *** *** ********.

****, **** **** * ***** *****, Kirschenbaum ***** * *** ***** ********* he *** *****:

***** **** * ************** *******-*************. **** *** **** ******** ********** the *********. ****** **** ******* *** same, ******* *** ** ****** ** soon ** ********. *** ****** ** those *** ********* ** ******* ** correct *** ***********.

*** ***** **** ** ******** *** operates **** ****? ****, **** *** Uniview *** *********, ***** ** ** careless ** ********* ******* ******.